Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster-O-200
Chris, Just to give you some of my experience so far with my Revmaster VW; I was able to successfully pick up a used Revmaster for my airplane for about $2000. Per Revmaster it was on a Quickie in the 1980s but they could not tell me how many hours it had on it. I spent about $1000 getting it ready to fly. The main cost was getting the Bendix Dual Magneto overhauled for $1000. I'm sure that is why I got the engine for only $2000. I have 800 hours on it now and have probably spent another $2,500 on it during those 800 hours. I replaced the Cylinder heads (replaced with Great Plains heads) at 400 hours for about $1000, had to replace the case due to a crack for $1000 (Revmaster case), and had the Magneto serviced and installed a new wiring harness (500 hour IRAN) for $500. Reliability has been good. None of the repairs I've done were because the engine failed. Thanks, Rob Schmitt N1852Z -Original Message- From: KRnet On Behalf Of Chris Kinnaman via KRnet Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:28 PM To: Larry via KRnet Cc: Chris Kinnaman Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster-O-200 I'm not planning to spend $8k - $9k, I'm looking into it to determine what it will cost me. I suspect an O-200 might be too heavy for my V-Witt. On 9/6/2018 5:48 PM, Larry via KRnet wrote: > > > On 9/6/2018 6:14 PM, Chris Kinnaman via KRnet wrote: >> Just the other night I was doing some catalog engineering along these >> lines for the same reasons. I like the Revmaster R2300 case and crank >> and the ability to use a 4" prop extension with them. >> > + > > > If I were building a 2s and planned to spend $8K to 9K on a VW I think > I'd be looking at an 0-200. > > Larry Flesner > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains
What I bought is a stock engine with, I believe, everything stock inside and what the seller called a "German .010 .010 crank I was going to use to rebuild the engine" along with it. (Plus other new parts, some from GPASC). The new crank came in a heavy plastic bag with no evidence of its origin, so I can't confirm what the seller said about it, but the things he said about the other stuff in the package turned out to be true, so this may be also (and there may be clues to determine what crank it is, for all I know). Concerning the 1835 size, I've never wanted anything bigger than that, and it will be fast enough for me. The air-cooled VW is an engine designed in the '30s to have maybe 30 hp, and the more powerful you make it the more things start to break. That's partly the reason the Force One hub came into being, because the larger engines were breaking crankshafts. So I figured by NOT building a large engine and still using a Force One, I'd have reliability to spare in the crank, which is a place where it's nice to have it. And I always wanted to build the engine myself. (And in fact I restricted myself to planes powered by VW engines when I was looking for something to build). I've had experience with VWs, rebuilding a bug engine in the '70s on a car I had then. More recently, I pulled and rebuilt the head of my 2000 Golf GTI after breaking a timing belt, which led to the replacement of 12 of its 20 valves. I figured doing that myself would be good practice doing a long, complicated project and also building an aero-VW engine (and believe me, the head of a dual-overhead-camshaft five-valves-per-cylinder turbocharged Golf has more parts than a Type 1 engine and is far more complicated). So the idea of buying an engine built by some company that boasts of all kinds of modifications it made to the VW design is not only uninteresting to me but positively repellent. There's no way I would ever consider it, though I might want to use some parts such as the improved Revmaster heads if the heads on this engine have any problems. Finally, I'd be interested in buying a stock Type 1 head that's cracked, worn out or otherwise a junker. I want to mill the head for two plugs per cylinder myself, and I'd like a junk head to practice on. Mike Taglieri On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet < krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: > Mike T. said: > > This is extremely distressing if it ultimately collapses. I just took > > delivery of a stock VW engine that seems to be all there and has a few > > accessories (including some by Great Plains). But I want to add 1835 > jugs > > and a Force One prop hub, and as far as I know at least the latter is > made > > by GPASC and nobody else. > > Sounds like you've got some decision making to do. Like Mark said, if > going to 1835, why not go to 2180 cylinders & shims and a stroker crank? > Of course, you'll need to do some slight case milling to fit the longer > crank throw. Since it's a GP engine (or partly so?), it surely doesn't > have a cast crank in it so you've got a good crank as is, but it's a > mystery why it's not already drilled for the Force 1 hub. You've got a > mystery engine. If it DOES have a cast crank . . . boat anchor. > > Mark said, > > "If you've ever seen a 4340 Scat crank (which is the > basis for the GPASC, and maybe the Revmaster), the fillet radii are > very nice, as is the workmanship. VWs broke a lot of cranks in the > early days, and the Revmaster (who was probably first to do it) and > GPASC hubs, paired with very robust cranks, pretty much put an end to > it." > > VW's of both the Revmaster, Rex Taylor and GPASC models broke a lot of > cranks before they learned to use forged cranks. I think Steve told me > once that Type 1 VW's from Germany always had forged cranks . . . so if > my memory isn't playing tricks, I don't know where all the cast cranks > came from. Maybe licensed VW engine builders like in Brazil? > > My Force One Hub has never given me any trouble on my GP 2180 and you'd > think by now the seal would be worn out and I'd get a little leakage . . > . but nope. I've never taken the hub off so maybe that's the reason the > threaded screw backs out sometimes with some people. Wouldn't some > thread locker fix this for those to whom it might happen? I suggest this > in complete ignorance having never had the problem. > > > > I wish the best for whoever winds up owning GPASC. When Steve and Linda > built it there was always somebody at the other end of the phone to get > something sent, often the same day. And they had everything! I hope > whoever the new owners turn out to be take the business as seriously as > Steve & Linda did. Lots of history and lots of support for our kinds of > planes disappeared when they left the scene and they are missed. > > Time and technology marches on and for someone starting fresh, I'd sure > take a look at the Revmaster R-2300. The thi
Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster-O-200
I'm not planning to spend $8k - $9k, I'm looking into it to determine what it will cost me. I suspect an O-200 might be too heavy for my V-Witt. On 9/6/2018 5:48 PM, Larry via KRnet wrote: On 9/6/2018 6:14 PM, Chris Kinnaman via KRnet wrote: Just the other night I was doing some catalog engineering along these lines for the same reasons. I like the Revmaster R2300 case and crank and the ability to use a 4" prop extension with them. + If I were building a 2s and planned to spend $8K to 9K on a VW I think I'd be looking at an 0-200. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains
Mike Stirewalt wrote: >>Wouldn't some thread locker fix this for those to whom it might happen? << I had 620 Loctite on it, which is pretty good stuff. The primary mechanism for the torque transfer between crank and hub isn't the bolt, (and certainly not the keyway), it's the taper joint between the crank nose and hub (and the clamping force provided by the bolt). The two didn't match precisely, otherwise it would have taken a press to get them apart (and I've done that several times too). I used coarse and then finer lapping compound for probably two hours to lap the two together for a tighter fit before reassembling again. Yep, I had to tear the whole engine down to mate them properly Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster
I'll have to jump in here and say, The o-200 is a great way to go. They are proven aircraft engines and have plenty of power for the KR's. From: KRnet on behalf of Mark Langford via KRnet Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:58 PM To: Larry via KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster Larry Flesner wrote: > If I were building a 2s and planned to spend $8K to 9K on a VW I think > I'd be looking at an 0-200. I have to second that motion. I'm working on a presentation for the Gathering and that slide is already in there... Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com Mark Langford's KR2S<http://www.n56ml.com/> www.n56ml.com Mark Langford's Homebuilt Airplane and Online Builder's Manual. Updated January 2017 - Another update to the KR2 refurb project, N891JF.. Just to let you know that I am still flying, and I now have 1130 hours on the plane. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster
Larry Flesner wrote: > If I were building a 2s and planned to spend $8K to 9K on a VW I think > I'd be looking at an 0-200. I have to second that motion. I'm working on a presentation for the Gathering and that slide is already in there... Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster
On 9/6/2018 6:14 PM, Chris Kinnaman via KRnet wrote: Just the other night I was doing some catalog engineering along these lines for the same reasons. I like the Revmaster R2300 case and crank and the ability to use a 4" prop extension with them. + If I were building a 2s and planned to spend $8K to 9K on a VW I think I'd be looking at an 0-200. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains-Revmaster
Just the other night I was doing some catalog engineering along these lines for the same reasons. I like the Revmaster R2300 case and crank and the ability to use a 4" prop extension with them. On 9/6/2018 3:33 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote: Time and technology marches on and for someone starting fresh, I'd sure take a look at the Revmaster R-2300. The thing about it that I admire so much is that the power, both for takeoff and cruise, is produced around 3000 RPM. The two things I'd change about the R-2300. I'd put roller tappets on the rocker arms (or swivel feet) - (I can't believe they haven't done that already! ... Since it has dual coils for ignition and with a dead battery you can't hand prop it I like the 049 heads with 40mm intake and 35.5mm exhaust valves from their automotive catalog, so I can use auto plugs with a single magneto. Swivel feet, new rocker arms, and A/C-to-auto-plug adapters from the GPASC catalog. and I'd get rid of that Rev-Flo and put an Ellison on it. , I already have a couple of new surplus 4220 mags & harnesses, a Diehl rear cover for a mag puck, a Rotec TBI sized for a 2180 VW or a Jabiru and a Tillotson pumper carb for the accessories. This is for my V-Witt project. Apparently Joe will build an engine with a single mag if the customer wants it. I'll look into whether he'd build one configured like this or if I'd have to buy it as parts. Chris K ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
I wrote: > Or just bolt on the > "stock crank" hub, and live with 1835cc. If you are using a stock > crank, make dang sure it hasn't been reground with sharp fillet radii. > If you need more on that, see http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/break3/ And to follow up on that last sentence, the crank you got with your project may be suspect, especially if it's a cheap cast crank, or a reground stocker. If you've ever seen a 4340 Scat crank (which is the basis for the GPASC, and maybe the Revmaster), the fillet radii are very nice, as is the workmanship. VWs broke a lot of cranks in the early days, and the Revmaster (who was probably first to do it) and GPASC hubs, paired with very robust cranks, pretty much put an end to it. I'm sure you know all of thisjust mentioning it for any of the newbies on the list. The Corvair folks have now learned the very same lesson, and 4340 cranks and a front bearing solution have now pretty much ended broken cranks on Corvairs as well. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL ML "at" N56ML.com www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Mike Taglieri wrote: > This is extremely distressing if it ultimately collapses. I just took > delivery of a stock VW engine that seems to be all there and has a few > accessories (including some by Great Plains). But I want to add 1835 jugs > and a Force One prop hub, and as far as I know at least the latter is made > by GPASC and nobody else. Revmaster makes a similar hub, and I assume would also bore a stock crankcase to accept it. I like the Revmaster hub better anyway, as it uses a larger diameter retaining bolt and left hand threads to retain their hub to the crank. Having had mine unscrew itself on first startup of the engine, this matters. And yes, it was properly torqued, but apparently still not well mated to the taper. So the crank needs to be drilled and tapped as well. Revmaster's crank is likely something other than stock front journal length and diameter, as is the GPASC, so you probably need a new crank as well. I'm not very familiar with the Revmaster setup, as I've never had one apart, but I am familiar with the Force One Hub setup. I'm sure if you'll call GPASC, they'll fix you up with the same treatment for the Force One if that's what you want to do, but I'd agree that their future may be iffy at this point. Either way, I think you'll need a new crank, so you might as well go all the way and make it a stroker and go 2180cc while you're at it. Or just bolt on the "stock crank" hub, and live with 1835cc. If you are using a stock crank, make dang sure it hasn't been reground with sharp fillet radii. If you need more on that, see http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/break3/ . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL ML "at" N56ML.com www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
This is extremely distressing if it ultimately collapses. I just took delivery of a stock VW engine that seems to be all there and has a few accessories (including some by Great Plains). But I want to add 1835 jugs and a Force One prop hub, and as far as I know at least the latter is made by GPAC and nobody else. Mike Taglieri On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Rustin Brewer via KRnet < krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: > Great Plains is still around. I have an order that was shipped last > week. It took a few weeks to get it out the door but that has seemed > normal for the month after Oshkosh. > > The website does say that the company is for sale again. I think this is > the second owner after Steve. Hopefully, a new beetle flyer/ entrepreneur > will take it on. > > Rustin > > > On Mon, 9/3/18, Terence Teer via KRnet wrote: > > Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Cc: "Terence Teer" > Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 8:25 AM > > Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is > still around? Issues? I’ve ordered a few things from them > about two weeks ago ( online ) with no response. Tried > calling them to order but no response. Email with no > response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call > when open”. No luck on all accounts. What gives? > > > Terry KR2N6233K > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > to change options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a > message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/ > krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Great Plains is still around. I have an order that was shipped last week. It took a few weeks to get it out the door but that has seemed normal for the month after Oshkosh. The website does say that the company is for sale again. I think this is the second owner after Steve. Hopefully, a new beetle flyer/ entrepreneur will take it on. Rustin On Mon, 9/3/18, Terence Teer via KRnet wrote: Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: "Terence Teer" Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 8:25 AM Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on all accounts. What gives? Terry KR2N6233K ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Terry wrote: >>Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on all accounts. What gives?<< Marty sold GPASC to two A&Ps in Wichita, because he was buried with orders and he and his wife were constantly behind the curve trying to keep up. I called the A&Ps and asked about an exhaust system, and they said they didn't keep any around, but had the weld fixtures and could make me one in 4-6 weeks. That's when I whipped one up myself, although it did take a solid week of spare time welding (at my rate) to finish it. Engine mounts are made to order also, as I recall. Even though the website remained the same (with different phone numbers and addresses), there was probably enough confusion from customers, delays in setting up new fabricators, and "behind the curve" on the GPASC side to impact sales. I was offered the company by Steve before Marty, and I passed. I already have a decent job, which I'm hoping to retire from soon. Last thing I need is to be buried in the VW engine worldsomething I barely believe in anyway. Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Marty Roberts sold great plains. I'll look up who bought it. Ken Hurley On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 12:35 PM tinyauto--- via KRnet wrote: > > I know the guy that owned it passed away, but thought someone else took > over. > > > Kevin in Missouri > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Terence Teer via KRnet > To: krnet > Cc: Terence Teer > Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 10:25 am > Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? > > Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve > ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no > response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no > response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on > all accounts. What gives?Terry > KR2N6233K___Search the KRnet > Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/.Please see > LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html.see > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options.To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Web site says it is available for some to take it over. GPASC.com My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Terence Teer via KRnet Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 11:25 AM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Terence Teer Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on all accounts. What gives? Terry KR2N6233K ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
Marty Roberts has or had it. My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of tinyauto--- via KRnet Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 1:35 PM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: tinya...@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? I know the guy that owned it passed away, but thought someone else took over. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
I know the guy that owned it passed away, but thought someone else took over. Kevin in Missouri -Original Message- From: Terence Teer via KRnet To: krnet Cc: Terence Teer Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 10:25 am Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft? Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on all accounts. What gives?Terry KR2N6233K___Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/.Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html.see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options.To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
