Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-16 Thread Ilske Thomsen
In my opinion a piece for competition should never been framed. It should be to see from all sides. Ilske Vis a vis framing, some people think that pieces submitted to the fair should be in such a condition that the judge should be able to examine the back to see if the joining is really

Re: [lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Adele, here the competitions have a theme and exact dates for the size of it, so that all works are more or less equal in that. And I think a system about the special points of a work are important therefore the first point is to find out which work represent this theme. the next one in

RE: [lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Carolyn Hastings
: [lace] Judging Criteria In a message dated 12/12/2007 11:31:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What may not be challenging for someone who has been making lace for ages may be a massive challenge for a beginner. Unless you know the level the maker is at how can you

RE: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Carolyn Hastings
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Ligeti Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:24 PM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Judging criteria I would not accept anyone else doing the mounting for the lacemaker. Most copetitions state

Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Dmt11home
Vis a vis framing, some people think that pieces submitted to the fair should be in such a condition that the judge should be able to examine the back to see if the joining is really neat. So, what do you do when the piece arrives framed with no way of examining the back? Devon

[lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I rarely come across famed lace, - and then usually, it has had the glass removed - part of the show requirements - No glass. Many shows specify that the lace should only be mounted at the top, so the Judge can access the reverse side. Here in Oz, at the show where I usually judge the lace,

Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-13 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 12/13/2007 8:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think a handkerchief, for instance, wouldn't look very nice submitted loose Some people can fold a handkerchief very prettily and ingeniously, so that the join is presented on the part of the

[lace] judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
Beth writes: Some competitions allow a great deal of leeway to the judges, who too often allow unquestioned assumptions to support their judgement. There is frequently no way for an entrant to know what those assumptions are before entering! Before allowing this to happen, competition

[lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Beth Schoenberg
Hi, all, and Devon, Devon, you wrote: ... In my experience of judging, I have not been given any kind of guidance by the fair. The previous judge, whom I helped for many years, was a very seat of the pants kind of judge, applying gut feeling type judgements. I have, in my possession, two

Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 12/12/2007 10:27:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, weaver's knots are traditional, and, yeah, hand-made, too; I've seen the fan, and you have to really hunt around to find a knot, so they're nearly invisible as well. What was the problem?

Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Mary L. Tod
At 11:06 AM -0500 12/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point system that I usually use, would relegate the amount of points that could be subtracted for knots to a small portion, which is the strength of the point system. But a failing of the point system is that, for instance, in

Re: [lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
This is a good solution. It does create a situation where the person who mounts a piece of lace is taking additional risk. It is comparable to the situation that I faced when taking the driving exam in my teens. One of the incentives to use the driving instructor's car was that it was an

[lace] judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
I am really enjoying the thread on competitions and judging and often wonder why we need competitions. Do they not stem from the time where a woman's value was measured by her competence in the home What alternatives are there to reward people for exceptional handwork?

RE: [lace] judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Carolyn Hastings
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:31 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] judging criteria In the US, of course, we have so few lacemakers, and so few judges, and apparently

[lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread P A Lally
This thread had been so fascinating that I'm prompted to add a couple of thoughts. Here in Melbourne we have difficulty in getting lacemakers to enter local shows and competitions, some have had bad experiences with judging, others are just very protective of their own lace and don't trust the

[lace] Judging criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have always understood that knots in lace -( broken threads) should be taken out of the lace - ie, join the broken thread with a knot, then ease the knot to the side (out of the lace) and continue, then trim the knot away afterwards, and maybe darn in the ends. I never leave a knot in the

[lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Adele Shaak
We seem to have several judges on the list - I wonder, what would be your thoughts if you were faced with: 1. a superb original artistic vision and fantastic original design, in either a simple lace well made, or a difficult lace not expertly made or 2. A tour de force of technical skill in

Re: [lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 12/12/2007 11:01:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We seem to have several judges on the list - I wonder, what would be your thoughts if you were faced with: 1. a superb original artistic vision and fantastic original design, in either a simple

Re: [lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Ruth
What may not be challenging for someone who has been making lace for ages may be a massive challenge for a beginner. Unless you know the level the maker is at how can you tell whether it was much of a challenge or not? As far as someone else mounting the lace, I don't understand the problem.

Re: [lace] Judging Criteria

2007-12-12 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 12/12/2007 11:31:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What may not be challenging for someone who has been making lace for ages may be a massive challenge for a beginner. Unless you know the level the maker is at how can you tell whether it was much