[lace] attendance at general meetings

2004-08-25 Thread Helene Gannac
Nicky wrote: ...My husband and I were both delegates at the Scarborough Convention this year, I am a member he isn't. When it came to the AGM he was officiously refused entry by the woman on the door, I queried it but she was adamant that he was not allowed in - as was another mouthy person

[lace] Show results

2004-08-25 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thanks, Ruth, but you did not tell everyone, that the torchon piece I made was from the pattern you put in the UK Lace Magazine a few issues ago. Not many torchon patterns stir me greatly, but that one did, with the tallies in the trails. Ruth kindly helped me when I got stuck with the trails -

[lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Joan Whitfield
This isn't strictly lace, but same copyright subject. I bought a book last year about making beaded christmas tree ornaments(amongst other things) and am planning to sell some at a Christmas Fair I am helping to organize to raise money for the Care Home for which I work. As I have so little

Re: [lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Avital
I think this is clearly a breach of copyright. Even if you were making the ornaments yourself to sell, the law of most countries stipulates that instructions/patterns are for personal use only. Making ornaments and selling them is not personal use; it's commercial use, even if you're doing it

[lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Jean Nathan
As lace patterns pubished in books and magazines or sold as individual patterns are meant to be made and the design admired, then I can see no problem putting photos of the finished items on web sites, or displaying them elsewhere with the source of the pattern stated. In fact I'm sure the

[lace] crochet pattern

2004-08-25 Thread Jenny Rees
With all the discussion about copyright this probably isn't the time to ask about trying to find a copy of a crochet pattern! But maybe this is a bit different. I'm trying to find a crochet pattern that was in a series of English magazines called Busy Needles that came out monthly in the

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread nerakmacd
While still on this subject, but not about lace, I have a book of quilting blocks that I wanted to print off and use for a master copy. The book handily came with a cd of all the blocks to print(and adjust size if you like). Since I knew the author, I emailed her and asked permission to make a

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread nerakmacd
My youngest son, Alex, who is 20, just informed me the other day that Jimi Hendrix(for all familiar with 1960's music) did not, nor does his estate, own any of his works, and they cannot afford a proper burial site for him because the record company owns all his music and anything Jimi Hendrix.

Re: [lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread nerakmacd
If making items for money raising is against copyright, then woe be tide to all those who purchase Family Circle magazine and the like for putting patterns in their magazine for just that purpose. I think there is a point where the copyright issue becomes just a silly bit of nonsense. If you're

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread lynn
I also have the quandry that in making lace for the great niece/nephew's Christening gown, I am using my grandmother torchon lace, made over 80 years ago, as a guide to design mine. I have looked through several books to find similar designs incorporating spiders with fans and then had help

[lace] Whitaker auction

2004-08-25 Thread Dmt11home
I received this notice about the upcoming auction at Whitaker. There is some beautiful chantilly among the photos in the gallery. The message is from Karen Augusta who helps them identify the items in the auction: This summer Charles Whitaker and I have been photographing and assembling

[lace] RE: cross stitch fabric

2004-08-25 Thread Mary Robi
Greetings All, I'm behind on digests, so I'm hoping I'm not saying what's already been said, if so, please forgive. Because cross stitch fabric is loosely woven, it's a very unstable fabric. Cross stitches stabilize the fabric, but I wouldn't trust cross stitch fabric to not distort in the

[lace] Language clarification

2004-08-25 Thread Catherine Hill
I know this is probably a chat topic, but in her e-mail to lace Liz used the following phrase I remember her spitting the dummy about her HC! Can someone translate the phrase spitting the dummyy into American English and also tell me what an HC is? Cathy in Newark, DE

RE: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
Steph wrote: A completed piece of lace is a 'derivative work' from the pricking, and is subject to just the same copyright limitations as a straight copy of the pricking. Bev added: if a pricking is published with the intent that a reader would use it to produce a piece of lace, then the designer

RE: [lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
all those who purchase Family Circle magazine and the like for putting patterns in their magazine for just that purpose. If the magazine states its designs are for bazaar items, then that's tacit permission to use them for bazaar items. What if I bought yards and yards of fabric and made

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 25/08/2004 14:49:44 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the case can probably be made that they intended the patterns and their derivatives (the finished lace or bookcase or whatever) to be for personal use and not for publishing by the people who made

Re: [lace] Pattern copyright/patents/etc.

2004-08-25 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 8/25/04 8:14:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If making items for money raising is against copyright, then woe be tide to all those who purchase Family Circle magazine and the like for putting patterns in their magazine for just that purpose. I

[lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Annette Gill
I think there is a point where the copyright issue becomes just a silly bit of nonsense. If you're making items to raise money for a cause, I would say make them, sell them, and if someone wants to come sue you, let them come. Imagine how silly THEY would look, having their attorney send a nasty

RE: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
But can putting a boasting picture, with proper credits to book and designer, on a non-commercial boasting website, really be described as *publishing* except in the very widest sense of the word, ie make generally known. Surely it's the modern equivalent of having it hanging on your wall where

[lace] RE: Dummy spitting

2004-08-25 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Cathy and all, I remember her spitting the dummy about her HC! Can someone translate the phrase spitting the dummyy Lost their temper badly would probably cover it. Very common Aussie phrase, also referred to as cracked the s**ts or throw a wobbly as well as a couple of other very

[lace] copyright for crafters

2004-08-25 Thread Avital
Here are a couple sites that describe copyright laws in layman's language and how they pertain to crafters. The laws are American but copyright law differences between countries are not as dramatic as some people believe (mostly they affect books that are published in different versions in

[lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
Very interested in this thread. Now here is a thought - I have a pattern which I bought last year for some free lace. Now the 'pricking' is not a pricking in the true sense of the word - it is simply a the outline drawing of the pin lines with no holes marked. (Yes, very free lace indeed).

[lace] RE: language clarification

2004-08-25 Thread Helen Bell
Spitting the dummy is the equivalent of tossing the teddy;pitching a hissy fit; having a meltdown; tantrum; major upset. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace] RE: Language clarification

2004-08-25 Thread Helen Bell
Oops! Sorry, forgot the 2nd part. HC - highly commended Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace] Another 'rare' object on ebay

2004-08-25 Thread Jean Nathan
There are some 'Bucks' bobbins being sold on ebay. I've not looked at the others this seller has, but one is described as having a farthing and being rare with the inscription Farewell to the farthing 1960. These are currently being made and sold by Loricraft bobbins in Berkshire, UK, along with

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Ruth Budge
Lynn, I can put your mind at rest on one point - I.L.Soft (the author of the lace programme) does not own the copyright on your pattern!! The computer programme was only the tool you used to draw the pattern - from what you've said to me privately, I would say the ownership of the design and

[lace] Auction

2004-08-25 Thread Karisse Moore
I don't know about the rest of you but those pictures of the lace put up for auction makes me drool. I wonder how long it took to make those wonderful Chantilly skirts and how many women worked on them and how much they cost when they were first bought and how much compared to a days wage that

[lace] Re: pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:36, Panza, Robin wrote, in respionse to Jacqui's: But can putting a boasting picture, with proper credits to book and designer, on a non-commercial boasting website, really be described as *publishing* except in the very widest sense of the word, ie make generally known.

[lace] IOLI website

2004-08-25 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders, I had a reason to go to the Rocky Mountain Lace Guild's website (need another copy of Tina), and didn't have it bookmarked (*now I do*, so please don't worry about supplying the URL g). Piece of cake, I thought I'll simply get to it via the IOLI one. Well... No... :) I couldn't

re: [lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone R. wrote: Designers make a pittance from their labors. Some are trying to make a living at it and when we violate their copyright we are taking their livelihood away from them. Some are so close to breaking even that they B. scratches head in confusion: Are we talking about lace

[lace] Re: Dummy spitting

2004-08-25 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Oh Dear! Have I become That Australianized?! Now I don't know English English, from Aussie English!!! :) Sorry about that!!! Thanks for the explanation, Michelle. HC stands for Highly Commended, which equates to 4th place, usually. Thanks, also, Michelle, for the kind words on

Re: [lace] Out of Print Books

2004-08-25 Thread Jaqui Borg
I remember purchasing a book with a similar name, maybe if I get hard up for cash it could be a quick money spinner - Not likely, I find it hard to part with anything. Jaqui Melbourne, at the end of winter at last - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [lace] Re: pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 26/08/2004 02:21:33 GMT Standard Time, Tamara writes: And what about lending a book of patterns to a friend? No? The friend should buy it instead? Well... What, then, about library books with lace patterns in them? And, even more, what about the *lace* libraries that

[lace-chat] Fwd: The REAL purpose of my trip (from David Downunder)

2004-08-25 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
He's on a roll, after all those weeks of being deprived of the puter... :) Dear All, Having typed that long epistle yesterday, I realised last night that I'd forgotten to tell you all about the REAL purpose of this trip to the Northern Territory - that of documenting new archaeological sites

[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Old Lady, Speedin'

2004-08-25 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Not a brand-new one, but then, it seems right, that jokes about old ladies should be no spring chicken... :) From: B.B. An old lady gets pulled over for speeding... Old Lady:   Is there a problem, Officer?  Officer:   Ma'am, you were speeding. Old Lady:   Oh, I see. Officer:   Can I see your

[lace-chat] Pirate

2004-08-25 Thread Malvary Cole
A pirate walked into a bar and the bartender said, Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened? You look terrible. What do you mean? said the pirate, I feel fine. What about the wooden leg? You didn't have that before. Well, we were in a battle and I got hit with a cannon ball, but I'm