RE: [lace] An Australian Bobbin excavated
Brian, I am a member of the Needlework Tool Collectors Society (NTCS) in Australia and some time back at one of the Sydney meetings, a member gave a talk on that dig and showed some of the thimbles which were found. She arranged to borrow the specimen thimbles from the dig for the occasion. I can't remember the speaker's name or who owns the artifacts but I think it was a government department like the Water Board. I remember her saying that viewings could be arranged by appointment. I will make some enquiries and see if I can find the ladies name and details. Good luck with your film, and let us know when it is finished. It would make a great topic for a Lace Day talk/film showing. Annette Meldrum South Coast of New South Wales, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Lemin Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] An Australian Bobbin excavated This may be old news to many of you Australians. Currently I am planning to make a film of The Rocks (just an amateur film, for my own interest) and instead of focussing on grand surviving buildings and important men of the past, I want to tell the story of ordinary people and their everyday lives. As the result of this I have been doing a lot of reading about the early history and discovered that amongst the artefacts that were found on the Big Dig in 1984 of Cumberland Street, was a lace bobbin and lace pins, that had their heads half way down the shaft (!) I have written to the archaeologist to see where I might view these artefacts (and asked about other sewing tools also). No reply as yet, but I will keep you posted. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] antique prickings
Hi, Sharon Lucky you! I'm sure there will be others who know more about looking after and using fragile antique prickings, but I imagine pricking through a very fragile old card pricking would risk damaging it even more, I reckon it would be safer to use the old (pre-photocopier) method and take a rubbing of the pricking ( a bit like brass rubbing). Take the pricking you want to copy and place it upside down on a flat surface, fix a sheet of thin paper or tracing paper over the top and rub the flat side of a fat crayon (I'm not sure what brass-rubbers use, but those fat wax crayons toddlers use will do, or artist's pastel crayons if you have access to those) over the surface. The holes in the pricking will appear as dots on the paper.This is now a mirror image of the original pricking. If the paper is sufficiently transparent you can turn this paper over and prick directly onto card to get your copy pricking; if not, prick onto thick paper or thin card, turn this over and prick through the holes to get your right-way-round copy pricking. Good luck with interpreting/truing up the patterns. Don't forget to let us know how you get on with them. Beth In a very grey Cheshire, England (but at least it isn't actually raining this morning). Sharon wrote: I've just been given four antique prickings of four different types of lace..lucky, lucky me :) What I would like to do is make copies of them in black and white so I can study them.(...) One is on vellum, the others are on very fragile card. Do I have to prick through every hole onto carbon or what? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history
The history of linen thread was fascinating. Another fact I found out when researching family history, was that Nottingham lace was bleached after it was made. Presumably if the thread was bleached, it would be more likely to break on the lacemaking machines. If anyone can confirm this I would appreciate it. In my family line I have a family of dyers and bleachers living in Mansfield and Nottingham in the 19th century. Karen In Coventry where it is raining. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] fine linen thread -- history
On 17 Nov 2004, at 19:47, Alice Howell wrote: In my reading and study of lace history, the commercial viability of very fine linen thread was lost in 1790 when the cotton gin was developed, making cotton thread commercially viable and much cheaper to produce than the linen. The linen supplies that were already in the warehouses were used up by 1830. After that, the only extremely fine threads available were silk, and later, manmade fibers. Hi Alice, While the development of the cotton gin undoubtabley enabled fine cottons to be spun it didn't kill out fine linens quite as immediately as you say. I bought Fine linen DMC threads (150, 200, 300) in the 1960's. Likewise I have fine linen hanks from Harris of Cockermouth which date probably from the 1930's, and Knox's linen was produced until the 1960's I think and I have 150/2, 300/2 reels from them. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Stumpwork beetle book again
After much searching, I finally found the listing for this book. If you have Edward R. Hamilton's November 12, 2004 catalog, the book is on page 66, and the item number is 3304914, priced at $19.95 (USD), plus $3.50 shipping/handling per order. Unfortunately they only ship to US zip codes. Hamilton's has a website: http://www.hamiltonbook.com On the website, they add a 40-cent charge per item, but this is not mentioned in their paper catalog. and I'd try to paste the link to the book, but it's too long. How about a tiny URL? http://tinyurl.com/69dfr Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?
Dear Friends, My first thought was When did Marco Polo go to China? Sure enough, his dates are 1254-1324. Trade is always a two way street. While I don't necessarily think that it was Marco Polo or his father or their expedition that was the most likely contact point, I do think that traders and travellers could have introduced some European needle work in that period. My first thoughts too were of Marco Polo. His biography by McDONALD is well worth a read. But then, why would you think that European needlework was introduced as a result of his contact. Couldn it not just as easily have been the other way round?? Chinese influence came to Europe? Similar arguments have been produced regarding other such things as noodles (spaghetti); roses and wisteria Love David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: reticent list members
Dear Jen, Here goes. Why isn't thread manufactured today that is as fine as those available in the early lace-making days. I'd have thought that with the technology available these days (fibre optics, micro and nanotechnology etc etc) that small wouldn't be a problem. If they could do it in the 1700's, why not now? The threads certainly are available today. Can I recommend you do a google search for the website of Pipers silks in the UK. I am currently using their 2/20 silk for a large Chantilly piece and loving it. That's pretty fine - and they're not the only ones. Silkeborg in Denmark also comes to mind. I'm fairly sure 180 cotton is still around. Egyptian 170/2 certainly is as well. Threads from Pipers can be ordered direct from the website or from a particular dealer in Geelong. They only take about 5 days from the UK though. Regards David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] First Snowfall
Hello, Pene, from a spider very far away from Estonia! ;o) We have not yet got our first real snowfall here, although there were a few flurries on Halloween. Everything's at that bare and grey stage. I am not doing much lacing right now, except for a couple of knitted lace things (2 scarves for 2 different friends). Mostly, I'm knitting and spinning for holiday gifts. With the new year, I hope to have more time for me things, like needle-tatting and my poor, neglected bobbin laces. What are Cattern Cookies? Are they wheel-shaped for St. Catherine? --sue in Montana, where the sun is just coming up and turning the fog different shades of pink Pene Piip wrote: Dear gentle spiders, Yesterday (Tuesday) we had several snow flurries a light dusting overnight. Then mid-morning it started snowing for several hours now there is a good couple of centimeters which has accumulated on all the trees the ground. So winter is finally here in Tartu. And I've been tatting some snowflakes. Mary Piper's Tatting book has some interesting patterns. I adapted one four-pointed motif I liked into six points. I found that by using mock rings split rings, cutting tying off after making a round can be eliminated. I would like to remind everyone about celebrating St Catherine's Day on the 25th, next Wednesday. I'm hoping to make some Cattern Cookies. Stay warm happy, Pene Piip, who now lives in the white city of Tartu in the Republic of Estonia. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wire for lace
Yes, Jean, we have the 26 28 gauge in our hobby shops too. But it is too heavy for wire lace. Great for other things however. Lorri - Original Message - From: Jean Nathanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lacemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: [lace] Wire for lace Lorri wrote: This is not an item found at your typical craft or hardware store -you must 'think outside the box'. This is where I must mention that dreaded H word again - Hobbycraft in the UK. They sell 28 gauge coloured enamelled copper wire in copper, purple, red, green, blue and black intended for making wire coil beads for jewellery. I'm surprised that a UK craft shop stocks something that isn't readily available in US crafts shops because you're usually able to get all sorts of things that we can't. http://www.wires.co.ukhttp://www.wires.co.uk/ sell a whole range of different wires - coloured enamelled copper, woven cloth mesh, knitted - as well as a spiral beadmaker and wire craft books, including 'Copper wire lace', and will supply by internet order via credit card anywhere in the world - see their Info page. Wires.co.uk quote thicknesses in mm, where Hobbycraft quote the gauge of the wire. Somewhere on the web, there's bound to be a conversion chart. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fantasy Flowers
Le 04-11-17, à 01:43, Helene Gannac a écrit : Yours, busy as well, but stopping work next week to do a 3 day workshop with Rosemary Shepherd on Fantasy flowers. Oh! joy!! Yes, certainly a joy to take that workshop. I bought the book in Prague and I am now working at the flowers. The two first ones are done and I find that the linen thread that was sold in Prague a very good size for it and I am sorry that I did not buy more. Later, I want to make a try with wire- no need of stiffening then-! Please tell Rosemary that her book is very well done. It is the first time I do that kind of work and I appreciate the detailed instructions. Nicole Gauthier, in a cloudy but not cold Kirkland in Quebec - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] First Snowfall
Hi Sue and fellow spiders, Cattern Cakes ( as we call them in Norfolk UK) are named after Catherine of Aragon who once lived at Amphill Castle. They are specially prepared for St Catherine's Day -the patroness of spinners, lace makers, rope makers and spinsters on 25th November, they are tradionally washed down with Hot Pot - a mixture of rum, beer and eggs. The recipe is: 2lb bread flour,2ozs lard or butter, 1oz carraway seeds, 2ozs sugar, 1 large egg. Prepare the dough, then knead in the lard, caraway seeds and egg, when the ingredients are well mixed, divide into two, divide into 2 x 2lb loaf tins, cover and leave to rise, finally bake for about 20 mins 400f /200c/ gas mark 6 . Serve sliced and buttered. Enjoy, Sue M Harvey - Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lace List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [lace] First Snowfall Hello, Pene, from a spider very far away from Estonia! ;o) We have not yet got our first real snowfall here, although there were a few flurries on Halloween. Everything's at that bare and grey stage. I am not doing much lacing right now, except for a couple of knitted lace things (2 scarves for 2 different friends). Mostly, I'm knitting and spinning for holiday gifts. With the new year, I hope to have more time for me things, like needle-tatting and my poor, neglected bobbin laces. What are Cattern Cookies? Are they wheel-shaped for St. Catherine? --sue in Montana, where the sun is just coming up and turning the fog different shades of pink Pene Piip wrote: Dear gentle spiders, Yesterday (Tuesday) we had several snow flurries a light dusting overnight. Then mid-morning it started snowing for several hours now there is a good couple of centimeters which has accumulated on all the trees the ground. So winter is finally here in Tartu. And I've been tatting some snowflakes. Mary Piper's Tatting book has some interesting patterns. I adapted one four-pointed motif I liked into six points. I found that by using mock rings split rings, cutting tying off after making a round can be eliminated. I would like to remind everyone about celebrating St Catherine's Day on the 25th, next Wednesday. I'm hoping to make some Cattern Cookies. Stay warm happy, Pene Piip, who now lives in the white city of Tartu in the Republic of Estonia. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Southern Counties Lacemakers' Fair - Havant
I've had a few replies from people attending Havant on Saturday. Seems that 11.45 - noon at Roseground Supplies stall is the most suitable time and place - Pat Hallam and Pam Sharples can't really leave their stall. Liz and I both haved spider brooches for recognition. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] antique prickings
Hi Sharon and everyone Take a colour photocopy of each pricking, unless they are really roll-y and fragile, in which case I'd say prick through just one repeat of each. But if they can be flattened without damage, a colour photocopy gives you the clarity of the original. You can work the lace right off the p/c or make yourself a new pricking using it as a template. It's so easy - I did this with an old pricking mainly because I avoid pre-pricking whereever possible ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC on a deliciously blustery day (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Help for Jacqui
Jacqui wrote on 16/11 I have a favour to ask. I took up bobbin lace making in May this year and am now trying to teach some friends this art. I am looking for simple instructions, and prickings that do not carry a copyright (I will still reference the source material) as I am trying to get people interested and the books here (in South Africa) are very expensive if you are not going to continue with the craft. I also have a question. In some case messages have been brought over from lace is this another site? Regards and thanks Jacqui Hello Jacqui I am always a few day behind in reading and replying to the lace-digest, so you may have already had all the information you need, although I have not seen any replies on the list. It is wonderful that you are already teaching a new group of lacemaker after only about 6 months of lacemaking yourself. You know that the Witwatersrand Lace Guild has an extensive library of lace books, collected over the past 25 years or so. Many of them have been out of print for a long time too. They also have lace guild magazines from all over the world which have prickings and information in them for all levels of expertise. Most lace teachers start by using a book with instructions and pattern which they like and base their beginner lessons on that. Everyone has to start by learning the basic stitches and grounds and each book/teacher has their own preferred way of introducing them. As you go along you will probably develop your own method of giving information too, with your own prickings. Most beginner prickings can usually be classed as 'traditional' anyway. There are always loopholes in the copyright laws, for instance if you have the book and each student borrows it to make their own copy to work on. or if you write to the author or publisher to ask for permission to use their patterns for teaching, it is not likely to be refused. Once you have got over the initial hurdle and they are well and truly hooked, they can always choose their own patterns - with your guidance - and then you are merely 'helping' them to make the lace. I am not trying to discourage the purchase of books, to deny the authors their minimal rayalties, because I also earn my living by selling lace books and equipment, and sooner or later the students will want to buy some books of their own and you can continue 'helping.' Books are expensive here, but the English Lace Guild basic instruction books are quite reasonably priced and are available for Torchon, Bucks Point, Bedfordshire, Honiton and Needlelace. I am sure that they will gradually increase the range too. I also have Christine Springett's teaching videos available at a nominal rental for various laces. If you go to http://www.lacefairy.com/ you will find links to every kind of lacemaking site, on and off the internet. There are many sites offering free instruction and free patterns. Good luck with your teaching. It will only increase your knowedge and the size of our guild. Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place South Africa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE:antique prickings
I was going to suggest a rubbing too. Maybe using some parchment paper (like you getting in cooking stores) or greaseproof paper if that's what you call it (going for the Aussie/US lingo here). Then either transferring the rubbing to cardstock or if it's on parchment, you could almost use as is for a sample prior to working a trued one. I've done a rubbing before - many moons ago when I was a mere slip of a girl - and I seem to recall that it was a waxy type crayon that was used. I don't know how scanning it with a high resolution or even in negative would work. Some home scanners have good resolution (better than copiers), and can do photos and negatives. A digital photo of the pricking - close up enough to get 1 repeat, using a high resolution may work too, but that might involve a ton of post photo futzing on the 'puter. BW would be my suggestion, as it tends to give more definition than colour. Some people have all the luck :-) Enjoy the prickings - and the resulting lace. Enviously, Helen, in Denver. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: Catterns cakes
Sue, Below is an extract from the RMLG e-Newsletter I sent out at the beginning of the month, with some St Catherine's day information and recipes. Hope they help (or work). The book by Jones and Deer is wonderful, and has a nice recipe - but not for those who are allergic to tree nuts or specifically almonds. http://englishculture.allinfoabout.com/recipes/bedcake.html http://bobbins.lacefairy.com/BobbinMuseum/calender.htm http://www.schooloftheseasons.com/novdays2.html (has lots of other information I found to be new to me.) http://www.jane-williams.me.uk/SO/recipes/catterncakes.htm There is also a very good recipe in Cattern cakes and lace: a calendar of feasts (Jones, J and Deer, B), which I will not give here, so as I don't breech copyright laws. You should however, be able to locate the book through your library or request it on inter library loan. It's a wonderful book, and the watercolours on each page are so delicate. Cheers, Helen Bell RMLG Librarian - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: fine linen thread -- history
I don't know about Nottingham lace, but weaving with unbleached thread and bleaching after weaving is commonly done by handweavers to minimize broken warp threads. I like to weave with linen thread, and that's what I do. I never have broken linen warp threads (knock on wood!). The teacher of my linen weaving workshop recommends laying linen cloth on grass in the sun to bleach it but I don't know about cotton. My current lace project, a small Binche circle in 140 or 160 Egyptian cotton thread, is going to be an experiment with bleaching. The thread is unbleached and, it's really a dark ecru. My plan is to bleach after I've made the lace. I want to figure out how much bleach and how long for fine thread. I probably will try the bleach out with a small skein first though. My circle is halfway done and I've had one broken thread. It has a lot of square tallies and I tend to have more breaks the more tallies I do. Sally Schoenberg Anchorage Alaska - Original Message - From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:45 AM Subject: [lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history The history of linen thread was fascinating. Another fact I found out when researching family history, was that Nottingham lace was bleached after it was made. Presumably if the thread was bleached, it would be more likely to break on the lacemaking machines. If anyone can confirm this I would appreciate it. In my family line I have a family of dyers and bleachers living in Mansfield and Nottingham in the 19th century. Karen In Coventry where it is raining. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wire for lace
Hi everyone - wire is being used a lot in basketry now - perhaps checking out some of their sites would give other wire sources? (or confirm those already mentioned). Just a thought. -- bye for now Bev in blustery 'fresh' Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Busy lists
Claire Allen wrote: I'm not quite sure how Father Christmas can offend people from other faiths when he is not exactly a religious symbol himself. I too am an Atheist and I celebrate Christmas as the winter solstice festival that was hijacked when Christianity came to this country. And if people are not prepared to respect the main religion of the country they are living in maybe they should rethink where they live. (That is not intended as racist by the way). Claire Kent, UK I quite agree. Anyway, I can't see that many British Muslims or Sikhs or Hindus are going to be offended by Christians celebrating Christmas. I'm certainly not! Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] wire for needlelace
In a message dated 11/17/04 6:41:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I am really asking in a round about way is can you make wire needlelace. I had a quick try with the copper wire that dh had lying around, but the wire kept snapping when I tried to pull the buttonhole stitches in firmly enough. Firstly, is InterLibrary loan service available in Australia - at local libraries and at universities? I would think so, otherwise scholars would have gr eat difficulties! This is where you can go when you need books not available locally, or even in-country. I wrote a very long paper for Arachne about international InterLibrary loans a few years ago. It may still be on the Lace Fairy's web site. There are people outside the lace hobby community who work with wire - professional jewelers, textile artists and sculptors. One author I can recommend is Arline M. Fisch, who wrote Textile Techniques in Metal ISBN 1-57990-256-1, originally $30 U.S., 1996, Lark Books, a division of Sterling Publishing Co., distributed in Australia by Capricorn Link Pty Ltd. and in the U.K. by Guild of Master Craftsman. Do a computer search to find an e-mail address. (A different version of this book was published in 1975 by Van Nostrand Reinhold.) This author has written several books, but this particular one covers weaving, knitting, crochet, braiding, interlinking and its variations - sprang and bobbin lace, basketry, knots and knotting (such as macrame). Now, that does not specifically cover needlelace, but I see no reason why needlelace cannot be made if the appropriate wire is chosen. I would think, too, that it is not necessary to tighten up the needlelace because all the loops will hold it in place, just as macrame, knitting or crochet would. The book has a list of tools and equipment with comparative sizing for U.S. vs. British knitting needles, gauges of wire, etc. There is a large list of suppliers (including Australian), and a huge bibliography for students. A place where you might find more information about wire is in beading stores. They will also have books that may fill in technique gaps. Frish is a jeweler and professor of art, with many accomplishments to her credit throughout the world, and her creations in many top museums (like the V A). The use of wire in creating jewelry is quite ancient. I wonder if you might find some answers in local art schools that are training jewelers? The front cover photo of the book above shows a braided herringbone necklace in sterling silver strip, by Frish, in the collection of the Art Gallery of Western Australia. Lacemakers, do think outside the box, as someone else has suggested! Perhaps you will become an expert in something that has never been done before. Then, a whole new lace world will open up to you. Jeri Ames in Maine USA (She reads and reads and reads) Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lBusy Lists
One year we decided to celebrate Roman Saturnalia instead of Christmas. I did a lot of research on this but in the end, it was surprising how similar the Saturnalia was to Christmas. For instance, the giving of fruitcake is from Saturnalia and the wearing of peaked hats like Santa hats and the giving of presents. When my sister-in-law and her family arrived for just the dessert she inquired about why we were all wearing Santa hats and we had to tell her we were celebrating Saturnalia. I think appeared to be a non-sequitor to her. Devon How enterprising to celebrate Saturnalia! Did you also include the drunkenness that seems to have been part of Saturnalia? I'm always amazed when I read about the customs of Christmas as to how many of them pre-date Christmas. Yule logs, evergreen decorations, gift-giving, holly, mistletoe, carol-singing, candles and so on were all pagan. At least the ancient pagans can't claim to have invented lace Christmas decorations :) Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Nottingham lace thread
In a message dated 11/18/04 4:46:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The history of linen thread was fascinating. Another fact I found out when researching family history, was that Nottingham lace was bleached after it was made. Presumably if the thread was bleached, it would be more likely to break on the lacemaking machines. If anyone can confirm this I would appreciate it. In my family line I have a family of dyers and bleachers living in Mansfield and Nottingham in the 19th century. This would be true. Also, the machine oils and grit present in the weaving rooms would have made the lace very dirty. In 2001, I purchased a book in Nottingham that I have previously reviewed on Arachne - one that Devon has used and subsequently obtained from the author for the Ratti Center's library at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Ask your local library to get it for you to read. If it is not on the shelves, inquire about the InterLibrary Loan program. Another lacemaker in the U.K. uses this book loan service, so I know it is available to you. The book: Nottingham Lace - 1760s-1950s - The Machine-made Lace Industry in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire by Sheila A. Mason, 1994, ISBN 0-9524500-0-3. Sheila Mason is a major expert in the field of machine-made laces, and is custodian of the Mason collection of machine-made lace, which includes a Battle of Britain panel and other rare items (which have been written about on Arachne). Her family has been in the business of machine-made lace manufacturing for several generations. Having been trained in textile conservation, I spend a lot of energy reminding people who collect laces NOT to use bleach on them. It weakens the fibers. And if the thread or finished lace was bleached previously (in the manufacturing process), the chemical reactions of various bleaching formulas used today can cause the fibers to disintegrate or change to a yellowish color that can never be reversed. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Cattern Cakes recipe
Dear Maureen How can your cakes rise in the tin without any raising agent? Should there be yeast in the recipe? I'd like to try this recipe for my lace classes next week! Rosemary in Sussex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Age of Wonders-Tess and Prof site
I have decided to read Santina Levey again, including the notes. I have to tell you that reading Santina Levey now that so many of the articles that she cites are available on Tess and the Professor's site is an entirely different experience. I refer to the note, read it, then go to the computer and with a key stroke call up the article and read it. We are truly living in an age of wonders. For anyone who doesn't have it bookmarked it is: _http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html_ (http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: antique pricking
Hi Sharon, Lucky you is right! I agree with Beth that you probably shouldn't try repricking the holes. But I'll disagree with using a crayon to make a rubbing. I think you would have to press too hard to get a rubbing. Chalk maybe. If it were me, I'd be sticking it in my scanner and trying to scan it. Hopefully the little holes will show up as black dots. You might need to play around with your scanner. I have an HP (something model). When copying prickings I usually set it to 300 dpi, and Black/White output. The dots and lines show up a little more bolder when b/w, otherwise just some dull grayscale. ick. You might also be able to play around with some scanner settings to get rid of the background (is vellum brownish?) Or once I also was able to playaround with color background settings in Photoshop to get rid of the color. Anyway, playing around is as specific as I can get cuz I don't remember what I did!! Then if it is scanned it then you can also clean up a bunch of stuff in Photoshop. And you can also zoom in and see things in great detail on the computer that you might not see with the naked eye (or reading glasses ;-) Of course, this assumes you have a scanner or know someone who does. And have some sort of photo/graphing software to play around. Anyway, that's what I would do. Anita Cedar Rapids, Iowa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] interlibrary loans
Hi Spiders, Melbourne lacemakers may be interested to know that RMIT Uni has a number of lace, textile etc books in their library. Jeri's suggestion sent me to RMIT library catalogue, and as there is a School of Fashion and Textiles there are many books which may be of interest to some. I don't know what the interlibrary loan setup is between RMIT library and local libraries (I am a student there, so no probs for me g ), but perhaps Helene (our Froggy in Melb librarian) may be able to advise? Jen in Melbourne, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history
On Nov 18, 2004, at 4:58, Jean Barrett wrote: While the development of the cotton gin undoubtabley enabled fine cottons to be spun it didn't kill out fine linens quite as immediately as you say. I bought Fine linen DMC threads (150, 200, 300) in the 1960's. Likewise I have fine linen hanks from Harris of Cockermouth which date probably from the 1930's, and Knox's linen was produced until the 1960's I think and I have 150/2, 300/2 reels from them. In addition to the crowded environment for growing flax (which produces longer stalks) and then harvesting the longest ones by hand - a process which is no longer used, in addition to the possible loss of flax strains which tended to produce the longest/strongest strains, in addition to non-viability (finanacially speaking) of producing fine linen, etc, etc - all the reasons mentioned here before - I seem to remember one more. The processing machines themselves. It might have been mentioned in the same lecture that Clay was talking about (at the IOLI Convention in Bethesda, '99), or I might have read it somewhere - my memory is almost completely gone in some areas - but the essence was that the modern machines which process flax into linen thread prefer the stalks to be of a uniform 30cm (ca 1 foot) length; the longer ones get *cut*, instead of being cherished. Which would, naturally, eliminate the pursuit of growing long stalks - why bother? It would also account for the different look of linen now and, say, 80 yrs ago; now has more slubs and more thin/thick rapid changes. Just as the older lace-making machines (originally made in England, now sold to France, where the best machine-made laces are made still) were capable of reproducing lace which could fool most people, so were the older flax-processing machines closer to the hand-processing (for that matter, look at the early cars, and see how close they are to the horse-carts g). So, if a thread producer had an early set-up, he could produce fine thread for as long as the machine worked, and there was a supply of long-stalked flax and a demand for the thread - into the 60ties, as Jean says. Once one of the 3 factors - supply, demand, middleman - broke down, it was pffft..., and progress marched in, replacing quality with quantity. I would, BTW, recommend to anyone who comes to Virginia, to visit the Frontier Culture Museum located in Stunton, VA, despite some bad publicity from the PC Police. http://www.frontiermuseum.org/ The place is - more or less - a living skansen. It illustrates the 3 predominant plies - Irish, English and German - in the plait of Virginia's history. It consists of 3 *working* farms/households, each operating as close to the time of immigration as possible - the buildings have been moved in from their countries of origin, the farmstock strains have been rescued for the purpose, the curators/interpreters hump bull sh (literally g) while telling you about the advantages and disadvantages of leaving the old country... My DH sneers, but I find it totally fascinating (and, because it's so much closer to me, more fun that Williamsburg g) But, to come back to the thread and the thread... :) The Irish homestead grows flax for home use (which is then hand spun and woven, as it would have been whenever the family immigrated). When I last visited it - late June of '01 (*had to* show the place to a friend from Poland), the man of the house was gearing up for flax harvest. Many of the flax stalks were about my height (5ft2in; 62 inches, ca 157cm), some were above my head, some no higher than my waist (all were in a cramped environment, as the whole field is miniature). Naturally, I was *extremely interested* in how he was going to deal with that, and, like all the other curators/interpreters, he responded with relish to genuine interest... He wasn't going to hunt up the longest stalks one by one, the way they might have been hunted even in his lifetme (late 18th century I think), but he still wasn't going to wade in with an undiscriminate scythe, cutting everthing at the same level (as low as possible). He was gonna take a sickle, and harvest the clumps of longest stalks first - they'd make the finest fabric - for handkerchiefs, childrens' wear, women's underwear, etc. Only then he'd take a scythe to the rest. But, even so, the slightly shaded spot, where the flax was stunted and the stalks short, would be harvested separately - only good for sacks, he said. When you're hand spinning - a relatively slow process - the longer the thread is, the fewer the joins which slow the spinner down, so extra-long is prized, both for speed and for the results. And, a human is endlessly adjustable; 100 cm in one strand and 150 in another aren't going to throw her off. But a machine works to a pre-set gamut of paradigms and anything out of the box is going to confuse it (it's like the Cuisinart, or any other kitchen robot; if I cube by hand, I
[lace] cattern cakes recipe
Hi everyone, For those who want a recipe with NA measurements, here is what I use 1 1/2 c. flour a pinch of cinnamon 1/4 c. currants (more or less) 2 tsp. caraway seeds 3/4 c. white sugar 1/2 square melted marg. 1 egg Mix in order given, add more flour if it looks too floppy, roll out dough into a rectangle, sprinkle with a bit of sugar and cinnamon, and more caraways if you want. Roll up and slice into rounds. Bake at 375 F. for 10 min., but watch them. This is based on the recipe from Cattern Cakes and Lace - no leavening is given. I don't think Id like it made with yeast - then it would be more of a bread - but then maybe that's what they had and that's the tradition Sometimes I add a pinch of salt and a pinch of baking soda, to make a puffier cookie. I heard from another lacemaker that Cattern cakes turn out different every time. In looking over the various recipes (thanks for the links Helen) it seems that caraway seeds are the common ingredient in whatever sweet bread or cookie base. I thought they should be looking like pinwheels, sometimes the wheel effect is lost of the dough is too soft, but they are still nice eating. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: reticent list members (Pipers silk)
On Nov 18, 2004, at 5:09, David Collyer wrote: The threads certainly are available today. Silk and cotton are, but not linen, which is the most superiour thread for lacemaking, when looked at from many angles. It's almost as strong as silk (micron for micron), but not as slippery (ie easier to finish and/or add/remove threads), but it meshes, in motifs, even better than cotton, providing a lovely coverage. I'm fairly sure 180 cotton is still around. 180 has become a bit scarce, but 185 has popped up in its place, so all's fine :) Threads from Pipers can be ordered direct from the website or from a particular dealer in Geelong. They only take about 5 days from the UK though. When was the last time you'd ordered? g I ordered a batch on Sunday/Monday and was told that the delivery date *within UK* is 21 days; God and our president only know when it'll arrive in US... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re:[lace]cattern cakes recipe (fwd)
Hi everyone I wrote: This is based on the recipe from Cattern Cakes and Lace - no leavening is given. To clarify - the recipe from CC and L specifies self-raising flour. Bev's recipe does not ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Shipping of Lace supplies
In a message dated 11/18/04 7:40:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Threads from Pipers can be ordered direct from the website or from a particular dealer in Geelong. They only take about 5 days from the UK though. When was the last time you'd ordered? g I ordered a batch on Sunday/Monday and was told that the delivery date *within UK* is 21 days; God and our president only know when it'll arrive in US... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) --- Dear Lacemakers, I would like to comment on this rather negative remark that was in response to a letter that was meant to be helpful. It is my understanding that neither God or our President are directly responsible for the delivery of mail, and making such a broad accusation is unwarranted. Outgoing mail is leaving the U.S. and being delivered in rather good time. Even from this small town in central Maine. Very recently, I sent a lace book to Sweden, and it got there within a week. I also sent a lace book to India this month, and it got there in 9 days. Both were sent via air mail, as I have learned that it really is worth the extra cost (though quite steep) to get a package to destination with least delay in postal facilities - and this applies to any country's postal facilities, since I've shipped a lot of books back to the U.S. from European countries. Though some would disagree loudly, I would spend the money to take the lace friends to dinner, so why not spend that same amount to send them a good lace treat via speediest mail? Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Shipping of Lace supplies
On Nov 18, 2004, at 23:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ordered a batch on Sunday/Monday and was told that the delivery date *within UK* is 21 days; God and our president only know when it'll arrive in US... I would like to comment on this rather negative remark that was in response to a letter that was meant to be helpful. It is my understanding that neither God or our President are directly responsible for the delivery of mail, and making such a broad accusation is unwarranted. Outgoing mail is leaving the U.S. and being delivered in rather good time. 1) Pipers silk is being shipped from *UK*, not from US and, currently, they're telling me that the delivery time *within UK* is 21 days (as I'd said in my message). Possibly, there's a problem with the British PO; I wouldn't know, it has not been reported in my newspaper. 2) The phrase God only knows... is, as far as I understand, commonly used in English, meaning nobody really knows. 3) Our president has said - on several occasions - that he listens to a different father (not to George Bush of the Gulf War), definitely suggesting he's in direct contact with God. 4) It's, therefore, logical to assume that God and the current president of US are the only two guys who might know how long the mail from Pipers' is likely to take to reach US (abroad), if it takes 21 days to reach someone within the country of origin... I have no quarrel at all with the US PO; in my 31+ yrs in US, it's *never* failed me. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Cattern Cookies
As Helen Bell has already mentioned, there is the recipe in the Jones Deer book which I prefer to use. Last year I made cookies instead of cakes. So I'll post my cookie recipe as a variant to their recipe. CATTERN COOKIES Combine in a large bowl 1.25 cups of plain flour with 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon, 1/4 cup of ground almonds, 1 cup of sugar, 2 teaspoons of caraway seeds. ( One ounce of currants is optional, depending on if you like them or not.) Add to mixture 1/2 cup (100g) of melted butter 1 medium-sized egg mix all together. Then I just formed the dough into a long sausage shape, about 2 in diameter, wrapped it in plastic wrap stored the log in the freezer for an hour. Preheat oven to 400F / 200C then after removing plastic wrap, slice the log into thin slices ( about 1/4 inch wide) and lay them on a cookie (or biscuit) tray and bake for 10 minutes until slightly brown. I might have even baked them for 5 minutes on the other side. They are really nice dunked in tea or coffee. If anyone else makes them let me know how the cookies turn out. Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] food, glorious food!(lace-chat)
Tamara wrote: My step-daughter-in-law, who's Chinese, took me (and my DH, and my DS, and her own DH) to a China-town restaurant in Boston (MA, US) for a Sunday dim-sum brunch one time. We all hugely enjoyed it, but I was the only one who liked the desert... :) It must have been the Asian answer to junket - a bland, barely set, whitish something, with a hint of almonds and sweetness its only flavours. I was told, since, that it's made of soy milk and set with agar-agar but, even when I was able to get all the necessary ingredients (in a town too small to carry potato starch, *essential* for all Polish and Jewish cooking, agar-agar and soy milk are like dragonfly wings g), the whole thing never worked... Mmmm, that sounds like the one they have here as well. We go regularly to a Chinese restaurant for yumcha, and they have absolutely beautiful warm egg tartlets with flaky rice pastry which is divine, and coconut jelly which looks like blanc-mange, but is a bit more solid. They cut in in thick slices, and they wobble a bit, but we love it. I've been trying to duplicate it at home, and I do have agar-agar (want me to send you some, Tamara?) but so far, no good! What I make separates and although it tastes OK, it doesn't look too good Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, who is getting very hungry, as she had a sandwich for lunch at 12 noon, and is working until 8.30pm, so it'll be another 30-40mns after that before she has dinner...:-( Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [lace-chat] Looking for dust ruffles in the UK
Thanks very much! I was wondering whether it might be a terminology problem. I'll try some of the links you and Jenny sent me. Best wishes, Avital Hi Avital - I think it might be a terminology problem. Here in the UK they are called Valence(d) sheets and are usually a fitted sheet with the ruffle attached. They come in single, double and king size usually. Try www.argos.co.uk - they have plenty, as do most of the chain stores here (Littlewoods, BHS, John Lewis etc) You can fit them semi-permanently onto the sprung base of the bed and use a separate sheet for the mattress. ttfn Jacqui Jacqui Southworth, Fleetwood, Lancs, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW *** Christmas 2004 bobbin *** Larkholme Lace - Bobbin Lace Supplies, painted bobbins and tools,books www.larkholmelace.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] ice-cream (lace-chat)
Lynn wrote: Take 600 ml of pure cream (please don't ask conversions I don't know, probably a pint)whip it up, then add one can sweetened condensed milk (you can use the skim), just make sure you don't beat it into butter then flavourings, then chuck it in a suitable size container and freeze. Easy as that. My French friend's mother used to make icecream in one of those old type ice cube container where the inside came off. She left that off, of course, and used, I think, cream and condensed milk, like Peter, and fresh strawberries pulped in a blender. It just went into the freezer and got stirred a few times. It was beautiful, but I can get those metal containers anymore, they're all plastic now, and the inside stays where it is. Maybe I could try icecream cubes? My mother makes a tapioca sort of mousse which I guarantee you would all love! It's got eggs, milk and brandied fruit in it, and I can't remember what else. I also have her recipe buried somewhere...I'll have to wait until I retire, though, all those things take too much time to make, and too little time to eat...as well as too many calories to put on :-) Helene, the verrry hungry froggy from Melbourne. Just cold meats and salad for dinner, alas... Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] First Snowfall
Pene If you had remained in Mass. you would also have had snowfall. My Concord friend tells me they had 5 - 6 of snow last Friday. I can't imagine you would have had any less. Patricia in Wales who met you in Mass. some years ago [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: push-pin
My daughter asked if I had ever heard of an old English game called push-pin. I guess it was waaay before my time. It came up at college. Has anyone else heard about it and how to play it? Janice Judy Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:41:10 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Blair Subject: push-pin To: Janice Blair The game of push-pin is mentioned most famously by Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832) in his often misquoted statement: Prejudice apart, the game of push-pin is of equal value with the arts and sciences of music and poetry. It is also mentioned in Robert Herrick's poem, Love's Play at Push-Pin, and in Shakespeare's Love's Labour's Lost Act IV, Scene 3. The only other mention i can find online is from John Adams in a letter he wrote in 1820. Webster's dictionary defines it as a child's game played with pins. The note on Herrick's poem defines it as a game in which pins are pushed with an endeavour to cross them. Does anyone have any idea what the game really was? Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Push pin
There's reference to it on the following web page. Seems to be some kind of board game: http://www.fullbooks.com/Manners-Custom-and-Dress-During-the-Middle4.html Amongst the games comprised under the name of _tables_, it is sufficient to mention that of draughts, which was formerly played with dice and with the same men as were used for chess; also the game of _honchet_, or _jonchees_, that is, bones or spillikins, games which required pieces or men in the same way as chess, but which required more quickness of hand than of intelligence; and _epingles_, or push-pin, which was played in a similar manner to the _honchets_, and was the great amusement of the small pages in the houses of the nobility. When they had not epingles, honchets, or draughtsmen to play with, they used their fingers instead, and played a game which is still most popular amongst the Italian people, called the _morra_, and which was as much in vogue with the ancient Romans as it is among the modern Italians. It consisted of suddenly raising as many fingers as had been shown by one's adversary, and gave rise to a great amount of amusement among the players and lookers-on. The games played by girls were, of course, different from those in use among boys. The latter played at marbles, _luettes_, peg or humming tops, quoits, _fouquet, merelles_, and a number of other games, many of which are now unknown. The girls, it is almost needless to say, from the earliest times played with dolls. _Briche_, a game in which a brick and a small stick was used, were also a favourite. _Martiaus_, or small quoits, wolf or fox, blind man's buff, hide and seek, quoits, c., were all girls' games. The greater part of these amusements were enlivened by a chorus, which all the girls sang together, or by dialogues sung or chanted in unison. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Push pin
I think I remember my philosophy tutor telling us that push-pin was a gambling game, too. Linda Walton, (in wet and windy High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: ice-cream (lace-chat)
At 07:43 PM 11/18/04 +1100, Helene Gannac wrote: Maybe I could try icecream cubes? Try a small loaf pan or cake pan. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's foggy and damp, but not too cold. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] food, glorious food!(lace-chat)
On Nov 18, 2004, at 8:15, Dearl Kniskern wrote: I just googled coconut milk and came up with the recipe for it at the top of the list and there were more down the line But I hate coconut, while I adored the almond-flavoured desert :( There's nuts, and then there's nuts... :) --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Thanks!
I've been e-connected for about 10 yrs (9 at home), and the followng sums up a part of the experience very well indeed... g I'm leaving in all the mis-spellings, bad punctuation, bad paragraph breaks, capitals in wrong place, etc - they add to the authentic flavour :) From: C.B. 2 I want to thank all of you who have taken the time and trouble to send Me your chain letters over the past two years. Thank you for making me feel safe, secure, blessed, and wealthy. Because of your concern: I no longer drink Coca Cola because it can Remove toilet stains. I no longer drink Pepsi or Dr Pepper since the people who make these products are atheists who refuse to put Under God on their cans. I no longer drink anything out of a can because I will get sick from the rat feces and urine. I no longer use Saran wrap in the microwave because it causes cancer. I no longer check the coin return on pay phones because I could get Pricked with a needle infected with AIDS. I no longer use cancer causing deodorants even though I smell like a Water buffalo on a hot day. I no longer go to shopping malls because someone will drug me with a perfume sample and rob me. I no longer receive packages from UPS or FedEx since they are actually Al Qaida in disguise. I no longer shop at Target sincethey are French and don't support our American troops. I no longer answer the phone because someone will ask me to dial a Stupid number for which I will get the phone bill from hell with calls to Jamaica, Uganda, Singapore, and Uzbekistan. I no longer eat pre- packaged foods because the estrogens they contain Will turn me gay. I no longer eat KFC because their chickens are actually horrible mutant freaks with no eyes or feathers. I no longer eat margarine because it is one molecule away from beingPlastic and flies wonít even eat it. I no longer date the opposite sex because they will take my kidneys And leave me taking a nap in a bathtub full of ice. I no longer have any sneakers -- but that will change once I receive my Free replacement pair from Nike. I no longer buy expensive cookies from Neiman Marcus since I now have Their recipe. I no longer worry about my soul because I have 363,214 angels looking out for me. I no longer have any savings because I gave it to a sick girl who is About to die in the hospital (for the 1,387,258th time). I no longer have any money at all, but that will change once I receive the $15,000 that Microsoft and AOL are sending me forparticipating in their special e-mail program. Yes, I want to thank all of you s much for looking out for me! I will now return the favor. If you don't send this e-mail to at least 1200 people in the next 60 seconds, a large bird with diarrhea willcrap on your head at 5:00 pm this afternoon and the fleas of a thousandcamels will infest your armpits. I know this will occur because it actually happened to a friend of a friend of a friend. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Cattern Cookies
As Helen Bell has already mentioned, there is the recipe in the Jones Deer book which I prefer to use. Last year I made cookies instead of cakes. So I'll post my cookie recipe as a variant to their recipe. CATTERN COOKIES Combine in a large bowl 1.25 cups of plain flour with 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon, 1/4 cup of ground almonds, 1 cup of sugar, 2 teaspoons of caraway seeds. ( One ounce of currants is optional, depending on if you like them or not.) Add to mixture 1/2 cup (100g) of melted butter 1 medium-sized egg mix all together. Then I just formed the dough into a long sausage shape, about 2 in diameter, wrapped it in plastic wrap stored the log in the freezer for an hour. Preheat oven to 400F / 200C then after removing plastic wrap, slice the log into thin slices ( about 1/4 inch wide) and lay them on a cookie (or biscuit) tray and bake for 10 minutes until slightly brown. I might have even baked them for 5 minutes on the other side. They are really nice dunked in tea or coffee. If anyone else makes them let me know how the cookies turn out. Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
