At 01:49 AM 10/16/2005 -0400, Tamara P Duvall wrote:
On Oct 16, 2005, at 0:50, Jenny Brandis wrote:
While surfing this morning I came across this pattern and
immediately
thought of the tatters who are also lace makers
Jenny, you know I love you, so THIS IS NOT A FLAME.
Hi
On Oct 16, 2005, at 2:05, Jenny Brandis wrote:
I missed the word *bobbin* in front of lace makers -
so it should have read.
the tatters who are also bobbin lace makers.
Does that sound better? :)
Better, but... I also used your your original subject line, and have
kept it for this
Darn, English is such an impossible language ! :)
Jenny B who did not know she was intolerant (wonder if it is art
intolerance or craft intolerance or . )
At 02:15 AM 10/16/2005 -0400, Tamara P Duvall wrote:
On Oct 16, 2005, at 2:05, Jenny Brandis wrote:
I missed the word *bobbin*
Hello Spiders
When I did a few pieces of sprang in the mid 70s I learnt it's second name
as Egyptian plaiting. I also saw some pieces in the Egyptian museum in Cairo
but don't remember when it was dated, my google wasn't very succesful.
http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml
Hi fellow spiders,
I have been very spoilt this weekend as my DS and DIL bought me a pack of 2
ply lace wool as a birthday gift.
There is a web site for you to visit and pursue to see why I am so wrapt about
their gift.
http://www.artisanlace.co.nz/
Once I have finished the current hardanger
Helo Lacefriends,
Sprang is also known under the name Egyptian plaiting or in German
Stäbchenflechten in English perhaps stick or bone plaiting. The first
pieces were found in the egytian-coptic part of world. Also in graves
in moorland in the northern part of Europe. Luise Schinnerer textil
I am on another list with a woman who worked at the Arizona State Museum.
When I posted this link to that list, she said I retired from the Arizona
State Museum [in 2002] -- leaving the Tonto shirt was harder than leaving
some of my colleagues. It is truly a remarkable piece.
She also says . .
Hallo Cary and all spiders,
Cary, I do hope you will participate in the exchange and not let it put you
off, although I will be making bobbin lace I do not care one hoot about
what type of lace I receive in return, after all it is the thought that
counts surely.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
UK
That's it! I think this is just an amazing piece, and LOVE it! One of
these days, I'd love to do a reconstruction. Years ago, I tried my hand at
Sprang and remember it as no more or less difficult than bobbin lace - just
different.
Clay
Clay Blackwell
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And to keep this
The frontispiece and first chapter of Margaret Maidment's Manual of
Hand-Made Bobbin Lace Work is all about sprang/Egyptian twisted lace. She
says there
are two types of Egyptian lace found in the tombs. The first is knotted from
which the filet lace is developed (and I would have thought
In 4-H judging, we were taught to have the critique as: positive, negative,
positive.
Always a good technique when giving an opinion.
Lorri
Years ago I made my first piece of lace. I was so proud of it! Until I
took
it off the pillow and it promptly - well, twisted, I guess, is the best way
I don't think that's how she meant it. Your reaction was the same as
mine at first, then I decided she meant the also to be tatters, in
addition to spiders, being lacemakers, not tatting in addition
to 'real' lace.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
Kathy told us how upsetting it was when she took her first piece of lace off
the pillow and it twisted.
Well, Kathy, I don't know how long you've been subscribed to Arachne but not
so very long ago Brenda Paternoster was trying to do a 'research project' to
establish which combination of
Lorri,
I agree with the three stage appraisal. However, I like to think not of
negative criticism but constructive criticism i.e. to give students
something which will enable them to make improvements in the future.
Liz Pass (in Poole, Dorset)
Who's just stopped for a break from assessing
Lyn's comment about critiquing the work of others makes a good point.
I've just finished doing a Standardized Patient portrayal for 2nd year
med students, and part of the training for the case was learning to give
the students good feedback (they were trying to help me choose to change
my
It looks to me like this Tunisian Lace has knots (like netting) although the
piece pictured does resemble the sprang.
Is there a place/way to get a reprint of this article or purchase the back
issue?
Lorri -who is always interested in the different lace techniques.
The magazine La Dentelle
Yes, 'constructive' is a much better word!!
And the choice of words in the 'constructive criticism' are very important
too.
Lorri
Lorri,
I agree with the three stage appraisal. However, I like to think not of
negative criticism but constructive criticism i.e. to give students
Please don't let's politicize yet one more of life's pleasures (i.e.
real lace). Let the tatters tat, the BL'ers bob, the spiders spy;
and we will love them all. I did think the Christmas exchange issue
had been laid to rest. -- Aurelia
I don't think that's how she meant it. Your reaction
I haven't a reliable clue (and I wasn't there then), but it seems to
me possible (likely?) that needle lace and bobbin lace may have
evolved out of sewing and weaving techniques, respectively...which,
in turn, might have had to do with the types of grasses and fibers
available. Knotting would
On 16 Oct 2005, at 19:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kathy told us how upsetting it was when she took her first piece of
lace off
the pillow and it twisted.
Well, Kathy, I don't know how long you've been subscribed to Arachne
but not
so very long ago Brenda Paternoster was trying to do a
I demonstrated a few weekends ago where there were quit a few teenagers.
One particular girl had her pet Iguana with her. She was completely
smitten with the Springette snake I had on the have a go pillow, and sat
for quite a while, working the lace, with her Iguana sitting peacefully on
her
Given the fact that Arizona State has a museum which houses the masterpiece
of early sprang, AND has had the wisdom of supporting the scholarship of
our own Professor who has hosted the lace archives, would it be safe to
say that Arizona State has a world-class program in fiber arts? It
certainly
As an alumni of the University of Arizona - but not in textiles... I feel
I must make a wee correction. The museum is the Arizona State Museum, in
Tucson, on the U of A campus. Not on the Arizona State University campus
which is in Tempe. Chief rival thing and all that. Anyway, the State
I'm dieing of curosity to see the picture!!! Hopefully another convert to
the art of making lace.
Beth McCasland
in the suburbs of New Orleans
Clay wrote:
I demonstrated a few weekends ago where there were quit a few teenagers.
One particular girl had her pet Iguana with her. She was
In a message dated 10/16/05 10:49:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL
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writes:
If you have a copy of Gertrude Whiting's Old-Time Tools Toys of
Needlework, page 79 shows a sprang frame with work in progress that looks
somewhat like a piece of knitted lace. The List of
Hi all!
I am peeping out of lurk mode to put in my two cents. Having been a newbie to
several different forms of lace at different times in my life I would like to
share a little.
About 20 years ago, I took my first lace class in tatting at the community
center in the city I was living at
Carolina de la Guardia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following this thread, I have remembered Tunisian lace called also
Oudja lace or Chebka lace . Originated in North Africa it is made
nowadays in Maroc, Tunisia, Syria. It looks like to the piece you are
talking about. It is worked with needle and
Thanks for the clarification, Beth!!
Clay
Clay Blackwell
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Date: 10/16/2005 6:53:27 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Sprang in the SW US
As an alumni of the University of Arizona - but not in textiles... I feel
I
Fellow spiders,
Does anyone know of a source for hand blown glass ball ornaments at a
reasonable price?
I bought some hand blown glass ornaments 2-3 years ago at Michael's reduced
after Christmas, fifty cents or a dollar each I think. I have been crocheting
and tatting lace on them since, but
Hi everyone, particular those taking part in the card exchange -
About 40 people have signed up!
I have completed most of the assignments from names received to date -
if you have sent me your name you should have received a message back
from me saying something like 'ok, you're in, I'll write
I don't often put eBay auction items on Lace, but this one is worth a
look. The auction is over, but you can still click on the web address and
take it look. It sold for over $6000.
It is a full, long, trained skirt from a hundred years ago or more.
Wow, this is so far removed from torchon that I have no idea as to how
long it would have taken to execute but ... wow.
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?
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They do have a similar appearance. However, I realize we have not yet
really said how sprang is made, and boy! I find it hard to describe
without drawing little diagrams!
Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
Didn't my message arrive? I'll repeat:
If anyone's waiting for the publication of the paperback of Monica Ferris'
'Crewel Yule', mine arrived from Amazon yesterday. only thing was that, in
order to get free delivery, I had to order a couple of lace/needlecraft
books as well - such a shame!! Well, I'd rather spend the money on a book
A grandmother was walking with her little grandson along the beach, when a
big wave came along and washed the little boy into the sea.
The grandmother started crying and praying: Please, God, save my little
grandson! Bring him back! We'll do anything you ask!
Another wave came along and washed
I have a friend who is looking for a Ladies Circle Needlework Fall 1982
pattern.
The pattern to be ordered was on the last page $2.00
It is: #7592, All in one Piece! it's easy to crochet this 'good-feelings'
jacket from neck down. Use acrylic worsted in 2 colors. Directions, size
10-16
Dear Secret Pal,
Thank you for another wonderful parcel. I wish I had the 'free' time you
have!! I have added this month's card to the display of your cards on our
piano. I usually take down accumulated cards every month or so but I am
leaving yours there as they are so beautiful. I love
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