[lace] hint

2017-12-09 Thread Marianne Gallant
Sort of coming out of lurkdom to contribute a trick I have been using since I started doing/learning Flanders lace. I had a hard time keeping track of the 'ring pair' and often ended up going right past it and then having to unlace to find it back again. I finally hit on a way to keep track of

RE: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread Anita Hansen
That should be the 2011 convention in Bethesda, not 2017. Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

RE: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread Anita Hansen
I will confess to mostly lurking over the years with just occasional posts. I usally look daily at Arachne via the bookmark to the archive on my iPad, while getting digests in email. To reply is difficult because of need to get into email and retype the subject and cut/paste any discussion. Not

[lace] Spulfix bobbin winder for counter-clockwise winding

2017-12-09 Thread Earl & Ruth Johnson
Do you have experience using the battery-powered Spulfix bobbin winder from Germany? I want to wind Idrija bobbins for Idrija lace to be worked a bolster pillow and the bobbins need to be wound *counter-clockwise,* i.e. with the thread coming from *behind* and *underneath* the bobbin. Is this

[lace] Re: Smithsonian Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-09 Thread Susan
Thanks for the clarification Karen! From the online description it wasn’t clear that the lace sample is simply resting on an Ipswich pillow. So—even if this lace was made in Ipswich, it is not Ipswich lace because it doesn’t have the correct characteristics! This is where it would be

Re: [lace] snow art

2017-12-09 Thread martina . dewille
Thank you Lorelei, for sharing this link. Just beautful art - very lacelike. Martina in Germany, where it started to snow a few days ago. Am 9 Dec 2017 um 17:40 hat Lorelei Halley geschrieben: > https://www.facebook.com/pg/Avantgardens.org/photos/?tab=album >

[lace] snow art

2017-12-09 Thread Lorelei Halley
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Avantgardens.org/photos/?tab=album _id=1704517309562023 Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Sue Babbs
And I bought it when I first heard it was in print. Definitely worth getting. I put it on the demo table at the Chicago Botanic Garden so that I could talk about historical lace in the USA Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
I'm not waiting for Christmas, nor do I trust my elves to bring me all the lace books I want. I have this book, among others, on order (and I hope in the mail), and a bunch of CDs on my wish list!! On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: > > But honestly, doesn’t

[lace] Ipswich

2017-12-09 Thread Lorelei Halley
I have been collecting photos of laces for lace identification purposes. I have a pinterest board with some of Karen Thompson's photos. If I remember correctly they were originally posted on facebook. https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ipswich-bobbin-lace/ Lorelei Halley - To unsubscribe

RE: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread Lorelei Halley
I think so, too. Lorelei -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of N.A. Neff Subject: Re: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions One other thought: I'm finding some of the Arachne-like discussion is now happening on Facebook,

[lace] Ipswich (MA) bobbins

2017-12-09 Thread jviking
Hi All, I've found this thread interesting but only now checked the photos from the Smithsonian. Years ago I took our local kind of bamboo to Ken Van Dieren at the Ithaca Lace Days to make some Ipswich bobbins. Thinking of bobbins shaped on a lathe I couldn't figure out how he could use the

Re: [lace] Bucks Point-Hallowell, Maine

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
I am not sure Jeri's pillow belonged to Mrs. Lakeman. There could have been other lace makers in Hallowell. Moreover, Jeri's pillow from Hallowell is much larger than any pillow I have seen from the era of the Ipswich lace industry. The prickings I have seen from the late 1700s at the Ipswich

RE: [lace] Bucks Point-Hallowell, Maine

2017-12-09 Thread DevonThein
Not to argue with the general premise that Mrs. Lakeman was entitled to make point ground on a Ipswich pillow. But she must have had two pillows because Jeri acquired hers in Hallowell, Maine. Inquiring minds want to know more about this. It can’t be a co-incidence. Devon - To unsubscribe send

[lace] Smithsonian Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Hi Susan, The white lace on the Smithsonian Ipswich pillow is a simple point ground lace made about 70 years after the Ipswich lace industry. Moreover, as Adele pointed out, the Ipswich lace makers made white linen laces in the late 1700s. We don't have samples, so we don't know what kind it was.

[lace] Bucks Point

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
To get back to point ground: When was point ground c-t-t-t or t-t-t-c first used in England, France, or other places? There seems to be mention of it in the last quarter of the 18th century, but so far I have not been able to pinpoint an even approximate date from a reliable source. (I am not

Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace - silk vs. linen

2017-12-09 Thread Jeri Ames
It is explained in one of the Ipswich lace books that Elizabeth Lord Lakeman was 95 when she died, and that she was probably making white linen lace because that was what she could see.  It would have been useful to sew it to the edges of linen clothes and household linens, to extend their lives.

Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace

2017-12-09 Thread Susan
Thank you Gon & Adele! Not an Ipswich-er myself so I hadn’t delved into the finer points. Always something new to learn on Arachne & it’s lucky that we have so many experts! It could be interesting to work the same pattern in each thread to see if one is more effective or appealing than the

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich, MA > a point ground lace? If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope I’d be making a different pattern. ;-) But honestly,

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making the same pattern ;-) Adele > On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein wrote: > > But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked

[lace] Re: Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Yes, there is a point ground lace on the Ipswich (Massachusetts) pillow at the Smithsonian. It was being worked on by a 90+ year old lace maker in the 1860s. She had worked Ipswich lace during the late 1700s on the same lace pillow while living in Ipswich, MA. Not surprisingly she was still using

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread DevonThein
Karen writes: Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the 22 samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Maureen, Nancy and others, Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon variations and Kat stitch. The only time point ground was used in the 22 samples we have from 1790 is as a

[lace] Block pillow to cookie pillow

2017-12-09 Thread lynrbailey
"My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails."Like most people, I have many pillows for lace. My workhorse pillow is Ken Van Dieren's large block pillow, http://www.bobbinmaker.com/blockpillowkits.html (Satisfied customer, only) It is

Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: It’s explained in the book. They did make white lace in Ipswich (MA) - perhaps even a large amount of white lace - and the original samples sent to Alexander Hamilton comprised 22 samples in black silk and 14 samples in white linen. Unfortunately, the whereabouts of the page of white

[lace] Christmas lace

2017-12-09 Thread pamglew
Thank you Janice for sharing your Christmas patterns, and reminding us of the link to your website - I wish I had time to try the candle triptych, but I MUST put the beginner cat on our group's "try it yourself" pillow next season, since we already use several different fish patterns (including

Re: [lace] How to make a white copy of a colored pricking

2017-12-09 Thread Liz Roberts
Thank you Sally for that wonderful suggestion! I would have never thought of that! Liz in cold and sunny Missouri, USA ..."I lay the pricking I have over a white piece of paper, and prick it carefully. (Because the dark pricking already has pinholes init, it takes extra care to be sure your

Re: [lace] sharing.

2017-12-09 Thread Diana Smith
I’m afraid there are people in all area of collecting and crafting who are unwilling to ‘share’ - what’s mines mine and stays mine! Both my husband and I are ardent collectors and researchers, he of local topography and me, of course, the history of the East Midlands lace industry, workers and

Re: [lace] How to make a white copy of a colored pricking

2017-12-09 Thread Susan E Babbs
On December 9, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Sally Jenkins wrote: Jeri has made a request that more lurkers come out of the shadows and share what they know. An excellent suggestion, and just the push some of us needed! I don't think I "know lace experts who keep secrets" but I do

[lace] More Rosaline

2017-12-09 Thread Susan
It has taken hours of Google Translate but I now have a better understanding of this charming lace. I’ve been using three different books & Rosaline Perlee by Jan Geelen has been the most helpful so far even though it is written in Dutch. There is a section on each motif & diagrams to show

[lace] How to make a white copy of a colored pricking

2017-12-09 Thread Sally Jenkins
Jeri has made a request that more lurkers come out of the shadows and share what they know. An excellent suggestion, and just the push some of us needed! I don't think I "know lace experts who keep secrets" but I do know people who haven't shared what they know - because they don't realize they

[lace] Ipswich, MA lace

2017-12-09 Thread Susan
Karen was very generous to let me use photos of her Ipswich, MA lace samples in our library exhibit earlier this year. They were positioned near samples made by Chris Guarnieri from Karen’s book & they made a nice display. My question? Why is the Smithsonian Ipswich lace white? From

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
One other thought: I'm finding some of the Arachne-like discussion is now happening on Facebook, especially in the group Bobbin Lace Makers. I posted there recently about working snowflakes/snowballs/peas in Binche, and the post had a couple of photos with it. It is much easier (for me anyway) to

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Gon Homburg
Hi Maureen and Nancy, I thought that one of the characteristics of the Ipswich MA lace is the often different angle of the grid in the ground and in the motifs. The angle in the ground is 66° or 52° and in the motifs often 45°. Karen Thompson says the same thing in her book The Lace Samples

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Devon Thein
I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of

RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Maureen
Hi Nancy Thank you. I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very similar to Bucks Point. I think I need to see a book to compare. HI Maureen Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but

Re: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
I also agree with Catherine, but I think people are silent more often because of diffidence, or not knowing what others want to know, or being over-whelmed with what else they are doing. Why on earth would any of us intentionally "keep secrets"? The main thing is that we volunteer with

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Maureen, Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think. Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer

RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Maureen
Dear Nancy What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts please? I am sure I should know, or at least know where to look but my main computer often deletes part of an email, no matter who the service provider is. Hi Daphne, Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't

RE: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread Maureen
I totally agree Catherine. Maureen E Yorks UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

Re: [lace] Mechlin lace

2017-12-09 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Nancy An interesting thought. Sorry, I cannot help, the reference I came across was only to Mechlin. Since the areas in which the other laces were made are in close proximity to the Mechlin area it is very possible that they had the same attitude. Fortunately there are more prickings available

Re: [lace] Please Share Lace Experiences and Questions

2017-12-09 Thread Catherine Barley
I have always maintained that if one claims to be or advertises their services as a Tutor of whatever subject, one should be prepared to pass on ALL skills and knowledge, so that our craft may continue for the benefit of future generations. We have been led to believe that lacemakers of the

[lace] Santina Levy article

2017-12-09 Thread Catherine Barley
Good morning all t's now 7.45am Saturday morning and I have finally found time to read the fascinating article about Santina Levy. Thank you so much Jeri for all your postings on Arachne, which are always lengthy, well researched and full of valuable and interesting information. I wish you

[lace] NT Santina Levy article

2017-12-09 Thread phil powis
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/art-and-collection-resources Thankyou so much Jeri for the heads up and Amanda for the full link to this most worthwhile article. I live in Australia but belong to the NT and have never managed to penetrate this deeply into the NT website before - a

[lace] Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-09 Thread Ann Humphreys
Thank you Karen. That’s all I wanted to know. Ann UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/