Dear Friends,
Could I congratulate David on yet another excellent piece of lace.
And may I also publicly acknowledge Julian's promptness and
efficiency in posting all my photos. Miss Channer went to the framers
this morning.
I can now tell you that she took 158 pairs of bobbins plus 14
At 02:11 AM 5/05/2009, Beth McCasland wrote:
All I have to say is Wow! David, did you sleep or eat at all in
the past 3 months That's beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
Thanks Beth - just the usual 4 hours a night LOL
David
Beth McCasland
in a very stormy New Orleans
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At 02:21 AM 5/05/2009, Diane Zierold wrote:
Congratulations - What a fantastic achievement. Thanks for keeping us
appraised at the progress.
And how does one sew in that many ends?
You don't even attempt to - just cut them off.
David
Diane Z
Lubec, Maine
USA
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Dear Friends,
If anyone who knows something about the angles of point ground grids
and has a copy of Lace Express 3/97, check out the pricking for the
Floral Bucks hankie edging.
I'm working it now as I ponder my next project, and am finding
something very peculiar about the angle of this
Dear Jenny,
I've worked that hanky pattern and found the different approach to
working a hanky edging fascinating. For those that haven't seen
it - it is worked top to bottom like a mat - not around - starting
at one corner and working diagonally across to the opposite corner -
adding
At 03:47 AM 29/06/2009, Diana Smith wrote:
I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by
Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book.
I have a copy with the number 630 can anyone on arachne tell me the
date this edition was published? An interesting addition is
Alex,
my previous Canon scanner worked beautifully with slides - it was
less than $100 AUS a few years ago. It had a window in the lid where
the light could shine through. Much easier than trying to build one
of those mirror pyramids which had been suggested somewhere.
David in Ballarat
Dear Friends,
Some time ago at an artists' market I saw a woman who was selling
picture frames which she had made herself. She had actually cut
crocheted edges from old doilies, glued them on to the picture frame
and then painted them with a metallic gold paint. Those little 4
square frames
Dear Tess,
Anyway, what's done is done, and I hope that this will clear up some
of the confusion which inevitably occurs when one is trying to explain
a process without visual aids. The link to YouTube is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPezWMox5-M I hope you find it useful.
Thanks for your
Agnes,
David, would love to see a video of your method.
I have a friend who could video me. Will email him now
David
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK
David C COLLYER wrote:
I must tell you though, that I DO make perfect tallies using
English midlands bobbins. I must get a friend round
Dear Friends,
It's now 6:00pm Friday here in Ballarat and my friend Mike KONTUR has
just left. He recorded me making a leaf tally using midlands bobbins
and will now edit it and then post it on Utube.
I shall let you know the link as soon as he's done it.
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Dear Friends,
Mike has very kindly edited the video of me making a tally in bobbin
lace, and placed it on Utube for your edification. I look forward to
your further comments
David in Ballarat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYk
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At 04:10 AM 12/09/2009, Ruth Rocker wrote:
Hi all
I know I'm certainly enjoying watching these videos on YouTube. What
I need help with isn't leaf tallies, it's the square ones. I have
YET to make one and have it look right. What are the secrets?
Ruth,
if you use my method with the 2 side
At 04:01 AM 14/09/2009, Jean Nathan wrote:
David, you demonstrated the leaf on a clear pillow, but when you put
the two pins in to help with tension, do you just stick them through
the pricking regardless of what's there, or do you put them into
holes that have already been pricked?
Jean,
As
At 01:23 PM 25/09/2009, Laurie Waters wrote:
Take a look at Ebay 290350765094
Handmade blonde Chantilly lace or not?
Laurie
Most of her pictures were neither clear enough nor closeup enough to
be positive. If I was spending the amount of money people were
bidding I'd certainly need to be
At 03:28 AM 30/09/2009, Su Carter wrote:
Shirley,
Oh look, there's one just like yours on ebay: 350183137862
Thanks Sue - I just bought it!!
Now there'll be 2 of them in Australia
David in Ballarat
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Brenda,
Surely once something is out of copyright it is out of copyright and
anyone can make as many copies as they wish without reference or
payment to anyone. It's only works which are still within their
copyright time that copyright owners can sell or licence the rights to.
I'm fairly sure
Dear Sue,
If it were up to me, I'd go for attractiveness every time. Great minds.
David in Ballarat
I have a question for lacemakers with some knowledge of Chantilly.
I am trying to reconstruct an old pattern and have realised that I
don't know the answer to a question I have. I am
Dear Friends,
whilst I haven't tried it myself, I recall hearing some years ago
that a great stiffening agent is to make a saturated solution of
polystyrene in turpentine.
You just take chunks of polystyrene from around your new TV or
whatever and dissolve them in turpentine until no more
At 01:36 PM 29/10/2009, bev walker wrote:
Could you work on 3 circular needles? Two hold an even number of stitches
each, a third needle is active until the next needle is empty, and that
becomes the active one - assuming you are working a continuous round.
However I think this would apply to
At 07:49 PM 29/10/2009, Jean Nathan wrote:
There are some glass bobbins for sale on ebay described as a boxed
set of eight quality all glass bobbins.
Nice to look at but no good for silk. Even the best hitch tends to
slip on glass in my experience
David in Ballarat
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Diana,
Item number 250531072130 then click on See other items.
Interesting. Whilst this item is still there, there are now NO other items.
All seems a bit suss to me. Perhaps she bought a heap of them in
either China, India or Sri Lanka???
David in Ballarat
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Dear Bev and other interested readers.
Maybe David will remind us of his tale of woe and the Chantilly project?
I've been shuddering as I read these emails. The horror of that
moment of seeing the pillow upside down has never left me. Yes, that
was a Chantilly bow tie - long since often
The pictures arnt great, can anyone knowledgable about such things
tell if the lace is genuine?
http://www.kambriel.com/chantillyruff.html
Looks like it could be genuine to me.
Shame about the lipstick!!!
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
check out this item on ebay which the seller describes as big lot of
vintage antique crochet
160385479531
While the picture is not too closeup I think there might be some
lovely laces here - 4 days to go, currently only AUS$9.95
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
I was working on a beautiful piece of Toender lace today (thank you
Anne-Marie) and began to wonder whether what I was doing is peculiar
to a particular type of Point Ground Lace.
It concerns that aspect when I take a pair out of a Honeycomb area
into the Point Ground and then
Thanks Jacquie. That makes perfect sense - and to think I just liked hte look!
LOL
David in Ballarat
If you don't do this stitch as a catch pin, the ground stitch with its
uncovered pin, will move sideways towards the gimp and compress the
gimp against
the honeycomb stitches. By doing the
Thanks for waking us up Alice
What lace have you recently started.finishedmade progress
ongave away.put in an exhibit..etc.
I'm currently making myself a new Bucks Point jabot to wear when I
conduct a concert on April 24th. The jabot has a butterfly in the
centre and is
Dear Friends,
I think of rayon as being made from tree pulp, and though many fibers are
being refined to micro fibers, and bamboo is also a tree, fibers of refined
rayon compared to bamboo, are only close cousins in hand.
I'm currently using a rayon thread which I found in my thread draw. I
At 03:11 AM 31/01/2010, Susan Reishus wrote:
is this a natural fibre or not? David
Dear Susan,
many thanks for such a detailed explanation.
Now I have one more question related to rayon. Over the years I have
used as gimpd, and still do, rayon threads from around the 1930s
labelled Wood
Dear Sue.
Incidentally, I was taught when learning Bucks Point lace, that it
wasn't necessary to tension the lace as one went, because the weight
of the bobbins (spangled midlands) should provide enough tension
with such fine thread. Rather one should keep the bobbins well
spread apart and
Above all lacemaking has to be enjoyable, so I stick with the slower
but (for me) more enjoyable rhythm of working.
That's fine - each to their own. As I use photocopies with contact
over them, I never find the need to pre-prick a pricking. But when
doing a long line of CTTTs, I simply prick
Liz,
My method of fixing it, (more or less) was to go and get single focal lenses
set at the distance I sit from my screen - arms length!
I have them sitting here in front of the computer when I leave, and they are
waiting for me when I next switch the machine on.
I do exactly the same thing,
Dear Friends,
Has anyone seen the new series called The Tudors tarring Jonathan
Rhys-Meyers? I've been sitting through it for days now - enthralled.
The costumes are magnificent, and so far I've only noticed 2 big mistakes:-
- Thomas CRANMER's German wife had a lovely blouse of Battenberg
I was lucky enough to get a couple of photos of Henry VIII and did notice
that the front of his costumes seemed to be decorated with gold bobbin lace
I recall from the early 70s that there was a fabulous small museum in
Stratford-upon-Avon which had life size wax figures of Henry VIII and
At 06:59 PM 31/03/2010, Jean Nathan wrote:
Anyone got any ideas on what this is?
http://tinyurl.com/yju5sb9
or ebay item number 350334113458
It's surely got to be a measuring guage of some kind, but I've no
idea what. Never seen anything like it before.
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
There must be a better way! I am currently working on a piece of
Chantilly which uses about 85 pairs - nowhere near as many as some
I've done. However, this piece (p.98 in LOHR's Schwartzarbiet if
you have it) has very large maple-like leaves with numerous veins,
which require
At 03:29 AM 9/04/2010, Cherry Knobloch wrote:
Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back
part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and
under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this.
H - -- can't see that working in my case. I'm using a large
Dear Friends,
Another questions for your wonderful combination of minds.
How do you secure your pricking to the pillow?
I ask this because when I am working on something like a square or
hexagonal edging I try to use as few pins as possible. I can't stand
the bobbins I am using catching on
Dear Friends,
I should have said when I first wrote this question, that my pricking
are always photocopies or scans covered in Contact. As such, threads
like these would not hold, or would tear the pricking.
Thanks
David in Ballarat
sew
long loops of thread into the pricking at strategic
At 02:49 AM 10/04/2010, Sue Babbs wrote:
Ulrike Loehr (I've forgotten her married name) cuts her blue plastic
film bigger than the pricking and uses that to secure the pricking
to the pillow. I don't find that this works well if you have a piece
on the pillow for a long time, but then you can
Clay,
Ulrike Voelker also says .Instead, we should place a temporary
pin off to the side, but toward you, so that the threads must come
down in a straighter line before moving off to the side.
I have always done that. In fact I use a tall hat pin so that 7 or 8
bobbin holders will still
, USA
David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:
Dear Friends,
Another questions for your wonderful combination of minds.
How do you secure your pricking to the pillow?
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I cut my sticky plastic covering about an inch or so wider than
the pricking and place the pricking on the pillow, then lay the
sticky plastic over the top of it, securing the pricking to the pillow.
I really like the sound of this idea. But surely if it's a larger
piece of
At 05:08 PM 10/04/2010, pene piip wrote:
Ulrike Voelker also showed those of us attending one of her workshops
that you can also cut the contact that you place over the pricking with
an extra 2 to 3 inches around the edge then stick the contact to the
pricking the pillow you don't need any
The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for a
long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing.
Vivienne,
it's a luxurious idea, but I find my brass pins, many of which are
about 15 years old and used over and over, have not tarnished at all.
Perhaps it is the
Clay
does it hold up? And, the answer is clearly no. Before I had
finished one (fairly large) project, the gold plating was completely
worn away, and I was left with a needle that was indistinguishable
from the others in my needle case. Definitely not worth the money,
in my opinion,
I suggest
instead of fussing with the gold plating they focus on making good, strong,
VERY fine pins in a couple of lengths.
Here, here!
David in Ballarat
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Liz,
You mention having a horse hair pillow. Does that mean the pillow
is covered with a woven horse hair? Or is it filled with horse
hair? Or perhaps both? If it is filled with horse hair I wonder if
the hair was cut up into small pieces before it was put into the
pillow and does that
Dear Friends,
I arrived home yesterday after a month in Vietnam with the usual load
of stories and adventures.
However, with regard to lace, I found no sign of bobbin lace, tatting
or even crochet at all. In Saigon, I did see examples of Hardanger
and Roman Cut Work - all of similar design
Dear Miriam,
I will always treasure the beautiful one you gave me - must have been
back in the late 90s I reckon!! You worked my name into it - remember?
David in Ballarat
Whenever I finish a larger project and have too much thread left on my
bobbins, I use the surplus up making a
Dear Friends,
I have almost finished reading a book which was a school prize
awarded to my Grandfather, David McGARVIE, in 1902 when he was 10
years old. I can tell you that the language is even quite difficult
for an adult. I doubt it has ever been read. The book is called
Crown Empire -
Dear Friends,
I've just been looking at Mark's goodies and am now wondering.
can someone please tell me if an American sweatshirt is the same as
what we in Australia call a windcheater. Looks like it to me. If
so, I'll be getting one.
thanks
David in Ballarat
And here is my Magic
Dear Friends,
Earlier this week I received the book from Clay which I won in the
raffle. It's fabulous and I shall shortly have a go at some of the
designs - not Kitsch at all.
In the meantime, my crocheting sister Jenny has decided she would
like a Winder as well. I am wondering whether
Dear Friends,
Arachne comes good again. My sister's Crazy Daisy Winder is winging
its way to Australia.
Many thanks to the one of you who knows
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
I'm afraid there was a bit of language at the lace pillow today.
Have you ever pushed in a pin really hard, only to discover to your
peril that it was upside down??? I did it this morning and am sure it
scraped the bone.
Any other interesting accidents out there? Like cutting
Dear Friends,
As I was making lace today I noticed myself doing a few things which
I've discovered work for me but would not be mentioned in books necessarily.
Then I began to think, I bet most of us do such things. Now these
could be the very short cuts, handy hints etc. which would be of
Dear Friends,
As I spangles a few more pairs tonight I recalled that my method was
not how I was taught. Over the years I've tried wire (eventually
breaks); fishing line (same); and double threading through one way
and back the other: all of which took ages to do and I hated it.
So a few
Nancy
And the weaver pair threads broke--both of them, right at the point
of the sewing.
I still have that little scrap of Honiton, and am concentrating on
my Flanders!!
You're telling us that there was no way to fix it - h.
No chance of using a pin to undo a couple of passes then
Oh Claire
While sewing the flower on to the band trying to push the needle
through a stiff piece of fabric I managed to force the eye of the
needle completely inside the top of my finger right alongside the
nail. Ow ow ow!
Nail beds are the pits for that sort of thing - and the pain seems to
Dear Sue,
I have just found a nice little motif pattern I want to make for my
Mum and the pattern quotes madeira tanne 50 (which is 39 wraps and
is 2Z) in Brenda's book. I want to use my gutterman silk which says
it is 27 wraps and 3Z). Would it be sensible to print the pattern
out slightly
I've really enjoyed this thread, with names I've not heard in a long
time - if ever!!
Me too Clay. Let me add some of my favourites:-
- Mike BESTER of Sth Africa
- Graham JOHNSON of Ballarat, Australia (now deceased)
- Keith HUMPHRIES of Ballarat, Australia
- John BESWICK of Uriala, Sth
Roberta,
Malcolm Fielding (wood) ?
Although originally English, Malcolm has been living in Tasmania,
Australia for many years now - down near Huonville, south of Hobart.
I believe he is making bobbins again in competition with my
brother-in-law, Trevor SEMMENS.
David in Ballarat
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Dear Helen,
David Collyer might know or remember - seems like there was (still is?) a
bloke who turned tulipwood bobbins at Sovereign Hill. I remember going
there on a school trip and buying a bobbin there that had been turned by a
man in the woodworking 'shop' (he had a lathe obviously), and
Dear Friends,
I have a very special pair of bobbins who I was talking to today as I
worked and wondered who made them.
They are of glass and are filled with the volcanic dust from Mt St.
Helens. I do know it was Stormy Lee van den HOUTEN who gave them to
me so I assume they were made in
Dear Friends
Does anyone know what became of Maeve de Hetre (later Brown)? She
once made me a beautiful pair of bobbins in porcelain which she hand
painted superbly with Australian galahs (birds). Alas they are now both broken.
I last heard of Maeve in Florida about 5 years (or perhaps more)
At 01:42 PM 1/10/2010, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:
Some more Aussie bobbin makers, - besides John Beswick, are:-
Leon Young (our first one , I think!)
Max Meier
Neil Keats,
Bill Lafferty,
?? Gesaitis, (Judy's husband)
Malcolm Fielding
And let's never forget dear old Len Purcell, now deceased. I
Dear Friends,
I only ever tie my gimps on to the bobbins. Like Bev I never skimp on
thread and use it to anchor the bobbin (never dropped one yet in
private or public)
I tie the gimps because they are usually shorter and also I tend to
use that vintage Rayon (wood pulp fibre) thread which
Dear Friends,
While I was making lace today I was wondering if anyone knew anything
about WHEN spangles were first invented. I would assume they were
invented in England, as they don't seem to appear on the Continent.
What exactly IS their history.
David in Ballarat
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Dear Pene,
I was a newsletter editor for the New England Lace Group for 6
years, I always made sure that names were included spelt
correctly in any article that I published. But whenever I receive
the Australian Lace there are articles written where the
lacemakers are only referred to by
Dear Liz,
I am told that the jabot and cuffs made for the Lord Mayor of Melb has been
lost! I made half of one round of the 2 rounds for each cuff - a torchon
pattern designed to represent various icons of Melbourne. It was laid in a
beaut, lined, wooden box - so how can it get lost?
Dear Friends,
My first public display was in 1966 when I had to fill in time
before a rehearsal of the Royal Melbourne Philharmonic Choir. I
decided to take my life in my hands and sat crocheting opposite St.
Paul's cathedral in Melbourne. Alas I did get taunted and eventually
punched -
At 11:07 PM 19/11/2010, Clay Blackwell wrote:
I can only imagine the challenge of working tallies in
silk!! better with practice would definitely be applicable here!!
I've done a few thousand and they're no more difficult than in any
other thread.
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
I have just returned from a shopping expedition (mainly for presents
for Fiji next week) and I was at the electricians' shop. When I
explained to the bloke there about how lace makers are using one of
their tools for grasping short broken threads - many of you will know
the one:
Dear Friends,
In our list of those who have received awards for lace making, we
must also remember Miss Norma Benporath who was honoured with the
Order of Australia not long before she died in 1998 in a Queensland
nursing home.
Although born in New Zealand (in 1900), Norma spent most of her
Dear Alice and other Friends,
Many thanks for this interesting email.
I too use paper prickings with plastic contact covering. However, I
very rarely use the same one twice. I've always meant to make a
folder for these finished prickings, but at present they are all in a
drawer. I do make a
Dear Charlotte and other kind Helpers,
I tried using pins along the sides to keep the pricking in place and
as I recall that helped some. But basically I would have to lift the
pricking, lace and pins and move them back into position.
I couldn't stand to have to do that. There are 90 pairs
Dear Jean,
Fortunately most of the terms used in lacemaking are the same. Think
the only different I've found is in the size of crochet hooks. For
sewings I'd use a 0.4mm or 0.6 mm, but wouldn't have the foggiest
what size that would be US.
Not to mention my biggest bugbear: lacemaker vs
Liz,
Brian, - I have an old bone bobbin with Pharaoh engraved on it. I have
always wondered the what, why, who's about it!! It was one from my
family, - so Grandma's bobbin, or Great Grandmas, or..??
Surely it must be the name of a pet - cat or dog
Or perhaps an ancient forebear - LOL
Dera Clay and other interested Readers,
it was fine to do anything to a bobbin to make it possible for you
to use it, *as long as what you do can be undone*! Therefore, you
may re-wire an old bobbin, put new beads in the spangle, even
replace missing wire and tinsel... because all of this
Dear friends,
just had to tell you this. Because we're having a relatively mild
summer - floods and all that - I found myself today wearing the
sweatshirt which I bought from our own Mark. The slogan across the
front says Tatting is not a lost art.
Well, a woman who knows me spotted this and
Dear Sr. Claire,
I don't see any copyright issues here at all. You are taking inspiration from
the painting(s) and creating a totally different work or 'art'.
Do keep us up to date on your progress! And good luck to you.
You do have to be careful here. The problem lies in the fact that
with
At 03:28 PM 25/01/2011, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:
Brian asks : [hands up those who remember toasting their
bread on the fire using a long toasting fork! Delicious!]
Yes. my hand is up too. I still always do this when I'm camping out
bush, and just like Dad did - I make the long fork myself -
Dear Friends - especially those in Australia.
I am wondering whether anyone can tell me anything about the life of
our former member - Gabrielle DeMestre Pond, who died in the late 90s
at the age of 97yrs. Some of us are working at getting a bobbin made
to commemorate her life and need to
Dear Friends - especially those in Australia.
Further info found - thanks to Devon for your clue.
In Sep quarter of 1949 Mr. Thomas W. M. POND married Mrs. Gabrielle
Demestre LENANTON, TODD nee SLADE in the District of Tonbridge, Kent, UK.
More to come
David in Ballarat
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Nathalie,
Also I am on the lookout for information on the history of lace
knitting. I think (though not sure!) that lace knitting started as a
way to copy real lace by ladies who could not make proper lace. Is
that correct? Does anyone know where I could find more info?
I'd be looking
At 03:50 AM 11/02/2011, Diana Smith wrote:
Does anyone have idea what this item is/was used for?
Listing number 290532958457
H - when I first saw the tortoise shell bobbins they looked
like clothes pegs to me and it reminded me of a kit I have from the
1930s which was a Silk Stocking
At 07:39 PM 14/02/2011, Maureen Bromley wrote:
So what is it?
They got the wrong word - obviously meant to write baton
David in Ballarat
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Dear Friends,
some of you may be interested in this item
380312265660
It's a bit dear for me and I've got quite a bit of black for gimps at present
enjoy
David
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Bev,
the weaver's knot, aka sheet
bend, is most useful for tying two threads of differing thickness.
Although there's been much talk over the years about the Weaver's
Knot, I've never really bothered with it because I've always had my
own knot which works. Yes, my knot was the Sheet
Brenda,
Pa taught me to make a loop (uncrossed) and then using the other
thread I had to say: the rabbit comes out of the hole, around behind
the stump and then back down the hole again.
The things we remember!!
David
The Girl Guide way of making the sheet bend is to make a loop with
the
But Jane - a clove hitch bears absolutely no resemblance to a sheet bend!
A clove hitch is simply 2 loops placed one on top of the other (in
opposite directions) and then slid over the top of a stick, pole or
post. It has an entirely different function.
David in Ballarat
I think that's why
At 01:19 AM 22/02/2011, Karen M. Zammit Manduca wrote:
With me it was the snake that came out of the well! But that is a
bowline not a weaver's knot.
Quite right Karen. It was a bowline knot which took off the tip of
grandfather's middle finger. But that's another story.
It should have
Liz
I have been in contact with a needlelacemaker in Christchurch, - who is OK,
luckily, - and although she does not know Erica, she knows that she lives
in Hokitika on the West coast so she will not be affected like they are in
Christchurch.
Erica moved from Hokitika to Christchurch a couple
Dear Friends,
I was alerted to this Princess Pillow for sale on ebay today. The
bobbins are pretty awful - and so is the price. But it's worth a look
Item number:
160553976858
I've got 2 of these and am using one right now.
David in Ballarat
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At 07:58 AM 4/03/2011, Clay Blackwell wrote:
This pillow has an interesting story. It was made in the USA
around the turn of the 20th century
Mine is dated Nov 1903
David in Ballarat
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Jeri,
Other Nations: Remember that the videos made for American equipment will
not work. Buy videos made for your equipment. I believe these are still
available to you.
These days in Australia our digital TVs or Set Top Boxes can cope
with either PAL or NTSC so it's no big deal any more.
Dear Friends,
I'm currently working on a narrow point ground edging where the
actual point ground is only 7 pins diagonally. I've always
religiously pinned all holes but today thought I'd try making things
quicker by using less pins as I've heard others do.
I found that when I pinned holes
Jacquie,
If you don't pin at all you should get hexagons. I have done this
on simple patterns, just pinning the catch pins at the foot edge and
outside gimps. Or worked the row then pinned it. Even that is
quicker than stitch, pin, stitch, pin. But on anything complicated
I pin as I go.
Cynthia,
Sorry - had to send this to lace as your email address bounced.
I'd not thought of leaving out the pins entirely. I've worked an
entire row of point ground and then gone back and added the pins.
I'm not sure it's faster, because I have to play with the bobbins to
get all the
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