My impression is that they may be a Spanish speaking group. We heard
about them when we were demonstating in NY but I have no idea how to
contact them. If anyone ever figures this out, I would be interested
to hear.
Devon
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On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Regina Haring
The shape of lappets or barbes changed along with the style of the
lace almost decade by decade. The more simple cap you directed us to
was from the final decades of the 18th century, the other from the
first half. What era are you re- enacting?
Santina Levey's book Lace a History goes into
MMA not MOMA. MOMA is Museum of Modern Art.
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On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Clay Blackwell
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Since you've had access to much of this collection for a long time,
and your cup runneth over, just imagine how those of us in the
backwoods of
I have never tried this doubling process, but my first thought is that there
might be a significant difference in effect between a three ply thread for
which a cross section would be round, and two round threads sitting next to
each other for which a cross section would be more like a rectangle
This advice seems better calculated to ruin your clothes than preserve them. Do
you suppose they had young men who were serving their country on the home front
writing these? Or, perhaps it was a make work project to keep the country
invested in the war effort. I read somewhere that the metal
Are you assuming a single point of introduction, during which a mistake was
made? I would assume there were many points of introduction and contact, but
one country, or possibly several, regularized to left footside while most
regularized to right footside.
Also, I would have to disagree with
Ours are on the way. Because of different mailing options, members who are not
in the US often receive theirs first.
Devon
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Embroidery Series. The works pictured are "I am woman" and "Summer in
India".
Does anyone have contact information for Ros Hills or for someone who might
own one of her works, especially the location of the two works I mentioned.
Devon Thein
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have complicated other people's lives, so that isn't really fair.
Brenda writes<< Irish crochet only developed in the mid nineteenth century
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Again, going through Wardle's book, I see some references to the lace
collection of Queen Emma reputedly at the Koninklijke Verzamelingen, the
Hague. Even the wikepedia entry which I had automatically translated
confirms that this collection is at the Koninklije Verzamelingen, but it is
unclear to
I have been rereading 75 x Lace by Patricia Wardle, as I am planning a
vacation to the Netherlands and hoping to visit the Rijksmuseum. I keep
noticing in the footnotes that there are pieces of lace she claims are on
loan to the Centraal Museum in Utrecht. The book was published in about the
year
As stated before, I am rereading Patricia Wardle's book 75 x Lace which has
a great deal of information that seems to have escaped me on previous
readings. On p. 38, she refers to a Brussels lace manufacturer, Alphonse
Nossent, "who seems to have specialized in reproduction laces". The
reference
While I agree with all the other posters about thread, thread length, etc.,
let me be the first to suggest that your concept of having needle lace be
your "portable" lace may be unrealistic, especially if it is Hollie Point.
Generally people turn to tatting for a portable lace. My colleague has a
Thanks to all who replied.
I heard a report from someone who has visited the Rijksmuseum since its
re-opening, that there was no lace on display. Is this true? Or did she
just not find it?
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Be still my beating heart! Some young Brooklyn artists are starting a lace
group in Brooklyn. The first meeting is on Thursday and I am planning to
attend. You can read about it at this link.
http://textileartscenter.com/blog/brooklyn-based-artists-launch-nyc-lace-guild/
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Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I went to the site for ordering.
I do not read Italian, and I didn't want to get too far into the ordering
process. But it appears to me that this might be a print on demand book,
such as we have been discussing from time to time. I am not sure whether it
I like Agnes Herczeg's work, too.
Devon
On Monday, July 25, 2016, Witchy Woman wrote:
> I would definitely include Agnes Herczeg of Hungary in a show like this. I
> own one of her pieces, and it is beautiful!
> Her pieces are a genius mix of needle lace and bobbin
Dear Susan,
Thanks. This is very helpful.
Devon
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I guess there must be some celebrities who do knitting or crocheting since
someone said there was. The last one I recall was Rosie Grier who gained
some notoriety for needle point. .I have to say I am so far from even
knowing who celebrities are these days that it is embarrassing. But, my
limited
I would also take issue with the idea that knitting and crochet are popular
because celebrities are doing them. My perspective, of course, is perhaps
very limited because I live near NY. But, from what I have observed
millennials are making things as a form of self-actualization. They are
finding
I guess I should be clearer about my motives for asking these questions. I
am trying to put together a proposal for an art show in an art museum that
will consist of pieces of contemporary fiber art made with bobbin lace and
needle lace technique. The idea is to present works that show the
All over the world.
Devon
> > I guess I should be clearer about my motives for asking these questions.
> I
> > am trying to put together a proposal for an art show in an art museum
> that
> > will consist of pieces of contemporary fiber art made with bobbin lace
> and
> > needle lace technique.
I think there is widespread agreement that keeping track of hours and
charging a minimum wage for them and selling the lace thus produced is not
an economical proposition. But, I don't actually think that art is priced
on an hourly basis. You are not paying for time, you are paying for
creativity.
Sorry again. I realized I had sent this via the AOL account, not the gmail
account, so I am resending it.
Good idea, Jeri. In fact, when I attended the Grand Reveal for the Plymouth
Jacket that I worked on they handed me such a press release which I sent to
my local paper, largely in the spirit
people who are sending them
to me. There are about 1885 people who "like" the page. But, of course, those
who are not on Facebook can't see these postings.
Devon
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> Response to correspondence generated by De
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Dear Phil,
Thank you for the suggestion of Vicky Taylor. I was unaware of her work,
but it is quite interesting. I am familiar with the Love Lace competition
and have the catalog which I am using for a reference. As you say, it has
the broadest interpretation of lace in it. While Love Lace was a
Catherine Barley writes:
"Sadly so many mums don't have the luxury of staying at home to bring up
their families these days, so miss out on the opportunity of a little 'me'
time once they are old enough to go to school, which gave those of us of a
similar age, the opportunity to learn a craft such
Many good suggestions have been proffered for increasing the visibility of
lace. But, here in NY, what I am observing is that people who know how to
make lace, and are fiber artists are turning away from making lace art
because there is no market for it. We are, to use one of my husband's
"viewing and enjoyment of oil paintings by connoisseurs"
Devon
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The thread started off with Jeri saying, "We simply cannot afford to lose
so many of our very talented lace artists without replacements. In memory
of Radmila, "
Doris has just said of Radmila, "She arranged for us to meet prominent
Czech lacemakers, including Milca Eremiasova, Marie Vankova and
What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
call it "Embroidered Net"?
There is an entire realm of things that are similar to these laces called
names like Lazy Daisys. These are things that
Good point, Nancy. There was a lot of Battenberg and Princess Lace then,
also embroidered filet. Of course that is why it would be instructive to
know if the research is directed to what people were wearing, or what
people were doing in terms of handwork.
Considering the characters, I can't see
My guess would be that they were making revival era lace like everyone else
in 1908. So, winging it here, I would suggest cluny style laces that look
medieval. But, really, a very relavent question is "why do you want to
know?" Are you advising a stage or screen version of Anne?
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On Tuesday, October 4, 2016, Susan wrote:
> Forgot to ask--can anyone confirm that the IOLI library maintains back
> issues of Lace magazine published by The Lace Guild UK? Many thanks.
>
Next time use the term "off loom weaving".
Devon
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Dear Alex,
While I agree in spirit with your observation, I am in the somewhat unusual
situation of trying to review information in a museum data base, and determine
the best term for the technique. Interestingly, the data base has a separate
field for âcultureâ which gives the geographical
I think that the discussion of Bedfordshire lace, and the fact that it implies
a certain 19th century aesthetic goes to the heart of my unease about calling
Point dâAngleterre Brussels Bobbin Lace. It seems to me that the term Point
dâAngleterre, for all of its problems, implies a certain 18th
Youâre on. What should the subject be?
Devon
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Alex says, âAs it is rare to find a piece that can be traced back to its
place of origin, perhaps we need to come to an agreement regarding
classification by technique, bearing in mind that lacemakers did not work
rigidly to a set of rules. The same technique may be found in laces made in
Angharad Rixon posted a link to this business on the Textile Support Facebook
page.
https://www.contrado.com/custom-lace-fabric-material
It appears that just as the possibility for designing your own printed fabrics
has been available for a while, it is now possible to design your own machine
I am very impressed with the link that Janice has provided.
https://www.advanced-embroidery-designs.com/cgi-bin/cart/store.cgi?keyword=bo
bbin+lace=search
Someone has gone to tremendous trouble to produce bobbin lace like designs
for machine embroidery. Usually, when artists produce a lace design
<>
In fact, I think it is âchemical laceâ. The further instructions say that
you have to use something called Vilene Water Soluble Stabilizer. According to
a google search Water soluble embroidery stabilizers (WSS) will dissolve
completely when immersed in water leaving no backing at all. They
If Jeri would like to send her emails to me via my gmail address with the
notation that I should forward them to Arachne, I would be happy to do this.
Devon
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Lace art by Agnes Herczeg is also surprisingly affordable.
I had already realized this while researching the contemporary lace show I
am curating at the Hunterdon Art Museum in New Jersey, when I was contacted
by a man looking for an anniversary gift for his wife for the " lace"
anniversary. They
I was wondering about whether it was the self rising flour that was the
problem. I wonder why you need more water in the US. Perhaps a humidity
issue?
I do have the recipe in the very pretty book about Cattern Cakes and
holidays, so no need to retype it.
What about beverages? I see that something
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Subject is the sub-title of a book published in 1890 by Seeley and Co.,
Thanks Nancy!
Devon
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Page has been sent to Lorelei, Devon, and
Thank you so much for this, Karen. The pictures of the lace, which you say was
made in the 1860s, but on an earlier pattern and equipment do not present an
whole hearted endorsement for the practice of not using pins in the ground. It
is sort of sloppy looking.
I took a quick look through the
Karen, have you tried working it without the pins?
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I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA
and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace
industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an
anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of
I talked to Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi the other day about her work of
fiction based on the lace world in New York in 1980. Sharon has only
recently turned to fiction. She has done a great deal of scientific
writing including a non-fiction book called "The Worlds of Herman
Kahn: The Intuitive Science
Jeri writes: The above is an illustration of how one of you might take
over some lace news reporting, so I can cut back.
I would like to reassure Jeri that in fact Elena and I do a great deal
of lace news reporting, but it is invisible to those people without
facebook or instagram. Some years ago
I meant "cross, twist, twist, twist" for point ground.
Also, I meant late 20th and early 21st century, instead of late 19th
and early 20th century for the rise of grounds that require starching.
I plead a sense of disorientation from using a new mail program. I
hope these are transmitting ok.
Alex makes some interesting points in her post about grounds. The fact
that we no longer have the finest of threads which enabled the
elaborate quatrefoil grounds of the early 18th century is a shame.
But, they are very much of the aesthetic of that era. i am not sure
why simple grounds like point
Elena,
It crosses my mind that we should probably report to arachne that you
will be teaching a bobbin lace class at the House of Wax Bar in
Brooklyn on July 28th. The event which is likely to be of interest,
although not exclusively so, to the Goth and Lolita community will be
followed by a
I knew I was going to forget to go to the internet gmail site to send
the message in plain text, and I did. Here it is in plain text.
It is about Elena Kanagy-Loux. The article appears in Bust Magazine.
Debbie Stoller, also an Arachne member and Brooklyn Lace Guild member
is the editor of Bust
Vis a vis the catalog for Lace, not Lace. I am including Veronika
Irvine in the show, and her interesting mathematically derived 21st
century grounds. However, as I was scrutinizing Pierre Fouche’s work,
Judgment of Paris II, which is also in the show, I realized, with his
help, that the ground in
This is how I received my own message on my aol account. (You set it up so it
goes to both my aol and gmail accounts.) I havenât gotten it yet on my gmail
account. It tends to come in much later on my gmail account.
But I just checked the email I sent yesterday. It is ok on the gmail account,
I keep running across The English Lace School and Susan Cox. For some
reason I thought that the Sprigett's business had that name.
Can anyone explain the English Lace School and its role in the lace revival?
Devon
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As I explore the route of contemporary lace in the late 20th century,
early 21st century, I am wondering about Lace 98 and what role it
played. Being in the US, I am only dimly aware of this group, but it
seems influential.
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Dear Jo,
This is fascinating. Thanks for sharing it.
Devon
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Dear David.
I think the problem is two pronged. On the one hand the sender can
avoid the problem by sending in plain text, which in my case requires
me to go to the google mail internet site. On the other side, I think
there is an issue with the receiving person having some form of
outdated email
Kathleen writes: I wonder if it is simply that bobbin lace appeals
particularly to scientists and especially mathematicians. Moving on
from this, is it the more “regular” laces which appeal, I.e. Torchon,
Bucks and Flanders, rather than Bedfordshire for instance?
Actually, I have always thought
Dear Sharon,
Go to this link; http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/IOLI_2013_HVSCourses.pdf
Look at the second page of the class description. There are two leaves
in the upper left. They are virtually the same, but have to be worked
entirely differently, depending on where the pairs are entering,
How would you characterize the Binche lace of Kumiko? Is it modern or
traditional? The style, Binche, is traditional, but the subject matter
is Teddy Bears and Balloons and other non-traditional things. Any
Nobens's Binche that she designed with timely themes often oriented
toward the location of
Thank you Doris for drawing attention to this. I confess I have not
really examined the book very acutely since buying it new in 1973.
This blows my mind. I had been imagining that Gertrude Biederman was
cut in mold of others I knew in the era who were promoting
traditionalism in the form of
Dear Janice,
The one thing that everyone agrees on is that the Lolita fashion has
nothing to do with the book by Nabokov. Lolita seems to have the
meaning of "cute and elegant" in its fashion context.
It is a style, emanating from Japan that takes many forms. But, one
concept is that it is sort of
Dear Bev,
You seem to have a set of pdf's of the IOLI Bulletin? Are these
available somewhere?
The young man from New York City who teaches lacemaking would have
been Michael Auclair. He was very interested in the Ipswich laces, and
Irish laces, too, I think. He did some lace appraising, even for
I mistated the source of the article on Russian lacemaking. It was
Soviet Weekly, not the Daily Worker.
Devon
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When I was the IOLI Historian I wrote some pieces culled from
information in the earliest publications of the IOLI. I was intrigued
that in addition to Kaethe Kliot, there was another major lace figure
in San Francisco, Gertrude Biedermann, who espoused a more
traditionalist point of view on lace.
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/08/12/archives/lacemakers-preserving-an-ancient-delicate-art-it-kept-me-from-going.html
This is a link to an article that describes Michael and other people
making lace at the IOLI convention in NY in 1979.
Devon
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Dear Sharon,
If you want to see the obituary of a fascinating woman, here is the
link to the one that was written by Aurelia Loveman’s son.
https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg43510.html
She put on a lace show at the Walters Art Gallery in 1988 in
Baltimore. Later she was
I have to regard with mixed feelings the fate of these "lacemakers"
who were expelled from France and then encouraged to go to Australia.
These were people who did not sit at the lace pillow plying bobbins,
or making a fabric composed of buttonhole stitches. Instead these are
the people who
I am going on a lace retreat and we are planning a movie night. Many,
many years ago I saw a movie, or part of a movie. It was in black and
white. It was a B picture, possibly film noir. It was set in the first
half of the 20th century, I think. There was a woman who made bobbin
lace on a flat
Yes, it was âA Womanâs Faceâ.
>From the various write-ups, it sounds like there isnât any lacemaking in
The Lacemaker, but I could be wrong.
Are there any other ideas for a movie night at a lace retreat?
Devon
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One concept that I seem to have gleaned from my reading is that the
lacemakers in England did well during the Napoleonic Wars because
trade with the continent was cut off. Then after the Napoleonic Wars
things became much worse for them. Perhaps their number swelled during
the period when people
One book that I have found quite fascinating is Three Generations in
the Honiton Lace Trade: A family history by Margaret Tomlinson. It is
about the Chick and Tucker families. Admittedly these people were
"management", but they worked in the lace business and there are a lot
of details about every
Maureen,
Thanks for placing this in time for us. It was the February
Revolution, the revolution that overthrew Louise Philippe that forced
the departure of the lace workers to Australia. From Wikipedia it
would appear that this led to Louise Napoleon, Napoleon III taking the
throne, and resulted
Also there was some old story, donât know the source, that when the wealthy
had trouble hiring servants they would conspire to not buy lace, thus
forcing the lace makers to go âinto serviceâ. Being in service was less
appealing.
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Not that it is a work of history, but in the play âAsk for the Moonâ the
prospects for the illegitimate baby daughter of a lacemaker were so bleak
that her friends encouraged her to kill it.
Devon
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I would like to suggest that it is William Felkin's book, A history of
the machine-wrought hosiery and lace manufactures that Jane is
referencing. It is written in a very amusing style in 1867.
I am quite interested in the example of lace that Alex posted on her
site that is part handmade and part
Dear Debbie,
It may be the case that there really are not enough lacemaking scenes
in A Woman's Face to justify watching the entire movie, except that I
feel the general subject matter may appeal to the attendees. Similarly
the Scarlet Letter with Demi Moore has some wonderful lacemaking
scenes. I
He is deceased. Sadly, I believe he was an early victim of AIDs.
Devon
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi
wrote:
> There was a young man from New York City who was interested in lace in the
> period? Michael Auclair? Does anyone know about him?
I have just returned from our day of lace at Yale British Art Gallery.
It was really great.
The event was inspired by an exhibit that is not in the Yale British
Art Gallery, but rather in the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript
Library. The exhibit is called Text and Textile. While waiting for the
Jeri asked, and perhaps this was sent to me privately, I am not sure
since I don't get her postings, whether there was a link between the
Needle and Bobbin Club and the International Organization of Lace
(formerly the International Old Lacers). I don't there was. Perhaps
others have knowledge that
The IOLI started as a small sub-group of the National Federation of
Doll Clubs. A few people were interested in dressing dolls in
historically correct lace. Also there seemed to be some evolving
interest in dressing in old lace by the members. My understanding is
that as lacemaking became more
I am thinking/writing about the impact of the lace organizations in
transmitting lacemaking skills. Several of the artists in the show
benefited from learning opportunities offered by guilds.
The International Organization of Lace dates its start to 1953. I just
looked up The Lace Guild. It seems
he Pacific National Exhibition every year, who
> caught the eye of the women who started the Vancouver Lace Club, which is now
> over 63 years old. So, D isn’t a huge organization, but has had a wider
> influence.
>
> Adele
> West Vancouver, BC
> (west coast of Canada)
>
&
I just posted some photos on ning.
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history
This is a piece of what originally appeared to be mezzo punto. But I
think it is entirely bobbin lace. Perhaps, really, Milanese is the
proper identification. An interesting technique that at first looks
to
It has been a while since I read it, but I found Monica Ferris's book
disappointing in terms of lacemaking. I remember thinking that she had
obviously researched this to the point of visiting a bobbin lacemaker
and watching what she did, and writing down how the lacemaker
described it. I thought
Reading Lin's email this morning I was eager to post International
Lace Day on the International Organization of Lace's facebook page. I
tried to confirm the date. I think that it is actually July 1, this
year. So there is still a little bit of time to organize your
lacemaking and to post about
I posted another puzzling piece on laceioli.ning I am sure the ground,
which looks like needle lace is actually bobbin lace. But, I can't
quite figure out how it is done. Ideas?
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history
Scroll down to get to my posting.
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Thanks Joepie.
I feel like Potten Kant is a larger category dealing with different laces
featuring a flower pot design. Am I wrong about this? This is a very
unusual, to me, lace. It does not have any kat stitch or point de Paris
type ground in it. Only linen and half stitch. I canât find it in
Dear Lorelei,
And I must voice my usual response that I am not at liberty to share better
photos over the internet. I will send you some privately, for study purposes
only, and not for publication.
It is not a part lace.
Devon
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herself this morning and hasn't seen it come through, and she needs
answers soon. Please respond to lynrbai...@desupernet.net , not me ;-)
I am an idiot. DH and I are leaving Tuesday for Amsterdam, returning on
September 3. We
Clinton is about equidistant from Newark and Philadelphia. It is probably
best to rent a car, although there are some public transportation options
from Newark. Although originally the Urchins were supposed to be up for the
entire duration of the show, it is now the case that they will only be up
Sorry, the Urchins are up until Oct 7, not the 8th as I said.
Here is some info about public transportation to them.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FROM NEWARK LIBERTY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND NEW
YORK CITY TO
HUNTERDON ART MUSEUM IN CLINTON, NEW JERSEY
Transbridge Bus Lines (The Transbridge bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc is may favorite to date,
although at 1931, I wish it was a little bit earlier.
For Saint Catherine's Day, I tried to explore the lace tells, and to
that end, and with the help of arachne, located a Bucks Point pattern
that is simple and intuitive, then
One person has suggested off list that the woman is a lefty, or
injured her hand in an accident. But I think that a lefty would put
the pins in with the left hand, because that is arguably the thing
that requires the most precision. When I was trying to make lace as
fast as possible, and it was
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