Hello lacefriends,
it’s so quiet on the list I am in danger to loose my English vocabulary.
Did you all know that the congress from Deutscher Klöppelverband take place
from 20. t0 24.04.2022 in Gunzenhausen. Therefore my question does any of you
plan to go there. If so let me know that we could
I am about to put the pieces of the pattern together to start making it. Sadly
I cannot help you as yet.
Anna from a smoky Sydney where we are experiencing hazard reduction burning.
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> On 31 Aug 2020, at 3:20 am, Charlotte Moore wrote:
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> Has anyone made Christine
Has anyone made Christine Mirecki’s Dreiecktuck Natalie? I am trying to finish
it but the edge patterns do not match the body of the shawl?
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
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Hello Maria Greil and Sue
Tried to send my reply to Arachne, but email bounced.
Urling's was a shop in Germany that sold (amongst other things) lace.
So it is not a type of lace, but probably machine made lace curtains
etc.
Agnes Bod
I had never heard of it before, but an internet search came up with
these (and similar), which makes it look as if Urling's was a shop in
London:
https://sotherans.co.uk/products/lace-an-original-engraved-advertisement-for-
urlings-lace
Can anybody help me ?
I just read an article in an old magazine (The Ladies' Monthly Museum,
August 1822, pg. 109 - The Mirror of Fashion) and a kind of lace is
mentioned several times I do not know: *Urling's lace*.
Since the publication is English and there are a lot of arachne-members
from the
Thank you, Clay!!
Sue
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Good suggestion! But no!!
Sue
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You weren't working on leaf tallies at the time, were you? ;-)
That does take the cake
Sue, I’ve known you long enough and have communicated with you F2F enough to
know you do not pronounce “lace” as “lice”! Let’s file this in the bizarre
column!
Clay
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> I have been demonstrating lacemaking at the
You weren't working on leaf tallies at the time, were you? ;-)
That does take the cake!
Lorraine
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I have been demonstrating lacemaking at the Fine Art
I have been demonstrating lacemaking at the Fine Art of Fiber, Chicago
Botanic Garden for the last three days and am awarding this year's Prize
for the Most Unusual Question early as I doubt that anyone can top it!
It goes to the lady who asked, "Did you really say you were making
lice?"
I
Hi Sharon,
I don't think we need more labels. We have "antique" (more than 100 years
old, which includes Art Nouveau designs of the fin de siecle), "vintage"
(50 to 100 yrs), and "modern" (younger than 50). "Modern" is also used for
a particular time period in art and design that includes both
I happen to like art nouveau bobbin lace. Is this considered "modern"? I
imagine it is, but given the fact that it is more than a century old in
design, wouldn't it make sense for people to have a third category such as
"early 20th century modern" to distinguish it from designs created by
Re:
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:43:03 -0500
From: Elena Kanagy-Loux <enkanagyl...@gmail.com>
Subject: [lace] Question about early English lace
Hello all!
I am researching the development of the lace industry at the moment,
Hi Elena
I have a some references you might find interesting, Iâl
Thank you Laurie, and thank you everyone for your responses! Seems I had a
right to be suspicious.
Best,
Elena
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See the piece I wrote on LaceNews a few years ago, at
https://lacenews.net/2011/08/24/music-the-bonelace-weavers-song/
It is Part 1, because I actually interviewed Roy Harris about this, and
will write up my notes in a second article soon.
Laurie
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Hello all!
I am researching the development of the lace industry at the moment, and I have
a fairly extensive bibliography, but there is
My apologies for not trimming previous post
Sue M Harvey
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Thank you Brenda for that, I found out about many things concerning the Queens
wardrobe it made fascinating reading also made me very curious to know more
I shall be looking into that .
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
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> On 21 Feb 2018, at 21:57, Brenda Paternoster
What Thomas Wright actually wrote is
â "â¦bone-lace it is named, because first made with bone (since wooden)
bobbins.â
In the wardrobe accounts of Queen Elizabethâs day the terms âbone laceâ
(which was made with a fine thread) and âbobbin laceâ (which was made with
a coarser
Hello all!
I am researching the development of the lace industry at the moment, and I have
a fairly extensive bibliography, but there is one reference that I have only
seen in one place.
In Thomas Wright’s “Romance of the Lace Pillow,” on page 8 he makes a
distinction between bone lace as
Elena,
I would take this with a grain of salt. Some of the inventories that
actually mention bone lace are likely to have been metal laces, which were
certainly not "fine" in terms of diameter of the thread.
Kim
In Thomas Wrightâs âRomance of the Lace Pillow,â on page 8 he makes a
thanks Brenda and all of you answering my question. I got the first answer
privately and answered privately too.
The question came thinking about reconstruct a Bucks Point pricking for a fan.
Working on it I was wondering that on different points the angles were
different. I knew that not all
Sorry Bev that I give you a new name.
Ilske
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Good morning!
I actually did respond directly to Ilske about this but for those of you
that are interested here is what I said. My information is from studying
hundreds
of pieces of Tønder lace from the museums collection in Tønder.
bobbi
Good morning! The degrees range from 52 to 60. The
Hello Ilske and everyone
About the angle of Tønder laces, I have not seen an answer to your
question. In the OIDFA Point Ground Lace study book, the angles given for
pre-1900 Tønder laces are 56 to 60 degrees; after 1900 it is 57 degrees
only.
Does this help?
Maybe someone else can add further
I was in Bruges last October, and can confirm what Achim says. The Kantcentrum
and its museum have indeed moved, because the owners of the property, in which
it used to be, wanted to sell the building. The new centre is modern, light and
friendly, and the museum is excellent. There is modern
Hi all,
I was in Brugge 15 yrs ago and really enjoyed the lace museum. I visited
the city again last month and was disappointed to find that the museum was
no longer there. Furthermore, stores were selling most lace pieces for
really cheap, too cheap to have been made by hand, in my opinion.Â
Hello Dee,
the Kantcentrum is still existing - it just moved. I assume it’s bigger than
before, but I couldn’t visit it yet since when I was there on our way back to
Berlin from the Normandy we were too late (it closes at 17:00). The new address
is Balstraat 16. On the other side of the street
The Kantcentrum is now in the old lace school, I am currently in a Binche 4
class with Anne-Marie (there are 14 of us and two other courses going on at
the same time) There is a museum (and shop) on the ground floor with some
interactive displays, now back to the designing ..
Susan
I was so fortunate to attend one of Anne-Marie's summer courses a number of
years ago. I would love to be able to do that again, but sadly, I know that
this won't happen. Anne Marie has announced that she is retiring from
teaching. A number of her students, including Anny Noben-Slegers, are
Thanks to all who answered/explained. It does make more sense once you
know why there is a difference. I will try the different way of doing
things, at least while I am working through this book. In the meantime
I've also learned about a few other books on Chantilly lace. Books on
Chantilly
I have this book coming in my next shipment. I ordered it from van
Sciver, but she was out of stock last month. And I have also ordered
some of the threads used in this book. Oh my, 25,000 pins per repeat or
250 pairs? That is a lot of pins as well as bobbins. But I am starting
to get there
Hello Marianne,
Like, I just realized that Devon trolly lace is another point ground type
lace, and I'd like to try them all, I see now that the first book is already
out of print... i just can't keep up.
You wont miss much there IMHO - its not different from Bucks point and the
patterns in
Hello Marianne,
Adele has already given you a perfect explanation. I agree that you should
always follow the instructions and method used by the teacher or the book.
When buying books or magazines, we must always make sure which method is
using the writer. So it is convenient to get used to
This is a very clarifying explanation, as sometimes different lacemaking
methods with similar results lead to confusion. It is important to understand ,
the how and why teachers make things in one or another way. In this case
for practical reasons according with used pillows.
Thanks
Carolina
Chantilly is different in some minor respects - you’ll find out working through
Lia’s examples.
Then again: if you don’t want/need to work in a historically correct way, you
could simply work the pieces as you are used to for Bucks (you could even
mirror the pattern to have the edge on the
Hi,
I am thinking of starting some Chantilly lace, which I have never done
before. I have the workshop book by Lia Baumeister, and looking at it I
am a bit confused. I have done Buckspoint, which is very similar, with
quite a few stitches the same, but I am seeing with this book that some
Marianne
Lacemakers on the continent habitually put the footside on the left. And as
you say, that is a relatively easy thing to deal with.
As to CTTT or TTTC, etc. - don't worry about it. Just be sure to put twists in
where needed. Make sure that as ground pairs enter the foot, or leave the
Hi Marianne:
Structurally there is no difference between these two methods, which are called
the ‘open pin’ (TTTC) or the ‘closed pin’ (CTTT) method, and Chantilly can be
made either way. (In Ulrike Voelcker’s book “The Grammar of Point Ground” she
uses the closed pin method.)
With the open
And what about sequins? Can they also cut the thread? I have never used
them, but are now wondering...
Thanks a lot for all your contributions on this subject!
Best wishes from Spain: lovely spring weather today.
â
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Dear Antje,
You asked about sequins. There is more than one type of sequin or similar
attachment for lace and they are made from different materials. There are
probably manufacturers in many countries and they may have different ways
of manufacturing sequins. I suggest you draw thread
I imagine that you mean that the thread can break while working with it...
Or can it also happen that it breaks after you have made the lace, once you
are using it?
I had never thought of this before until Pene asked. It has never happened
to me... Do you think it can depend on the type of thread
It would certainly happen both while you were making the lace and later, when
it was being used, if you used sharp bugle beads. With the metal ones, I am not
so sure. It would probably be fine in the making, but wear through the thread
later. I don't think it would matter what thread you used -
I'm interested in hearing from anyone that has had the
experience of beads cutting the thread in their lace.
Please tell:
What size type of beads were being used?
And what size type of thread was being used?
Thanks,
Penelope
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I would agree with Kathleen here. Bugle beads or beads with chips should be
avoided at almost all costs when you are making anything involving beads. The
only way to get around the challenge with bugle beads is to put a seed bead at
either end of the bugle bead. Then the thread isn't rubbing
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I'm interested in hearing from anyone that has had the
experience of beads cutting the thread in their lace.
Please tell:
What size type of beads were being used?
And what size
I used several times beads in my laces. In no case happened anything like
cutting the thread or the finished lace.
Ilske
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As well as bugles, I was advised by a bead teacher that some of the round
metal beads (not glass beads) can wear through thread. So I avoided trying
them.
Sue
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Date: June 15, 2015 at 8:03:34 AM CDT
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As well as bugles, I was advised by a bead teacher that some of the round
metal beads (not glass beads) can wear through thread. So I avoided
On the UK TV show 'Tipping Point' on Sunday evening the question in the
category labelled 'Hobbies' was Which of these were the towns of Honiton and
Nottingham famous for? Three options were given. Of those, the answer wanted
was lace.
I'd hardly call the Honiton and Nottingham lace industries
Dear Chris,
First, using the Panix address to Arachne means your letter may get lost in
ether instead of going to our archives, so someone looking for it in near
future may not find it! However, this reply will make it through, so your
request is covered because most of your words have
The handbag mirrors are really good, and quick and easy to make , I have made
one each for most of my female family and friends and all have been greeted
with thanks and I notice regularly used. And they come with a nice little
velvet pouch to carry them.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.
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J D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com wrote:
Framecraft (sold by several lace traders) does small ceramic and glass pots
In the US, Nordic Needle http://www.nordicneedle.com/ and other embroidery
suppliers sell lovely wood boxes with inserts in the lid for pictures,
embroideries, or lace
Hello spiders! I do hope everyone has survived the cold weather and
snows we have had in the US and elsewhere.
I have been thinking of ways to display and use my lace pieces.
The one piece is a square and after thinking about it some I thought it
would be great inside a coaster form. Does
You can buy acrylic coasters that open to take lace (or other items).
There are those of normal thickness and others that are deeper for
thicker items. An internet search should quickly result in a source
closest to you.
Karen in Malta
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Hi Shelly,
I am just about to complete two coasters just as you describe. Not sure
which country you are in but I am in the UK and have purchased the acrylic
coasters from Clairs lace in Bournemouth. I chose her as I have purchased
them from her direct at a lace day and when I ran out I
Shelley asked: The one piece is a square and after thinking about it some I
thought it
would be great inside a coaster form. Does anyone know of anyplace to
find such a thing? I am thinking something along the lines of acrylic cover
that would
protect the lace but be functional as a coaster.
Depending on the size it might be difficult to find a pre-made coaster form
that will fit a completed piece. I have been pondering how to make a coaster
out of a piece of lace without harming it, and I came up with this:
Couldn't you cut two pieces of Mylar - a top and a bottom - into the
Hello Shelly and everyone
There are some varieties for example here:
http://yarntree.com/cross-stitch/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=132_225
but if those would be too small for your lace, how about a glass plate for
a temporary cover?
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Shelly
That is a really cool idea, Adele! I am just trying to think of ways to
use the small pieces I am making in decorating around the house. Only so
many spots to put up framed pieces, and figured it might be fun to
display the lace in different and unexpected ways.
Thank you - I shall play with
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That is a really cool idea, Adele! I am just trying to think of ways to
use the small pieces I am making in decorating around the house. Only so
many spots to put up framed pieces, and figured it might
Hello everyone
Thank you for all the answers to my question, lots of useful tips for
metallic thread creations, and wire lace too.
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For bobbin lace jewellery of metallic thread that touches the skin
From a conservator's point of view, glue is always a last resort because it
causes long-term problems of discoloration and disintegration of many
materials to which it is applied.
Backing with dots of moleskin sounds like a solution. Think in terms of
the size of a sequin, with one hole.
Hello everyone
For bobbin lace jewellery of metallic thread that touches the skin
(bracelet, necklace) I would welcome any tips to prevent or reduce
scratching on the skin.
A couple of us were discussing, thought silicon hand cream might help - on
the skin anyway. Could the thread be coated with
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[lace] question for metallic thread jewellery
Hello everyone
For bobbin
lace jewellery of metallic thread that touches the skin
(bracelet, necklace) I
would welcome any tips to prevent or reduce
scratching on the skin
Bev,
all those metallic jewellery I worked didn't scratch the skin. Important is to
work properly the endings and try to make them smooth with sandpaper or put a
bit of uncolored varnish on them.
Good luck
Ilske
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I have a glass pendant, but the metal hanger at the top of it always made a
sore patch as it is rough and cheapish metal too. I just carefully painted
the back of it with clear acrylic nail polish. It doesn't show, and it is
certainly much more comfortable to wear.
Perhaps the careful use
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Hello everyone
For bobbin lace jewellery of metallic thread that touches the skin
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Hi Bev:
Somebody has already mentioned backing it - but I'm thinking you might not need
to back the whole thing - maybe if there are some opaque areas of cloth stitch
you could back just those, with the idea that the backing will hold the rest of
the piece away from the skin. Glue on a bit of
Chris Brill-Packard cbpu...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am looking for the idea
of books that a needlelacer might go back to over and over as they try to
learn new stitches and the techniques.-
Hi, Chris
I don't consider this a beginner's how-to book, but my very most favorite
needlelace
Chris
We have been collecting book, video, and online resources for needle lace for
over 2 years on needlelacetalk.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners
In the long verbal section under the group icon are links to book lists, etc.
Lorelei
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I have only taken two workshops in Needlelace. My bobbin lace group
expressed having a few meetings to learn needlelace. Can anyone share ideas
of books that are good reference materials to support doing this? I know
there are many books out there that would be great. I am looking for the
Hi Chris,
I have two very nice books on Needlelace that would meet your requirements!
The newer of the two is Needlelace, Designs and Techniques by Catherine
Barley. Published by Batsford, 2001, ISBN 0 7134 8688 0. However, I am not
sure but it may be OOP.
The second book is needle Lace,
Dear Ilske,
There is a Nancy Evans near Seattle who is a lace dealer (I have purchased
from her). She identifies lace, and teaches needle lace. She was on the
faculty of the International Old Lacers convention last year (and I think
will be on faculty again this year). I have taken
I have responded to Susan privately. lrb
My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members,
please ignore it. I read your emails.
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In the past I, too, have tried to reply to a person's question and received
the message you must have permission (or some such phrase) to get in their in
box. I 'applied' and go not response so did not actually 'answer the
question'. I hope someone else was able to do so. I also get the
Dear Lorri,
In my circumstance, if you send it directly to me, and not through Arachne, it
goes to an online folder, which I read right after my inbox stuff on my
computer, and an automatic message is sent. Mine now reads:
I apologize for this automatic reply to your email.
In order to
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Dear Clay,
Ahah! Let us see if this is the case. I am now
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Well done! (regarding the plain text!)
Now... about the fabric order. If you're getting this for
handerchiefs, a yard will last well into the lifetimes of your heirs!!
I think the pieces I got some time back were 60wide, but that may not
be the case. In any event, you may want to order
Lyn,
I don't think you are really hearing, nor realizing, what is being
said. The message may come through to you whether the writer realizes it or
not, but we ALWAYS get this response from you/Earthlink no matter what, asking
us to fill out our info and it becomes tedium and insulting.
(not through a group).
I have no problems with asking for permission to send an email so far.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, East Sussex, UK
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Subject: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re:
[lace] To Lynn
Dear Vicky,
Yes. There have definitely been perceived problems communicating with Lyn
directly, and with the punctuation marks in her messages.
Avital has been more than fair and diplomatic with suggestions to
alleviate the problems.
I have privately communicated with Lyn from
Dear Spiders,
With only curiosity, I am wondering about how some of our messages are
appearing to each other in light of Clay's and Lyn's recent messages.
Lyn's messages (as well as some others) appear to me (on AOL) with
three diamonds filled with a question mark wherever there should be an
Dear Chris,
There is a tape lace sailing boat in Pamela Nottingham's book - Bobbin Lace
Making (ISBN 0713441321) on page 30.
Andrea
in a very dry Cambridge, UK
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 03:26:56 -0700
From: cbpu...@yahoo.com
Subject: [lace] Question - bobbin lace pattern for sailboat
To: lace
There was also a pattern of a sailboat under a rainbow with was given as a
free internet pattern, via arachne, many years ago now. It was in the
days before we had broadband access and it was big files and took agaes to
download. I was able to use the pattern itself, but a lot of the
Hello Everyone,
Does anyone have a bobbin lace pattern of a sailboat ? I
would greatly
appreciate the source and how to purchase/obtain the pattern.
It will be used
as a raffle item for a local children's hospital next year.
The group doing
the raffle contains several sailing groups that
Hi Chris,
There are a few nice sail boats in Eeva Liisa Kortelahti's book Let's make
bobbin lace, ISBN 951-99922-3-5, reprinted in 1995.
The boats are inserted in a picture... I mean: it is not an isolated boat,
but it also has a sea and a sky, making a square motive.
I hope I have made myself
Having successfully achieved an acceptable needle tatted medalion I picked up
another pattern to try but it threw up a term I dont understand. The start
is Ring 1-1-1-1-1-1 close ring (ok up to here),
It next says use make picot to move from ring to chain. The rest of the
pattern seems
Hello Spiders
I happend to be assembling a blog-post on wire bobbins, part own images,
part links to images. Like Brian I cloud use some help on missing links. May
be French spiders could get the help from mono-lingual lacers for the origin
of the faked top-right image.
Jo
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How about a large diameter drinking straw cut into the length of the next of
the bobbin, slit along one side and slipped over the thread. I have
used this.
Maureen
E Yorks UK
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Just a quick thought... if there's problems getting the metallic thread to
start on the bobbin, try winding cotton thread down the length of the thread
area first, to give the metallic thread something to cling to. There's no rule
that you have to use a bare bobbin.
Alice in Oregon ...
: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Question concerning metalic thread.
Just a quick thought... if there's problems getting the metallic thread to
start on the bobbin, try winding cotton thread down the length of the
thread area first, to give the metallic thread something to cling
Hi Patsy et al,
I always use Geoff Mudge's 'hooky' bobbins for metallic thread, and
sometimes for slippery gimps too. The hooks are perfect to hold the thread,
and it never unwinds - the bobbins are also lovely too - as are all Geoff's
bobbins! His details are in 'Lace', but if anyone
: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:04 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Question concerning metalic thread.
Another solution which is easy to put on and take off when extra thread
is needed is Scunci mini hair clips. The tiniest ones are small enough
to fit nicely over a bobbin neck without
Hi,
It's been ages since I used any metallic thread in bobbin lace making. I have
a project where I will need 4 pairs of bobbins
wound with metallic thread, DMC. How do you wind it so that it doesn't
immediately unwind? I even have the special wooden
bobbins with the hooked ends. I've tried
. I hope that gives you a couple
of ideas to try.
Kim
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Subject: [lace] Question concerning metalic thread.
Hi,
It's been
threading the thread through the hole, and tying a knot. I hope
that gives you a couple of ideas to try.
Kim
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From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
kar...@cox.net
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:36 PM
To: Arachne Lace
Subject: [lace
oops, very sorry everyone about the non-reply with quoted text... I
hit send by accident and was too late to cancel (waaah).
Anyway:
A lace friend had a similar problem. She solved it by sewing little
tubes for the bobbins from stretch knit fabric. These open-ended
socks fit snugly over the
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