Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Humphries
The question for psychologists-on-the-list is, what is better - the disappointment of missing the playoffs, or the devastation of losing in the playoffs? I still think I would rather have us miss out on the playoffs - gives a clear message to Grayson and Bates that the team needs improvement, not

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
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Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread m...@leeds-united.net
I must admit I agree with this however with forest playing scunny it's going to be the way we have to look at it' Sent from my iPhone On 28 Apr 2011, at 08:28, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: The question for psychologists-on-the-list is, what is better - the

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Heath
_ I must admit I agree with this however with forest playing scunny it's going to be the way we have to look at it' The Fat Lady is only just clearing her throat. I recall last year Andy Robinson scored a pivotal goal for Tranmere right at the end of the season to help us get

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread David Bromley
That's the nub of the problem. Can we really believe that whoever is responsible for bringing in new players will actually improve the squad? If we continue with a policy of bringing in players who aren't good enough to get into the first team at places like Derby, Preston and Ipswich etc

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
If I was Hooper, a decent championship player but no more and was offered £10k at Leeds or £8k at Celtic I would have gone to Celtic. It’s a short career and he isn’t going to join Scum or Chelsea so probably would have no silverwear to prove he ever played the game. By going to Celtic he will

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Humphries
Actually what we have a problem with is loan defenders coming in and doing great, then as soon as they are signed up they start playing average. From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net] Sent: 28 April 2011 10:10 To: 'David Bromley'; 'Mark Humphries'; 'Øystein Bjøndal Lund';

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Sean Emmott
I must admit I agree with this however with forest playing scunny it's going to be the way we have to look at it' The other thing is, that if we reach the play offs and don't go up, the financial managers of the club might conclude that the squad is quite strong asnd doesn't need much

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
I think Bates knows this too judging by the interview on Yorkshire Radio in which by the way he has given up on play offs too. From: Sean Emmott [mailto:s...@canofworms.me.uk] Sent: 28 April 2011 10:28 To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Mark Humphries; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re:

[LU] The missing sentiment

2011-04-28 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Hi Our beloved leader and saviour, loved and respected for his forthright, no holds barred, call a spade a shovel, gave his usual interview. Funny no mention of disappointment. Is Ken mellowing? Or can't he be knackered to even pretend? ' Marching on ( the same spot) together. ' Michael

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread barbaraville
On 28/04/2011 09:59, David Bromley wrote: If we continue with a policy of bringing in players who aren't good enough to get into the first team at places like Derby, Preston and Ipswich etc then we shouldn't be surprised if those players aren't good enough to get us promoted. And there is no

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Humphries
But then look at the career history of most of the squads in the championship, loanees apart. Most have average players. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of barbaravi...@gmail.com Sent: 28 April 2011 11:22 To:

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Tim Leslie
David, my thoughts exactly! And especially if you then look at the size of the squad. Unfortunately building a squad is either about an outstanding youth policy (very little evidence) or astute purchases (very littel evidence) I also wonder just how attractive Leeds is to players these

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread barbaraville
On 28/04/2011 11:26, Mark Humphries wrote: But then look at the career history of most of the squads in the championship, loanees apart. Most have average players. Too true Mark, this may be why the clubs they play for are perennial under achievers. For a club to get out of the

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Humphries
I have high hopes for Lees - and I hope Kisnorbo gets back and is the same player as before and we can get him contracted. With those 2 as regulars I think the central defence would be good enough. As for the rest of the squad - I think we are generally good enough actually, we need a few

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread David Brennan
Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:09:37 +0100 From: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net As for rejects from other squads, sometimes it depends on the manager/ player relationship. Blackpool took the cast offs and got promoted and Holloway isn?t a tactical genius, he just pushed the

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Richard Naef
Having read the reports and generally lurked this season, it is obvious we are half a dozen quality players short of romotion material right now and need to replace dead wood with quality. We need: 3 new Defenders 2 New midfielders A proven goalscorer How about Becchio - 20ish goals a season :)

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
Leeds is still a massive draw for any player. We are the biggest club outside the EPL From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Mark Humphries Sent: 28 April 2011 11:27 To: barbaravi...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] KO

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
Harsh to suggest Grayson isn't a Ferguson Wenger Hybrid like he should be! From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of David Brennan Sent: 28 April 2011 11:56 To: 'leedslist@gn.apc.org' Subject: Re: [LU] KO Saturday Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr

[LU] Safe standing petition - reminder

2011-04-28 Thread Rick Duniec
http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/safestanding.php ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread barbaraville
On 28/04/2011 12:16, Matt Anderson wrote: Leeds is still a massive draw for any player. We are the biggest club outside the EPL I think that is a moot point, Matt. I'm not convinced that the rest of the world thinks the same way as we do about that. What I do feel is that players who do

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Malcolm Dunn
What has happened to Alex Bruce? On the few occasions I have seen him play he looked ok, only let down on the odd occasion by his playing partner. Has he not been partnered with the right centre back to get the best out of him? - Original Message - From: Richard Naef

[LU] Campaign to Make Lucas a Freeman

2011-04-28 Thread Rick Duniec
Campaign to make Lucas Radebe a Freeman of the City of Leeds. Here is what those behind this campaign have to say about it.- Like many Leeds United supporters, we've often been frustrated by the lack of recognition given to our heroes. Don Revie and John Charles both richly deserved knighthoods,

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Richard Walker
Completely unproven. He hasn't got 20 goals this season and in a team who have scored a shed load (80+ goals) you would have expected a better return - not even 25% of the team goals.  He has however done well especially when you consider he has trouble kicking a ball in a straight line -

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Humphries
You do yourself no favours Rich. How many goals have other players scored when Becchio was NOT playing, vs when he was? You have not played against him and seem to be a bit shallow when assessing his qualities - one of which has been pointed out MANY times to you - that he makes himself a

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
I think there is a breed of player that would say that about any club and go to the highest bidder but we have seen a few join us for what I presume wasn't all to do with wages. Thinking the 2 flops from Swansea, Paynter, Kasper etc. who all had offers from elsewhere to come to I also

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread John Lee
Hey Betty, you just made me think of my first time in Paris. Got into a cab - Tunisian driver, very little English, he said where from? and pointed at me. I said Leeds, and his face lit up and said Ah, Billy Bremner!   I think there is some kudos with Leeds - mind you, if we're going to recruit

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread John Lee
harsh, but fair David. --- On Thu, 28/4/11, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: From: David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk Subject: Re: [LU] KO Saturday To: 'leedslist@gn.apc.org' leedslist@gn.apc.org Date: Thursday, 28 April, 2011, 11:55 Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread John Lee
so you wouldn't have bought wee Gordie, or even Johnny Giles then   Sometimes, rarely, a cast-off elsewhere can become an enormous influence. Christ look at Harte at Reading! --- On Thu, 28/4/11, barbaravi...@gmail.com barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: From: barbaravi...@gmail.com

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
Yes, they are normally our cast offs going on to great things, we have always been haunted by players we binned out Remember Dan Harding, from defence he has scored and robbed us of vital points a few times From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Every soccer supporter knows of Leeds. In my part of the world whenever someone sees the pennant in the car they know who we are. Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:09 PM, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hey Betty, you just made me

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Nicholas Armit
Why is Pennant in your car? Thought we got rid of him ages ago. From: Dr. Michael Benjamin beden...@gmail.com To: John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [LU] KO

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Richard Naef
even Jamie Oliver is a Leeds fan :) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Mark Tuffey
In the States my experience has been that Leeds are no bigger than Bolton, Villa, Sunderland, etc. We are certainly no where near the size of Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool. The big four have massive followings and their gear can be seen in shops and being worn by people everywhere. In

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
He pinched while he was drunk and crashed it into a lamppost From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Armit Sent: 28 April 2011 16:41 To: Dr. Michael Benjamin; John Lee Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] KO Saturday Why is

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Nicholas Armit
Funnily enough in Lansing, Michigan (a backwater if there ever was one) I saw a kid playing a few years ago with a Leeds top. I got all excited. But yes I get your point. easily Man U is the biggest, followed by Barcelona.  From: Mark Tuffey

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread seanscribe
I have to say that differs from my experience in Washington. When I go to a pub to watch a Leeds game I am rarely the only Leeds supporter there. And unless (back in the Prem days) we were playing ManU, Liverpool or Arsenal, Leeds supporters usually outnumbered the others. The reason why

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
I was in Oman 3 weeks ago at a dinner and I was sat with 12 people on a table mostly brits/ex pats. 3 were Leeds fans and another's father was a Leeds fan. My experience is that generally everyone knows Leeds mainly from Champions League 2000/1 as we got to the semi and annoyingly normally

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Sean Emmott
In all my years going to the footy pubs in Milwaukee I've NEVER, EVER met another Leeds Utd supporter. Maybe they saw you first? :) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To

[LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
RAGING Debates here in the office and the (muppet) press about the big RM vs FCB game last night. Which was more disgraceful: RM playing catenaccio and hacking everything that moves, or FCB's decision to fall/dive at every opportunity to negate it? Mourinho's post match interview was

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread seanscribe
Well, as someone who was at Elland Road for the Champions League game in which Barca, needing at least a point to survive in the competition but losing to an early Bowyer goal, scored an equalizer in the last of four minutes of stoppage time that the ref gave despite there being no

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
I didn't think Real were that bad, they had a couple of spells of trying to score but clearly when you are up against vastly superior teams you have to try and negate it! I thought Barca were shameful, diving, imaginary card waving, ref surrounding, moaning cheats. I would actually want

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Matt Anderson
If memory serves it was more like 7 mins of added time From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of seanscr...@aol.com Sent: 28 April 2011 17:47 To: brendan.mcwilli...@vodafone.com; Leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] RM vs FCB Well, as

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Gillen
Well in 3 weeks I shall also be in Michigan, (Holland - Houghton Lake - Mackinac - Milford and Frankenmuth) and will definitely be wearing my Leeds top at some points - look out for the generously built chap in white :-) -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Heath
On the other handI didn't see last night's game, but I did watch their game at Highbury earlier, and I saw two Barcelona players receiving contact inside the Arse box in the last minute but staying on their feet. Apparently, Mourinho has had 7 players sent off against Barcelona.

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Nicholas Armit
Holland - nice Houghton Lake - no idea Mackinac - nice, but touristy Milford -  eh, why? Frankenmuth - fake German town. Stay clear. From: Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com To: 'Nicholas Armit' arm...@yahoo.com; 'Mark Tuffey' wiscole...@hotmail.com;

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Gillen
Holland - step daughter lives there - chill out and Paddle in lake Michigan Houghton Lake - resort for Michiganders, good fishing and water activities, plus family there (and we shall be retiring to there) Mackinac - going because I've never seen the bridge, nor the island and the straights -

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Nicholas Armit
Jesus, Steve knows Michigan better than I do and i live here! From: Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com To: 'Nicholas Armit' arm...@yahoo.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [LU] KO Saturday Holland - step

Re: [LU] KO Saturday

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Gillen
Been there lots of times that's why. :-) (ever been to Greektown in Detroit?) Step Daughter is taking me to Hooters too on this visit! shame it's likely to be the one in Flint! Food as approved by the US heart association! Drive by shooting as approved by the Sopranos _

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Ed Morrish
We were sat in the Barca fans for that match. We were pretty good at not drawing attention to ourselves we thought - until a Catalonian gentleman to my right asked how much have you English bastard paid this ref?. I also seem to recall that at the final whistle, Dave who had got us tickets

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Jim Moran
I hate everyone but Leeds. Never understood this Oh, I admire X or I like Y nonsense. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org

[LU] non LU AV

2011-04-28 Thread Damian Walsh
I know that the list was neutered a long time ago and LPC sensibilities means we can only openly discuss RW's will he _ wont he homoerotic love-in with our Argy striker. But I actually enjoyed those heady days when the list was just like a conversation in a pub and we could opinionate to our

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-28 Thread Guy Thornton
On 28 Apr 2011 at 18:39, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) wrote: RAGING Debates here in the office and the (muppet) press about the big RM vs FCB game last night. A strange but interesting game, compulsive and interesting in a funny sort of way Sort of cross between a prize

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Gillen
Yeah, I already voted, both for the local council and for the AV vote (I get a postal vote) Yes I do care and yes you should care Me? I voted yes -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: 28 April 2011

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-28 Thread Simon Hart
It appears all the politicians are against it, which tells me it must be a good thing. Si. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: 28 April 2011 23:25 To: leedslist Subject: [LU] non LU AV I know that