Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Thanks Bill just ordered one. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 1:14 AM wrote: > Its called an Xtreme Xtension > > http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm > > > > and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench > > I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys > > Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled > > Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work > > Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills > > > > https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129 > > > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies > and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was > an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a > Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > wrote: > > Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let > you know. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > > I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for > running from one machine to the other. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental > Mills wrote: > > If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a > purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would > consider trading. > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Good luck with that but you never know > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy > tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. > > Thanks for all the help guys. > > I’ll show the finish part when complete. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike > (Liltwisted) > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it > on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on > both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at > motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" > motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy > and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft > and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will > allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. > > Mike > OK > > On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, '
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
I would recommend this one Bill just mentioned over the muscle chuck. I had some challenges with them getting them to balance out well. I have about 4 of the "Extremes" and work great. And yes Welcome Rick. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:14 AM wrote: > Its called an Xtreme Xtension > > http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm > > > > and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench > > I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys > > Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled > > Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work > > Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills > > > > https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129 > > > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies > and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was > an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a > Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > wrote: > > Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let > you know. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > > I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for > running from one machine to the other. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental > Mills wrote: > > If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a > purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would > consider trading. > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Good luck with that but you never know > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy > tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. > > Thanks for all the help guys. > > I’ll show the finish part when complete. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike > (Liltwisted) > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it > on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on > both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at > motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" > motor shaft. Then I ord
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Its called an Xtreme Xtension http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129 Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Rick Boeing Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you know. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running from one machine to the other. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading. Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: Good luck with that but you never know Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. Thanks for all the help guys. I’ll show the finish part when complete. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote: Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. Mike OK On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carb
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let > you know. > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for > running from one machine to the other. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental > Mills wrote: > >> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a >> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would >> consider trading. >> Thanks >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> Good luck with that but you never know >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy >> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. >> >> Thanks for all the help guys. >> >> I’ll show the finish part when complete. >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike >> (Liltwisted) >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. >> >> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: >> >> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < >> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: >> >> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" >> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it >> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on >> both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at >> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" >> motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy >> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft >> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will >> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. >> >> Mike >> OK >> >> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: >> >> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >> >> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go >> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors >> could you send pics? >> >> Thanks >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to si
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Sounds good Denson Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let > you know. > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for > running from one machine to the other. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental > Mills wrote: > >> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a >> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would >> consider trading. >> Thanks >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> Good luck with that but you never know >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy >> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. >> >> Thanks for all the help guys. >> >> I’ll show the finish part when complete. >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike >> (Liltwisted) >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. >> >> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: >> >> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < >> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: >> >> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" >> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it >> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on >> both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at >> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" >> motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy >> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft >> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will >> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. >> >> Mike >> OK >> >> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: >> >> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >> >> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go >> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors >> could you send pics? >> >> Thanks >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an >> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as >> >> Part of the trade. >> >> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popula
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you know. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running > from one machine to the other. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> wrote: >> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase >> or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading. >> Thanks >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Good luck with that but you never know >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM >>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >>> >>> >>> >>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy >>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. >>> >>> Thanks for all the help guys. >>> >>> I’ll show the finish part when complete. >>> >>> Denson >>> >>> Sent from Denson's iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>> On Behalf Of Okla Mike >>> (Liltwisted) >>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM >>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >>> >>> >>> >>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. >>> >>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: >>> >>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Timothy J. Ziegler >>> >>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >>> >>> 14171 160th Ave. >>> >>> Foreston MN 56330 >>> >>> >>> >>> 320-294-5798 shop >>> >>> 320-630-2243 cell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) >>> wrote: >>> >>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" >>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it >>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on >>> both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at >>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" >>> motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy >>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft >>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will >>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. >>> >>> Mike >>> OK >>> >>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >>> >>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from >>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could >>> you send pics? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Denson >>> >>> Sent from Denson's iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to si
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running from one machine to the other. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a > purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would > consider trading. > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Good luck with that but you never know > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy > tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. > > Thanks for all the help guys. > > I’ll show the finish part when complete. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike > (Liltwisted) > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it > on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on > both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at > motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" > motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy > and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft > and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will > allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. > > Mike > OK > > On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamenta
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If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading. Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > Good luck with that but you never know > > Bill > > From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw > and see if they have one they will sell me. > Thanks for all the help guys. > I’ll show the finish part when complete. > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? > https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N > > Bill > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) > wrote: > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it on > the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both > machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor > accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. > Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it > onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was > ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will allow you to use > either a spur or drive dogs. > > Mike > OK > > On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from > LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could > you send pics? > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice > and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > Part of the trade. > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have > a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > Bill > > > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
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Good luck with that but you never know Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. Thanks for all the help guys. I’ll show the finish part when complete. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote: Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. Mike OK On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill
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I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me. Thanks for all the help guys. I’ll show the finish part when complete. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? > https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N > > Bill > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) > wrote: > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it on > the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both > machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor > accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. > Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it > onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was > ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will allow you to use > either a spur or drive dogs. > > Mike > OK > > On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from > LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could > you send pics? > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice > and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > Part of the trade. > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have > a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > Bill > > > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good > as any insert > Because they are an insert. > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them > quite good. > > Bill > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Well in
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Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ? https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted) Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. Mike OK On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetool
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of course not lol. Don't want to make it easy on ya Mike. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:49 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post. > On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > >> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" >> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it >> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on >> both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at >> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" >> motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy >> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft >> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will >> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. >> >> Mike >> OK >> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: >> >> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go >> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors >> could you send pics? >> Thanks >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an >> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as >> >> Part of the trade. >> >> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were >> no where near the amount of different shapes >> >> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling >> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then >> >> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these >> years later. insert tools were expensive back then >> >> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t >> become popular in wood turning tools today >> >> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can >> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. >> >> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need >> specialised grinding and milling machines for that. >> >> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> >> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler >> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol >> >> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have >> good quality control for sure. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: >> >> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in >> the metal trade >> >> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom >> shape tool >> >> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as >> good as any insert >> >> Because they are an insert. >> >> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 >> >> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality >> inserts and put in it >> >> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find >> them quite good. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >&
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Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft. What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" > adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock. I installed it > on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on > both machines. If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at > motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" > motor shaft. Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy > and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft. I trimmed off the excess shaft > and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS. These two set-ups will > allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs. > > Mike > OK > On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > >
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that's a great start, too. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:35 PM wrote: > Something like this > https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of * > bulke...@mmnet.com.au > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe > > > > A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft with 4 even holes > drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub > > Would be where I would start. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. > > You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState > exclusive for the shopsmith. > > > > *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html > <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>* > > > > then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a > #2 morse taper down to > > 1/2 and chuck it up > > Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: > > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote:
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hey now there you go coming up with solutions for our problems again. Wow Bill "Johnny on the spot" Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:32 PM wrote: > If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe > > > > A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft with 4 even holes > drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub > > Would be where I would start. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. > > You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState > exclusive for the shopsmith. > > > > *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html > <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>* > > > > then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a > #2 morse taper down to > > 1/2 and chuck it up > > Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: > > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing he
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Yes he will Bill but not till late tonight when he gets off work. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM wrote: > I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he > will jump in and answer that > > Soon > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed o
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Don't be so hard on yourself Bill. You're a man with a wealth of knowledge and skill. Don't you forget it lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:02 PM wrote: > Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling > > Around in a shed lol > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop, > and face grind carbide. > > I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router > bits. > > Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM wrote: > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > >
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft with 4 even holes drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub Would be where I would start. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState exclusive for the shopsmith. https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 morse taper down to 1/2 and chuck it up Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On B
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft with 4 even holes drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub Would be where I would start. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState exclusive for the shopsmith. https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 morse taper down to 1/2 and chuck it up Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change o
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he will jump in and answer that Soon Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googleg
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Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling Around in a shed lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop, and face grind carbide. I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits. Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing
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Yup and I am pretty sure Curt will be your man. I thought he showed a pic of one a while back. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:08 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to > LOM but I can’t remember who. > Thanks > Denson > > > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: > >> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop >> smith >> >> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock >> >> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood >> lathe >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >> >> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go >> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors >> could you send pics? >> >> Thanks >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an >> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as >> >> Part of the trade. >> >> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were >> no where near the amount of different shapes >> >> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling >> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then >> >> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these >> years later. insert tools were expensive back then >> >> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t >> become popular in wood turning tools today >> >> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can >> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. >> >> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need >> specialised grinding and milling machines for that. >> >> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler >> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM >> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol >> >> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have >> good quality control for sure. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: >> >> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in >> the metal trade >> >> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom >> shape tool >> >> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as >> good as any insert >> >> Because they are an insert. >> >> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 >> >> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality >> inserts and put in it >> >> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find >> them quite good. >> >> >> >> Bill &g
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Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to LOM but I can’t remember who. Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > > oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: >> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith >> >> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock >> >> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood >> lathe >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. >> >> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from >> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could >> you send pics? >> >> Thanks >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: >> >> >> >> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice >> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as >> >> Part of the trade. >> >> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no >> where near the amount of different shapes >> >> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used >> inserts wasn’t the thing much then >> >> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these >> years later. insert tools were expensive back then >> >> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t >> become popular in wood turning tools today >> >> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can >> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. >> >> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised >> grinding and milling machines for that. >> >> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler >> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol >> >> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good >> quality control for sure. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: >> >> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the >> metal trade >> >> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom >> shape tool >> >> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good >> as any insert >> >> Because they are an insert. >> >> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 >> >> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality >> inserts and put in it >> >> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them >> quite good. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler >> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 >> >> >> >> Well in my opinion and this
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oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798
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No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState exclusive for the shopsmith. *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>* then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 morse taper down to 1/2 and chuck it up Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM wrote: > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard
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Hey Denson, I'm sure someone should have some pix. I have an adapter for my big lathe and also an adapter for the shopsmith but is not set up yet to do the LOM dogs . Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:59 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you
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Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT. Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe > > Bill > > From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from > LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could > you send pics? > Thanks > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice > and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > Part of the trade. > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have > a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > Bill > > > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good > as any insert > Because they are an insert. > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them > quite good. > > Bill > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > not as good as other brands. See link: > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > wrote: > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler > wrote: > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITO
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Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop, and face grind carbide. I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits. Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM wrote: > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3Ii
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Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/re
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Awesome Bill! Thanks for all of the time and effort to put these together!Steve JacobsBrighton, TNSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics?ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade.Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapesThere is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back thenSo making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools todayA nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that.Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lolI agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape toolI use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert.Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on butat least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide isnot as good as other brands. See link:https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Z
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Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics? Thanks Denson Sent from Denson's iPhone > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice > and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > Part of the trade. > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have > a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > Bill > > > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good > as any insert > Because they are an insert. > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them > quite good. > > Bill > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > not as good as other brands. See link: > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > wrote: > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler > wrote: > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > wrote: > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there > CNC Machines. > But do you f
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I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade. Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapes There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back then So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools today A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that. Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/
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Perfect and great information. I'll have to get my self some nice blanks and test the waters again. I have lots of items to get done before winter sets in. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:26 PM wrote: > I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a > hollow > > Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine > strait grain > > Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2 > inch dia blank > > Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and > less prone > > To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral > > Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut > spiral is the best bit > > Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit. > > And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two > rulers > > Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the > other I forgot > > To show that in the video. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation > to want to try that > > again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches. > I even still have that > > piece around for a casual reminder lol. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM wrote: > > Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too > > Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good &
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Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM wrote: > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a hollow Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine strait grain Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2 inch dia blank Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and less prone To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut spiral is the best bit Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit. And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two rulers Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the other I forgot To show that in the video. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation to want to try that again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches. I even still have that piece around for a casual reminder lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my
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I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape tool I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert. Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
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Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation to want to try that again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches. I even still have that piece around for a casual reminder lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM wrote: > Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too > > Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.
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yup Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM wrote: > Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too > > Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to t
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yup Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:00 PM wrote: > Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to > pay for sharpening > > Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the > wood > > Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
yup and check out the freud one. big price diff. uff Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:51 PM wrote: > Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine > lol > > We are so expensive here > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gma
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
exactly, But I'm pretty impressed and have found and posted a link to Freud's too. Lot more money but great bit too. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:42 PM wrote: > Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol > > But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit > > Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is > > What it’s made for > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM wrote: > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mill
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is not as good as other brands. See link: https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received t
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Thank you. C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:00:14 PM EDT, wrote: Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay for sharpening Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1098395364.1673175.1665966298887%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this
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Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay for sharpening Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https:
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Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine lol We are so expensive here Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1 <https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10> =3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view
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Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is What it’s made for Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLG%2BTZGqUfCPLtmnVTfS4cYU87DTskcmJMS%2BOgkzRJ70-Q%40mail.gmail.com <h
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I didn’t say I paid that for it in fact I paid a great deal less it was a show special the last one another Opposition company was selling because they couldn’t get tips for it Which I easily got from the company in the link I sent you not Sure what was the go there and I didn’t ask it was under $100 I couldn’t get my wallet out fast enough lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:25 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines. But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on
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I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1098395364.1673175.1665966298887%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLG6f-t%3DYzeGam17hsrE1vuXYDP%2BDCb6cgRDRiygR%3DY8Zw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin
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https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, > wrote: > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mil
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Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM wrote: > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLG%2BTZGqUfCPLtmnVTfS4cYU87DTskcmJMS%2BOgkzRJ70-Q%40mail.gmail.com.
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I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, wrote: https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1098395364.1673175.1665966298887%40mail.yahoo.com.
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d8e1bd%2498b61d10%24ca225730%24%40mmnet.com.au.
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM wrote: > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGM7Vd38U8ULMYwwnpRrSEZKuWZ6C-mF62WC5Xd3v5ycg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Thank you Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003601d8e1b6%243c23db70%24b46b9250%24%40mmnet.com.au.
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Yeah but I'd rather it be slightly long than miss details. I'm excited to watch it and I think I will watch it this evening. I have been plumbing today. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Very nice work there Bill. > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > Thank you. > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au < > bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLE6_35qfdxOxP%3DtB3rHxhxibPCD%2BKexVwdYF%2BFWQ9%2BaKA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Looks good On Sunday, October 16, 2022, wrote: > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au < > bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0% > 24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909. > 1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000a01d8e1a1%246b00fa00% > 244102ee00%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000a01d8e1a1%246b00fa00%244102ee00%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CABP3DRFEH6BOn3egySnJ8sAsk1g%3D19gUDGP_rGmJN9P9qMypNw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all the steps in For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just described what to do Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Very nice work there Bill. The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000a01d8e1a1%246b00fa00%244102ee00%24%40mmnet.com.au.
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Very nice work there Bill.The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. Thank you. C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2121150943.1629909.1665948730347%40mail.yahoo.com.
Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
Awesome can't wait to get home and watch it Bill. Tim On Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 12:11 AM wrote: > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. But I got there in the end > > > > Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLF9F%3DFnRqadnL0a-QZkoNT5FjTHM-ns08CgxA-8qjGdtQ%40mail.gmail.com.
ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or follow it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was almost stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit it out of the finished video. But I got there in the end Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01d8e11d%24a7fa9cb0%24f7efd610%24%40mmnet.com.au.
Re: ornamental milling
thanks guys, Arkady it was a magnate bit i'm not sure what the number of it though On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 10:39 AM Chainlink wrote: > Wow, that's so impressive! Great work! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: ornamental milling
Very beautiful !!! The buttons were made with Magnate #352 bit? Arkady from Ukraine. пт, 21 дек. 2018 г. в 07:31, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>: > Again! Awesome work ! > > Thank you. > > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, December 20, 2018, 8:27:52 AM EST, Ccm Ccm < > ccmdesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > thank you all > curt, the way i made the split turnings i left the pieces long so when i > was done turning i still had part of the square > to reference to and just cut them in half then cut the ends off to the > final dimension those are buttons i'll try to get a > picture of them, the vanities are out on the job site so it may be a few > weeks till i get there to get pictures, the burl is walnut > i think it was 20 reeds > thanks again > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > *Awesome work!* > > Any tricks used to make those split turnings? How many flutes are they? > and what kind of burl is that ? > Can we see a close up on those ball ends on your turnings ? to me it looks > like buttons? > > Very Nice work... > > C.A.G. > On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 9:45:17 AM EST, Ccm Ccm < > ccmdesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent > milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's > a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the > lathe > then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: ornamental milling
thank you all curt, the way i made the split turnings i left the pieces long so when i was done turning i still had part of the square to reference to and just cut them in half then cut the ends off to the final dimension those are buttons i'll try to get a picture of them, the vanities are out on the job site so it may be a few weeks till i get there to get pictures, the burl is walnut i think it was 20 reeds thanks again On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *Awesome work!* > > Any tricks used to make those split turnings? How many flutes are they? > and what kind of burl is that ? > Can we see a close up on those ball ends on your turnings ? to me it looks > like buttons? > > Very Nice work... > > C.A.G. > On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 9:45:17 AM EST, Ccm Ccm < > ccmdesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent > milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's > a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the > lathe > then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: ornamental milling
Magnificent job truly some of the most beautiful work I’ve seen done with the help of the legacy Great work Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ccm Ccm Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2018 1:45 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: ornamental milling Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the lathe then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> www.avg.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: ornamental milling
Nice work. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:45 AM Ccm Ccm wrote: > Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent > milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's > a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the > lathe > then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: ornamental milling
Three cheers for some exemplary work !!!Tom D On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 7:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *Awesome work!* > > Any tricks used to make those split turnings? How many flutes are they? > and what kind of burl is that ? > Can we see a close up on those ball ends on your turnings ? to me it looks > like buttons? > > Very Nice work... > > C.A.G. > On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 9:45:17 AM EST, Ccm Ccm < > ccmdesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent > milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's > a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the > lathe > then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: ornamental milling
Awesome work! Any tricks used to make those split turnings? How many flutes are they? and what kind of burl is that ?Can we see a close up on those ball ends on your turnings ? to me it looks like buttons? Very Nice work... C.A.G.On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 9:45:17 AM EST, Ccm Ccm wrote: Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recentmilling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the lathethen did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: ornamental milling
Wow, that is beautiful. Nice work! On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 7:45 AM Ccm Ccm wrote: > Hi Everyone, here are a couple of pictures of some of my recent > milling projects. this is one of a matching set of bow front vanities it's > a combination of walnut and walnut burl. i turned all the parts on the > lathe > then did all the reeding and buttons on the legacy mill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.