subject:"Re\: ornamental milling"

Its called an Xtreme Xtension 

http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm

 

and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench

I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys 

Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled

Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work

Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills

 

https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies and in 
the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was an extension 
type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a Allen wrench. Is 
this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you 
know.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running 
from one machine to the other. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or 
trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Good luck with that but you never know

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I’ll show the finish part when complete.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carb

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Rick Boeing

Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies
and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was
an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a
Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
>> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
>> consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>
>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
>> (Liltwisted)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to si

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Sounds good Denson

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
>> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
>> consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>
>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
>> (Liltwisted)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the trade.
>>
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popula

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you 
know.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running 
> from one machine to the other. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase 
>> or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy 
>>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>> 
>>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
>>> (Liltwisted)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
>>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it 
>>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on 
>>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at 
>>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" 
>>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy 
>>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft 
>>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will 
>>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>> 
>>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>>> you send pics?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to si

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running
from one machine to the other.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
> consider trading.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Good luck with that but you never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
>
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
> (Liltwisted)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>
> Mike
> OK
>
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> 
>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamenta

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or 
trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
Thanks
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Good luck with that but you never know
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
> and see if they have one they will sell me.
> Thanks for all the help guys.
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Good luck with that but you never know

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I’ll show the finish part when complete.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I’ll show the finish part when complete.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetool

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

of course not lol. Don't want to make it easy on ya Mike.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:49 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the trade.
>>
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were
>> no where near the amount of different shapes
>>
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling
>> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>>
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>>
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>>
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>>
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need
>> specialised grinding and milling machines for that.
>>
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> 
>>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>>
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have
>> good quality control for sure.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in
>> the metal trade
>>
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
>> shape tool
>>
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
>> good as any insert
>>
>> Because they are an insert.
>>
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>>
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
>> inserts and put in it
>>
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
>> them quite good.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>&

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>
> Mike
> OK
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> 
>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

that's a great start, too.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:35 PM  wrote:

> Something like this
> https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe
>
>
>
> A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes
> drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub
>
> Would be where I would start.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
>
> You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
> exclusive for the shopsmith.
>
>
>
> *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
> <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*
>
>
>
> then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
> #2 morse taper down to
>
> 1/2 and chuck it up
>
> Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

hey now there you go coming up with solutions for our problems again. Wow
Bill "Johnny on the spot"
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:32 PM  wrote:

> If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe
>
>
>
> A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes
> drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub
>
> Would be where I would start.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
>
> You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
> exclusive for the shopsmith.
>
>
>
> *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
> <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*
>
>
>
> then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
> #2 morse taper down to
>
> 1/2 and chuck it up
>
> Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing he

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Yes he will Bill but not till late tonight when he gets off work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM  wrote:

> I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he
> will jump in and answer that
>
> Soon
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed o

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Don't be so hard on yourself Bill. You're a man with a wealth of
knowledge and skill. Don't you forget it lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:02 PM  wrote:

> Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling
>
> Around in a shed lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop,
> and face grind carbide.
>
> I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router
> bits.
>
> Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM  wrote:
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
>

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Something like this 
https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe 

 

A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes drilled in 
its face that fit the legacy drive hub 

Would be where I would start.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. 

You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState 
exclusive for the shopsmith.

 

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

 

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 
morse taper down to 

1/2 and chuck it up

Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On B

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe 

 

A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes drilled in 
its face that fit the legacy drive hub 

Would be where I would start.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. 

You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState 
exclusive for the shopsmith.

 

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

 

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 
morse taper down to 

1/2 and chuck it up

Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change o

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he will 
jump in and answer that 

Soon

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googleg

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling

Around in a shed lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop, and 
face grind carbide. 

I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits. 

Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yup and I am pretty sure Curt will be your man. I thought he showed a pic
of one a while back.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:08 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to
> LOM but I can’t remember who.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
>
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
>> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop
>> smith
>>
>> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>>
>> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
>> lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the trade.
>>
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were
>> no where near the amount of different shapes
>>
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling
>> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>>
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>>
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>>
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>>
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need
>> specialised grinding and milling machines for that.
>>
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>>
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have
>> good quality control for sure.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in
>> the metal trade
>>
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
>> shape tool
>>
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
>> good as any insert
>>
>> Because they are an insert.
>>
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>>
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
>> inserts and put in it
>>
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
>> them quite good.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
&g

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to LOM 
but I can’t remember who.
Thanks
Denson



Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>> 
>> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>> 
>> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood 
>> lathe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>> 
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>> you send pics?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
>> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>> 
>> Part of the trade.
>> 
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
>> where near the amount of different shapes
>> 
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
>> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>> 
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>> 
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>> 
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can 
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>> 
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
>> grinding and milling machines for that.
>> 
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>> 
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
>> quality control for sure. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
>> metal trade
>> 
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
>> shape tool
>> 
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
>> as any insert
>> 
>> Because they are an insert.
>> 
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>> 
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
>> inserts and put in it
>> 
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
>> quite good.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well in my opinion and this

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:

> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
exclusive for the shopsmith.

*https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
<https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
#2 morse taper down to
1/2 and chuck it up
Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:

> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey Denson,

I'm sure someone should have some pix. I have an adapter for my big lathe
and also an adapter for
the shopsmith but is not set up yet to do the LOM dogs .

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:59 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITO

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop,
and face grind carbide.
I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits.
Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM  wrote:

> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3Ii

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/re

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Steven Jacobs

Awesome Bill! Thanks for all of the time and effort to put these together!Steve JacobsBrighton, TNSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics?ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade.Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapesThere is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back thenSo making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools todayA nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that.Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lolI agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape toolI use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert.Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on butat least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide isnot as good as other brands.  See link:https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:   https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?  C.A.G.   On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Z

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?
Thanks
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>  
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>  
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there 
> CNC Machines.
> But do you f

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Perfect and great information. I'll have to get my self some nice blanks
and test the waters
again. I have lots of items to get done before winter sets in.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:26 PM  wrote:

> I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a
> hollow
>
> Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine
> strait grain
>
> Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2
> inch dia blank
>
> Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and
> less prone
>
> To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral
>
> Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut
> spiral is the best bit
>
> Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit.
>
> And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two
> rulers
>
> Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the
> other I forgot
>
> To show that in the video.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation
> to want to try that
>
> again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches.
> I even still have that
>
> piece around for a casual reminder lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
&

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
quality control for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:

> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a hollow

Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine 
strait grain

Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2 inch 
dia blank

Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and less 
prone

To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral 

Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut spiral 
is the best bit

Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit.

And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two rulers 

Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the 
other I forgot

To show that in the video.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation to 
want to try that 

again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches. I 
even still have that

piece around for a casual reminder lol.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too

Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation
to want to try that
again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches.
I even still have that
piece around for a casual reminder lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:

> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

yup
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:

> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

yup
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:00 PM  wrote:

> Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to
> pay for sharpening
>
> Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the
> wood
>
> Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
> --
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

yup and check out the freud one. big price diff. uff
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:51 PM  wrote:

> Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine
> lol
>
> We are so expensive here
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

exactly, But I'm pretty impressed and have found and posted a link to
Freud's too.
Lot more money but great bit too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:42 PM  wrote:

> Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol
>
> But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit
>
> Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is
>
> What it’s made for
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM  wrote:
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
not as good as other brands.  See link:
https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
everyday router bits being freud.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too

Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:00:14 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay 
for sharpening

Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood

Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins

  

Bill

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

  

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


  

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

  

C.A.G.

  

  

  

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay 
for sharpening

Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood

Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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<https:

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine lol

We are so expensive here

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10>
 
=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol

But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit 

Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is

What it’s made for

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I didn’t say I paid that for it in fact I paid a great deal less it was a show 
special the last one another

Opposition company was selling because they couldn’t get tips for it

Which I easily got from the company in the link I sent you not

Sure what was the go there and I didn’t ask it was under $100 I couldn’t get my 
wallet out fast enough lol

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do 
you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better 
then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think?
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10
They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 
I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 
C.A.G.


On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

  

this

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.=1665969834=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96=8-10

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM  wrote:

> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 
I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 
C.A.G.


On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

  

this

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:

> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

Yeah but I'd rather it be slightly long than miss details.
I'm excited to watch it and I think I will watch it this evening.
I have been plumbing today.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very nice work there Bill.
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
> Thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Ccm Ccm

Looks good

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:

> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Very nice work there Bill.The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered
every step.
Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au
wrote:

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5