Sherry and Mike,
Mike, thanks for your reply, but the files already passed though Legacy
versions prior to 7 with no indication of LDS content, so likely no tools re.
such. I do have Win 2k and XP CDs, but files go back to 98 and 95 days, and I
have no equipment with compatible drivers etc.
Thanks, Sherry, for the ordinance guidance, and I had not thought of exporting
in native mode, which avoids side effects from gedcom use. That should work
fine. If AFN numbers are stripped, that's not a big issue, and I'll keep backup
with them. Thanks also, Brian, for alerting me to that.
kb
We use 7.5 De Luxe and Win 7. I recently needed files from 8 to 15 years back,
finding some apparently archived in 2007 in Legacy native format, versions 5 or
6. Several appeared to convert successfully to 7.5, navigation OK to material
of interest, but when I ran file repair prior to
Charani,
DNA certainly can be infallible evidence. You've forgotten that it can be
exclusionary. In my case, I spent 5 years or more studying the Brittons of
Bitton to find a link to my brick wall in the adjacent parish of Kelston. One
glance at the first 16 STR markers that I received, and I
I am another who uses notes rather than sources. For me, Legacy is primarily a
research aid, secondarily a family history collection/archive, lastly and only
occasionally, a formal genealogy.
In reverse order, formal sourcing took a hit years back when a particular style
was promoted, then a
Jessica,
If what you need is just linked names, you can probably parse a gedcom and
extract it with little programming. If you want to carry more information
and/or use Legacy's report facilities, it's probably simplest to do it by hand.
Clear a tag and set up your daughter as focus. Ctrl
Perhaps I phrased poorly because I was heading to the use of atDNA as aid or
key to solving classic genealogical problems, unquestionably within the
province of Legacy. No atDNA tests in the list and several different types of
DNA tests is only two, yDNA STR and mtDNA. For at least our 7.5
Events might work well for me too, but I'd appreciate suggestions on other
Legacy features which might help - or cautions about traps which I could run
into. Basically, I'm using the program for two things. My children aren't much
into genealogy and family history, so I'm building a record for
It seems a little premature to reject this question out of hand. Interesting
material about relatives for relatives may not be strict genealogy, but many of
us use Legacy as family historian's tool. How is it best to use the program to
pass things forward, or to structure a blog to provide
Jane,
I use Legacy primarily as a research tool, so I'm comfortable with things which
clash with good genealogy practice and may require care with anything to be
shared. Very commonly, I resort to the extensive and versatile Placeholder
family.
One example is a problem with my Pratts, where
Scott,
What benefit you get from Dragon will depend on more than word recognition
accuracy. There's also how you work, the material, program input and editing
for your purpose. Back 30 odd years, I used a service to transcribe field notes
and preliminary report drafts from tapes. Later, I
GRO Quarter Dates are not dates but actually publication references.
Properly, for Legacy to convert them to dates, Legacy should do so by rendering
them in the form before (quarter end date). All that is actually known is
that the event took place prior to the quarter's end.
Note that not
One caution: About a decade back, I used Google Maps in satellite mode to
locate my place of birth, positioning the cursor to the former location of the
bed that I was born in. Two or three years later, I used the reference to look
back at the village, finding that the house had been
DNA results are important for genealogy research already, as noted earlier in
this thread, but direct inclusion in Legacy is a can of worms for more reasons
than it is appropriate to discuss in detail here. Short form: Some DNA data
files are enormous rather than huge, tests vary greatly,
I hope changes to the old ones includes updating the present DNA material as
well as upgrading to recognise recent advances.
The list of those involved in testing looks tired. Under Tests Available,
good luck with DNAH and Genetree. The former went belly up in 2011, public
database suppressed
Ball Grid Array. Many thousands of them on a microchip, each specific to a
particular feature which is, or may be, found in the testee's chromosomes.
Principally pioneered by 23andMe, the scheme gives a broadside snapshot which
allows analysis to identify chosen specifics, which can include
Brian (support)
...219 installed over the old version, reported success, then attempted to open
Legacy, failed in the same manner with details identical to previous except for
Timestamps and Additional Information. I followed the option: If this
program didn't install correctly, try
On invoking Legacy via a desktop link, the Millenia label appears, then the
first Legacy screen with no data, that grays and an O.S. sourced advisory is
slipped under the label, permitting program dismissal and carrying problem
detail:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
I posted here because Legacy, as far as I can tell, is the only program on the
machine which is having a problem, the driver may be specific to the hardware,
and it has apparently worked perfectly with this same version of Legacy for
more than a year. On balance, it's more likely that a
I just tried the URL given by the OP. The website looked credible and had
places to enter given and surname for a search. I entered a given name and got
a drop down list below the surname box. That was a bit alarming, as the list
appeared mined from my machine, likely from Firefox. Since I'm
Alan,
I also just document reasoning in research notes. Legacy is excellent for
organising classical genealogy material, but it's limited or poor as a research
tool or record. It has little support for anything less than fact, and that
bites not only subsequent descendants, but also the
Bill,
Another option is to import the dubious file into a new, empty Legacy file,
master sourcing all data to the compiler's information and forcing RINs to a
number range well outside anything in your existing file and where it might
grow to, e.g. commencing at 5,000 or above. Then make a
The Q format is not does not give the date of a vital event; it gives the group
identification of a record. Properly, it should be used as a source, not a
date. Since it gives the time period the event was recorded, the best date
approximation is about the first month of the Q period. All Q
Ron,
I did not indicate a range beyond pointing out that it is always more than a
quarter and may not be accurate to the year. My point was that the Q format is
intrinsically not an event date, and using it as such produces errors, as when
translated to nFS data. I then derived the best date
Thanks, Michele, Bob and Jan for thinking about this. My main concern is
unanticipated side effects. Placeholders like Mr. or Firstwife work well for
the original compiler, who has Legacy and external files, but wider
distribution and less capable software must be anticipated. Legacy too
Thanks David, I'd never have thought that Legacy would accept just a question
mark in a field and propagate it into charts and GEDCOMS. That's the best
scheme yet for my private and other Legacy users, but it might not propagate
quietly to programs like PAF and database trees in LDS or
Thanks Russ, but what actually happens with export to a GEDCOM? For the usage I
quoted, the phantom lies in the direct male line. If Legacy simply deletes the
individual, that breaks the continuity of the line. If Legacy just suppresses
the content of the name fields, then the line inherits the
One of my lines has a Richard Pratt with a spouse Richord, per IGI and other
sources. Her PCC Will gives the true tale. She describes herself as Richard
Pratt, widow, and her daughters by surname, e.g. my daughter Osmond. A
collateral Pratt line was then nationally famous, Lords Chief
Some obscure printing problems with Legacy may reflect a design quirk. It
appears that, when it loads, Legacy looks at whatever is the default printer
and adopts what it finds as its printing environment. Preview of a report then
shows how it will appear - with those settings and via that
Marriage Allegations were involved whenever a marriage was by Bishop's Licence,
recorded in the bishop's records, hence that's a place to look when a parish
register indicates a marriage other than by Banns, or because no marriage
record can be found in the couple's parish registers. It's
James
Legacy is very good, perhaps unmatched, to organize material for reports,
document fact related to known data (sources etc.), and it helps discipline
users towards better scholarship. I wouldn't say it's useless, but it's
certainly been comparatively poor support for doing research, as
James,
You might want to look at Burke's General Armory on Google Books, and visit
the website of the College of Arms. www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/
From the perspective of what you can do with Legacy, this deserves more
general treatment than the thread title implies. Relatively few are
Brian,
I had assumed a mechanism of that kind, but more seems involved. As you have
put it, outcomes have to be or tend to even and quantized to powers of two. My
last major cleanup had numbers to the low/mid 60s by estimation, which did seem
clustered to roughly approximate by keystrokes
Hi Richard
Prior experience had this problem associated with duplication of marriage
pairs, up to 60 times for one marriage (same RINs), but the file just sent to
Dennis has both one such duplication with no traversal problem and the problem
with no duplication. I doubt it's a Legacy bug
This gets curiouser and curiouser.
From Dennis' last post, it appears that he studied this at the database level,
finding multiple duplication of spouses at the problem point. Viewed from the
Family screen in our Legacy 6, the husband and wife icons carry a 1 and
clicking them brings the
My Bad. I missed that Dennis specified parental icon. Previous experience
had been with associated spouse duplications and two cases occur very close to
the root of the tree, so I guess I got fixated on the wrong icon when I hit the
traversal problem later. I was also wrong about Legacy
I have another Intellimerge to do, and one file has at least one pointer
problem. It manifests as a family file traversible only in one direction, i.e.
in this instance traversal upstream deadheads unexpectedly, while traversal
downstream from the eldest ancestor completes correctly. From
Sherry,
You may be unfamiliar with DVD-RAM. It looks like a DVD but appears like a
slow, internal hard disk to Windows. In principle it can be formatted to pretty
much any file system, but UDF is usual - for good reason. XP used FAT32
natively and UDF with second party software, Vista either
Can Legacy be run from a DVD-RAM?
kb
- Original Message -
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:01:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy run on Disk
No. Legacy must be installed on your computer and the
Thanks Brian. Dunno how Virtualbox deals with the Registry question - it may
not be an issue. If it is, the guest OS isn't installed, just loaded as an
image, so there shouldn't be significant time or irritation in keeping two or
more copies.
kb
- Original Message -
From:
Hi and thanks to Mark, Laird and Bill
By one of those weird coincidences, my dual boot machine died yesterday, so
this is no longer academic. After studying all suggestions, I'm going to
classify Whine with Windoze and go with Virtualbox 4.0. Since that was only
released 12/22, the fine
First, I asked a question last Spring and got promptly taken out for a couple
of months by a lightning strike, so I didn't see any answers. Belated thanks
though, to anyone who did.
I also have a cross platform question. I normally run two computers, an early
Windows, for backward hardware
Anyone know how Media Backup works? Does it back up the media, just the
references, or do something else? Is the result accessible or buried in with
the family data?
kb
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If it's a problem for Legacy users, then it's on topic, particularly if there's
a possible easy fix. MD5 is heavy artillery and would require Legacy to
perform significant calculations - once when a file is first used as Legacy
media, then for every such file when mass actions like export or
Bill
It could be Google, and they are usually responsive to problems.
It may also be your ISP policies, but it could be that your traffic got
blacklisted. That can happen to spammers, but virus senders are particular
targets. That's what probably happened when gedcom attachments were
Sherry,
I use the master file/Intellishare scheme. Until all collaborators shift to
Legacy 7, there must be Legacy 6 masters, else I can't return usable copies. I
keep separate files for many branches, for good reasons, but also common
working files and database, about 5 GB. It's not real
Yep. Messes up Intellishare until all are on the later version. Unless V6
collaborators are disinherited, this ends up with an A and a B master as
best case. The B master collects and returns V6 merges, copies being merged to
the V7 A master along with contributions from V7 collaborators. V7
Oops... Go to Google Maps, find a place of interest, LEFT click a spot...
kb
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Robert
I have to do what you did - thanks for pioneering and providing a map of
admirable clarity - plus several similar tasks. How does Ancestry label the UID
in a gedcom, and how did you re-map? Also, is the positioning in the ancestry
gedcom identical or equivalent, so a simple global
I hear y'all - no one with sense messes with a GEDCOM unless he has to. I may
have to.
I only had a couple of small Ancestry GEDCOMs handy to look at. Only two user
defined fields, properly distinguished by a leading underline - _PREF and
_MEDI. Then I thought to look at the header. The date
Legacy, like certain other programs, assigns a UID number to any record you
enter, keeps those it finds with records already having them, and I think
generates one for any record without one. Any GEDCOM created by Legacy should
have the numbers on lines headed by _UID. It would be odd for
I have good reason to use Legacy for genealogies which are a sparse in hard
data or missing a piece. Does Legacy offer a general way to bridge gaps from
missing individuals or discontinuity in information?
kb
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Dawn and Bill,
I have specific present problems, but my question was intended to be general.
Two examples, a data disjoint one from my maternal tree, the other missing
people gaps from a project:
John Pratt b. ~1520 left a PCC will entailing Plymtree property to Edwardmale
heirs, line
Hi Wendy,
Thanks, but my problem is the need for links to be able to use the facilities
built into Legacy. For my mother's line case, I'd like to run descendant
charts etc. from John of ~1520 to include our family line, all early relatives
in Devon, the famous Camden Pratt line and its
there for people with multiple parents.
When you have created the search list select the family tab
That will show you who those parents are as well as any siblings they
have in each family.
Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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