Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Talking about the Quotes and where they belong, I checked that my name is still wrong[1]. In Latin America we have two last names: The first is from the (first) last name of your father and the second is from (first) last name of your mother. So, my name Is: Offray Luna Cárdenas. [1]

Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 16/02/17 18:09, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > wrote: I would like Leo interactive documentation to be as easy to browse as Org's and to point to the external world (and of

Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < off...@riseup.net> wrote: I would like Leo interactive documentation to be as easy to browse as Org's > and to point to the external world (and of course search and privacy > friendly). > ​Worthy goals. I'm not sure when it will

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread lewis
Hi, Re: Indeed, the Learn why Leo is special link on Leo's home page contains all the quotes. Very nice! A place to go and enjoy all the stories of how Leo changed the way they approach things. Re: Here's a radical idea. Put all the intro

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < off...@riseup.net> wrote: I think there is a lot of power in cross-pollination of ideas > ​. > ​Imo, this is where almost all innovation happens, and why ideas tend to be invented by multiple people almost simultaneously. It's also

Re: Leo vs org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:22 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I guess I wonder which tasks can currently only be accomplished with org > mode, and not Leo. > > I thought Leo had recently acquired support for multiple source > languages? Or are you talking

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
I think Ctrl-PgDn, Ctrl-PgUp also work, I think most web browsers use those? Cheers -Terry On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 4:49:28 PM UTC, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:43 AM, jkn wrote: If I have multiple files open in Leo, so multiple 'file tabs'

Re: Leo vs org mode

2017-02-16 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
I guess I wonder which tasks can currently only be accomplished with org mode, and not Leo. I thought Leo had recently acquired support for multiple source languages?  Or are you talking about executing, not syntax highlighting? A good table editor would be nice, it should read/write from

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 16/02/17 17:04, Edward K. Ream wrote: [...] Another idea: use markdown instead of rST , and (maybe) purge the discussion of rST from the intro. The great advantage of markdown is that it is html

Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 16/02/17 16:54, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:14:33 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 10:47:01 AM UTC-6, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: ... [The process] seemed more like reading a map and finding where

My dear, here we must run as fast as we can...

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
“My dear, here we must run as fast as we can, just to stay in place. And if you wish to go anywhere you must run twice as fast as that.”-- Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland. Pretty much sums up my state of mind these days. It's the best state of mind there is. Thanks to all of you for your

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread jkn
On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 4:49:28 PM UTC, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:43 AM, jkn > wrote: > >> >> If I have multiple files open in Leo, so multiple 'file tabs' at the top >> of the window, are there commands that would allow me to

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 5:51:51 PM UTC-6, lewis wrote: After clicking 'Learn about Leo in 10 minutes' the first thing I read are > quotes about Leo. This is a distraction and quite *annoying clutter.* > The more I think about this, the more I think you may be right. Indeed, the

Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:14:33 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 10:47:01 AM UTC-6, Offray Vladimir Luna > Cárdenas wrote: > ... > [The process] seemed more like reading a map and finding where I was and >> then >> finding my way to my intended

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, It's interesting where the conversation on literate programming and the videos about org mode (particularly literate dev-ops) lead us. I think there is a lot of power in cross-pollination of ideas (so is nice to see agenda and tables pluging going to Leo and also the .org format

Leo vs org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
A brief comparison of Leo and org mode. Org mode has these strengths: - Drawers: visible, pure text, easily extensible uA's. - Agendas and tables. - In-pane rendering of Latex and special symbols. - Support for multiple source languages, including shell scripts, C, etc. - Code blocks, with

Re: Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 10:47:01 AM UTC-6, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Recently I need to create a table in plain text and I new that Org-Mode > has a easy and intuitive way to do it, but I *didn't* want to learn > emacs to use Org-Mode. So I went to the Org-Mode screencasts

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: >> So, what would be great is to be able to mark e.g. a chapter or section node with a ​​ n option "include all child nodes in the chapter's body pane in outline order", with the ability to edit the child nodes' contents

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 11:08:49 AM UTC-6, Arjan wrote: ...two further desiderata based on org mode's capabilities > > 1. Support for tabular data inside the body pane. > A new table.py plugin will do this. 2. In OrgMode, outline structure and content are in the same pane. > This is

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 4:26:44 PM UTC-6, Israel Hands wrote: > for me the killer dimension of org-mode is the Agenda view Leo must have an agenda plugin, possibly based on Terry's todo plugin. >Auctex...kept me on Emacs. Leo must have an easy way of rendering Latex and other symbols

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:52 PM, rengel wrote: > Thank you for providing this link to the excellent introduction to Org-mode! > You are right: Taken out of context your quote is 'not light reading'. But to > be fair, [the preceding paragraphs explains] the

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread rengel
> > > To get a feel for something completely different, I recommend looking at > the org-mode docs > . Here > is an extended quotes from that page: > > Q > Org-mode provides facilities to create and modify metadata quickly

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread john lunzer
1. Agree, auto-formatting tabular data in Org-mode is one of the central features. 2. I will go back to my "continuous edit pane" idea. I think if you really want to recreate Org-mode and make it attractive to those familiar with Org-mode there must be a "continuous edit pane" mode for Leo.

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread john lunzer
I've seen Next and Prior used on the linux side for key mapping. But I agree that these names are confusing. http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/List_of_Keysyms_Recognised_by_Xmodmap I have to believe they are ancient designations perhaps going back to the teletype era. A quick google search

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Arjan
This sounds great! I would add two further desiderata based on orgmode's capabilities (though I don't know if they are feasible). 1. Support for tabular data inside the body pane. In orgmode capturing some tabular data is as easy as writing "| column a | column b |" etc.; you can navigate

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 16/02/17 11:17, Edward K. Ream wrote: ​​ On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:51 PM, lewis > wrote: After clicking 'Learn about Leo in 10 minutes' the first thing I read are quotes about Leo. This is a distraction and quite

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:43 AM, jkn wrote: > > If I have multiple files open in Leo, so multiple 'file tabs' at the top > of the window, are there commands that would allow me to switch from one > file to another? > ​As discussed, Ctrl-Tab (a standard binding) does

Org Mode: Learning on demand

2017-02-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Now that we're discussing about redoing the documentation in a more direct and pedagogic way, I would like to share my experience while using recently emacs. This could be helpful, but I understand that the one actually making the documentation is Edward, and we're trying to help from

Re: Please review Leo's new 10-minute intro

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
​​ On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:51 PM, lewis wrote: > After clicking 'Learn about Leo in 10 minutes' the first thing I read are > quotes about Leo. This is a distraction and quite *annoying clutter.* > ​I disagree, but let's not get bogged down in details. To get a feel

Re: About org mode

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 4:21:20 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Leo [must] have *everything* that org-mode has. Leo's to-do list now contains the following: - Steal everything useful from org mode: - Agenda. - Text drawers replace uA's. - Rendering of Latex, etc. in Leo's

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread jkn
Hi John On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:19:00 PM UTC, john lunzer wrote: > > Also looks like Ctrl+Tab performs the same function as Ctrl+PgDown > > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:21:17 AM UTC-5, john lunzer wrote: >> >> I believe these are already bound to Ctrl + PgUp/PgDown. If not let

Re: crash reading LeoDocs.leo

2017-02-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
​​ ​On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:32 AM, lewis wrote: ​> ​ I managed to hard crash Leo ​...In a viewrendered window I clicked on [a url]​. My apologies for this. Rev cbc0b03 fixes the problem and ensures that Leo can never again exit unexpected in exactly the same way.

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread john lunzer
Also looks like Ctrl+Tab performs the same function as Ctrl+PgDown On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:21:17 AM UTC-5, john lunzer wrote: > > I believe these are already bound to Ctrl + PgUp/PgDown. If not let me > know and I'll fish them out. > > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 6:43:13 AM

Re: commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread john lunzer
I believe these are already bound to Ctrl + PgUp/PgDown. If not let me know and I'll fish them out. On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 6:43:13 AM UTC-5, jkn wrote: > > Hi all > possibly-dumb question, although I can't find it in the cheat sheet > for via print-commands: > > If I have

commands to move to next file in 'file edit list'?

2017-02-16 Thread jkn
Hi all possibly-dumb question, although I can't find it in the cheat sheet for via print-commands: If I have multiple files open in Leo, so multiple 'file tabs' at the top of the window, are there commands that would allow me to switch from one file to another? Currently I have to click on

crash reading LeoDocs.leo

2017-02-16 Thread lewis
I managed to hard crash Leo - opened LeoDocs.leo at #Tutorials-->@rst html\tutorial-scripting.html In a viewrendered window I clicked on the links 'cheatsheet.html#scripting' or 'cheatsheet.html' or '#scripting-leo-with-python' i.e. *Further study: The scripting portion of Leo's cheat sheet