On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 21:52 -0400, David wrote:
> I'm beginning to wish I had never taken this on because nothing I've
> tried has made the least difference. Clearly I need the firmware but
> where I would get it and what I did with it if I found it is anybody's
> guess.
Searching for "5100 agn"
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 22:31 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Ken Moffat wrote:
>
> > 1. Running too many jobs in parallel _will_ bring a system to its
> > knees.
>
> If you *really* want to bring a system to its kness, try 'make -j' (no
> number) on a significant package like gcc or the kernel.
Heh.
On Sat, 2014-06-21 at 17:11 +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> My SSD is 120GiO and 80 are still free. The RAM is 16GiO.
>
> I always used to have a swap partition, so I continue to make it but it's
> perhaps not so important.
Yeah, I've just upgraded my desktop machine to 20GB RAM (the 4GB it
a
On Sat, 2014-06-21 at 10:58 -0500, William Harrington wrote:
> Until you have a runaway situation where your system comes to a crawl.
> Systems with 16GB ram still aren't immune to thrashing when the ram is
> all used up.
If some runaway process has blown through 16GB of memory, what good is
h
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 11:35 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Generally I agree, but if you want to use pm-utils to hibernate, you
> need a swap partition to save a memory image.
That's a fair point. I don't use that on the machine in question - it's
either suspended overnight - but I do use hibernate
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 17:13 +0200, Armin K. wrote:
> Two network configuration service were always in conflict. If you want
> systemd-networkd to manage, lets say, wired connection, you make
> NetworkManager ignore it. I don't think you can yet make NetworkManager
> "use" systemd-networkd, since bo
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 14:13 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> A bit off topic, but I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
> as a reason that they use dash. I think their problem is not so much
> bash as too many complicated scripts. They don't document the saving.
> On an LFS system, the time in
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 17:44 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> That's interesting. Are you using systemd? PID 0 is the init program.
No, PID *1* is the init program. There's no such thing as PID 0... I'd
assume this is some kind of uninitialised value?
Simon.
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On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 10:27 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> You are probably trying to select the commands from a pdf before
> pasting. That's a problem with the pdf generation. Use the html instead.
Out of curiosity, what's the major use-case for people using a PDF
version of the book, as opposed
On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 11:07 +0100, akhiezer wrote:
> But I guess that a central question being raised (again?), at least
> implicitly, is: if the copy'n'paste from pdf is proving to be a _known_
> and _ongoing_ problem, then should a note be auto-inserted at the top and
> centre of the pdf version
On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 23:17 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> WOW! I think I found the problem. Yep! that was it. I needed to
> check what I was coppying (pdf/html difference).
>
Seriously, stick to the HTML version if you want to copy-paste commands
from the book. Copying from PDF is just aski
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 22:03 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> en_US.UTF-8? Really? I was thinking the right thing to do was to use
> en_US.iso88591 because en_US locale is it's alias. So, you are saying
> to use en_US.UTF-8?
Yes. UTF-8 is modern and standard, designed to cope with non-English
chara
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 14:44 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Certainly, but I have no need for non-ascii characters in a terminal so
> I prefer to leave LANG and LC_* unset.
Whereas while I can personally only speak English with any fluency, I
travel regularly for pleasure, and work with people from a
On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 13:27 +, Mcgroder, James wrote:
> I'm curious about average/typical LFS build time. Obviously there are many
> variables however I'm hoping the community would share actual effort from
> personal experience. Should someone with good Linux/Bash command line
> experience
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 10:03 -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote:
> I traced the problem to the contents of /boot getting removed for some
> reason. The directory was completely empty, even though all the
> installation instructions (see below) worked fine.
Do you have a separate /boot partition? The t
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 18:10 -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote:
> What are the implications of doing most BLFS stuff on the host system in
> chroot, as opposed to doing it on the running target system?
Anything that actually depends on the running OS. Remember, when you're
in chroot, you're running y
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 20:14 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> For systemd, I suspect that building in chroot may not be so easy,
> especially if the host is not running systemd.
I don't think systemd will make much difference to *building*, though it
may make some difference to running test suites duri
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 11:54 +0800, Cifer Lee wrote:
> I have noticed that LFS 7.6 was released, and the kernel version
> adopted is 3.16.2, it's a stable kernel.
>
> But, LFS 7.5, using the 3.13.3 kernel when released.
>
> Is there some rules for LFS choosing kernel version?
Yeah... it's whateve
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 11:46 +0200, Alexey Orishko wrote:
> Anyway, using something like log-term kernel release in the book is nice,
> but not necessary if kernel version can be changed during LFS build.
Which, of course, it can... "your system, your rules" as we say.
But anyone building LFS sys
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:41 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> loki wrote:
> > I personally am interested in the remote version, through ssh, of this
> > check. That is, can this vulnerability be used at the pre-auth stage of
> > ssh remote login, or does the attacker have to have some kind of login?
>
>
On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 19:56 +0200, Tim Tassonis wrote:
> My question for future installation is:
>
> Are there known problems if I integrate pam already in the initial lfs
> install, not then having to reinstall shadow and libcap. I would then
> change the lfs installation order to:
Yes, that's w
On 17/12/2014 06:20, Paul Rogers wrote:
Both have had flaws announced, seems this was the year. The 2012
BLFS
book has instructions for both, but AFAIK one has to choose one.
I've
always used OpenSSL, though its reputation has been somewhat
tarnished
this year. But maybe that means it has g
On Fri, 2015-01-02 at 21:27 -0500, Lildeanhead wrote:
> When reading the LFS Book, chapter 5.1 says the temporary tools will
> be installed in $LFS/tools, but the configure scripts are passed
> PREFIX=/tools
>
>
> Wouldn't this install to /tools on the host system rather
> than /mnt/lfs/tools so
On Sun, 2015-01-04 at 23:11 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Prabhat Tiwary wrote:
> > Where can I find the required patches? Or is there another work around?
>
> That is a really old hint -- 2002. The most recent version of uClibc is
> dated May 2012. I'd try that without any patches.
Never mind t
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 10:42 -0400, rail shafigulin wrote:
> Thanks for the help. It worked!!! I spent half the day yesterday
> trying to figure out why my make install is failing. I thought it was
> because of these configure errors. Didn't think that pointing to a
> different shell would make such
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 15:16 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> You probably do not want a dhcp ip address on a headless
> box because you need to know the ip address for ssh.
Not quite - what you don't want is a *dynamic* IP address. There's no
problem with using DHCP for managing the allocation of fixed
On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 15:29 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> If distros like RedHat were really looking for consistency, they
> would use /bin, /lib, and /sbin, and remove them from /usr. What
> they really are doing is trying to make things easier for themselves
> by not being concerned where each p
On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 16:40 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Also, it goes to the philosophy used by most distros that one size
> fits all. In other words because 0.01% of systems are clustered,
> lets make it that way for the other 99.99% of users.
Which is entirely reasonable, when there's a) a lar
On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 10:50 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> But it's unreasonable for LFS/BLFS where one of the most important
> objectives is to allow users to understand their system. The
> downside for us would be to try to present a configuration for
> hardware that none of our users would have.
On Wed, 2015-12-30 at 15:47 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> A laptop is more critical if you have data there that is
> confidential. Full disk encryption is a little overkill unless you
> are in a situation where someone might try to insert a Trojan. I
> suspect it would be a rare person that would k
On Fri, 2016-01-08 at 15:11 +, Read, James C wrote:
> > What I don't really understand is how this then causes variables to
> go out of scope.
Because when you write "name=value command", $name is set only for the
command it prefixes. And && separates multiple commands.
Simon.
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On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 17:25 -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote:
> All exist but for linux-vdso.so.1. However, I responded to the
> /bin/bash question wrong. I do NOT receive the error with
> "/bin/bash."
> My mistake.
So, the shell itself is fine, but scripts that run it aren't?
Which scri
On Sun, 2016-07-17 at 13:37 +0200, Oz Tiram wrote:
> This is probably a matter of personal definition. What is functional
> for you? You can even watch films using only the Linux frame buffer.
Well, maybe... but the OP's requirement of "official GNU packages only,
from official GNU repos" is *seri
On Sat, 2016-12-31 at 12:21 +0600, ssmtpmailtesting ssmtpmailtesting
wrote:
> Is it possible to skip installing lfs-bootscripts? I want to write my
> own scripts.
Certainly it's possible... they're just shell scripts, so if you know
what you're doing, you can replace them with whatever you want. I
On Tue, 2017-01-03 at 00:53 +0100, zahlenm...@gmx.de wrote:
> Is there a way to only build "supported" headers? And if not, why is
> it this way?
>
No, short of manually installing the header files yourself. As to why,
I imagine it's mostly that it's unnecessary complexity to make that
stuff opti
On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 14:27 -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
> > First, allow me to ask a question. Why do you need to go through
> > Ch 6 again? What is fundamentally different? Is one 32-bit and
> > the other 64?
Although not explicitly saying so, I think that by "the toolkit I
created for my deskt
On Tue, 2017-04-25 at 23:36 +1000, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote:
> As mentioned in my previous email, I got a Sumsung 250GB SSD 960 EVO
> M.2. Apparently the M.2 SSD drives are much faster than the SATA SSD
> drives.
> FYI, the device shows up as /dev/nvme0n1.
>
Depends on the drive. A SATA-based SSD ov
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 21:41 +1000, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote:
> Hmm, maybe I'm getting mixed up in what M.2 actual means. I though
> M.2 was NVME.
> BTW, before my new purchase, I never heard of M.2 or NVME. Its shows
> how out of touch
> I've been in regards to new hardware technology. It was the sale
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 01:35 -0500, Rob wrote:
> Last year I heard that M$ was including a Ubuntu-based subsystem in
> its Windows 10 product. I wasn't sure this was actually going to work
> very well, but apparently it does.
> Can this be used to build LFS? I'm not sure it can because of the
> ext*
On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 11:03 +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
> Have you missed the worldwide condemnation of Microsoft where Windows
> has allowed crackers to cripple systems, including our own NHS here
> in the UK? Admittedly, much of this has been possible because
> (unbelievably) Windows XP is st
On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 17:56 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> For Ryzen, I hope to get one - but I need to sort out various things
> first (e.g. my KVM switches and monitors all use D-SUB, I don't see
> me coming up with a quick solution to that). But in the last week I
> remember seeing a post on lkml a
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