[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #44 from Drew Jensen --- (In reply to Tamas Bunth from comment #31) > from bug title: > "advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1" > > You can revert the migration by opening "content.xml"

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #42 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Florian Reisinger from comment #41) > I do not think this is fixed as of yet... Suggest to close this ticket as no dev will ever read all the messages, in

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Florian Reisinger changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on|117090 |

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||117090

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #39 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to robert from comment #37) > Seems there should appear a popup. Better would be: You choose the migration > explicit. A popup will appear every time I open a

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval | -- You

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #37 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #36) > > Oops, nevermind. Just read the migrwarndlg.ui in > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52876/ > Seems there should appear a popup.

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #36 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #35) > @Tamás, Miklos, Lionel, * > > With internal HSQLDB support now restored through 6.1 (and likely through > later releases)

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #35 from V Stuart Foote --- @Tamás, Miklos, Lionel, * With internal HSQLDB support now restored through 6.1 (and likely through later releases) why shouldn't we make the offer of odb migration to

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #34 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Florian Reisinger from comment #33) "Users" are not going to be working with master/6.1.0 at this point! Rather, it remains in the preview of project QA

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #33 from Florian Reisinger --- @Tamas: EDIT START I am very happy about changes happening in the right direction. The statement below still is true. On the one hand we still have a few months until it

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #32 from Tamas Bunth --- Hi Florian, (In reply to Florian Reisinger from comment #30) > As no kind of relationships (foreign key relations) or views can be migrated > to Firebird users should not be

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #31 from Tamas Bunth --- from bug title: "advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1" You can revert the migration by opening "content.xml" in the zipped structure and replace the URL

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #30 from Florian Reisinger --- As no kind of relationships (foreign key relations) or views can be migrated to Firebird users should not be prompted just yet! With the current migration quality, this

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #29 from Commit Notification --- Tamas Bunth committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master":

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Commit Notification changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #28 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- (In reply to Gerhard Weydt from comment #27) > I simply do not know how to "put Tamás in cc" Near top right of bug, to the right of "CC list", click "edit". In the "add"

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #27 from Gerhard Weydt --- @25: That's just the problem I wanted to address: you people in the heart of LibreOffice have many connections, but we simple users (as which I consider myself: I have 30

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #26 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Lionel Elie Mamane from comment #25) > File bugs, put Tamás in CC, and make it block bug 116968, 116970 or 51780 as > appropriate. To make it just a bit easier

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #25 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- (In reply to Gerhard Weydt from comment #24) > (...) should intensively test Firebird and the migration program > - Where can we report? File bugs, put Tamás in CC, and

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #24 from Gerhard Weydt --- I think we all agree that the presently communicated concept for the change-over from HSQLDB to Firebird - which I hope all will accept as necessary in the long run - is

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #23 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de --- (In reply to Lionel Elie Mamane from comment #21) > > Deprecation when Firebird is in good shape (cf the > tracker bug for that), and removal at least one major distro LTS cycle after >

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #22 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- (In reply to robert from comment #17) > Okay, have understand it the wrong way while reading about bugs migration > from HSQLDB to Firebird. Only 6.1.0.0.alpha0 will

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #21 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- (In reply to Florian Reisinger from comment #15) > If you care to explain why > > - removing a DB backend without deprication notice > - keeping the HSQLDB data in the ODB

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #20 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Florian Reisinger from comment #19) > > Doing to automatically won't work as the user might not have permission to > create a new file. > > I honestly do not

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #19 from Florian Reisinger --- (In reply to jonathon from comment #18) > If it is going to automatically convert the database, could the first step > in the conversion process be copying the file from

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #18 from jonathon --- If it is going to automatically convert the database, could the first step in the conversion process be copying the file from filename.odb to filename.HSQLDB.date.time.odb. The

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #17 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #16) > Who said ANYTHING about the migration engine being backported to a 6.0 > release? > Okay, have understand it the wrong way while reading

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #16 from V Stuart Foote --- Who said ANYTHING about the migration engine being backported to a 6.0 release? Deprecation notice needs to have gone in to the 6.0 release notes (and probably should have

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #15 from Florian Reisinger --- #11 "It is up to developer to decide what is best" (non 100% quote from the linked thread) is not always the best solution as backward compatibility takes effort. As I am

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #14 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de --- Firebird has been experimental the whole time. Nobody should add a new feature like "Firebird not experimental - Automatic HSQLDB-migration" during an update from 6.0.3 to 6.0.4. No

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #13 from Gerhard Weydt --- @ 11: The deprecation notice should have appeared in the release notes for 6.0 from the very beginning. Now it's too late for many people who have already updated and will

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #12 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #11) > There is ESC support for the implementation (Lionel is a member) There is ESC support for the migration, and the change of

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #11 from V Stuart Foote --- Hate to be the lone voice of dissent here, but Tamás remains under tender from the foundation to get the HSQLDB migration tool done correctly. There is ESC support for the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #10 from Florian Reisinger --- I would let the user save a new file. I guess the awareness might be higher that he is able to use the old file with the old LibreOffice version. Let him store a new file for

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #9 from Thomas Lendo --- >From a UX point of view, we should not suppose that the user is creating a backup file manually even if we warn him by an info bar. We should force the user 1) either to save

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #8 from Florian Reisinger --- If (as currently built in) the content of the file is changed there is no way going back! If (in some way) the conversion is happening in a separate file, the user at least

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Gerhard Weydt changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #6 from Florian Reisinger --- @4: The file would be irreversible damaged I the conversation was not successful? @5: We can only get problems when automatically saving to a new location: - space on disc

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #5 from Lionel Elie Mamane --- IMO we should either: 1) eschew the need for backup altogether by _not_ overwriting the *same* .odb file, but saving the converted odb under a new name (e.g. one that we

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- How about an infobar telling the user that migration was successful, or not? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116944] Firebird-migration must happen only after user consent and advise to backup data prior to migration at 6.1

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 Lionel Elie Mamane changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Firebird-migration must