[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Tim, Eric, @Tim: > everyone has to start > somewhere and saying Lift is only appropriate for hardcore programmers > because its a new framework is wrong IMHO. Compared to certain other starting points, there are a lot of extra hurdles to overcome if you're going to attempt lift as your intro to

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Wilson MacGyver wrote: > > Wouldn't Ch6 on actors be useful too? Not for getting to the To Do app. In this case, I think less is more... learn enough Scala to understand how to do basic Lift stuff. Get success with building a Lift app. Go back to Chapter 6, le

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Wouldn't Ch6 on actors be useful too? But yea, Ch7 would be too much. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM, David Pollak wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Wilson MacGyver > wrote: >> >> I would like to suggest David's "Beginning Scala" book. It's written >> for new comer. And has lots of e

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Wilson MacGyver wrote: > > I would like to suggest David's "Beginning Scala" book. It's written > for new comer. And has lots of examples that you can play with > using Scala's REPL. Heh... you beat me to the suggestion... ;-) Chapters 2-5 of *Beginning Scala* s

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

I would like to suggest David's "Beginning Scala" book. It's written for new comer. And has lots of examples that you can play with using Scala's REPL. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM, eric cs wrote: > > David, awesome ideas you got there,thanks, about posting my > improvements and stuff, pretty u

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

David, awesome ideas you got there,thanks, about posting my improvements and stuff, pretty unique really and it will helps for future programers as well specially coming raw into Scala. I totally agree with you, maybe Scala is too much for a new guy who doesn't know some basic and advanced concept

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

I would echo David's comment. Scala is a powerful language with high complexity budget. I think it's important to learn the fundamentals of Scala first and build on top of it. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Pollak wrote: > Eric, > > It seems that you want to hike the Appalachain Trail at

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Eric, It seems that you want to hike the Appalachain Trail at marathon speeds. I'm not sure it can be done. It took me 18 months with Scala before I felt comfortable with it and my learning curve with new languages is

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

The tutorials on liftweb website is a good starting point. The definite guide liftweb book is a good resource if you need something that is more thorough and organized. Online presentations is a quick way to get start and learn the concept. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM, eric cs wrote: > > Gu

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Guys, Thank you very much for all your answers. Having a community like that, I know is half way there for anyone. I am very very very eager to learn, that's my number one priorite right now and the e-commerce is an example to work with some real application and apply logic and a database to learn

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Ellis, Im afraid I disagree with you - Eric does not state what type of "eComerce" application he wants to create... IMO, this is very subjective. Lift ships out of the box with PayPal integration - one could say that a site which allows a user to pay via paypal is eCommerce... would you disagree

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

To this I would add: The way to learn to program, is to program. It takes a lot of time, and a lot of hard work. Reading books is good, and necessary, but it's not enough. Also, Lift really uses Scala to the max, so if you only have 30 days, I would plan to spend the first half just becoming g

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

I say: Go Eric go! Nothing is impossible with the right attitude! On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Ellis, > > Im afraid I disagree with you - Eric does not state what type of > "eComerce" application he wants to create... IMO, this is very > subjective. Lift ships out

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

Hi Eric, Here are a few comments and suggestions. - Honestly, I don't think that lift and scala are the right places for you to start out. The systems are very powerful, but relatively new, and so they are still geared towards more experienced programmers. - You'll need more than a month to bec

[Lift] Re: Becoming a Scala/Lift Guru

I would say that the main advantage knowledge of Java over a similar language gives you is knowledge of the Java environment and system, but you can pick that up via scala too. As far as turning theory into actual programming, my personal advice is to take one small sample, get it running, and