Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Turning the leaves of American hymnbooks, I can't see many > where space is saved just by combining voices. I don’t have time to do the same… but as I said, the spacing savings of combined voices is quite easy to demonstrate: SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.32" \new ChoirStaff

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 15:52:06 (-0400), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Karlin, > > > what exactly causes the attraction to combined voices and > > the disaffection for separated voices? I'm not sure, but I'll try to answer. > > I think that answer is pretty good, and probably partly true. Related

Re: Why the part-combining in American hymnals? (WAS: Beaming, partcombine and pickups)

2016-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 19:16:16 (+), Karlin High wrote: > PS - Another American tradition is shaped notes, as in the Lilypond > \aikenHeads command. I think those want combining even more; the > attached PNG has an example. My own view here is that the 4th shaped note is a good example of

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2016 um 22:49 schrieb Urs Liska: > Am 19.09.2016 um 20:50 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >> [...] >> >> You are working with slopes here. Don't. They don't support vertical >> lines. >> > Yes, that's what I realized ... > >> Please take a look at

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2016 um 20:50 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > > [...] > > You are working with slopes here. Don't. They don't support vertical > lines. > Yes, that's what I realized ... > Please take a look at the recently added functions > >ly:length

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: [...] You are working with slopes here. Don't. They don't support vertical lines. Please take a look at the recently added functions ly:length ly:angle ly:directed They will usually make it easy to do the operations you want. In particular

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 19 Sep 2016, at 20:25, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: >> Perhaps it looks better with the second derivatives lined up as well. > > That precludes a straight line (second derivative 0) running into a > circle arc (second derivative 1/(2pi r)

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 19 Sep 2016, at 10:41, David Kastrup wrote: > >> It would be my guess that the hands-on manipulative features of control >> points have made cubic Beziers the go-to curve approximation and design >> tool. > > Perhaps it looks better

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 19 Sep 2016, at 10:41, David Kastrup wrote: > It would be my guess that the hands-on manipulative features of control > points have made cubic Beziers the go-to curve approximation and design > tool. Perhaps it looks better with the second derivatives lined up as well.

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2016 um 18:41 schrieb Urs Liska: > > Am 18.09.2016 um 22:16 schrieb Thomas Morley: >> 2016-09-18 20:26 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : >>> Am 18.09.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Simon Albrecht: May I incorporate that into the LSR version? >>> I suggest not to do

Re: Horizontal alingment of lyrics hyphens?

2016-09-19 Thread Phil Holmes
Generally, songs with lyrics are set with a ChoirStaff rather than a StaffGroup. These do not have barlines spanning the space between the staves, and so the problem does not occur. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: kmg To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday,

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 18 Sep 2016, at 14:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: >> >> On 18.09.2016 13:54, Andrew Bernard wrote: > >>> What is it exactly that you are expecting a quartic to give you? >> >> Oh, I think you’re quite overestimating the amount of

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.09.2016 um 22:16 schrieb Thomas Morley: > 2016-09-18 20:26 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : >> Am 18.09.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Simon Albrecht: >>> May I incorporate that into the LSR version? >>> >>> >> I suggest not to do anything right now. I assume that once I'll come up >>

Horizontal alingment of lyrics hyphens?

2016-09-19 Thread kmg
Hey guys, I recently discovered Lily and I like it a lot. For practice purposes I decided to engrave some old psalm and lyrics look bad. From what I read, hyphens are always centered between sylabes, so my question: is there a way to avoid them getting into barlines, or align them in verses?

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-19 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/19/16 2:53 AM, "Chris Yate" wrote: >Looking at the results, I suspect the positioning algorithm should try to >place dots on the space-notes first, then work the line-notes around them. > > >Additionally, chord-dots-limit might be used to limit how far away the >dots

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
One further iteration. Please let me know what you think of the interface: -\compoundSlur \with { % offsets against the automatic control points offsets = #'((0 . -1.5) ; left starting point (-2 . -1) ; second control point (2 . -5); second-to-last control point

Re: Ladder-style C clef for TTBB men's chorus

2016-09-19 Thread Karlin High
On 9/18/2016 3:34 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > Cheers, > Pierre I'm cheering, all right! That worked beautifully, Pierre. All that scheme code with coordinates... you must love this stuff. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2016 um 00:32 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > >> Am 18.09.2016 um 20:54 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Do you know how to split a bezier at a given ratio into equivalent >>> beziers? It's a comparatively simple operation and I think it's already >>>

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-19 Thread Chris Yate
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 at 09:38 Chris Yate wrote: > On 9/18/16 4:00 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: >>> >Chris, >>> > >>> >Here's a patch. But as Werner pointed out, it's not quite done yet. I >>> >think I need to improve the badness scoring in order to get

Re: What to do wanting a 4th order Bézier?

2016-09-19 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Sep 2016, at 14:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 18.09.2016 13:54, Andrew Bernard wrote: >> What is it exactly that you are expecting a quartic to give you? > > Oh, I think you’re quite overestimating the amount of in-depth mathematical > background I had – I

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-19 Thread Chris Yate
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 at 02:31 Carl Sorensen wrote: > On 9/18/16 4:00 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > >Chris, > > > >Here's a patch. But as Werner pointed out, it's not quite done yet. I > >think I need to improve the badness scoring in order to get better >

Fwd: Re: Problem with partial measure at the beginning of the piece

2016-09-19 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Sorry, for some reply mails I (faulty) pressed the wrong send button and sent it private. Here the last mail out of that sequence (of three) for some correction. Regards Originalnachricht Betreff: Re: Problem with partial measure at the beginning of the piece Datum: