Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes:

 So my first impulse would be to throw out the workaround for 2.4.2 that

Let's do that.
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Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes:

 David Kastrup writes:

 So my first impulse would be to throw out the workaround for 2.4.2 that

 Let's do that.

Well, issue 1933
URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1933 would
suggest that this is a bad idea.  Nothing substantially has changed
since then.  I'm currently trying to get the TEXINPUTS stuff integrated
into the Mingw fix to arrive back at a working lilypond-book, but of
course it is to be hoped that moving Python forward to 2.6 might make
that problem go away.  But it will take longer to figure that out.

Our current 2.4.5 Python aborts with an error traceback even when doing

exit(0)

which is sort of ridiculous.

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Re: the next step?

2014-04-05 Thread Mike Solomon
On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:33 PM, b...@wolfcomposer.com wrote:

 Dear All, 
 
 A friend of mine asked a few questions about a pipe-organ piece i'd written 
 that was performed recently.  i ended up making two sheets of examples for 
 him, one with a table of canons in two voices, the other in four. 
 
 When i started making these, i thought of arranging them in two columns on a 
 single page.  To keep the numbers readable, i decided against this.  However, 
 i remain curious.  Is it possible to divide a page into columns?  i know that 
 text can be arranged into columns, and the Internals mention a PaperColumn 
 and its appropriate engravers and contexts.  Having read the sections on page 
 and score layout, i couldn't find anything that explicitly addressed this 
 problem.  i am working (still?!) in 2.14.2, so the next step just might be an 
 update. 
 
 If anybody wants to listen, i'd be honored.  The organist is Amelia Javorina. 
  i apologize for the audience noise, but it's the best that could be done 
 given the circumstances. 
 
 Thanks, All, and please take care. 
 bill

I recently typeset a piece like this - it required a lot of manual trickery, 
but it is doable if you use a top-level markup and the \fill-line command.  A 
recent command was also added by David N. that helps with this (see 
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3860).

It is not automated, so it is a pain, but it comes out looking very nice - you 
just have to manually do new markups for new pages.

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Re: the next step?

2014-04-05 Thread Rutger Hofman

On 04/05/2014 10:28 AM, Mike Solomon wrote:

On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:33 PM, b...@wolfcomposer.com
mailto:b...@wolfcomposer.com wrote:


Dear All,

A friend of mine asked a few questions about a pipe-organ piece i'd
written that was performed recently.  i ended up making two sheets of
examples for him, one with a table of canons in two voices
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/chaconne_a2-canon_analysis.pdf,
the other in four
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/chaconne_a4-canon_analysis.pdf.


When i started making these, i thought of arranging them in two
columns on a single page.  To keep the numbers readable, i decided
against this.  However, i remain curious.  Is it possible to divide a
page into columns?  i know that text can be arranged into columns, and
the Internals mention a PaperColumn and its appropriate engravers and
contexts.  Having read the sections on page and score layout, i
couldn't find anything that explicitly addressed this problem.  i am
working (still?!) in 2.14.2, so the next step just might be an update.

If anybody wants to listen
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/Chaccone%20Rondo.mp3,
i'd be honored.  The organist is Amelia Javorina.  i apologize for the
audience noise, but it's the best that could be done given the
circumstances.

Thanks, All, and please take care.
bill


I recently typeset a piece like this - it required a lot of manual
trickery, but it is doable if you use a top-level markup and the
\fill-line command.  A recent command was also added by David N. that
helps with this (see
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3860).

It is not automated, so it is a pain, but it comes out looking very nice
- you just have to manually do new markups for new pages.


Wouldn't it be easier to typeset it in the regular way but with page 
width set to the desired column width, and then use some PDF or 
Postscript manipulation tool to move each pair of pages into one?


Rutger


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Re: the next step?

2014-04-05 Thread Urs Liska
Should be easily doable in a two-column LaTeX document?

Rutger Hofman rut...@cs.vu.nl schrieb am 05.04.2014:

On 04/05/2014 10:28 AM, Mike Solomon wrote:

On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:33 PM, b...@wolfcomposer.com
mailto:b...@wolfcomposer.com wrote:

Dear All,

A friend of mine asked a few questions about a pipe-organ piece i'd
written that was performed recently. i ended up making two sheets of
examples for him, one with a table of canons in two voices
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/chaconne_a2-canon_analysis.pdf,
the other in four
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/chaconne_a4-canon_analysis.pdf.


When i started making these, i thought of arranging them in two
columns on a single page. To keep the numbers readable, i decided
against this. However, i remain curious. Is it possible to divide a
page into columns? i know that text can be arranged into columns, and
the Internals mention a PaperColumn and its appropriate engravers and
contexts. Having read the sections on page and score layout, i
couldn't find anything that explicitly addressed this problem. i am
working (still?!) in 2.14.2, so the next step just might be an update.

If anybody wants to listen
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97727771/Chaccone%20Rondo.mp3,
i'd be honored. The organist is Amelia Javorina. i apologize for the
audience noise, but it's the best that could be done given the
circumstances.

Thanks, All, and please take care.
bill


I recently typeset a piece like this - it required a lot of manual
trickery, but it is doable if you use a top-level markup and the
\fill-line command. A recent command was also added by David N. that
helps with this (see
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3860).

It is not automated, so it is a pain, but it comes out looking very nice
- you just have to manually do new markups for new pages.


Wouldn't it be easier to typeset it in the regular way but with page 
width set to the desired column width, and then use some PDF or 
Postscript manipulation tool to move each pair of pages into one?

Rutger





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Re: the next step?

2014-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 Should be easily doable in a two-column LaTeX document?

I think there are a few scripts around using pdftex for arranging PDF
files.  But it is pretty much a shame that we

a) have our page builder hardwired b) cannot nest page builders.

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q?

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the previous note 
or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the documentation (and doing a search 
for q isn't likely to be much help!). Is it there, or should it be?

 
Regards,

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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes:

 In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the
 previous note or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the
 documentation (and doing a search for q isn't likely to be much
 help!). Is it there, or should it be?

You could always look in the index.  Except that it isn't in there.  Bug
squad?

At any rate, it's in
URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition.

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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-05 12:45 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:

 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes:

  In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the
  previous note or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the
  documentation (and doing a search for q isn't likely to be much
  help!). Is it there, or should it be?

 You could always look in the index.  Except that it isn't in there.  Bug
 squad?

 At any rate, it's in
 URL:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition
 .


https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3896
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Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
I'm having problems with a tremolo sign (see snippet):

1) It's too short - surely there should be a minimum size for it and it should 
be shunted to the next line?

2) It's in rather an odd place vertically: surely it should be either between 
the notes if they're well-separated as here or below both of them?

3) In printed music, tremolo signs between notes (not when attached to stems) 
are usually slanted, which stops them getting mixed up with the staff lines.

I agree that there are probably tweaks for these, but I'd hope that the 
defaults wouldn't need tweaking.
 
Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

\version 2.18.0

\language english

left = \relative c' {

  c1 c c c c c c c c c c c c
 \repeat tremolo 16 { c 32 c,} |
 
}

\score {
  
  \new PianoStaff 

\new Staff { \clef bass \left }


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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com:

  In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the
 previous note or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the documentation
 (and doing a search for q isn't likely to be much help!). Is it there, or
 should it be?


If you know already what it is, then search is very easy.
Go in the index of the Notation Reference and search chord, repeats and you
find this link:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#index-Chord_002c-repetition

Usually the commands are listed also under \, but there's no \q in the doc.
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Re: Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
Problems with tremolo signsWhole note tremolos are not pretty.  See 
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1444

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:55 AM
  Subject: Problems with tremolo signs


  I'm having problems with a tremolo sign (see snippet):

  1) It's too short - surely there should be a minimum size for it and it 
should be shunted to the next line?

  2) It's in rather an odd place vertically: surely it should be either between 
the notes if they're well-separated as here or below both of them?

  3) In printed music, tremolo signs between notes (not when attached to stems) 
are usually slanted, which stops them getting mixed up with the staff lines.

  I agree that there are probably tweaks for these, but I'd hope that the 
defaults wouldn't need tweaking.

  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  \version 2.18.0

  \language english

  left = \relative c' {

   c1 c c c c c c c c c c c c
  \repeat tremolo 16 { c 32 c,} |

  }

  \score {
   
   \new PianoStaff 

 \new Staff { \clef bass \left }


  }



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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
Federico,

If I had known what it was, it would have been very easy! It's not just for 
fretted strings - I'm a pianist and repeated chords happen quite a lot, 
especially in orchestral reductions. It would have saved me a LOT of time 
recently.

Also, shouldn't it be just q rather than \q? That's what I've seen and it 
works on my input.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 11:49:20 AM, you wrote:


2014-04-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com:
In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the previous note 
or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the documentation (and doing a search 
for q isn't likely to be much help!). Is it there, or should it be?


If you know already what it is, then search is very easy.
Go in the index of the Notation Reference and search chord, repeats and you 
find this link:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#index-Chord_002c-repetition

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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
Thanks David,

I know it's not easy to write technical documentation and some things always 
slip through.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 11:45:44 AM, you wrote:

 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes:

 In some snippets I've seen a note q which appears to repeat the
 previous note or chord. But I can't see it anywhere in the
 documentation (and doing a search for q isn't likely to be much
 help!). Is it there, or should it be?

 You could always look in the index.  Except that it isn't in there. Bug
 squad?

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Re: q?

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-05 13:09 GMT+02:00 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com:

  Federico,

 If I had known what it was, it would have been very easy! It's not just
 for fretted strings - I'm a pianist and repeated chords happen quite a lot,
 especially in orchestral reductions. It would have saved me a LOT of time
 recently.

 Also, shouldn't it be just q rather than \q? That's what I've seen and
 it works on my input.


Sure, you are right.. (damned multitasking...).
For sure the index entries are not good, I'll update the issue with proper
information.
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Re: Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
Thanks Phil,

I'd not realised it was already in the issue list.

As I'm only a casual user (a performer, not usually an arranger or composer) 
I'm never sure whether to raise an issue or mention a problem on the mailing 
list.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 11:59:53 AM, you wrote:


Whole note tremolos are not pretty.  See 
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1444

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:55 AM
Subject: Problems with tremolo signs

I'm having problems with a tremolo sign (see snippet):

1) It's too short - surely there should be a minimum size for it and it should 
be shunted to the next line?

2) It's in rather an odd place vertically: surely it should be either between 
the notes if they're well-separated as here or below both of them?

3) In printed music, tremolo signs between notes (not when attached to stems) 
are usually slanted, which stops them getting mixed up with the staff lines.

I agree that there are probably tweaks for these, but I'd hope that the 
defaults wouldn't need tweaking.

Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

\version 2.18.0

\language english

left = \relative c' {

 c1 c c c c c c c c c c c c
\repeat tremolo 16 { c 32 c,} |

}

\score {
 
 \new PianoStaff 

   \new Staff { \clef bass \left }


}

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Re: Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Urs Liska
It wasn't but has been added today :-)

Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com schrieb am 05.04.2014:
Thanks Phil,

I'd not realised it was already in the issue list.

As I'm only a casual user (a performer, not usually an arranger or
composer) I'm never sure whether to raise an issue or mention a problem
on the mailing list.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 11:59:53 AM, you wrote:


Whole note tremolos are not pretty.  See
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1444

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:55 AM
Subject: Problems with tremolo signs

I'm having problems with a tremolo sign (see snippet):

1) It's too short - surely there should be a minimum size for it and it
should be shunted to the next line?

2) It's in rather an odd place vertically: surely it should be either
between the notes if they're well-separated as here or below both of
them?

3) In printed music, tremolo signs between notes (not when attached to
stems) are usually slanted, which stops them getting mixed up with the
staff lines.

I agree that there are probably tweaks for these, but I'd hope that the
defaults wouldn't need tweaking.

Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

\version 2.18.0

\language english

left = \relative c' {

 c1 c c c c c c c c c c c c
\repeat tremolo 16 { c 32 c,} |

}

\score {
 
 \new PianoStaff 

   \new Staff { \clef bass \left }


}

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Re: Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Urs Liska 
To: Peter Toye ; Phil Holmes 
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:43 PM

Subject: Re: Problems with tremolo signs


It wasn't but has been added today :-)


The tremolo problem has been in the list since 2010!

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Re: Problems with tremolo signs

2014-04-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 05.04.2014 13:43, schrieb Urs Liska:

It wasn't but has been added today :-)


Huh? Issue 1444 is dated Dec 10, 2010 ... or am I missing something?

Marc


Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com schrieb am 05.04.2014:

Thanks Phil,

I'd not realised it was already in the issue list.

As I'm only a casual user (a performer, not usually an arranger or
composer) I'm never sure whether to raise an issue or mention a
problem on the mailing list.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com http://www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 11:59:53 AM, you wrote:


Whole note tremolos are not pretty.  See
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1444

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- Original Message -
*From: *Peter Toye mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
*To: *lilypond-user@gnu.org mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org
*Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:55 AM
*Subject:* Problems with tremolo signs

I'm having problems with a tremolo sign (see snippet):

1) It's too short - surely there should be a minimum size for it and
it should be shunted to the next line?

2) It's in rather an odd place vertically: surely it should be
either between the notes if they're well-separated as here or below
both of them?

3) In printed music, tremolo signs between notes (not when attached
to stems) are usually slanted, which stops them getting mixed up
with the staff lines.

I agree that there are probably tweaks for these, but I'd hope that
the defaults wouldn't need tweaking.

Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com http://www.ptoye.com

\version 2.18.0

\language english

left = \relative c' {

c1 c c c c c c c c c c c c
\repeat tremolo 16 { c 32 c,} |

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff

   \new Staff { \clef bass \left }


}

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MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
Consider the following example:

\version 2.19.3
{
  R1 |
  \tempo Tempo
  as' bes'
}

I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost 
Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to 
manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no 
avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little 
unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction?

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Re: command line option that prevents generation of midi?

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-04 22:06 GMT+02:00 Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com:

 SoundsFromSound wrote
  I'm 99.999% sure that it's not possible to do what you're after,
 /
  unless
 /
  you comment out/delete the MIDI block. I think?
 
  Are you able to comment it out or does that interfere somehow?

 Yes, I can just comment it out, or delete the midi file afterwards, so it's
 no problem.  I just thought there might be a command line option that would
 work instead.


See the last comment here:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Lilypond-compile-with-no-midi-output-td140395.html

the following command _seems_ to work:

lilypond -e (set! write-performances-midis (lambda (performances basename
. rest) 0)) piece.ly

even if I don't know what it's really doing: it just deletes the midi file?
or it really avoids the creation of the midi file?
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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com:

 Consider the following example:

 \version 2.19.3
 {
   R1 |
   \tempo Tempo
   as' bes'
 }

 I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the
 leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been
 trying to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols
 property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that
 property works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me
 in the right direction?

 DR


I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :

\version 2.19.3

{

R1 |

\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}

 % or

{

R1 |

\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3

\tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}


HTH,

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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
Well, yes, that is one option, but it’s not one I love for two reasons: 1) it’s 
kludgy, and 2) I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I’m describing by 
default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be 
just me).

DR

From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen 
drose...@gmail.commailto:drose...@gmail.com:
Consider the following example:

\version 2.19.3
{
  R1 |
  \tempo Tempo
  as' bes'
}

I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost 
Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to 
manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no 
avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little 
unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction?

DR

I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :

\version 2.19.3

{

R1 |

\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}

 % or

{

R1 |

\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3

\tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}



HTH,

Pierre

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Re: command line option that prevents generation of midi?

2014-04-05 Thread Martin Tarenskeen



On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Federico Bruni wrote:


the following command _seems_ to work:

lilypond -e (set! write-performances-midis (lambda (performances basename .
rest) 0)) piece.ly 

even if I don't know what it's really doing: it just deletes the midi file?
or it really avoids the creation of the midi file?



Interesting. This is the kind of syntax I couldn't possibly remember and 
reproduce without searching the mailing list archives or manuals.


I think I'l stick to my bash commandline and do

lilypond piece.ly  rm -f piece.midi

Two commands, and still shorter. Maybe just a little bit slower.

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Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread Noeck
Hi,

I have to write this word in the lyrics “seen-a”. This is how it’s
written as text. It should be sung on two notes (like seen -- a). But in
case the notes are close, it should remain “seen-a” and not “seena”.

Is this issue [2463][] (which is a different usecase but might be used
for this, too) or am I missing something? This should be a common
usecase for all words containing hyphens, shouldn’t it?
I had expected “seen - a” to work, but then the “-” takes up an extra
note. (And yes, “seen- a” is too ugly and not width-adapting.)

Cheers,
Joram


[2463]: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2463

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RE: Ties across voices

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Payne [mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net]
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:54 PM
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Ties across voices
 
 On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote:
  Consider the example below:
 
  \version 2.19.3
 
  \new Staff 
 \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c }
 \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q
  
  How can I tie the lower voice's c d to the upper voice's c d, c?
 
 You could use a third hidden voice:
 
 \version 2.19.3
 
 transOn = {
\override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
\override NoteHead.no-ledgers = ##t
\hide NoteHead
\hide Stem
\hide Flag
\hide Beam
\hide Dots
\hide Accidental
\hide TupletBracket
\hide TupletNumber
 }
 
 transOff = {
\revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
\revert NoteHead.no-ledgers
\revert NoteHead.transparent
\revert Stem.transparent
\revert Beam.transparent
\revert Flag.transparent
\revert Dots.transparent
\revert Accidental.transparent
\revert TupletBracket.transparent
\revert TupletNumber.transparent
 }
 
 \new Staff 
\new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ c d, c }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo c d8 q }
\new Voice \relative c' { \voiceThree \transOn s8 c_~ d^~ q }  
 

Aha! I was doing something similar to this without adding a third voice; the 
addition of \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t (I didn't even know 
that property existed) makes it work now:

\version 2.19.3
\new Staff 
   \new Voice \relative c'' {
 \voiceOne c4~ \oneVoice c d, c
   }
   \new Voice \relative c' {
 \voiceTwo c d8 q~
 \oneVoice \once \omit Stem \once \hideNotes
 \once \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
 q4
   }


Thanks!

DR

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Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de

To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 3:36 PM
Subject: Hyphen in a lyrics word



Hi,

I have to write this word in the lyrics “seen-a”. This is how it’s
written as text. It should be sung on two notes (like seen -- a). But in
case the notes are close, it should remain “seen-a” and not “seena”.

Is this issue [2463][] (which is a different usecase but might be used
for this, too) or am I missing something? This should be a common
usecase for all words containing hyphens, shouldn’t it?
I had expected “seen - a” to work, but then the “-” takes up an extra
note. (And yes, “seen- a” is too ugly and not width-adapting.)

Cheers,
Joram


[2463]: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2463


Does http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=680 provide you with what you want?

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Automatically realize figured bass

2014-04-05 Thread Malte Meyn

Hi everybody,

a few weeks ago my father asked me whether there is a tool that 
automatically realizes figured bass (I think you say “realize” for the 
act of composing the right hand accompaniment, don’t you?). I didn’t 
know such a tool, so I wrote a simple one in Haskell but this wasn’t 
clever enough (worked only under certain preconditions, used 
backtracking instead of something faster, didn’t weight solutions by 
their “goodness”, etc.). But now I have several ideas how to improve 
such a tool (represent chords as vertices in a graph, edges are weighted 
(unison/octave parallels get a very high score etc.), then find the best 
solution using the Dijsktra or Bellman-Ford wayfinding algorithm, …).


I don’t know whether such a tool could be implemented in LilyPond itself 
(as an engraver?) or it would be better to write a separate program 
(like lilypond-book/musicxml2ly/…). In the latter case, I think we would 
be relatively free in the choice of a programming language ;)


The german LilyPond forum doesn’t seem to be very interested in such a 
project yet. But there are so many more LilyPonders “out there” ;) Would 
someone on this list be interested

• to use such a tool if someone implemented it?
• to implement such a tool? (knowledge of figured bass or a programming 
language would be good ;)

• Or is there already such a tool for LilyPond that I don’t know?

Cheers,
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Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:

 Hi,

 I have to write this word in the lyrics “seen-a”. This is how it’s
 written as text. It should be sung on two notes (like seen -- a). But in
 case the notes are close, it should remain “seen-a” and not “seena”.

 Is this issue [2463][] (which is a different usecase but might be used
 for this, too) or am I missing something? This should be a common
 usecase for all words containing hyphens, shouldn’t it?
 I had expected “seen - a” to work, but then the “-” takes up an extra
 note. (And yes, “seen- a” is too ugly and not width-adapting.)

Something like

\\- = \tweak minimum-distance #1 #(make-music 'HyphenEvent)
\new Lyrics \lyricmode { seen\-a }

perhaps?


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Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread Noeck
Hi Phil,

 [2463]: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2463
 
 Does http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=680 provide you with what you want?

Yes. Thank you! (while it is still a bit sad, that this is not possible
out of the box, I mean simpler.)

Cheers,
Joram

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Fermata colliding with Beam

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
\version 2.19.3
{ \stemUp a''8[ f']\fermata }

Is this a bug?

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Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread Noeck
 Something like
 
 \\- = \tweak minimum-distance #1 #(make-music 'HyphenEvent)
 \new Lyrics \lyricmode { seen\-a }

That’s already pretty cool! Thanks.

Joram

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Re: Automatically realize figured bass

2014-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de writes:

 Hi everybody,

 a few weeks ago my father asked me whether there is a tool that
 automatically realizes figured bass (I think you say “realize” for the
 act of composing the right hand accompaniment, don’t you?). I didn’t
 know such a tool, so I wrote a simple one in Haskell but this wasn’t
 clever enough (worked only under certain preconditions, used
 backtracking instead of something faster, didn’t weight solutions by
 their “goodness”, etc.). But now I have several ideas how to improve
 such a tool (represent chords as vertices in a graph, edges are
 weighted (unison/octave parallels get a very high score etc.), then
 find the best solution using the Dijsktra or Bellman-Ford wayfinding
 algorithm, …).

 I don’t know whether such a tool could be implemented in LilyPond
 itself (as an engraver?) or it would be better to write a separate
 program (like lilypond-book/musicxml2ly/…). In the latter case, I
 think we would be relatively free in the choice of a programming
 language ;)

I think an approach in LilyPond/Scheme would be nice (take a look at
GOOPS whether it could help with abstracting the stuff into classes).
The main advantage is that you can let it do figured bass on-the-fly,
and also work with \displayLilyMusic for getting back a pondable
representation.

 Would someone on this list be interested
 • to use such a tool if someone implemented it?

I don't think I usually have numbered bass material here.

-- 
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Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the 
table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web 
site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local 
copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.

 
Regards,

Peter
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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
Issue with downloaded manualsHow did you download them?  If you simply Save the 
html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals


  I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in 
the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web 
site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local 
copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

  The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com


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Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de

To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Hyphen in a lyrics word



Hi Phil,


[2463]: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2463


Does http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=680 provide you with what you 
want?


Yes. Thank you! (while it is still a bit sad, that this is not possible
out of the box, I mean simpler.)

Cheers,
Joram



The problem is you can't please all the people all the time.  Some want 
disappearing hyphens.


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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
I should also mention that aligning the MetronomeMark with the BarLine would be 
fine as a workaround for now, but I can’t figure out how to do that either.

DR

From: Daniel Rosen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:25 AM
To: 'Pierre Perol-Schneider'
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

Well, yes, that is one option, but it’s not one I love for two reasons: 1) it’s 
kludgy, and 2) I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I’m describing by 
default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be 
just me).

DR

From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen 
drose...@gmail.commailto:drose...@gmail.com:
Consider the following example:

\version 2.19.3
{
  R1 |
  \tempo Tempo
  as' bes'
}

I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost 
Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to 
manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no 
avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little 
unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction?

DR

I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :

\version 2.19.3

{

R1 |

\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}

 % or

{

R1 |

\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3

\tempo Tempo

as' bes'

}



HTH,

Pierre

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RE: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
 From: Peter Toye [mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:42 AM
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals
 
 I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in 
 the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond 
 web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the 
 local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly 
 it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.
 
 Is this meant to happen?
 
 The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Peter
 mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
 www.ptoye.com

Try downloading the doc tarball instead (stable: 
http://www.lilypond.org/download/binaries/documentation/lilypond-2.18.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2;
 unstable: 
http://www.lilypond.org/download/binaries/documentation/lilypond-2.19.3-1.documentation.tar.bz2).
 Extract, extract again, open ~/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html and navigate 
just like you would on the website. It's a lot more data to download, and it'll 
take a few minutes to extract, but it's probably the simplest way to do what 
you're asking (I won't say it's the only way since I don't know that it is).

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Toye
Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing 
the style sheet and all the images.

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the 
table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web 
site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local 
copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Holmes
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsSo it's Firefox that will be creating the 
non-relative links.  In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of 
the links.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Thanks Phil.

  I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files.

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


   How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be 
missing the style sheet and all the images.

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the 
links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the 
LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer 
to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or 
possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


Regards,

Peter
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www.ptoye.com 


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Re: Automatically realize figured bass

2014-04-05 Thread Richard Shann
Hi Malte,

Almost all my music typesetting involves typesetting figured bass, and
in addition I have created a way of realizing figured bass by playing on
a MIDI keyboard (see the demo at https://vimeo.com/62426412 ). I have
used this to create LilyPond engraved scores which a keyboard player
found adequate for playing an accompaniment.
One thing I think you would need is the ability to set the likely rate
of chord change - figured bass is an ambiguous notation even when the
figures are relatively complete (and they are rarely that) - but on the
question of whether a note is to be treated as a passing note or a
harmony note it is completely silent.

I guess you could consider using Denemo as your representation of the
data (bass notes with figures attached, and if you want to really push
the boat out, all the other notes that are being sounded at the same
time). It has a scheme interface which allows you to enquire about notes
and their durations, iterate, etc and it does have a separate data type
for the attached figures. (I noticed to my dismay that Finale when
exporting figured bass in MusicXML just exports bits of text distributed
in suggestive manner below the bass note, indistinguishable from any
other text that might be there). I have quite a large collection
(several hundred) of scores with figured bass in Denemo format (and
hence available also in LilyPond format), if they would be of use to
you. They include the entire set of Handels figured bass exercises,
which covers quite a lot of figured bass notation (these are publicly
available in the Denemo distribution itself).

HTH

Richard


On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 16:50 +0200, Malte Meyn wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 a few weeks ago my father asked me whether there is a tool that 
 automatically realizes figured bass (I think you say “realize” for the 
 act of composing the right hand accompaniment, don’t you?). I didn’t 
 know such a tool, so I wrote a simple one in Haskell but this wasn’t 
 clever enough (worked only under certain preconditions, used 
 backtracking instead of something faster, didn’t weight solutions by 
 their “goodness”, etc.). But now I have several ideas how to improve 
 such a tool (represent chords as vertices in a graph, edges are weighted 
 (unison/octave parallels get a very high score etc.), then find the best 
 solution using the Dijsktra or Bellman-Ford wayfinding algorithm, …).
 
 I don’t know whether such a tool could be implemented in LilyPond itself 
 (as an engraver?) or it would be better to write a separate program 
 (like lilypond-book/musicxml2ly/…). In the latter case, I think we would 
 be relatively free in the choice of a programming language ;)
 
 The german LilyPond forum doesn’t seem to be very interested in such a 
 project yet. But there are so many more LilyPonders “out there” ;) Would 
 someone on this list be interested
 • to use such a tool if someone implemented it?
 • to implement such a tool? (knowledge of figured bass or a programming 
 language would be good ;)
 • Or is there already such a tool for LilyPond that I don’t know?
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Automatically realize figured bass

2014-04-05 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 18:09 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
 but on the
 question of whether a note is to be treated as a passing note or a
 harmony note it is completely silent.
 
hmm, correction, late-period scores sometimes use the extender line to
do that ...

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Re: command line option that prevents generation of midi?

2014-04-05 Thread Paul Morris
fedelogy wrote
 the following command _seems_ to work:
 
 lilypond -e (set! write-performances-midis (lambda (performances basename
 . rest) 0)) piece.ly
 
 even if I don't know what it's really doing: it just deletes the midi
 file? or it really avoids the creation of the midi file?

That works for me here with 2.18, and it does seem to prevent the midi
generation rather than just delete the file after the fact.  

Thanks to you both, these are good tricks to know!
-Paul



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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Brian Barker



At 12:44 05/04/2014 +, Daniel Rosen wrote:
I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of 
the leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite).


At 14:25 05/04/2014 +, Daniel Rosen wrote:
... I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I'm describing by 
default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although 
it could be just me).


No, it's not just you.  For what it's worth, here's Elaine Gould (at page 183):

When a tempo marking coincides with a time signature indication, 
align the tempo with the left edge of the time signature.
When there is no new time signature, align the tempo marking with the 
first element of the notation (e.g. a note or accidental) after the 
clef and key signature. Note that when the tempo change is at the 
start of the bar, the marking is not placed on the barline.


Brian Barker  



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Question about FretBoards context

2014-04-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Dear All,

I'd like to understand why FretBoards context does not apply here :

\version 2.18.2

\include predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly

\score {
  \new FretBoards
  \chordmode {
\override FretBoard.fret-diagram-details.finger-code = #'in-dot
d'2 g'
  }
  \layout { }
}

\score {

  \new FretBoards

  \chordmode { d'2 g' }

  \layout {

\context {

  \FretBoards

  \override fret-diagram-details.finger-code = #'in-dot

}

  }

}


Anyone ?


Cheers,

~Pierre
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temporary polyphonic passage in Staff + TabStaff

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
I'm typesetting a two voice piece which needs a temporary third voice in
one bar only.
The problem is that I'm using Staff + TabStaff, so the following minimal
example creates an extra  staff. Comment the TabStaff block and the problem
doesn't exist.

\version 2.18.2

upper = \relative c' {
  c1
   c4 d
 \new Voice { \voiceThree g, a }
  
}

lower = \relative c {
  c1
  a2 e
}

\score {
  \new StaffGroup 
\new Staff {
  \clef treble_8
   \voiceOne \upper \\ \voiceTwo \lower 
}
%%{
\new TabStaff \with {
  \clef moderntab
} 
  \new TabVoice { \voiceOne \upper }
  \new TabVoice { \voiceTwo \lower }
%}
  
  \layout {  }
}

There's a smart way to work around this?
Or I'm forced to create a third variable full of space rests just to put
some notes of a single bar in the third voice?

I see that I tried to solve the same issue 4 years ago, but I think that
something has changed since then and I can't find a clear answer in that
thread:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-01/msg00560.html

Thanks in advance
Federico
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Re: Question about FretBoards context

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-05 21:51 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider 
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Dear All,

 I'd like to understand why FretBoards context does not apply here :

 \version 2.18.2

 \include predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly

 \score {
   \new FretBoards
   \chordmode {
 \override FretBoard.fret-diagram-details.finger-code = #'in-dot
 d'2 g'
   }
   \layout { }
 }

 \score {

   \new FretBoards

   \chordmode { d'2 g' }

   \layout {

 \context {

   \FretBoards

   \override fret-diagram-details.finger-code = #'in-dot

 }

   }

 }




Just a guess:
In \layout you can omit the context (FretBoards), but you cannot omit
FretBoard, which is the grob you want to modify:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/fretboard
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/changing-context-default-settings
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Re: temporary polyphonic passage in Staff + TabStaff

2014-04-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Federico,


2014-04-05 21:56 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com:

 I'm typesetting a two voice piece which needs a temporary third voice in
 one bar only.
 The problem is that I'm using Staff + TabStaff, so the following minimal
 example creates an extra  staff. Comment the TabStaff block and the problem
 doesn't exist.


Why not simplify your code :

upper = \relative c' {

c1



{ c4 d } \\ { g, a }



}

How's that ?
~Pierre
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Re: temporary polyphonic passage in Staff + TabStaff

2014-04-05 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-05 22:09 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider 
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Hi Federico,


 2014-04-05 21:56 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com:

 I'm typesetting a two voice piece which needs a temporary third voice in
 one bar only.
 The problem is that I'm using Staff + TabStaff, so the following minimal
 example creates an extra  staff. Comment the TabStaff block and the problem
 doesn't exist.


 Why not simplify your code :


 upper = \relative c' {

 c1

 

 { c4 d } \\ { g, a }

 

 }

 How's that ?


Hi Pierre

thank you, it's perfect.
It's what was written in the thread I linked to, but somehow I didn't get
it :(
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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Daniel Rosen
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: Daniel Rosen
 Subject: RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
 
 At 14:25 05/04/2014 +, you wrote:
 ... I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I'm describing by
 default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it
 could be just me).
 
 No, its not just you; here's Elaine Gould at page 183:
 
 When a tempo marking coincides with a time signature indication, align the
 tempo with the left edge of the time signature.
 When there is no new time signature, align the tempo marking with the first
 element of the notation (e.g. a note or accidental) after the clef and key
 signature. Note that when the tempo change is at the start of the bar, the
 marking is not placed on the barline.
 
 Brian Barker - privately

Thanks, Brian. Since you agreed with me (off-list) that this is useful 
information for the list to have, I'm forwarding it to them.

DR

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Re: the next step?

2014-04-05 Thread Nick Payne

On 05/04/14 19:56, David Kastrup wrote:

Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:


Should be easily doable in a two-column LaTeX document?

I think there are a few scripts around using pdftex for arranging PDF
files.  But it is pretty much a shame that we

a) have our page builder hardwired b) cannot nest page builders.

I've set stuff in two columns using Scribus, which since v1.4 allows 
Lilypond code to be placed in render frames. Here's an example of some 
of the Guilini right-hand exercises set in two columns:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt9jjy5im8cktok/Guilini_120_exercises.pdf

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Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-04-05 Thread Karol Majewski
This is a function written by Thomas Morley. It allows to control width and 
height of whiteout box. Now I want to modify this function to make it work like:

\dynamicTextWhiteout #'(1 . 2)

where:
  - first number is LEFT X-extent
  - second number is RIGHT X-extent

I don't need Y-extent at all.


Don't quite know how to do this. Any hints would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Karol


%%

\version 2.19.1

dynamicTextWhiteout =
#(define-music-function
  (parser location adds)
  (pair?)
  (define
(flexible-stencil-whiteout add stencil)
(let*
  ((x-ext
  (ly:stencil-extent stencil X))
(y-ext
  (ly:stencil-extent stencil Y)))
  (ly:stencil-add
(stencil-with-color
  (ly:round-filled-box
(interval-widen x-ext
  (car add))
(interval-widen y-ext
  (cdr add)) 0) green) stencil)))
  (define more-stencil-whiteout
(lambda
  (grob)
  (let*
((stil
(ly:text-interface::print grob))
  (x-ext
(ly:stencil-extent stil X))
  (y-ext
(ly:stencil-extent stil Y))
  (whiteout-stil
(flexible-stencil-whiteout adds stil)))
(ly:make-stencil
  (ly:stencil-expr whiteout-stil) x-ext y-ext
  #{
\override DynamicText.vertical-skylines = #'()
\once \override DynamicText.stencil = #more-stencil-whiteout
  #})

{
  \dynamicTextWhiteout #'(1 . 0) c'4 \f
}

%



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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-05 Thread Nick Payne

On 06/04/14 02:41, Peter Toye wrote:
Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML 
version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame 
to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than 
the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. 
This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.


Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


If it's of any use to you, I've created fully indexed and searchable PDF 
portfolios of the complete documentation sets (Learning, Notation, 
Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals). About 55Mb each:


2.18 docs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf

2.19 docs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xlxd2qbrcyoj73/lilydoc-2.19.3.pdf

You'll need Adobe Reader 9 or later in order to use them effectively - 
third party PDF readers can't cope with PDF portfolios.


Nick
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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels

Daniel, you wrote Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:44 PM

 I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the 
 leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been 
 trying to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols 
 property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property 
 works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the 
 right direction?

I think you'll find all you need to know in the following section.  You can't 
align to an accidental using this, but by using an offset from an alignment to 
the bar line anchor you may be able to achieve the positioning you want.

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/aligning-objects#using-the-break_002dalignable_002dinterface

Trevor
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Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-04-05 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-04-06 0:09 GMT+02:00 Karol Majewski karo...@wp.pl:
 This is a function written by Thomas Morley. It allows to control width and 
 height of whiteout box. Now I want to modify this function to make it work 
 like:

 \dynamicTextWhiteout #'(1 . 2)

 where:
   - first number is LEFT X-extent
   - second number is RIGHT X-extent

 I don't need Y-extent at all.


 Don't quite know how to do this. Any hints would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Karol

Hi Karol,

will have a look at it tomorrow, right now I'm overtired ...

Cheers,
  Harm

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python 2.6 in GUB Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 08:53:04AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes:
 
  David Kastrup writes:
 
  So my first impulse would be to throw out the workaround for 2.4.2 that
 
  Let's do that.
 
 Well, issue 1933
 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1933 would
 suggest that this is a bad idea.  Nothing substantially has changed
 since then.  I'm currently trying to get the TEXINPUTS stuff integrated
 into the Mingw fix to arrive back at a working lilypond-book, but of
 course it is to be hoped that moving Python forward to 2.6 might make
 that problem go away.  But it will take longer to figure that out.

Doesn't Julien have GUB with python 2.6 ready for testing?  I
would move forward on that before diving into the dark waters of
os.popen in python 2.4.  I remember bug 1933; it was really
annoying.

Cheers,
- Graham

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