> My Titanium Internet Security blocks this site as a "Dangerous Page."
Hmm. Google doesn't do any warning... Looking into the .msi file to
download, everything looks right (but I'm not the right person to
investigate such issues).
Werner
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Subject: Re: Replying to posts
From: Werner LEMBERG
Subject: Re: Replying to posts
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:19:48 +0200 (CEST)
>
>>> What about this?
>>>
>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>>>
I have added that subject to my spam filter.
Anyway have fun in blabbermouting ...
On 30.04.2016 10:17, Johan Vromans wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:00:14 +
David Linn wrote:
1) I am not David Kastrup, I am David Linn.
Hi David, good to hear from you!
5) Personal attacks against a list
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:00:14 +
David Linn wrote:
> 1) I am not David Kastrup, I am David Linn.
Hi David, good to hear from you!
> 5) Personal attacks against a list administrator (such as the ones
> launched against me for the work I done on this list and its cousins and
> their predecessor
On 16-04-28 10:05 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner,
and there are no published rules.
Of course there is a list owner. However, up to now there wasn't a
single person who stomped our nuts too hard, so to say, forcing us to
banning him or
explaining things. The fact that they, the experts, use primitive
email instruments and force me to do the same is the lesser evil
:))
g.
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On 29 April 2016 at 22:06, David Bellows wrote:
>. I know a lot of people avoid Reddit, and for very good reasons,
I think it's almost as bad a time-sink as TVTropes. Actually, Stack
sites can be too.
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And just to let people know, if anyone does want to carry on a massive
meta-discussion/RFC in a slightly more manageable form, there is a
subreddit devoted to Lilypond (which I happen to be the moderator
for): http://www.reddit.com/r/lilypond. We'd be totally fine with
having that, or any, kind of
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:14 PM Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Hi Werner,
>
> On 29 April 2016 at 14:05, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> >
> >> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner,
> >> and there are no published rules.
> >
> > Of course there is a list owner.
>
> Who, may one ask
Links to the discussion in 2014 have already been posted.
For reference, the discussion from 2012 is here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-11/msg00018.html
Joram
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Am 29.04.2016 um 12:20 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
> Since this is the longest thread in recent memory ... I wonder if we should
> consider
> using some forum type software for lilypond matters?
Mentioning that this is an extraordinarily long thread and then starting
a new subject, which led to ver
Am 29.04.2016 um 15:50 schrieb Alexander Kobel:
There's one single reason why I sometimes prefer even small code pieces
in attachments, despite the fact that I usually like to read them
inline: If there is a lone ">>" (which happens quite often in LilyPond
code, for obvious reasons), it messes
>> . Use the `reply-to-all' button so that the discussion stays on the
>> list. It is not helpful if answers are suddenly sent to
>> individuals only. Additionally, it helps to properly build up
>> e-mail threads.
>
> Remove all non-list addresses from the reply list.
No. Sometimes, peop
On 2016-04-29 12:30, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 29.04.2016 um 12:28 schrieb Federico Bruni:
Il giorno ven 29 apr 2016 alle 10:50, Simon Albrecht
ha scritto:
On 29.04.2016 10:11, Johan Vromans wrote:
. Provide a minimal working example (or a minimal not-working
example). The stress lies
Il giorno ven 29 apr 2016 alle 12:59, Johan Vromans
ha scritto:
There's some Lilypond questions on the tex StackExchange forum, and
you'll
find some on the StackOverflow too.
I have a very strong preference for one single place where all
information
lives. And I'm very happy with this mai
On 29 April 2016 at 11:59, Johan Vromans wrote:
>
> I have a very strong preference for one single place where all information
> lives. And I'm very happy with this mailing list.
Yes, although I personally find StackOverflow a far better way of
asking, answering and recalling questions, there's a
On 29/04/2016 11:59, Johan Vromans wrote:
>There's some Lilypond questions on the tex StackExchange forum, and you'll
>find some on the StackOverflow too.
I have a very strong preference for one single place where all information
lives. And I'm very happy with this mailing list.
+1 for good o
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:45:12 +0100
Chris Yate wrote:
> There's some Lilypond questions on the tex StackExchange forum, and you'll
> find some on the StackOverflow too.
I have a very strong preference for one single place where all information
lives. And I'm very happy with this mailing list.
T
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:20:12 +1000
Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > ... but since [David] is the list owner he's to decide.
>
> Is he? We do not know.
An other branch of this discussion tree indicates so.
> Werner’s guidelines are only one personal view and suggestion, and
> they have not been ‘vot
Il giorno ven 29 apr 2016 alle 12:20, Andrew Bernard
ha scritto:
I wonder if we should consider
using some forum type software for lilypond matters? The mailing list
has a flat structure, and I have long thought that we ought to have a
separate area for Scheme topics, Guile topics, installation
On 29 April 2016 at 11:20, Andrew Bernard wrote:
>
> Since this is the longest thread in recent memory - interesting
> because it is a meta-thread really - I wonder if we should consider
> using some forum type software for lilypond matters?
There's some Lilypond questions on the tex StackExchang
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:30:25 +0200
Urs Liska wrote:
> I think this needs some clarification:
>
> Inserting *code* examples within the text is usually very good for
> communication. I think the suggested ban on inline examples referred to
> *images*
Too often I encounter code samples in mail bod
Am 29.04.2016 um 12:28 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> Il giorno ven 29 apr 2016 alle 10:50, Simon Albrecht
> ha scritto:
>> On 29.04.2016 10:11, Johan Vromans wrote:
>> >
>> >>. Provide a minimal working example (or a minimal not-working
>> >> example). The stress lies on *minimal*. This s
Il giorno ven 29 apr 2016 alle 10:50, Simon Albrecht
ha scritto:
On 29.04.2016 10:11, Johan Vromans wrote:
>
>>. Provide a minimal working example (or a minimal not-working
>> example). The stress lies on *minimal*. This shows us that
you
>> have at least tried to look into the
Hi Johan,
On 29 April 2016 at 18:11, Johan Vromans wrote:
> Well done. Now if David would be so kind to add this as the new subcribers
> welcome message. I have some remarks, but since he is the list owner he's
> to decide.
Is he? We do not know.
> Well done, Werner!
>
Werner’s guidelines are
Am 29.04.2016 um 10:11 schrieb Johan Vromans:
>> . Use the `reply-to-all' button so that the discussion stays on the
>> > list. It is not helpful if answers are suddenly sent to
>> > individuals only. Additionally, it helps to properly build up
>> > e-mail threads.
> Remove all no
On 29.04.2016 10:11, Johan Vromans wrote:
. Provide a minimal working example (or a minimal not-working
example). The stress lies on *minimal*. This shows us that you
have at least tried to look into the manual before asking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_Working_
> On 29 Apr 2016, at 06:26, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to
>>> locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default.
>>
>> What about this?
>>
>> http:/
Werner LEMBERG writes:
> [David, please have a look to this e-mail.]
>
>
>> > Of course there is a list owner.
>>
>> Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive
>> discussion?
>
> Ah, bad wording of mine. `List owner' is too big a word; the list was
> automatically creat
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:05:49 +0200 (CEST)
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> In general, the list netiquette is quite simple. Here's a small,
> probably incomplete list.
Well done. Now if David would be so kind to add this as the new subcribers
welcome message. I have some remarks, but since he is the lis
From: Werner LEMBERG
Subject: Re: Replying to posts
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:19:48 +0200 (CEST)
>
>>> What about this?
>>>
>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>>>
>>> I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite pro
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>
>> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to
>> locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default.
>
> What about this?
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>
> I'm not an
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > contributors in my local filtering rules, and seriously consider
> > both exiting the list and ceasing to use LilyPond entirely.
>
> Exiting the list I can understand, but ceasing to use? Tsk, tsk,
> tsk :-)
If I were going to only ever use the softw
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Subject: Re: Replying to posts
> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to locate
> the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default.
What about this?
http://home.in.
>> What about this?
>>
>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>>
>> I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is
>> actively maintained)!
>
> Really? Runs on NT4 up to XP. Support up to Outlook 2003. That's
> moribund by any standard, surely?
Oops! I've mi
On Apr 29, 2016, at 12:20 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> On 29 April 2016 at 13:48, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
>> Most mailing lists send a copy of the rules with the "welcome e-mail" that
>> is sent someone subscribes to the list. It's been long enough that I don't
>> remember what t
>> . Stay polite and avoid ad-hominem attacks.
>
> Is that a real rule, or only what we wish were a rule?
Actively managing a mailing list is work. AFAIK, no-one is taking
care of that, see my other mail.
So yes, currently it is a wish.
> I've seldom seen more ad hominem on any list than I
Hi Werner,
On 29 April 2016 at 14:45, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
> What about this?
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>
> I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is
> actively maintained)!
>
Really? Runs on NT4 up to XP. Support up to Outlook 2003. Th
[David, please have a look to this e-mail.]
> > Of course there is a list owner.
>
> Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive
> discussion?
Ah, bad wording of mine. `List owner' is too big a word; the list was
automatically created for the lilypond team by the Savan
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> . Stay polite and avoid ad-hominem attacks.
Is that a real rule, or only what we wish were a rule? I've seldom seen
more ad hominem on any list than I routinely see on this one, and it has
caused me to both block a couple of regular contributors in m
Hi Mark,
The issue of top posting surely in and of itself generates massive
flame wars. It is by no means agreed upon. Business (and so Outlook)
generally uses top posting. Internet groups often do not.
Werner's list is just a suggestion. There's no rule about top, bottom,
or interleaved posting
> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to
> locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default.
What about this?
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is
actively maintained)!
our kind attention.
Mark Stephen Mrotek
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On Behalf Of Werner LEMBERG
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:06 PM
To: andrew.bern...@gmail.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Replying to p
Hi Tim,
On 29 April 2016 at 13:48, Tim McNamara wrote:
> Most mailing lists send a copy of the rules with the "welcome e-mail" that is
> sent someone subscribes to the list. It's been long enough that I don't
> remember what the one I received said on the topic.
I just checked with a new sub
Hi Werner,
On 29 April 2016 at 14:05, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner,
>> and there are no published rules.
>
> Of course there is a list owner.
Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive discussion?
> In gene
> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner,
> and there are no published rules.
Of course there is a list owner. However, up to now there wasn't a
single person who stomped our nuts too hard, so to say, forcing us to
banning him or her from the list.
In general, the list
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote:
>
> The whole reason I began this thread was to ask if there may be some
> simple way we could post the code of conduct/guidelines/policy for the
> mailing list so that people could be made aware of it. Nobody has
> addressed that simple poin
On 29 April 2016 at 12:18, Gilles wrote:
> People here have given reasons that can translate into (implicit) rules.
> Another (meta-)rule is to behave the same way as others do (e.g. looking
> at the archives could give hints as to what is the norm).
The whole reason I began this thread was to
Hi Gilles,
I don't think there is any such for this list. Is there?
Andrew
On 29 April 2016 at 12:18, Gilles wrote:
>
> List owner/adminstrator/moderator: ie. someone who has the privilege to
> unsubscribe other people.
>
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:40:09 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
Hi Gilles,
As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, and
there are no published rules.
List owner/adminstrator/moderator: ie. someone who has the privilege to
unsubscribe other people.
People here have given rea
Hi Gilles,
As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, and there are
no published rules.
Andrew
On 27/04/2016, 10:05 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Gilles"
wrote:
>If, out of lazyness, the latter plainly ignore the rules aimed at
>conveying more information than no
This thread gets better and better!
I'm subscribed to 2 maling lists in gnu.org: lilypond & org-mode...
At this point in time I cannot distinguish to which of the two this
thread belongs to.
“Organize your life in plain text!”
“Organize your music in plain text!”
Cheers.
On 28 April 2016 at 16
On 28/04/2016 15:18, Johan Vromans wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:43:34 +0100
Steve Downes wrote:
4) it doesn't go out of date due to format change
Although not related to email per se, this is the strongest argument to
always use the simplest data format that can represent the information.
Hi,
> for *my* use case, it probably really IS NOT an improvement!
> I've never used it, never tried it, never had any desire to.
That was me — almost verbatim — about two years ago.
Now I’m kicking myself for having waited so long.
YMMV.
Best,
Kieren.
Kieren M
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:43:34 +0100
Steve Downes wrote:
> 4) it doesn't go out of date due to format change
Although not related to email per se, this is the strongest argument to
always use the simplest data format that can represent the information.
On 4/28/16 6:26 AM, "Wols Lists" wrote:
>On 28/04/16 12:43, Chris Yate wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Shiny" isn't necessarily "improved" but they're not mutually
>> exclusive. Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in
>> the User Interface for Lilypond development?
>>
>Horses for courses -
I cannot understand why anybody uses html (except their software point
them at it) I decided 20 years ago when word processors were coming in
with various formats that I would always use plain text unless there
was a strong reason not to because:-
1) it took less storage
2) it travelled faster
3)
Am 28. April 2016 14:08:41 MESZ, schrieb Chris Yate :
>On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the
>User
>> > Interface for Lilypond development?
>>
>> No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well,
On 28/04/16 12:43, Chris Yate wrote:
> On 27 April 2016 at 19:25, Anthonys Lists wrote:
>>
>> And the reality is, most people HERE, including the most important ones! use
>> simple, plain-text, email clients.
>> There's a reason why Outlook Lusers are not welcome on most mailing lists,
>> and th
> For that, you want Visual Studio...
Pfft. You are probably not aware that it is not possible to compile
lilypond under Windows currently...
It would be great if you could improve that.
Werner
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On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote:
>
>
> > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User
> > Interface for Lilypond development?
>
> No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for
> all those guys and ladies who like IDEs), but for lilypond
On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote:
>
>
> > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User
> > Interface for Lilypond development?
>
> No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for
> all those guys and ladies who like IDEs), but for lilypond
> Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User
> Interface for Lilypond development?
No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for
all those guys and ladies who like IDEs), but for lilypond
*development* you certainly don't need it.
Werner
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Am 28.04.2016 um 13:43 schrieb Chris Yate:
> Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in
> the User Interface for Lilypond development?
Oh, just wait for the flame wars when we announce that we finally
provide tools for graphically tweaking slurs in Frescobaldi ;-)
_
On 27 April 2016 at 19:25, Anthonys Lists wrote:
>
> And the reality is, most people HERE, including the most important ones! use
> simple, plain-text, email clients.
> There's a reason why Outlook Lusers are not welcome on most mailing lists,
> and that's because the result is incomprehensible,
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:01:48 +0200
From: David Kastrup
To: Chris Yate
Cc: Gianmaria Lari , Lilypond-User Mailing
List
Subject: Re: Replying to posts
Message-ID: <871t5r2u3n@fencepost.gnu.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Chris Yate writes:
> To be honest, I'd sugg
On 27.04.2016 14:10, lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote:
(now I use the neo layout but that's somewhat special ...)
Me too! And I find it perfect for LilyPond code.
Best, Simon
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Rafael Ramirez Morales <
rafael.ramirezmora...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everybody.
>
> This has been one of the funniest fla
Thanks everybody.
This has been one of the funniest flames in recent memory.
Funny because a benign "do not use HTML mail" hits the fan at warp speed.
Funny, because we are talking about LilyPond users here:
Many non-technical end users, maybe transitioning from
WYSIWYG/point-click to WYSIWYM.
M
On 27/04/2016 12:35, N. Andrew Walsh wrote:
With all due respect, considerate is as considerate does. Shouting
and screaming because you use some obscure tool that doesn't work
the way 99% of the internet messaging tools in use work, and
expect people to be accommodating of you,
On Wed 27 Apr 2016, Chris Yate wrote:
> To be honest, I'd suggest you ignore the people that whinge about HTML
> emails, top-posting, etc. For the 20-something years I've been using the
> internet there's always been pedantic arses on mailing lists that would
> rather beat people up about the form
...persistently...
the world has moved on, my computer changes my words without asking me.
Am 27.04.2016 14:51, schrieb Christoph Friedrich:
... only the Swiss persistingly deny to use it:-)
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Am 27.04.2016 14:35, schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable
capitulation to the masses by abandoning the venerable "ß".
Well, the `ß' character is not abandonded at all in Germany and
Austria! Only th
> Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable
> capitulation to the masses by abandoning the venerable "ß".
Well, the `ß' character is not abandonded at all in Germany and
Austria! Only the rules have changed when to use it.
Werner
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Subject: Re: Replying to posts
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:01:41 +0100
> On 27 Apr 2016 12:40 pm, "N. Andrew Walsh" wrote:
>>>
>>> In german we have a saying:
>>> "Leute fresst Scheisse. Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren."
&g
"special"? I'll show you special. I have a Maltron split-layout keyboard,
with a switch on the underside to change between the "normal" German QWERTZ
layout and the custom one Maltron designed for themselves to be ergonomic
(in which the home row is ANISF -- DTHORÄ, the numeric keypad is in between
Am 2016-04-27 14:01, schrieb Chris Yate:
On 27 Apr 2016 12:40 pm, "N. Andrew Walsh"
wrote:
In german we have a saying:
"Leute fresst Scheisse. Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren."
Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable capitulation
to
the masses by abandoning the vener
Am 2016-04-27 13:39, schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
In german we have a saying:
"Leute fresst Scheisse. Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren."
Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable capitulation
to
the masses by abandoning the venerable "ß".
*goes back to the popcorn*
I can o
Hello.
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:44:39 +0200 (CEST), Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, David Kastrup wrote:
Looks like I'm no longer welcome on this list. I'll unsubscribe and
leave it to the people who understand the medium better.
I assume that I'm more welcome on the developer li
On 27 Apr 2016 12:40 pm, "N. Andrew Walsh" wrote:
>>
>> In german we have a saying:
>> "Leute fresst Scheisse. Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren."
>
> Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable capitulation to
the masses by abandoning the venerable "ß".
What character set is thi
...to be clear
I understand not everyone uses the same tools and we have different needs.
The thing that tends to rile me is the tone of the complaints.
When it's a legitimate matter of doing things to cooperate with list
software, that's absolutely reasonable. When it's somebody's deeply held
an
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, David Kastrup wrote:
Looks like I'm no longer welcome on this list. I'll unsubscribe and
leave it to the people who understand the medium better.
I assume that I'm more welcome on the developer list. People there are
more likely to get along with conveying messages usin
>
> In german we have a saying:
> "Leute fresst Scheisse. Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren."
>
Now I'm going to start an argument about your deplorable capitulation to
the masses by abandoning the venerable "ß".
*goes back to the popcorn*
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>
> With all due respect, considerate is as considerate does. Shouting and
> screaming because you use some obscure tool that doesn't work the way 99%
> of the internet messaging tools in use work, and expect people to be
> accommodating of you, isn't considerate.
>
Well, here's the part where I f
2016-04-27 13:13 GMT+02:00 Chris Yate :
> Shouting and
> screaming because you use some obscure tool that doesn't work the way 99% of
> the internet messaging tools in use work, and expect people to be
> accommodating of you, isn't considerate.
>
> Chris
In german we have a saying:
"Leute fresst
On 27 Apr 2016 12:04, "Andrew Bernard" wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Although I started this thread, it was purely because David Wright had
mentioned the difficulty to another user, as he had to me. I am not the one
complaining! Wanting to be considerate of all folks on the list I took some
effort to c
Il giorno mer 27 apr 2016 alle 12:30, Chris Yate
ha scritto:
On the other hand, if one is still using Pine for reading email, I
think it's their own fault if they can't read a message. The world
has moved on, and so should our tools.
"The world has moved on" doesn't sound like a good argument
Hi David,
Nothing could be further from the truth. Please refer to my reply posted to Mr
Yate posted this very minute.
I must say that after seeing the reponse to this thread I started I myself was
considering unsubscribing. Dear me.
Andrew
On 27/04/2016, 9:01 PM, "lilypond-user on behal
Hi Chris,
Although I started this thread, it was purely because David Wright had
mentioned the difficulty to another user, as he had to me. I am not the one
complaining! Wanting to be considerate of all folks on the list I took some
effort to configure my Outlook in Office 365 to produce the co
Chris Yate writes:
> To be honest, I'd suggest you ignore the people that whinge about HTML
> emails, top-posting, etc. For the 20-something years I've been using
> the internet there's always been pedantic arses on mailing lists that
> would rather beat people up about the format of emails and p
> The list is plain text only. So if you use a mailer like Outlook and your
default is to send HTML format mail,
> you need to configure Outlook to reply to email in the format in which it
was sent, that is, here, plain text.
> Then list users will get properly formatted plain text replies with
int
Am 27.04.2016 um 12:17 schrieb Chris Yate:
> To be honest, I'd suggest you ignore the people that whinge about HTML
> emails, top-posting, etc. For the 20-something years I've been using
> the internet there's always been pedantic arses on mailing lists that
> would rather beat people up about th
> The reality is that the world, given the ubiquity of broadband and
graphical interfaces, has moved on from plain text.
> It is no longer the standard and has not been for a decade or more- most
Internet users have, I suspect, no knowledge
> of this old standard any longer. Expecting others to ac
p key make the digest message more ugly, longer and difficult
to read. I never complained but I personally think they should be avoided.
My two cents...
g.
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> On 25/04/16 23:48, J Martin Rushton wrote:
>> Your comments about broadband being ubiquitous are unfounded. Even
>> where broadband is claimed, plenty of people still struggle on with
>> around 1Mb/s. Using BT in the south east of England we only get 1.6
>> Mb/s and I don't
Am 26.04.2016 01:16, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hello all,
keep the fancy stuff for when it's needed.
Like PGP? ;)
Regards,
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
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‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
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On 25/04/16 23:48, J Martin Rushton wrote:
> Your comments about broadband being ubiquitous are unfounded. Even
> where broadband is claimed, plenty of people still struggle on with
> around 1Mb/s. Using BT in the south east of England we only get 1.6
> Mb/s and I don't appreciate sitting and wai
Hello all,
> keep the fancy stuff for when it's needed.
Like PGP? ;)
Regards,
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
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On 25/04/16 13:39, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:00 AM, Andrew Bernard
> mailto:andrew.bern...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> In a recent post David Wright asks of a user:
>>
>>> Please configure your client to post
Actually, I'm more inclined to agree with you (I *despise*
overly-HTML-formatted email, even though I use gmail, because even with a
good fontconfig setup it looks like garbage). I was, rather, expressing
some enthusiasm that we're a community that has intensive discussions about
stuff like this, w
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