Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread bart deruyter
Hi, I really like what you did too, but I share the worries I read in this thread as well. I've tried the dutch translation and it is clear that is auto-translated. My main language is Dutch I find it almost unreadable in Dutch. My main issue with the current lilypond website is that it is not

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Paul
On 11/29/2016 01:19 PM, Karlin High wrote: On 11/29/2016 11:41 AM, Paul wrote: The recently revamped Guile website now uses Haunt: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/ Really! Yes: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2016-11/msg6.html and also the GNU GUIX website:

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 1:30 PM, Paul wrote: > On 11/29/2016 01:19 PM, Karlin High wrote: > >> On 11/29/2016 11:41 AM, Paul wrote: >>> The recently revamped Guile website now uses Haunt: >>> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/ >> Really! > > Yes: >

Re: Unfolding percents in score only

2016-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-11-27 19:11 GMT+01:00 Garrett Fitzgerald : > As far as I can tell, short of writing tagged sections, there's no way to > easily unfold only percents, while leaving voltas intact. Would this be a > desirable behavior for Lilypond to have? > > My particular use case is

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
I am trying to build the lilypond docs now. As for content, all of the text on the demo site is copy and pasted straight from lilypond.org. The only new text I wrote was the text on the front page that said "Many choose LilyPond. will you?" On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Noeck

Re: Unfolding percents in score only

2016-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-11-29 23:46 GMT+01:00 Garrett Fitzgerald : > I'll try that out. Thanks! Should I have been able to find this somewhere, > or did you just code it? I obviously need to learn Scheme sometime I just coded it, but based on the existing code for unfold-repeats,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Noeck
Hi John, > I am trying to build the lilypond docs now. I am happy to see you working through it > As for content, all of the text on the > demo site is copy and pasted straight from lilypond.org. The only > new text I wrote was the text on the front page that said "Many choose > LilyPond. will

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 4:42 PM, John Roper wrote: > I am trying to build the lilypond docs now. Very good! Chances of the new website project being accepted seem much higher if you can figure out how that works, and not greatly upset the existing workflow for maintaining documentation and translations.

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
Not at my computer right now, but when I went to run make website in the Documentation folder, I got an error that said there was not target to make omp something. On Nov 29, 2016 3:44 PM, "Karlin High" wrote: > On 11/29/2016 10:22 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > And, maybe

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 17:20:51 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 16:10:00 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > >> David Wright writes: > >> > >> > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:37:21 (+0100), David

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Paul
On 11/29/2016 03:47 PM, John Roper wrote: Not at my computer right now, but when I went to run make website in the Documentation folder, I got an error that said there was not target to make omp something. Hi John, You need to be in the 'lilypond-git/build' directory (aka:

Re: Creating marginal comments?

2016-11-29 Thread Gerdau, Michael
> and LilyPond can’t even handle multiple columns on one page, so you’d I may have a wrong perception as to what you mean by "multiple columns". For my own uses I regularly create scores (and texts) that span multiple columns and are aligned like a table. There actually are several ways to do

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 10:22 AM, David Kastrup wrote: And, maybe wait for further suggestions from someone with actual experience in this area. The problem is that John may wait a long time then since a lot of stuff these days is maintained on autopilot by people with confined knowledge about the code

Re: Creating marginal comments?

2016-11-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 29.11.2016 13:02, tapani wrote: I am producing a hymnal, using Lilypond and lilypond-book with xelatex. I would like to insert biblical references in the margin of the page, parallel with the lyrics. For example, in "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing", the lyrics "Ris'n with healing in his wings"

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Phil Holmes
Have a look at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/compiling-with-lilydev and run make website from your build directory. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: John Roper To: Karlin High Cc: David Kastrup ; LilyPond-User list Sent: Tuesday,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Noeck
Dear John, tl;dr: I like it. Most of the following is said already. welcome to this list and LilyPond! There are so many mails in this thread now. Therefore I try to keep it short. - This discussion comes up about once a year (-> archives) - I think I started one of those, so I am in favour

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Johan Vromans
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:38:32 +0100 (CET), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > As David K. pointed out, > it must be viewable and navigatable by blind people. As I wrote, there are some aspects that need to be solved. I just do not reject a potential valuable approach beforehand. >

RE: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello John, Firstly, welcome to the lilypond community. Since you asked for comments, I feel compelled to reply. While what you have done is fine, I admit to being very surprised that you have made some considerable effort off your own bar without, as far as I know, any communication or

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
OK. This was an idea that I had that I thought I'd share with you. My overall plan was that the website looks old and could use a redesign. I did it in WordPress because that is what I thought would be easiest for you, especially for things like the news and blog. Technically we could get a site

RE: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Johan, Last time I looked lilypond was part of the GNU project and it is open source software. It does not therefore participate or compete in commercial markets and it is not intended to. So you make a point that is difficult to understand. If however you are discussing expanding the

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> As David K. pointed out, it must be viewable and navigatable by >> blind people. > > As I wrote, there are some aspects that need to be solved. I just > do not reject a potential valuable approach beforehand. Nobody does that. You are inferring this. >> Additionally, it must be possible

Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?

2016-11-29 Thread Peter Toye
I an trying to typeset a score with two different rehearsal mark sequences. The snippet below gives interesting results! Not only the error messages: D:/Peter/Music/Lilypond/Bugs/Fingering font.ly:9:22: warning: Two simultaneous mark events, junking this one c1| \mark #20

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > I have thought about the no scripts idea, and I belive that right now, > there are not many websites that do not use javascript for some > functionality. We have several blind users reading and writing on this mailing list alone. Text browsers tend

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 29 nov 2016 alle 11:01, Johan Vromans ha scritto: Additionally, it must be possible to build the documentation of lilypond with `make doc'. As discussed, this can be solved by separating the site and the documentation. Sure. It seems weird that this

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Johan Vromans
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:45:12 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > Additionally there has been *very strict* opposition to anything other > than statically served sites for lilypond.org in the past. Not all of > the reasons are bullet-proof but most are, and you will not get consent >

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Kevin Barry
> Last time I looked lilypond was part of the GNU project and it is open > source software. It does not therefore participate or compete in commercial > markets and it is not intended to. So you make a point that is difficult to > understand. I don't think the GNU project has any rules about

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans writes: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:38:32 +0100 (CET), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> As David K. pointed out, >> it must be viewable and navigatable by blind people. > > As I wrote, there are some aspects that need to be solved. I just do not > reject

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29.11.2016 um 11:25 schrieb Federico Bruni: > What John did can be easily done with a static site generator, which > would have many more chances to get accepted by LilyPond developers. One point that hasn't been raised in *this* thread is that using any CMS on the donated web space we have

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:26:17 (+), Karlin High wrote: >> On 11/28/2016 2:12 PM, David Wright wrote: >> > So it should be worth booting from a live linux CD to mount the >> > partitions to check their contents, and to reinstall Grub >> > (or

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Additionally there has been *very strict* opposition to anything >> other than statically served sites for lilypond.org in the past. >> Not all of the reasons are bullet-proof but most are, and you will >> not get consent for anything else. > > If the web site must be cast in stone, then

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: We then would need someone who is doing the job to set this up and convert the old stuff to the new one. However, this isn't a trivial task and it probably takes a long time to get it right, so we need someone who has a lot of endurance and

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Urs Liska
Hi John, having read through a whole night of posts on this topic I'd be thankful if you could always reply inline (and possibly delete content you're not referring to). It's very hard to see what you are replying to right now. Thanks Urs PS: I'm happy to see the direction of this

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
Also, the nice thing about this new design is that it is fully responsive. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Chris Yate wrote: > On 30 Nov 2016 01:00, "Tim McNamara" wrote: > > > > > > > The cosmetic appearance of the web site is most certainly an

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Chris Yate
Having now looked at it, though only on my phone, I quite like it. But I did have to scroll scroll scroll to read what would be about one page of content. What I saw was a very "sexy" marketing site for Lilypond, and I think it does it justice. However, as someone already sold on the tool, all I

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
My goal for this new version is just to give the existing site a pick-me-up but keep it with the same layout so that all the same perks apply. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Bernard

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
The demo homepage on the site is fully working. All links are correct (except the navbar). On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:50 PM, John Roper wrote: > I just checked the website using lynx, and it renders perfectly in a > text-based browser as well! > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > If however you are discussing expanding the mindshare of lilypond in the > music publishing world, then I hardly think the cosmetic appearance of a > website is the most influential factor. That's a very shallow

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
The issues are all fixed. This is my proposal. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:32 PM, John Roper wrote: > Also, the nice thing about this new design is that it is fully responsive. > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Chris Yate wrote: > >> On 30 Nov 2016

New lilypond website - documentation

2016-11-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello All, Since the website has suddenly come up again as a topic, while I disagree with a lot of the talk here, allow me for once to say something positive. Concerning the documentation on the website, this has always been a good idea because it is indexed by search engines – I often find it

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
I just checked the website using lynx, and it renders perfectly in a text-based browser as well! On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:43 PM, John Roper wrote: > The issues are all fixed. This is my proposal. > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:32 PM, John Roper >

Re: New lilypond website - documentation

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
Read the docs is based on sphinx which is python's documentation generator ( http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/1.4.9/). As for website design, the layout design is fine with me as long as it has new styling like I have done (not that I am saying that mine should be chosen). I am going to work on

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
jmroper.com/lilypond On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:58 PM, John Roper wrote: > Ok, I have updated the website. There is a little problem with the sidebar > pushing the other content down, but that is fine. My goal was to recreate > the current website using just html and css

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
Ok, I have updated the website. There is a little problem with the sidebar pushing the other content down, but that is fine. My goal was to recreate the current website using just html and css with a nicer look. It does not require any js at all. This is just a sample so almost none of the links

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Chris Yate
On 30 Nov 2016 01:00, "Tim McNamara" wrote: > > > The cosmetic appearance of the web site is most certainly an influential factor in expanding the "mindshare" of Lilypond. Completely agree. > Take me- I am a musician. I know nothing useful about C and it's variants,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
I also tested in WebbIE 4 and the site looked fine. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:23 PM, John Roper wrote: > The demo homepage on the site is fully working. All links are correct > (except the navbar). > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:50 PM, John Roper

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > OK. This was an idea that I had that I thought I'd share with you. My > overall plan was that the website looks old and could use a > redesign. I did it in WordPress because that is what I thought would > be easiest for you, especially for things like

Creating marginal comments?

2016-11-29 Thread tapani
I am producing a hymnal, using Lilypond and lilypond-book with xelatex. I would like to insert biblical references in the margin of the page, parallel with the lyrics. For example, in "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing", the lyrics "Ris'n with healing in his wings" would have "Mal. 4:2" in the margin.

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could do style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress but it can be better. On Nov 29, 2016 7:06 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > "Andrew Bernard" writes: > > > Hello John, > > > > > >

Re: unexplained shift of a note head when layout-set-staff-size is set to 16.3

2016-11-29 Thread Davide Liessi
Hi! 2016-11-29 14:43 GMT+01:00 Mojca Miklavec : > I'm experiencing a weird behaviour with the note head of g being > shifted to the left when I add > #(layout-set-staff-size 16.3) See thread starting here:

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Thiago Censi
John Roper wrote: > My overall plan was that the website looks old and could use a redesign > (...) Technically we could get a site that looks like this on almost any > static site generator. > Or provide the templates to be used with the current process. Is that a

Re: Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?

2016-11-29 Thread Peter Toye
Phil, Thanks. That's pretty good. Having them in boxes would be nice but not necessary. I'll stick with what you've given me. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Tuesday, November 29, 2016, 11:38:55 AM, you wrote: Not sure if this is what

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
I see a number of things on the current website that could be fixed even in its current form. For one, the items on the news page are all mixed up and jumbled together. On Nov 29, 2016 7:23 AM, "John Roper" wrote: > A great example of an open source project's website is

Re: request for help: huge score

2016-11-29 Thread karl
Joram: > even though that was not the OP's intention to get a collection of > beautiful LilyPond scores, I'd like to express that I am impressed by > all the engravers' work. You produced really nice scores. And thanks for > sharing them with this list. I remember the Requiem by Karl, but in >

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread Chris Yate
On 29 Nov 2016 13:40, "Karlin High" wrote: > > On 11/28/2016 12:22 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > I thought the Windows EULA protested against being subjected to a VM? > > Buy a Windows full-version retail license for the virtual machine and > you should be good to go. > >

Re: Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?

2016-11-29 Thread Phil Holmes
Re: Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?Try following the links I gave. It shows how to do markup in boxes. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 12:11 PM Subject: Re:

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Thiago Censi
John Roper wrote: > A great example of an open source project's website is blender.org. It > has an excellent design and it gives you all the information you need to > know. The old version of their website can be found on archive.blender.org > Nice new layout too. And

unexplained shift of a note head when layout-set-staff-size is set to 16.3

2016-11-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi, I'm experiencing a weird behaviour with the note head of g being shifted to the left when I add #(layout-set-staff-size 16.3) The source code is below and the image is in attachment. I tried some using other numeric values, but none of those I tried leads to the same problem. Without

Re: Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?

2016-11-29 Thread Phil Holmes
Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?Not sure if this is what you want, but is a simple way: \relative c'' { c1 | c \mark \markup \center-column { "A" " " "B" } | c } See http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=735 and http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=736 -- Phil Holmes

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
"Andrew Bernard" writes: > Hello John, > > > > Firstly, welcome to the lilypond community. > > > > Since you asked for comments, I feel compelled to reply. While what > you have done is fine, I admit to being very surprised that you have > made some considerable

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Thiago Censi
I am new here, but I leave my 2 cents nonetheless. I really like the site that John built, and I agree with his approach. If he asked what the community felt about building a new website, he maybe wouldn't get to build it. And he is just asking for opinions ;-) As for accessibility, I believe it

Re: Is there any way of getting multiple rehearsal marks?

2016-11-29 Thread Peter Toye
Phil, Thanks - worked it out! Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Tuesday, November 29, 2016, 12:17:25 PM, you wrote: Try following the links I gave. It shows how to do markup in boxes. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From:

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread John Roper
A great example of an open source project's website is blender.org. It has an excellent design and it gives you all the information you need to know. The old version of their website can be found on archive.blender.org On Nov 29, 2016 7:15 AM, "Thiago Censi" wrote: > I am new

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Gerdau, Michael
Hi John, welcome to the pond. My first impression of your site is positive. I like the optical appearance. However I share many concerns that already have been voiced: - I usually surf w/o any scripting allowed. Thus I see nothing at all. - After allowing scripts from your domain stuff starts

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/28/2016 12:22 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > I thought the Windows EULA protested against being subjected to a VM? Buy a Windows full-version retail license for the virtual machine and you should be good to go. Windows 10 EULA (2)(d)(iv): *Use in a virtualized environment.* This license

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Chris Yate
On 29 Nov 2016 01:33, "John Roper" wrote: > > I have thought about the no scripts idea, and I belive that right now, there are not many websites that do not use javascript for some functionality. Wordpress it's self is almost entirely built upon javascript and php and it

Re; New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Alexander Kobel
Cheers, (Cross-posting from bug-lilypond to avoid flooding of the bug list with discussion about general website design; especially the last paragraph might or not might not be interesting for the current discussion.) On 2016-11-29 15:29, Erik Ronström wrote: [...] While the old site may

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 4:47 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > But I would much more like to see it created by a static site generator, in a > system where the content can be managed as a Git repository. I did a Google serach for "texinfo website generator." Here's one that reminds me of the LilyPond way of doing

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:37:21 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: >> >> My father is living away several hours and is not technically savvy. >> The system boots into some sort of maintenance mode, so making a disk >> image via dd via phone

accidentals.sharp.slashslash.stem

2016-11-29 Thread Emrecan
Hello, We use lilypond 2.18.2 in makam.ly there is KOMA SHARP (1/9 . "accidentals.sharp.slashslash.stem") We wright "fc" for F-koma-sharp. If there is F-naturel before F-koma-sharp, we haven't any probleme. Double slash and one stem. But, if there is F-Sharp before F-koma-sharp, we have a

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Erik Ronström
Hi, While the new site may give a ”nicer” or more ”friendly” impression (depending on taste), I actually found it much harder to use, especially on a laptop screen where vertical space is limited: scrolling is needed for almost every action. While the old site may not be the most beautiful

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:37:21 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:26:17 (+), Karlin High wrote: > >> On 11/28/2016 2:12 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> > So it should be worth booting from a live linux CD to mount the >

Development manuals. Was: Re; New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Alexander Kobel" To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:01 PM Subject: Re; New LilyPond website Cheers, (Cross-posting from bug-lilypond to avoid flooding of the bug list with discussion about

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
Tim McNamara writes: >> On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > >> If however you are discussing expanding the mindshare of lilypond in the >> music publishing world, then I hardly think the cosmetic appearance of a >> website is the

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> jmroper.com/lilypond Nice! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 16:10:00 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:37:21 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >> My father is living away several hours and is not technically savvy. > >> The system boots into some sort

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 6:13 AM, John Roper wrote: > > Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could > do style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress but it can > be better. > Possible starting points: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/website-work

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
Another issue: If there's any need to revert the computer to the prior version of Windows, there is limited time to do this. In the upgrade, Windows makes a backup of the prior version that eventually gets wiped out. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/rollback-windows-10-after-30-days With a drive

Re: Development manuals. Was: Re; New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Alexander Kobel
(Bcc'ing bug-lilypond now. What a useful feature! ;-)) On 2016-11-29 16:18, Phil Holmes wrote: [...] In fact, I tend to be confused about the different layout and sectioning of the manual pages for stable and unstable. Now suddenly I wonder whether in the long run it would be a good idea to

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 11/29/2016 6:13 AM, John Roper wrote: >> >> Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could >> do style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress but it can >> be better. >> > > Possible starting points: >

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 11/29/2016 02:39 AM, David Kastrup wrote: We have several blind users reading and writing on this mailing list alone. Text browsers tend to do a rather bad job at getting scripted pages rendered in a useful manner. This is no longer true. Current accessibility guidelines assume

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Shane Brandes
It was exciting to see such an ambitious model proposed for the website, however in addition to previous issues raised about accessibility etc. I would like to give you my initial impression. You may take my commentary as you see fit. I am the sort of fellow that when looking in the beer aisle

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 11:07 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Speaking as somebody with actual experience in this area (namely, > the person who created the current website): start off by > modifying the CSS file. There's even a way to do drop-down menus with nothing but CSS. https://www.grc.com/menudemo.htm

Re: Photoscore

2016-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 16:10:00 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: >> David Wright writes: >> >> > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:37:21 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: >> >> >> >> My father is living away several hours and is not

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Paul
On 11/29/2016 11:47 AM, Karlin High wrote: You're not alone in this. Here's Basecamp's Jason Fried writing in Inc. magazine. To me, it seems like an echo of LilyPond's text-centric design philosophy. "I've always found it interesting that some of the most popular sites on the Web--Amazon,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:33:25PM -0500, John Roper wrote: >I have thought about the no scripts idea, and I belive that right now, >there are not many websites that do not use javascript for some >functionality. Wordpress it's self is almost entirely built upon >javascript and php

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 11:41 AM, Paul wrote: > On 11/29/2016 10:08 AM, Karlin High wrote: >> On 11/29/2016 4:47 AM, Urs Liska wrote: >>> But I would much more like to see it created by a static site >>> generator, in a system where the content can be managed as a Git >>> repository. >> I did a Google

Re: Re; New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Erik Ronström
> In fact, I tend to be confused about the different layout and sectioning of > the manual pages for stable and unstable. Now suddenly I wonder whether in > the long run it would be a good idea to have an identical structure for > downloads, manuals, regtests etc. for stable and unstable, but

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 10:35 AM, Shane Brandes wrote: > I tend to notice first because they have words and not fancy paintings, and > therefore immediately understandable information. You're not alone in this. Here's Basecamp's Jason Fried writing in Inc. magazine. To me, it seems like an echo of

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 05:22:25PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Karlin High writes: > > > On 11/29/2016 6:13 AM, John Roper wrote: > >> > >> Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could > >> do style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Karlin High
On 11/29/2016 11:07 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Speaking as somebody with actual experience in this area (namely, the > person who created the current website): start off by modifying the > CSS file. > Again, I haven't seen his site, but 90% of the kinds of changes > that people propose for the

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 29 nov 2016 alle 13:27, John Roper ha scritto: I see a number of things on the current website that could be fixed even in its current form. For one, the items on the news page are all mixed up and jumbled together. John, if you want to start

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 05:27:03PM +, Karlin High wrote: > On 11/29/2016 11:07 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > > Speaking as somebody with actual experience in this area (namely, the > > person who created the current website): start off by modifying the > > CSS file. > > Would those be the

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-11-29 Thread Paul
On 11/29/2016 10:08 AM, Karlin High wrote: On 11/29/2016 4:47 AM, Urs Liska wrote: But I would much more like to see it created by a static site generator, in a system where the content can be managed as a Git repository. I did a Google serach for "texinfo website generator." Here's one that