Thomas David Rivers wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
provied first you acquire a compiler that converts Windows source code
to Z object code.
See http://www.dignus.com. That's a compiler that runs on Windows
and produces Z object code (even Linux/390 and/or z/Linux co
I don't think I would bother. From what I can tell, all traces of the
mainframe versions have been removed from the main Tao Linux servers. All I
see there are Intel packages. No point in going down a blind alley when
there are other choices available.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
Fro
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Little, Chris wrote:
i've tried explaining to them that the mainframe isn't a panacea,
nor is it
some miraculous supercomputer that can process more instructions
per cycle
than the aggregate computing power of our organization. alas.
Well, it *is* magic.
That's
i've tried explaining to them that the mainframe isn't a panacea, nor is it
some miraculous supercomputer that can process more instructions per cycle
than the aggregate computing power of our organization. alas.
> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> provied first you acquire a compiler that converts Windows source code
> to Z object code.
>
>
See http://www.dignus.com. That's a compiler that runs on Windows
and produces Z object code (even Linux/390 and/or z/Linux code.)
We also support ma
TAO Linux can be purchased for S390X for $7.50 + $5 S&H USD
You can get an all platform kit for $34.50 + $7 S&H USD
http://www.exofire-cd-burn.com/page14.html
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John Summerfield
Sent: Thursday, April
On Apr 20, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Stephen Frazier wrote:
The Sine Nomine deal is a DDR backup on 3480 (or other) tape of the
dasd on
which they installed Debian. To use it you need VM. You restore the
tapes using
DDR and you have a Linux guest ready to be configured. You may wish
to use APT
to apply
Well, close, but not quite correct. We provide an initial system
restorable with DDR that is used as an install server for client
systems, and tools to make that process easy. You also receive the 390
Debian distribution media as well (it's actually used to create the
install server).
Having a ru
McKown, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Thornton
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:44 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Wine on z/Linux
I do not buy the "sold a bill of goods" part.
Well, trying to be nice
Little, Chris wrote:
I would guess . . . and this is a guess that the emulation wouldn't work.
Two different architectures.
However, using the wine apis might (no experience here) allow the
compilation of software written for windows to compile on the platform.
provied first you acquire a com
The Sine Nomine deal is a DDR backup on 3480 (or other) tape of the dasd on
which they installed Debian. To use it you need VM. You restore the tapes using
DDR and you have a Linux guest ready to be configured. You may wish to use APT
to apply any maintenance that became available for Debian after
Why would you even answer the first question with only one word? That was your
mistake. Taking Adam's reply into account, that's when you should have said
"yes, but it is tremendously inefficient."
If they want to run Terminal Server, there is the Linux Terminal Server
Project
Mark Post
Yes, thank you.
Bill Pettit
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bernard Wu
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:21 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Restarting the "golden" image
Bill,
>From zVM,
IPL 100 - bring up the golden image
IPL
Every time this has come up in this forum, I point people to this article,
http://www.eosj.com/index.cfm?section=article&aid=229 (requires no-cost
registration) or the prior version at
http://www.zjournal.com/index.cfm?section=article&aid=257 that talks about Tao
Linux instead of CentOS.
and the
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Little, Chris wrote:
True conversation:
PHB: Can your mainframe Linux emulate Intel?
Chris: Yes.
PHB: So it can run Windows?
Chris (wary): Yeees..
PHB: Okay. We want to run Windws Terminal Server on an IFL and
support
8000 field users.
Chris: . . . .
T
Vic,
The SuSEconfig step did the trick. I had to ddr the LVM volumes to tape and
restore from the tapes, but now I am able to boot the instance.
Thanks to all for the help and for pointing me in the right direction to get
this job accomplished!
Loren Charnley, Jr.
IT Systems Engineer
Family Doll
True conversation:
PHB: Can your mainframe Linux emulate Intel?
Chris: Yes.
PHB: So it can run Windows?
Chris (wary): Yeees..
PHB: Okay. We want to run Windws Terminal Server on an IFL and support
8000 field users.
Chris: . . . .
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Thornton [mai
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Adam Thornton
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Wine on z/Linux
>
> I do not buy the "sold a bill of goods" part.
Well, trying to be nice, I left o
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:28 PM, McKown, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phil Tully
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:10 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Wine on z/Linux
Thank You all for the answersnow to continue
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Phil Tully
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:10 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Wine on z/Linux
>
>
> Thank You all for the answersnow to continue digging what they are
> trying t
Apparently it's very easy to write java code that is less than
efficient! You just notice it more under z because you typically look
and you typically don't have your own dedicated machines. Do you have
tools on your Java to drill down to where the application is spending
all it's time? Wily Int
Bill,
>From zVM,
IPL 100 - bring up the golden image
IPL 103 - bring up the controller
Hope this helps
Bernie Wu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Pettit
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
om>To
Sent by: Linux o
Thank You all for the answersnow to continue digging what they are
trying to dorather than just answer the question.
--
For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
Following the LPAR to Virtual Servers Redbook I completed the
installation steps of the "golden" image but did not get to immediately
continue to the next steps of applying the service before the second
level VM guest I was running on was IPL'ed, killing my LINUX00 machine.
I have been thumbing ar
It does not, and cannot. WINE relies on having an underlying Intel
system.
You would have to use BOCHS or something similar that emulates both
Windows API and Intel CPUs. It'll cost you about 1 Z CPU per Intel CPU
emulated. Not a good trade.
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
> I was asked tod
For all practical purposes I would say no, Wine does not run on z/Linux. Wine
is not an x86 emulator. It provides a method of running x86 Windows programs
on x86 Linux and Unix. It isn't useful on Z unless used with an x86 emulator.
However an x86 emulator on Z is very slow.
-Original M
Ann,
take a look at this web site:
http://www.velocity-software.com/
They seem to have a handle on Linux performance issues under VM.
DJ
Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote:
We currently are running a Weblogic POC - Weblogic 81. SP4 with SLES9
under z/VM.
The customers currently run the applications o
On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Phil Tully wrote:
I was asked today if wine emulation runs on z/Linux I haven't been
able to determine what win programs they are trying to run, I'm still
working on that.
Any info would be helpful.
It does not.
Wine runs real Windows executables, which in tu
I had it working a long time ago. Problem is that it's Windows with all
the overhead that goes with it.
Phil Tully wrote:
I was asked today if wine emulation runs on z/Linux I haven't been
able to determine what win programs they are trying to run, I'm still
working on that.
Any info would
The purpose of WINE (and it is not emulation by the way) is to run un-modified
Windows binaries on Linux. Since those binaries all contain i[3456]86 opcodes,
even if WINE were to compile and run on the mainframe, the Windows binaries
would not.
And before Adam trots out his WINE and Bochs (an
I would guess . . . and this is a guess that the emulation wouldn't work.
Two different architectures.
However, using the wine apis might (no experience here) allow the
compilation of software written for windows to compile on the platform.
My two centi-dollars.
> -Original Message-
> Fr
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Phil Tully
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:34 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Wine on z/Linux
>
>
> I was asked today if wine emulation runs on z/Linux I haven't been
> able to dete
I was asked today if wine emulation runs on z/Linux I haven't been
able to determine what win programs they are trying to run, I'm still
working on that.
Any info would be helpful.
regards
Phil Tully
--
For LINUX-390 subscr
We are running SLES8, RHEL3, and RHEL4 in our environment. No trouble with any
of them so far, although keep in mind the RHEL4 systems are new and have no
real work going on.
Jon
As an IBMer I'm supposed to be neutral about distributions. This is easy
because I feel that both SLES and RHEL
We currently are running a Weblogic POC - Weblogic 81. SP4 with SLES9
under z/VM.
The customers currently run the applications on SUN Solaris and use some
SUN java hotspot options.
Does anyone have suggestions or know where I can find doc on IBM java
options to help performance when running Weblogi
Michael,
Thank you. We are a SLES shop (specifically on the mainframe) and
without
a compelling reason to evaluate RHEL, we probably won't. That said, the
RedBook
"port" to RHEL would be interesting at least in terms of differences
between these
two major enterprise Linux distributions.
Mic
Mel,
> I haven't tried RHEL in my environment. Should I?
As an IBMer I'm supposed to be neutral about distributions. This is easy
because I feel that both SLES and RHEL are excellent distributions (as are
Debian and Slack390 I would imagine).
Often, an enterprise will make a strategic decision to
Stephen,
> When will we get a "for DEBIAN" version of this redbook? :)
Suffice it to say that is unlikely. I'm guessing the smiley implies that
the question is somewhat rhetorical.
"Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061
-
I haven't tried RHEL in my environment. Should I?
Michael MacIsaac wrote:
Hello list,
The redbook "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: The Virtualization Cookbook
for SLES9" was recently published on the Web at:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html
The tar file associated with thi
When will we get a "for DEBIAN" version of this redbook? :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello list,
The redbook "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: The Virtualization Cookbook
for SLES9" was recently published on the Web at:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html
The tar file associa
I went and ran the ping test to see how SLES8 vs SLES9 would behave given the
tracepath differences I've found.
Some background to just refresh:
Hipersocket interface is set to 64 K on the CHPID. There is 8K of overhead so
the MTU is really 57344, and that is what the interface sets itself to
at
Art,
They are on their way.
Regards,
Darren
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 08:20, Janus, Leonard wrote:
> Hello Jon,
>
> here is our way (SLES-9):
> First (if needed) make the dasd available (0213 is the VM address):
>
> cd /sys/bus/ccw/drivers/dasd-eckd
> echo 1 >/sys/bus/ccw/drivers/dasd-eckd/0.0.
Hello list,
The redbook "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: The Virtualization Cookbook
for SLES9" was recently published on the Web at:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html
The tar file associated with this book are on the Web at:
ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG246695/
The
43 matches
Mail list logo
