Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
Lionel Dyck wrote: Vic - thanks. You said that if using vswitch that vlan was not needed if all the guests were on the same subnet. How would you connect the guests then? He probably meant to say 'same VLAN' The port on the outboard switch can be configured to treat all hosts connected to that

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread Harold Grovesteen
Not only want, need to control. VLAN tagging from the mainframe will require close coordination with the router/switch networking administrators. For example, If VLAN 436 is configured within the mainframe, then the router/switch networking administrators will need to configure VLAN 436 in their

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread Davis, Larry
I thought OSPF was a routing protocol and if all the VSWITCH users are on the same subnet than why do they need a router? Larry Davis -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 16:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: z/VM Linux Network

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 07:06, Davis, Larry wrote: I thought OSPF was a routing protocol and if all the VSWITCH users are on the same subnet than why do they need a router? Because people outside that subnet may want to get to them? Sure, VSWITCH guests will all be able to see each other with no

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread David Boyes
If I have interpreted the book correctly, and it is true that OSPF is not used with VSWITCH, we will not be able to take that path as VSWITCH protocols will not be supported by our networking group. What are my options - apparently out networking group has indicated they want to use only

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Vic Cross
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Lionel Dyck wrote: we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe network folks are arguing about things... Lionel, I join the VSWITCH chorus! Just be aware that using VSWITCH makes you totally dependent upon the network guys for availability

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Lionel Dyck
Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/2004 11:37 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Lionel Dyck wrote: we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe network

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Lionel Dyck
PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations On Monday, 06/14/2004 at 06:42 MST, Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that if using vswitch that vlan was not needed if all the guests were on the same subnet. How would you connect the guests then? 1

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/14/2004 at 07:38 MST, Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan - thanks - guess I have some more reading to do on this. :-) Be careful. That just may make things more confusing. If you want to understand what IEEE VLANs are, how they work, and how switches are configured, it's

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 15:30, Lionel Dyck wrote: My mainframe networking guy came back to me with this comment: If I have interpreted the book correctly, and it is true that OSPF is not used with VSWITCH, we will not be able to take that path as VSWITCH protocols will not be supported by our

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/14/2004 at 01:30 MST, Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mainframe networking guy came back to me with this comment: If I have interpreted the book correctly, and it is true that OSPF is not used with VSWITCH, we will not be able to take that path as VSWITCH protocols will

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-10 Thread Davis, Larry
be the failover Controller. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 17:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: z/VM Linux Network recommendations we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe

z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-09 Thread Lionel Dyck
we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe network folks are arguing about things (z/vm routing or use direct to linux for the route) while our network engineers are saying no static routing period. what i'd like is your recommendations on what the best setup would

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:15, Lionel Dyck wrote: we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe network folks are arguing about things (z/vm routing or use direct to linux for the route) while our network engineers are saying no static routing period. what i'd like

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-09 Thread Rich Smrcina
I concur, the Vswitch is the way to go. You get the best of both worlds, all of the guests connect to an internal LAN service and they all look like they are on the same network as z/VM. On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:15, Lionel Dyck wrote: we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM Linux Network recommendations I concur, the Vswitch is the way to go. You get the best of both worlds, all of the guests connect to an internal LAN service and they all look like they are on the same network as z/VM. On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:15, Lionel

Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations

2004-06-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/09/2004 at 02:15 MST, Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe network folks are arguing about things (z/vm routing or use direct to linux for the route) while our network engineers are saying no static