On 05/08/2014 04:25 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
+1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server.
Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does
with an NTP daemon reference clock :)
Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for this
use, look for a simple USB GPS
Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for
this use, look for a simple USB GPS receiver - between $20-$40 (I can
see it now for $35 in Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-S4-USB-Receiver-Black/dp/B008200LHW/ref=sr_1_1
). Supported natively by ntpd
Umm, thanks. I might try this connected to the cubox-i I plan to buy.
On 9 May 2014 17:16, Ori Berger linux...@orib.net wrote:
On 05/08/2014 04:25 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
+1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server.
Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does
with an NTP
Which software? Smart Tome Sync?
On 9 May 2014 18:02, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for this
use, look for a simple USB GPS receiver - between $20-$40 (I can see it now
for $35 in Amazon
eBay - less then 150 NIS and free int. shipping
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=GlobalSat+BU-353-S4+USB
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2014-05-09 13:21 GMT+03:00 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com:
Which software? Smart Tome Sync?
On 9 May 2014 18:02, geoffrey mendelson
wrote:
On 5/5/2014 8:13 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Please update here with the respons.
It does not.
This is in reference to an NTP server Android App being able to access the
GPS hardware for time sync. Since most (all?) Android phones have GPS chips
and Wifi, run Linux, etc, it would
On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal to
get a good clock, and I thought that this is what this time-server
thing does. What does it do if not that?
The one I saw was just an Android port of the standard NTP server, which
I posted a question in
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/68996/using-android-gps-as-ntp-refclock
On 8 May 2014 10:56, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal
://android.stackexchange.com/questions/68996/using-android-gps-as-ntp-refclock
On 8 May 2014 10:56, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.comwrote:
On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal to
get a good clock, and I thought
Doesn't make sense to me:
1. The NTP server only needs the time signal, not the location (which
requires 4 satellites to be accurate), so even a signal from a single
satellite should be sufficient.
2. getting a signal lock is mostly a matter of having an up to date
satellite position almanac
Hi All,
There are applications to update the time by GPS - e.g. Smart Time Sync
It needs root access. It does sync periodically (at most twice an hour).
Such an application together with NTP server application (there are a few)
makes a stratum 1 time server.
Ehud.
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On 5/8/2014 3:39 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Doesn't make sense to me:
1. The NTP server only needs the time signal, not the location (which
requires 4 satellites to be accurate), so even a signal from a single
satellite should be sufficient.
2. getting a signal lock is mostly a matter of having
+1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server.
Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does with
an NTP daemon reference clock :)
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On 5/5/2014 8:13 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Please update here with the respons.
It does not.
This is in reference to an NTP server Android App being able to access
the GPS hardware for time sync. Since most (all?) Android phones have
GPS chips and Wifi, run Linux, etc, it would be a cheap way
:
ntp.iix.net.il works for me from home (012), and work (BezeqBL).
good to know. At least this tells me it's not an ISP-wide issue.
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Amos Shapira wrote:
1. If you are running ntp daemons on your linux machines then use ntpq to
query what it thinks it synchs with and its synch status
On 5/4/2014 2:11 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
Joining this late, but does anyone know if there is an NTP device driver
for an android phone? You can get a new Android 4 phone for 500 NIS, and
used ones range in price from that to nothing (especially ones with
cracked screens).
TIA.
Geoff
You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server?
For ntp client, there is clocksync:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.org.amip.ClockSync
It requires root in order to sung the clock for less than 30 seconds.
On 4 May 2014 14:27, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel
On 5/4/2014 5:17 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server?
Yes. It has GPS hardware, runs linux and has wifi. Should be enough to
make your own GPS derived stratum 1 server.
Geoff.
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Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/
On 4 May 2014 18:44, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/4/2014 5:17 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server?
Yes. It has GPS hardware, runs linux
On 5/5/2014 7:41 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/
Thanks, I saw that and asked them if it will use sync to the GPS in the
phone as a source. I'm waiting for an answer.
Geoff.
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Please update here with the respons.
On 5 May 2014 08:06, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/5/2014 7:41 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:
Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/
Thanks, I saw that and asked them if it will use sync to the GPS
1. If you are running ntp daemons on your linux machines then use ntpq to
query what it thinks it synchs with and its synch status.
2. Use traceroute with UDP port 123 to see whether you manage to reach the
server you pick.
On 2 May 2014 07:19, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote:
Hi Geoff
I've never had trouble with NTP... my guess is your ISP is blocking or
interfering, get a level 2 or better rep. they should be able to unblock it
if you make enough noise...
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2014-05-02 9:24 GMT+03:00 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com:
1. If you are running ntp daemons on your linux
that
hadn't been updated in ten years. But installing a windows port of NTP
didn't fix things.
I then realised that my Linux machines weren't keeping time either. They
simply hadn't drifted as far, as Linux is better at keeping time. The macs
weren't either.
To cut a long lot of investigations
seconds slow. Due to the time-keeping
software installed, we were able to see that it hadn't managed to sync the
time since 7 April.
I initially blamed Windows and the fact that I was running software that
hadn't been updated in ten years. But installing a windows port of NTP
didn't fix
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote:
2. Has anyone found a server that works?
Have you tried il.pool.ntp.org ?
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try asia.pool.ntp.org, europe.pool.ntp.org, anorth-america.pool.ntp.org
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang
Hi Geoff,
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote:
2. Has anyone found a server that works?
ntp.iix.net.il works for me from home (012), and work (BezeqBL).
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:35:32 +0200
From: Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com
To: Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org
Subject: Fwd: NTP servers in Israel
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From: Ask Bjørn Hansen a...@ntppool.org
Date: Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM
Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
Thanks,
Dan
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Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
ntp.iix.net.il
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Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
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2009/10/26 Dan Bar Dov bar...@gmail.com:
Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
There are ntp.012.net.il and ntp.netvision.net.il - I don't know if
they're accessible outside the ISP's IP network blocks, though.
There's
il.pool.ntp.org
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, shimi linux...@shimi.net wrote:
2009/10/26 Dan Bar Dov bar...@gmail.com:
Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
There are ntp.012.net.il and ntp.netvision.net.il - I don't know
On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, shimi wrote:
2009/10/26 Dan Bar Dov bar...@gmail.com:
Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
There are ntp.012.net.il and ntp.netvision.net.il - I don't know if
they're accessible outside the ISP's IP
ntp.ilan.net.il
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:14:06AM +0200, Dan Bar Dov wrote:
Are there any local ntp servers in Israel?
Do any of the ISPs in Israel provide ntp service?
Thanks,
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Oren Held wrote:
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a
Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp
servers
Hi all,
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a
Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp
servers). The NTP process is working, and displays the time offset
properly
Hi,
Can you show us an example of /etc/ntp.conf ?
- Noam
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a
Windows
/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/
statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable
# You do
* that the ntp client will try to repeatedly reach these servers
even though they do not respond, though I don't believe that this is the
problem. Anyhow, my experience tells me that if a server is not working,
don't put it in the file. (in the contrary to the למלמ approach)
I would also add the lines
2008/7/23 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a
Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp
servers). The NTP process
Amos Shapira wrote:
2008/7/23 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source
(say, a Windows Server domain controller
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers.
I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a
Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp
servers). The NTP process
to configure NTP. but I'm having
You can try ntp.iix.net.il.
which again is a bit far. I downloaded a Ubuntu image from Cyprus the
You can also try mirror.isoc.org.il.
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in that time (don't worry, there will be more).
I've finally decided that it's time to configure NTP. but I'm having
You can try ntp.iix.net.il.
which again is a bit far. I downloaded a Ubuntu image from Cyprus the
You can also try mirror.isoc.org.il.
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On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:21:31AM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote:
I've done a bit of DNS work and found the following which may or may not
yield actual working servers:
* ntp.netvision.net.il (2 addresses)
* ntp.012.net.il
* time.inter.net.il
* time.bezeqint.net
Anyone know if any
Geoff Shang wrote:
Hi,
Those of you who are paying attention will remember that I moved here
from Australia 4 months ago. Again, thanks to those who have answered
questions for me in that time (don't worry, there will be more).
I've finally decided that it's time to configure NTP
Hi,
Those of you who are paying attention will remember that I moved here from
Australia 4 months ago. Again, thanks to those who have answered questions
for me in that time (don't worry, there will be more).
I've finally decided that it's time to configure NTP. but I'm having
trouble
On 31/08/2007, Geoff Shang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've done a bit of DNS work and found the following which may or may not
yield actual working servers:
* ntp.netvision.net.il (2 addresses)
* ntp.012.net.il
* time.inter.net.il
* time.bezeqint.net
Anyone know if any of these are working
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From: Tzahi Fadida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 20:42
To: Noam Rathaus; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings
Hi noam,
The problem is with your time zone settings in your Distro. Because
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 08:50:43AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out
of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go
AFAIK that's impossible to keep Israeli timezone
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:49:47AM +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
Hi,
I got a few nice solutions, this is one of them, one thing missing, is
that I am looking for a centralized solution that will not be Distro
depened, or even OS deepened. It appears that at the moment there isn't one.
This
Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out
of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go
AFAIK that's impossible to keep Israeli timezone up-to-date out of the box
for a prolonged period of times - Israeli timezone
But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out
of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go
AFAIK that's impossible to keep Israeli timezone up-to-date out of the box
for a prolonged period of times - Israeli timezone is not fixed but set by
the
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:56:33PM -0400, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Well, it has to count time from some point (the epoch), which
happens to be 1990-01-01 00:00:00 UTC. And it counts it in
seconds (or 2**-32 seconds). But it has no notion of any time
periods greater than a second (days,
as well. UTC is a time
count which differs from TAI by an integral number of seconds to
keep it close to UT1, so UTC second and TAI second are the same.
From the POV of software, NTP counts time units, and UTC is a
representation of such value in human-readable format.
As a result, that site
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Sep 26, 2003:
To be even more precise - *LOCAL* timezone is irrelevant, but NTP
must keep the time in SOME timezone so you can relate to it when
translating to a convenient timezone by date(1) and friends. That is
what UTC (a universal timezone, which happens
there is an Israeli NTP server that keeps track of these
things, allowing my organization, and others out there to keep track of these time
changes.
Thanks
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is whether there is an Israeli NTP server that keeps track of these things, allowing my organization, and others out there to keep track of these time changes.
Hi Noam,
NTP gives out the time in UTC/GMT/Zulu/whatever they call it now. As
such, changes to the timezone are not, and should
to
be changing at random).
Anyhow my question is whether there is an Israeli NTP server that keeps
track of these things, allowing my organization, and others out there to
keep track of these time changes.
Dear Noam,
NTP servers are clueless about timezone. They only tell the time in UTC. It is
your
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Subject: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings
Hi
Quoth Shachar Shemesh on Thu, Sep 25, 2003:
NTP gives out the time in UTC/GMT/Zulu/whatever they call it now.
To be precise, timezone is irrelevant in context of NTP.
I know, for my part, that the debian maintainers have been doing a
wonderful job of keeping my timezone info on my machine up
Vadim Vygonets wrote:
Quoth Shachar Shemesh on Thu, Sep 25, 2003:
NTP gives out the time in UTC/GMT/Zulu/whatever they call it now.
To be precise, timezone is irrelevant in context of NTP.
To be even more precise - *LOCAL* timezone is irrelevant, but NTP
must keep the time in SOME
Hi,
For some strange reason my kernel clock goes (much) faster than the hardware
clock (about a second every minute), so I decided to run ntpd. I configured
it to a specific NTP server and now it synchronizes with the server when the
offset is about 10sec. How can I change the default to say 1sec
Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search of this list's
archive yielded a few addresses scattered over several threads, but I
was wondering if a list similar to
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm
Hi,
I'm using ntp.netvision.net.il, but I'm not sure that this one is open for non
Netvision customers.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 03:11:27PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search
| only stratum 2
servers
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Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search of this list's
archive yielded a few addresses scattered over several threads, but I
OG Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il
and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others,
but ntp.ac.il is public.
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AB timeserver.iix.net.il | ntp.iix.net.il| stratum 2 | public
AB ntp.ilan.net.il| ntp.ac.il | stratum 0/1 | only stratum 2
AB servers
Seems that ntp.ac.il still allows connection to everybody. But then it's
by
stratum 2 ntp servers. Stratum 0/1 servers are not to be used by end
clients, see netiquette about it. It also is a scalability problem.
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On Sun, Apr 29, 2001, Ariel Biener wrote about Re: Public NTP servers in Israel:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:
There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il
and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:
By definition, any NTP client/server connecting to a stratum 1 server becomes
a stratum 2 server, so saying it should only be used by stratum 2 servers
doesn't say much...
I know what I meant, and so do the others here, but thanks for taking the
time
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
How will you convince bezeqint to have its own ntp server?
There is nothing to convince them about. It's for their own good. Other
ISPs already use one of their routers as NTP server.
The fact BezeqInt tend to not cate about netiquette at all
Hi,
The way I see this being properly implemented is the following:
Every ISP provides on one of it's routers, a NTP service for it's
clients. This server can synchronize both with ntp.ac.il, and
ntp.iix.net.il. Then, the ISP will make that server known to it's clients
(prefferably
Hi,
The way I see this being properly implemented is the following:
Every ISP provides on one of it's routers, a NTP service for it's
clients. This server can synchronize both with ntp.ac.il, and
ntp.iix.net.il. Then, the ISP will make that server known to it's clients
As far as I remeber, the recommended NTP setup is to have one machine sync with
several servers on the internet, and have all other machines on the local network
sync with that machine. This does have some redundancy problems (i.e. - little
redundancy), but as NTP learns the drift and adjusts
Hi...
How can i setup a Linux RH 6.2 box to sync time with a Solaris 2.6 box. if
not possible... then with another linux..
(the Solaris is currently syncing with other Solarises.)
Thanks In Advnace.
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Hi...
How can i setup a Linux RH 6.2 box to sync time with a Solaris 2.6 box. if
not possible... then with another linux..
(the Solaris is currently syncing with other Solarises.)
As you have already hinted, you can set some machine, be it Solaris or Linux
to be an ntp server
Hi All
Where in israel we have accurate stable ntp servers ?
is there a list somewhere ?
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I do not know if there is a list for Israeli servers. Have you tried the ntp
docs?
Hi All
Where in israel we have accurate stable ntp servers ?
is there a list somewhere ?
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Quoth Ben-Nes Michael on Wed, Apr 12, 2000:
Where in israel we have accurate stable ntp servers ?
relay.huji.ac.il is the one I used in some company which was
connected via Barak.
is there a list somewhere ?
xntpd documentation has a world wide list of publically
accessible NTP servers
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From: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: good stable ntp
Hi All
Where in israel we have accurate stable ntp servers ?
is there a list somewhere ?
Well, there is timeserver.iix.net.il
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
As far as I know new kernels does not write the correct time to the bios clock
every 11 min even if the system has a good time reference (ntp or such). This
is contrary to what older kernels used to do.
I have never heard of a kernel voluntarily
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Ira Abramov wrote:
I have never heard of a kernel voluntarily updating the hardware clock,
or anyything at a weird 11 minute interval. I do however set on some
wild-clocked old mobos a cron job to write the HWclock once an hour or
once a day. however if you have NTP
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
As far as I know new kernels does not write the correct time to the bios clock
every 11 min even if the system has a good time reference (ntp or such). This
is contrary to what older kernels used to do.
I have never heard of a kernel
As far as I know new kernels does not write the correct time to the bios clock
every 11 min even if the system has a good time reference (ntp or such). This
is contrary to what older kernels used to do.
Can someone give a good reference to prove whether I am right or wrong?
I tried the kernel
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