ot Job Offer - הצעת עבודה

2008-03-31 Thread Daniel Refaeli
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Re: ot Job Offer - הצעת עבודה

2008-03-31 Thread Amos Shapira
Subject: Re: ot Job Offer - הצעת עבודה
   ^

Understatement of the year :)

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screen.


Re: installing CentOS/RHEL without CD using PXE?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Alex Dover, from the post of Sun, 30 Mar:
 Just for the record, Red Hat / CentOS always had network install mode
 (FTP/HTTP/NFS). With demise of Red Hat Linux I think you can only install
 Fedora or CentOS from network, but still...

Demise of RHL? anything we should know?

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choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie folks!

1.

a client of mine is a budding startup, and they got to the point where
they no longer want their mail services hosted, but locally installed
and providing the full outlook experience. In simple words - calender
sync, common folders. stuff that's not readily available with IMAP
alone. The offer for Exchange will entail buying two servers and lots of
software licences and I'm hoping not to go there. I've looked into
Open-Xchange (Ugly, community version doesn't support their outlook
connector and no community connector to be found), Scalix (Ugly and
expensive) and Zimbra (Donno if ugly, but still pretty expensive).

Everyone tells me that free/busy files on a samba share don't really
work. any other solutions or maybe recommendatiopns from a real-life
experiance with the above three?

2.

Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and desktops -
all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two common
aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance with
OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over the
other, or a different oe altogether?

Thanks,
Ira.

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Re: installing CentOS/RHEL without CD using PXE?

2008-03-31 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:25:20AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:

 Demise of RHL? anything we should know?

I think he's refering to the all inclusive package that Red Hat sold.
It was designed for everyone to use with lots of instalation options.

At one time it was offered in Intel, Alpha, and SPARC versions. 

Red Hat dropped it when they exited the desktop market. They offer
RHEL, which is targeted at servers (and people with money), and Fedora
which is targeted at experimenters (free).

Neither are seen as viable options for business desktop computers as
RHEL is too server oriented and Fedora is too unstable. Neither has 
by themselves, or combined have all the instalation options that
RHL had.

Red Had announced they were thinking about re-entering the desktop
market, so far it has not happened. IMHO their dropping the Core
from Fedora 8, was an indication that it will be based on  Fedora,
and probably marketed using that brand, such as Fedora Pro or
some similar name. Others have said it will be based on RHEL.

Geoff.




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Re: installing CentOS/RHEL without CD using PXE?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:25:20AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
  Quoting Alex Dover, from the post of Sun, 30 Mar:
   Just for the record, Red Hat / CentOS always had network install mode
   (FTP/HTTP/NFS). With demise of Red Hat Linux I think you can only install
   Fedora or CentOS from network, but still...
  
  Demise of RHL? anything we should know?
 
 RHL, the product, is no longer updated or worked on.

News flash, it's alive and kicking, it's just called Fedora Core now.

These days RHL usually means RHEL, which is also alive and well.

since sadly neither are dead, I'm not sure what demise he is refering to.

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Marc A. Volovic
With due respect to budding startups, and aesthetic judgements aside, both 
Scalix and ZImbra provide reasonably good products for a reasonable amount of 
money.

We - internally - are using Zimbra and are pretty happy. Up until a few days 
ago, we were running community edition (free) and are now switching to a full 
commercial version for a variety of reasons.

M

- Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdie folks!
 
 1.
 
 a client of mine is a budding startup, and they got to the point
 where
 they no longer want their mail services hosted, but locally installed
 and providing the full outlook experience. In simple words - calender
 sync, common folders. stuff that's not readily available with IMAP
 alone. The offer for Exchange will entail buying two servers and lots
 of
 software licences and I'm hoping not to go there. I've looked into
 Open-Xchange (Ugly, community version doesn't support their outlook
 connector and no community connector to be found), Scalix (Ugly and
 expensive) and Zimbra (Donno if ugly, but still pretty expensive).
 
 Everyone tells me that free/busy files on a samba share don't really
 work. any other solutions or maybe recommendatiopns from a real-life
 experiance with the above three?
 
 2.
 
 Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and desktops -
 all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two common
 aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance with
 OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over the
 other, or a different oe altogether?
 
 Thanks,
 Ira.
 
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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Oren Held
Why would they insist of the mail service would be local? It'll raise many new 
concerns: availability, backups, data corruptions..

If it's just a need for shared calendar and central mail storage, I'd be using 
Google for domains. Should be free of charge for small companies.

IMAP/POP3 is supported and there's also a new outlook-calendar-sync software; 
but I prefer to use the GUI for calendar stuff.

I bet your alternative solution don't suggest the SMS-on-appointment feature, 
not for free at least :)

 - Oren

On Monday 31 March 2008 11:40, Ira Abramov wrote:
 Howdie folks!

 1.

 a client of mine is a budding startup, and they got to the point where
 they no longer want their mail services hosted, but locally installed
 and providing the full outlook experience. In simple words - calender
 sync, common folders. stuff that's not readily available with IMAP
 alone. The offer for Exchange will entail buying two servers and lots of
 software licences and I'm hoping not to go there. I've looked into
 Open-Xchange (Ugly, community version doesn't support their outlook
 connector and no community connector to be found), Scalix (Ugly and
 expensive) and Zimbra (Donno if ugly, but still pretty expensive).

 Everyone tells me that free/busy files on a samba share don't really
 work. any other solutions or maybe recommendatiopns from a real-life
 experiance with the above three?

 2.

 Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and desktops -
 all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two common
 aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance with
 OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over the
 other, or a different oe altogether?

 Thanks,
 Ira.

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oren Held, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
 Why would they insist of the mail service would be local? It'll raise many 
 new 
 concerns: availability, backups, data corruptions..

I have warned them against all those, and begged them to reconsider (I
hate maintaining Mail servers, even if I've done it flawlessly for over
10 years now)

 
 If it's just a need for shared calendar and central mail storage, I'd be 
 using 
 Google for domains. Should be free of charge for small companies.

I suggested that too. they didn't want the security risks and the
google branding on their Emails. They are willing to shell out thousands
of dollars for an inferior solution (IMHO, especially if you count cost)

 I bet your alternative solution don't suggest the SMS-on-appointment feature, 
 not for free at least :)

One can always improvise with Twitter, no? :-P

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:39:44PM +0300, Oren Held wrote:
 If it's just a need for shared calendar and central mail storage, I'd be 
 using 
 Google for domains. Should be free of charge for small companies.

Before I answer this, I need to disclose that I am extremely anti-Google.

However, I think that it's important to say this, and that it applies to
ALL of the free webmail providers, not just Google. 

As someone who has been involved with a lot of commerical research over the
years, I would NEVER want to use a email service I did not control for my
company's email. Google and all the others, data mine your email. They
claim that it is for advertising purposes, but one can never be sure.

Just knowing what a company is discussing, can give you insider information.

For example, I worked for a place that had a particular computer. It was
used for a specific purpose. If we had joined that companies public user
list, we would have been advertising that we were developing a product.
No one could figure that out just by knowing that we had that computer.
However the project leader was a well known expert in their field, and
knowing that he had one would be enough for the competition to connect
the dots.

How hard would that be for someone scanned their email?

It's been done in other venues, IBM had a free patent search database before the
USPTO. They data mined the queries and had a group working on using the results.
If someone did a search which could be used as an idea for a product, they took
it. It was both legal and ethical because they said something in their TC.

Another case are domain registrars who data mine whois requests. If you search 
for
a domain that is not in use, the registrar holds it and raises the price. :-)


There is a company which sells a product that blocks these kind of security 
holes
and does not let you send attachments, discuss confidential keywords, etc on
free mail accounts.

 I bet your alternative solution don't suggest the SMS-on-appointment feature, 
 not for free at least :)

Ooh neat. Sounds like a good one to me. 

Geoff.

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Re: choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
- Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and desktops -
  all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two common
  aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance with
  OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over the
  other, or a different oe altogether?

no ideas anyone? I guess I'll go with Xcat...

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Monday 31 March 2008 13:46:36 Ira Abramov wrote:
  If it's just a need for shared calendar and central mail storage, I'd be
  using Google for domains. Should be free of charge for small companies.

 I suggested that too. they didn't want the security risks 

You can take out the quotes. gmail uses the google login, which means that if 
I get your login (by a cross site scripting attack; by a phishing trick; by a 
vulnerability in any of the google services) I got full access to your 
corporate email.
Also, your security nazi^H^H^H^Hadministrator has no control over the login 
policies, password policies, or anything else that has to do with security, 
oh, but they are allowed to bang their heads to the wall if something goes 
wrong and they need google's help, because talking to the wall is the 
equivalent of google human support (unless they're lawyers in which case 
google will be happy to comply).

There's also no backup and no archive.

 and the 
 google branding on their Emails.

This is no small matter. I can't see why a company will agree to having their 
emails having sent on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Plus, most of what GSM wrote (including the full disclosure about not liking 
google).

 They are willing to shell out thousands 
 of dollars for an inferior solution (IMHO, especially if you count cost)

If they consider email a critical part of their daily work, maybe shelling out 
some money makes sense. Although with FOSS products you usually get to try it 
before shelling out the money (e.g. Marc's note).


  I bet your alternative solution don't suggest the SMS-on-appointment
  feature, not for free at least :)


That *is* a killer feature, I'll admit.

- Aviram (who uses google calendar exclusively nowadays)

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Re: choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Marc A. Volovic, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
 poppet

Thanks. Took me 5 minutes to discover it's spelled Puppet, and 20 more
of reading through all the FAQs and manuals to realize it does
management, not provisioning.

I'll make it clearer: I'm looking for a product that will allow me to
remote-install blades and tower machines via PXE from a smart kickstart
or other type of image server. Management after provisioning is a bonus,
not a must.

Thanks,
Ira.

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SMS via bluetooth?

2008-03-31 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Since we were talking about the groupware thing, and Googles SMS 
appointment reminder, I was wondering about implementing it without 
using Google. 

The obvious way is to use viCQ to send messages, but then you are letting
possibly confidential details out without knowing it. For example, your
wife and children's names (which make many a password), birthdays, business
associates, etc. Perhaps you are client number 8? 

My second choice is the screen scraping sendsms scripts, which I no longer
use. I have no idea if they still work. I went to vICQ, but never use it
either, I come from an SMS challenged enviornment. :-)

To me the best choice is via a Bluetooth phone. Then you send your message
directly over your cellular phone network which reduces the number of
hands in the process and your SP is legally bound to some confidentiality. 

My wife has a Nokia cell phone with a bluetooth connection to her PC.
Using Nokia PC Suite one can use it to send SMSs. 

Is there a program to do it from Linux? 

I understand it is not free, but if you are doing this on a company wide
basis, you can negotiate cheaper or free SMS service from your cellular
phone company.

Geoff.

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Oren Held
On Monday 31 March 2008 15:28, Aviram Jenik wrote:
  and the
  google branding on their Emails.
 This is no small matter. I can't see why a company will agree to having
 their emails having sent on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Why would it use @gmail.com? I was talking about Google for domains - or maybe 
it has a new name (http://www.google.com/a), which can take control of 
@your-domain.com..

I don't think that there's a Google branding anywhere.

 - Oren

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Re: SMS via bluetooth?

2008-03-31 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:53:04PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
 To me the best choice is via a Bluetooth phone. Then you send your message
 directly over your cellular phone network which reduces the number of
 hands in the process and your SP is legally bound to some confidentiality. 
 
 My wife has a Nokia cell phone with a bluetooth connection to her PC.
 Using Nokia PC Suite one can use it to send SMSs. 
 
 Is there a program to do it from Linux? 

I did not try to use BlueTooth (in linux or otherwise), but gammu can
send SMSs via USB. Does not work on all phones, so if you intend to buy
one for this task (e.g. a very cheap one, always connected to your SMS
server), first check if it works. It works for me (tm) with nokia 3100
and a cheap usb cable called KQ-U8A (with a prolific chipset/driver).
Note that Nokia's official cable does not work (last time I checked).
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Re: SMS via bluetooth?

2008-03-31 Thread Meir Kriheli

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Since we were talking about the groupware thing, and Googles SMS 
appointment reminder, I was wondering about implementing it without 
using Google. 


The obvious way is to use viCQ to send messages, but then you are letting
possibly confidential details out without knowing it. For example, your
wife and children's names (which make many a password), birthdays, business
associates, etc. Perhaps you are client number 8? 


My second choice is the screen scraping sendsms scripts, which I no longer
use. I have no idea if they still work. I went to vICQ, but never use it
either, I come from an SMS challenged enviornment. :-)

To me the best choice is via a Bluetooth phone. Then you send your message
directly over your cellular phone network which reduces the number of
hands in the process and your SP is legally bound to some confidentiality. 


My wife has a Nokia cell phone with a bluetooth connection to her PC.
Using Nokia PC Suite one can use it to send SMSs. 

Is there a program to do it from Linux? 


I understand it is not free, but if you are doing this on a company wide
basis, you can negotiate cheaper or free SMS service from your cellular
phone company.

Geoff.



There's Wammu [1], which is the wxWidgets frontend (one of several) to 
Gammu [2]. I use it to backup the phone via bluetooth. Tested sending 
SMS with Wammu via bluetooth, English worked, Hebrew sent as  (could 
be problem with the receiving phone).


Gammu has bindings for python and ruby.


[1] http://wammu.eu/
[2] http://www.gammu.org/
[3] 
http://www.gammu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gammu:Main_Page#Third_party_-_bindings


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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ariel Biener
On Monday 31 March 2008 11:59, Marc A. Volovic wrote:
 With due respect to budding startups, and aesthetic judgements aside, 
 both Scalix and ZImbra provide reasonably good products for a reasonable 
 amount of money.  

I think Scalix is overpriced. It wont be noticeable if you do not have
many users. I don't think it's cheaper than MS Exchange 2007.

Also, if you're gonna be at Tech-Ed on Sunday, Microsoft Israel is launching 
it's
hosted exchange service, which gives you a full exchange server and experience,
on their infrastructure, which in your case, might be more suitable than 
maintaining
the thing yourself (it most certanly be cheaper if you take into consideration 
the
overall maintenance of a mail system: storage, backups, system administration,
upgrade path of hardware, maintenance contracts for hardware, etc etc).

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Re: SMS via bluetooth?

2008-03-31 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 To me the best choice is via a Bluetooth phone. Then you send your message
 directly over your cellular phone network which reduces the number of
 hands in the process and your SP is legally bound to some confidentiality.

 My wife has a Nokia cell phone with a bluetooth connection to her PC.
 Using Nokia PC Suite one can use it to send SMSs.

 Is there a program to do it from Linux?


With GSM phones, you send SMSs by issuing certain special AT commands over
the phone's serial (modem) interface.

With Bluetooth, you get a serial port device (ttyS... or something) and you
use it just as you would use a phone connected thru a serial cable (e.g.
with gnokii or by issuing the AT commands directly).


Re: choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ohad Levy
Checkout Cobbler.

Puppet is a great tool, you might want to use it if you manage a lot of
servers...

Ohad

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wrote:

 Quoting Marc A. Volovic, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
  poppet

 Thanks. Took me 5 minutes to discover it's spelled Puppet, and 20 more
 of reading through all the FAQs and manuals to realize it does
 management, not provisioning.

 I'll make it clearer: I'm looking for a product that will allow me to
 remote-install blades and tower machines via PXE from a smart kickstart
 or other type of image server. Management after provisioning is a bonus,
 not a must.

 Thanks,
 Ira.

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Ariel Biener, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
 
 Also, if you're gonna be at Tech-Ed on Sunday, Microsoft Israel is launching 
 it's
 hosted exchange service, which gives you a full exchange server and 
 experience,

That's the same comapny that just 3 months ago shut down Hotmail.co.il
with a week's notice, without a chance for the users to backup their
data or forward it to hotmail.com?

 on their infrastructure, which in your case, might be more suitable than 
 maintaining
 the thing yourself (it most certanly be cheaper if you take into 
 consideration the

interesting that they are finally leaving their  product bastion and
trying the water of the services pond. Could it be Google Envy? Does
anyone know if Oracle ever managed to steal any customers with their
hosted mail solutions?

 overall maintenance of a mail system: storage, backups, system administration,
 upgrade path of hardware, maintenance contracts for hardware, etc etc).

This client decided quite definitly they are against any and all hosted
solutions, but I'll definitely give them a heads-up about this. Is this
advertised somewhere?

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Re: choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Marc A. Volovic
poppet

- Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and
 desktops -
   all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two
 common
   aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance
 with
   OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over
 the
   other, or a different oe altogether?
 
 no ideas anyone? I guess I'll go with Xcat...
 
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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Oren Held
Why would they insist of the mail service would be local? It'll raise many new 
concerns: availability, backups, data corruptions..

If it's just a need for shared calendar and central mail storage, I'd be using 
Google for domains. Should be free of charge for small companies.

IMAP/POP3 is supported and there's also a new outlook-calendar-sync software; 
but I prefer to use the GUI for calendar stuff.

I bet your alternative solution don't suggest the SMS-on-appointment feature, 
not for free at least :)

 - Oren

On Monday 31 March 2008 11:40, Ira Abramov wrote:
 Howdie folks!

 1.

 a client of mine is a budding startup, and they got to the point where
 they no longer want their mail services hosted, but locally installed
 and providing the full outlook experience. In simple words - calender
 sync, common folders. stuff that's not readily available with IMAP
 alone. The offer for Exchange will entail buying two servers and lots of
 software licences and I'm hoping not to go there. I've looked into
 Open-Xchange (Ugly, community version doesn't support their outlook
 connector and no community connector to be found), Scalix (Ugly and
 expensive) and Zimbra (Donno if ugly, but still pretty expensive).

 Everyone tells me that free/busy files on a samba share don't really
 work. any other solutions or maybe recommendatiopns from a real-life
 experiance with the above three?

 2.

 Same client wants standard images for its RD machines and desktops -
 all CentOS (and maybe windows laptops too down the line). Two common
 aproaches for that are Xcat and OSCAR, and I also had experiance with
 OpenQRM, but that product is EOL. Can anyone recommend one over the
 other, or a different oe altogether?

 Thanks,
 Ira.

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Problems with Cisco 350 Mini PCI (Thinkpad X31)

2008-03-31 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

I have bought a 2nd hand Thinkpad X31 and it has the Cisco 350 MiniPCI
card inside.
I used the airo driver with the latest firmware (5.60.22), but no
matter how hard I tried, WPA (personal) authentication does not work.
Here's the configuration file:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant

network={
ssid=hetz-home
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=DamnCrappyCisco
}

output from /var/log/messages:
Mar 31 23:38:52 x31 kernel: airo(): Probing for PCI adapters
Mar 31 23:38:53 x31 kernel: airo(eth1): WPA is supported.
Mar 31 23:38:54 x31 kernel: airo(eth1): MAC enabled 0:2:8a:f2:13:44
Mar 31 23:38:54 x31 kernel: airo(): Finished probing for PCI adapters

Here's the output when I try to run the command like this:
wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth1
-Dwext

wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth1 -Dwext
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
WEXT auth param 7 value 0x1 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - Trying to associate with
00:0f:66:02:c7:c9 (SSID='hetz-home' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWGENIE]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:02:c7:c9 (SSID='hetz-home' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWGENIE]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys
Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:02:c7:c9 (SSID='hetz-home' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWGENIE]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:02:c7:c9 (SSID='hetz-home' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWGENIE]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
cCTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Hetz
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Re: ot Job Offer - הצעת עבודה

2008-03-31 Thread Lior Kaplan
Daniel,

I already asked you in the past not to send these kind of mails to this
list. This list isn't an ad in the newspaper - you should write the
specifics for each job you offer (employer, needed knowledge, place of
work and such).

I'm sorry to tell you that this advertising method in general, and
specifically to this list is doing a bad service for you - you look like
a novice.

( to the list: As I referred him to the list a long time ago, I feel
somewhat guilty about this spam... sorry )

Daniel Refaeli wrote:
 
 
 שלום לכולם,
 
  
 
 מחפש עבודה?
 
 נמאס לך להיות עצמאי ולרדוף אחרי אנשים שלא משלמים בזמן (אם בכלל)?
 
 רוצה להתקדם ולא להישאר במקום?
 
  
 
 דרושים:
 
  
 
1. תוכניתן / ראש צוות PHP
2. אנשים עם ידע ב SQL לעבודה מול מסדי נתונים.
3. תוכניתן / ראש צוות Java
4. תוכניתן / ראש צוות J2EE
5. תוכניתן / ראש צוות ASP.Net
6. תוכניתן / ראש צוות .Net – Windows Applications
7. תוכניתן COBOL
8. תוכניתן / ראש צוות C/C++
 
  
 
 (יודע משהו שלא רשום שרשימה? יכול להיות שצריך אותך גם!)
 
  
 
 למתאימים יוצעו הצעות אטרקטיביות!
 
  
 
 תודה,
 
  
 
 דניאל
 
 052-2739156
 

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Re: choice of groupware, choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Amos Shapira
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Quoting Ariel Biener, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
 
  Also, if you're gonna be at Tech-Ed on Sunday, Microsoft Israel is
 launching it's
  hosted exchange service, which gives you a full exchange server and
 experience,


Oh good - all the points given against using Google web applications PLUS
having the opportunity to use Lookout, get infected with viruses, and always
worry that they will pull out another hotmail.co.il on you :)


 That's the same comapny that just 3 months ago shut down Hotmail.co.il
 with a week's notice, without a chance for the users to backup their
 data or forward it to hotmail.com?

  on their infrastructure, which in your case, might be more suitable than
 maintaining
  the thing yourself (it most certanly be cheaper if you take into
 consideration the

 interesting that they are finally leaving their  product bastion and
 trying the water of the services pond. Could it be Google Envy? Does
 anyone know if Oracle ever managed to steal any customers with their
 hosted mail solutions?


I don't know how about you but as early as circa 2003 I became a bit
familiar with the hosted exchange server market available in the US (the
startup I worked for in Israel used a hosted exchange server in the US, the
connection went up and down like a 2 cent whore, so the frustration saved
from the network admin by not having to maintain it was replaced by the
frustration of 15 users for not having a reliable Lookout connection (and
Lookout, being a typical MS application, not coping with this very well)).
For people who just have to use Exchange this might be a good go-between as
managing a private exchange server can be indeed a major resource drain
(with the caveat that the connection to it is reliable).

 overall maintenance of a mail system: storage, backups, system
 administration,
  upgrade path of hardware, maintenance contracts for hardware, etc etc).


I'm not sure you can save on these anyway - you'd want to backup e-mails
even from your hosted solution, wouldn't you? And you'll have some sort of a
shared file server anyway (which will require all of the above). All you
save is the headache of having to figure out the right click path whenever
you have to configure the damn thing, and understand the quirky MS network
terminology.

--Amos


Re: choice of provisioning server?

2008-03-31 Thread Amos Shapira
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Ira Abramov 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Marc A. Volovic, from the post of Mon, 31 Mar:
  poppet

 Thanks. Took me 5 minutes to discover it's spelled Puppet, and 20 more
 of reading through all the FAQs and manuals to realize it does
 management, not provisioning.


You can look at it both ways. We use puppet (still learning it) to provision
a few Xen guests remotely. Right now we base the install on an existing Xen
image (because cpan install is such a mess that the external software
provider just dropped us an image).

Just yesterday I noticed something called rollout (
http://dparrish.com/category/projects/rollout/). It's a rip-off of
provisioning software developed in my previous workplace which is used to
provision 500+ physical RHEL servers (compiled locally from source). The
original code is a bit horrendous (being developed by system admins, not
programmers) but does the job extremely well.

(to clarify, my experience is with the original code, yesterday I just
noticed this web site and from the description (and having heard the name of
the author before) I'm sure it's just a copy of what I used there over a
year ago).

The idea is that you sort of assert what software should be installed on
the server (be it rpm's, cvs checkouts or whatever) using a giant Perl Hash
to describe individual machines, classes of machines and software packages.
It can also control any bit of the system configuration and the idea is that
you can just kickstart a machine and it will automatically pull down the
perl script and configuration at the end of the kickstart process and
install everything from there.
Individual software package have an opportunity to plugin their own
iondividual configuration into the mix and since it's all in perl you have
full flexibility to do anything you like (including hacking your foot off
with a Swiss Army Chainsaw, of course).

The idea is that you should be able to just turn on the machine and forget
about it - remember the context it was developed in - 500+ servers which
could be literally on the other side of the continent and you want to allow
the ops people to just kick-start a replacement server during the night
until someone can come over to look at the problem in the morning.

You can still update configuration from it later (e.g. add another package
or change a config and re-run rollout to apply the change) but this is used
mostly during development. For production or staging use it is expected to
be used from kickstart, as lint will accumulate over time (it doesn't know
about removing unused packages left behind, for instance, or removing old
version of the configuration).

I'll make it clearer: I'm looking for a product that will allow me to
 remote-install blades and tower machines via PXE from a smart kickstart
 or other type of image server. Management after provisioning is a bonus,
 not a must.


Sounds like rollout is just what you want.

Cheers,

--Amos


looking for Tcl trainer

2008-03-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi,

 one of my clients asked for a Tcl training course but I don't have the
 material for such course.
 Is there is anyone on this list who is interested, please contact me
 ASAP in private mail.

 regards
   Gabor

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 Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/
 Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/szabgab

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Re: major packet loss at hot server

2008-03-31 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, sara fink wrote:


Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:48:41 +0300
From: sara fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: major packet loss at hot server

I can't check symmetry. I don't have adsl. In my case the problem
starts at hot. the first 2 hops belong to hot and the 3rd hop is 012.
The 80% packet lost is in the first hop. The 2nd hop another 20%.  I
have MPLS without dialer.


Hi Sara,
If you have access to a machine somewhere that runs tcpdump, then use 
hping commands from your MPLS to that machine in order to see if 
the packet loss is occuring on the outgoing or on the return trip. That 
is, hping out 50 packets. Check to see how many of those get to the target 
and then check to see how many of those that got to the target got back to 
you. If there is a more packet loss on the return leg than on the outgoing 
leg I would suspect a routing problem. If there is more loss on the early 
hops of the outgoing leg then I suspect either congestion or physical 
transmission problems with the final repeater or router.




How do I use different routing? Any idea of  which ips should I put?


You can't if you dont have a static IP. Well, I guess that you could check 
the routing to your first hop out that has a routed IP address by using 
various foreign traceroute web pages. If the routing problem is low enough 
and there is only one BGP router through which your packets can pass, then 
you might not be able to see the routing problem. I was able to see the 
routing problem that I had at Netvision last week because I was able to 
access my line from different Netvision border routers because Netvision 
is pretty big. It was really clear that one particular border router was 
getting bad information from an internal router.



I know someone who is very nice at 012. She belongs to service dep,
and she promissed to send someone who knows well unix/linux. I will
see what I can do today. Otherwise, www.tluna.co.il is the answer. I
put  last year a complaint there and they started to call me (not vice
versa). The problem was solved.

There is another weird thing which I don't understand: the ip
213.57.43.199 shows
IP address: 213.57.43.199
Reverse DNS:[Timeout]
Reverse DNS authenticity:   [Unknown]
ASN:8584
ASN Name:   UNSPECIFIED (Barak AS)

I don't belong to barak. Someone at 012 told me they have agreements
and they use each router on the way.


Most suppliers have agreements for routing between them instead or or as 
well as routing through the IIX. In addition many suppliers purchase 
overseas bandwidth from BBL or Barak/Netvision. You can probably ask Hot 
if they use Barak/Netvision.


  - yba


http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?domain=213.57.43.199

If someone can explain this, I will be glad.


On 3/29/08, Jonathan Ben Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Sara,
Sounds like you should consider switching suppliers.

Regarding my problem with Netvision reported last week, I was able to show
Netvision the difference in results (5% loss vs 70% loss) when using
different routes through Netvisions AS, mainly depending on where the
connection originated but this did not actually prove that there was a
routing error AFAIK. For some reason I didn't think to test if the packet
loss was symmetric (outgoing as well as incomming). That would
probably have been as close as you could get to a proof of routing error.

Does your packet loss depend on where you enter 012 from (i.e. from Med1,
from the IIX, from 012 ADSL)? Is the packet loss symmetric? That is do you
lose the same percent of packets on packet going out as comming in?

From my experience with Netvision, the level of service that you get at
the ISP depends on who knows you, or who knows someone who knows you.
Shavua Tov,

- yba


On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, sara fink wrote:


Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:43:37 +0300
From: sara fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: major packet loss at hot server

I haven't solved the problem yet. From 012 someone superior (network
dep) are supposed to call me and they will put hot on conference and
this time I intend to request the net admin/integrator to take care of
that AND ask them to go directly to the switch and disable the
firewall.The ip from where there is 75-80% packet lost is a principal
switchand another 1 or 2 ips where I get additional ~15-20% packet
lost. They have a harsh firewall on the main switch. ALL UDP ports
are blocked. TCP also a lot of ports closed.

tcptraceroute (as opposed to traceroute manages to bypass firewall)
reveals that there is a firewall, although inside hot (between
switches) the ports are open (firewalk). As for the problem you had
last week, I am not sure, because I have static IP without dialer
(MPLS) and the first 2 hops belong to hot (where the packet