Re: High-resolution user/system times?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:26 AM, guy keren guy.choo.ke...@gmail.com wrote: did you consider using oprofile? Or even better, perf? Both are built to answer exactly these sort of questions. Perf is newer and less fuss to set up. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker gi...@benyossef.com Israel Cell: +972-52-8260388 US Cell: +1-973-8260388 http://benyossef.com If you take a class in large-scale robotics, can you end up in a situation where the homework eats your dog? -- Jean-Baptiste Queru ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[job offer] RT/Embedded software engineer for its driver team
Hi all, EZChip Semiconductors ltd. is looking for a RT/Embedded software engineer for its driver team. This is a full time position, in Yokenam. Main development enshrinement is Linux on embedded CPUs, but various other RTOS/OS are in the mix as well. I can personally attest that its a good company to work for, full of bright and nice people, that respects its employees and knows how to reward them for their work. The official requirements from HR are as follows (but do give me a buzz if you're good but don't technically meet the requirements): - Relevant academic background (software / electrical engineering) from a respectable academic institute (e.g. University / Technion) with a minimum grade average of 85 - Team player with good social skills - Willingness to work hard Previous experience with the following buzz words is an advantage: Previous experience with embedded systems, networking, RTOS, embedded Linux, packet processing, protocol stacks, profile, debug, unicycle riding OK, I was joking about the unicycle riding, but the rest is real. :-) Please send your application via: http://atav.co.il/fb/show_job.php?jid=129th_uid=768tp=0 Feel free to email me privately if you have any questions. Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker gi...@benyossef.com Israel Cell: +972-52-8260388 US Cell: +1-973-8260388 http://benyossef.com If you take a class in large-scale robotics, can you end up in a situation where the homework eats your dog? -- Jean-Baptiste Queru ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [job offer] RT/Embedded software engineer for its driver team
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote: On 07/24/2012 01:41 PM, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Previous experience with embedded systems, networking, RTOS, embedded Linux, packet processing, protocol stacks, profile, debug, unicycle riding Does the unicycling experience have to be a successful one? If I own a unicycle, and have mounted it several times, but have never actually managed to ride it, would that count toward my eligibility (and, more importantly, count positively toward my eligibility)? Failures are important, as long as you learned from them, although, failed badly at X isn't something one sees often on resumes. Maybe we should though. At the worse case though you can claim having double experience in uni-cycling based on your bicycle riding skills. :-) Gilad Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker gi...@benyossef.com Israel Cell: +972-52-8260388 US Cell: +1-973-8260388 http://benyossef.com If you take a class in large-scale robotics, can you end up in a situation where the homework eats your dog? -- Jean-Baptiste Queru ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Project offer] WebKit guru
Hi, Some friends are looking for a consultant with the following quallifcations: · WebKit o Overall architecture, in details o Scanners (main scanner, pre-load scanner) o Flow of loading a web-page · HTTP and TCP implementation on Android Gingerbread and Honeycomb · HTTP and TCP implementation in Chromium · Optionally: same topics above for other mobile operating systems The project is at Haifa and I'd be happy to provide more details in private if you are interested and qualify, but please, do me a favor - send me an email only if you truly fit the bill. Thanks, Gilad ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[off topic] USB OTG Mini-A-male cable needed urgently
Hi all, I urgently need to buy, borrow or steal a USG OTG Mini A male cable today or tomorrow. I need this to hook it up into a Linux running Beagle like board, so it's not really off topic altogether. ;-) If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. And please, I mean the specific USG OTG Mini A male used to turn USB OTH devices into host mode. If you don't understand what that means you probably don't have the cable I need :-) Thanks, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [off topic] USB OTG Mini-A-male cable needed urgently
Baruch Siach wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:28:44AM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: I urgently need to buy, borrow or steal a USG OTG Mini A male cable today or tomorrow. I need this to hook it up into a Linux running Beagle like board, so it's not really off topic altogether. ;-) If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. And please, I mean the specific USG OTG Mini A male used to turn USB OTH devices into host mode. If you don't understand what that means you probably don't have the cable I need :-) http://www.pccenter.co.il/Product.asp?productid=9646 Many thanks. It does not say there this is the Mini A cable (ID pin grounded). Do you have any specific knowledge to assume that it is? Thanks, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: better platform for virtualization
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il writes: Hi Gilad, Why do you recommend KVM over XEN? Have you fiddled with both? Are there particular problems with XEN? Apart from the fact that XEN is paravirtualization technology and running a mission-critical Windows DomU is possible mostly in theory? Actually, I don't think this is true. Xen 2.0 supports VT extensions based virtualozation, so Xen is as capable as running Windows hosts as is KVM. I just think it is complicated. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: better platform for virtualization
Hi, Michael Lewinger wrote: I'd like to ask your oppinion on the virtualization of several WINDOWS servers installed on a client's medium business server room. There are about 6 crucial servers (priority, exchange, file server, and some others) that need to be accessible when they fail. Currently, each server has its own RAID storage. There is only 300GB of data to be kept on those servers (mostly exchange and file server). The virtualized servers should become alive when one of those main servers dies, and theoretically, no more than 2 VMs should be running in parallel. What would be the best virtualization platform for such a requirement ? Windows 2008 server, or XEN ? I recommend KVM. Would a fast single Xeon processor be able to handle this requirements ? 8GB or 4GB ? Processor power is almost certainly not the bottle neck in your setup. I would guess it is disk IO. But you really can't tell without measuring. Would you consider VMWARE on top of CENTOS ? I assume you mean vmware server. Putting a critical resource on a freebie proprietary program on top of an excellent OS but without formal support contract does not sound like a good plan to me. Just get RHEL 5.4 with the (KVM based) server virtualization option. We have a setup with earlier version of KVM running for over two years 22/7 (no typo, they sleep nights ) as a critical system with up to 30 VMs at any given time in a demanding setup. We had only a single crash (and the version we used is two years old) I would run my pacemaker software on KVM if I could and if I had a pacemaker ;-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: better platform for virtualization
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Hi Gilad, Why do you recommend KVM over XEN? Have you fiddled with both? Are there particular problems with XEN? No practical experience. From a design standpoint, it's architecture is overly complex and this is very evident when you use it. It is STILL not in the mainline Linux kernel. All this makes for a bad user experience. KVM solves the same problem, with less fuss and IS in the vanilla Linux kernel. I know at lest one person on this least which actually has code in Xen shares this view with me :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: remote debugging using gdbserver
ik wrote: The server runs on an ARM machine, and the client on my own machine. They both have gdb v7 Then the procedure you wrote can never work. You need to let gdb know where are the shared library of the ARM (with debug information): set solib-absolute-prefix /dev/null set solib-shared-path /path/to/libs Then do target remote. Also, you did compile gdb for cross debugging ARM on your host, right? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: remote debugging using gdbserver
ik wrote: Hello, I'm trying to use gdbserver as follows: $ gdbserver 192.168.0.202: http://192.168.0.202: ./hello When I try to debug the program hello using a gdb located on a different machine as follows: gdb $ target remote 192.168.0.202: http://192.168.0.202: The gdb server hangsup. What am I missing/doing wrong here ? What are the machines in question running? is it the exact same software? If not, you need to tell GDB where to find the shared libraries with debug information of your remote host. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Using OpenSource software in closed source componies (how ?)
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi Boris, you *CAN* use open source software with closed source application. The exception is when you're changing the source of the open source application, which means you'll need to give back the modification. I think linking to a FOSS product (GPL'd) is a bit more problematic, but for this you can write some simple wrappers. You are wrong. Every distribution triggers the GPL. Changed source code or not does not make any difference and linking to a GPLed library usually (some exceptions apply) triggers the GPL if you are actually distributing the library. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE] How Time Flies: Jiffies, Hi-Res Timers and the Tickless Kernel - Gilad Ben-Yossef
Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Monday, November 23rd (TOMORROW) at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear Gilad Ben-Yossef talk about How Time Flies: Jiffies, Hi-Res Timers and the Tickless Kernel Unfortunately, I will have to disappoint everyone (yet again) and cancel this talk. Please accept my sincere apologies, especially Orna and Or. When Or emailed to postpone this talk (it was originally scheduled on what turned out to be a W2L slot) he gave tomorrow as a possible replacement slot and I ACKed the cancellation and completely missed this alternative date and have only become aware of it due to this email. Unfortunately, I can't possibly make it tomorrow, or in the foreseeable future for that matter. To relieve any doubt, this is utterly my own fault and not Orna or Or and I once again ask for your forgiveness but my talk is definitely canceled for tomorrow. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: x11 window duplicator
Erez D wrote: I remember once there was an X utility to show copies of a window: i could run any program, and make it appear multiple times (possibly on different displays) The main program is functional, the others are just real time copies of it. i do not remember it's name. and google did not help either. VNC? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net The biggest risk you can take it is to take no risk. -- Mark Zuckerberg and probably others ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ISP Suggestion
Imri Zvik wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 14:24:11 geoffrey mendelson wrote: Except for early morning, I can no longer watch YouTube videos. They run for a few seconds, stop for a while and continue, then they stop for a while and continue. If I switch to Netvision, they play smoothly. Wierd... Could you please provide a sniff (PCAP format) of the problem (off-list, of course)? It would be very helpful. Just an educated guess, but I believe Netvision might have an Akamai node hosted there while 012 may not. Since Youtube uses Akamai as a CDN, the connection via Netvision only foes through the local loop, while in other ISPs it does the long haul. Again, just guessing, but easy to find out - go to an you tube video on Netvision and 012, get the URL and resolve it through the respective companies connections (so that GeoIP will give you the right Akamai node) and trace route to that node from each ISP. The netvision trip should be very short to their data center while the 012 is probably long haul aboard or goes through the IIX (less likely). Again, just guessing. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net The biggest risk you can take it is to take no risk. -- Mark Zuckerberg and probably others ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] The off-line scheduler by Raz Ben-Yehuda
Hi all, Reminder: Herzelinux club will meet tomorrow, Thursday 2 Oct. at 18:30 to enjoy Raz Ben-Yehuda lecture about the his project, The off-line scheduler. OFFSCHED is a platform aimed to assign an assignment to an offloaded processor. An offloaded processor is a processor that is hot un-plugged from the operating system. In today's computer world, we find that most processors have several embedded cores and hyper-threading. Most programmers do not really use these powerful features and let the operating system do the work. At most, a programmer will bound an application to a certain processor or assign an interrupt to a different processor. At the end, we get a system busy in maintaining tasks across processors, balancing interrupts, flushing TLBs and DTLBs using atomic operations even when not needed and worst of all, spin locks across processors in vein; and the more processors the merrier. I argue that in some cases, part of this behavior is due to fact the multiple core operating system is not service oriented but a system oriented. There is no easy way to assign a processor to do a distinct service, undisturbed, accurate, and fast as long as the processor is an active part of an operating system and still be a part of most of the operating system address space. The purpose of the OFFSCHED is to create a platform for services. For example, assume a system is being attacked; the Linux operating system will generate endless number of interrupts and/or softirqs to analyze the traffic and throw out bad packets. This is on the expense of good packets. Have you ever tried to ssh an attacked machine? Who protects the operating system? What if we can simply do the packet analysis outside the operating system without being interrupted? Why not assign a core to do only fire-walling ? Or just routing? Design a new type of Real Time system? Maybe assign it as an ultra accurate timer? Create a delaying service that does not just spin? Offload a TCP stack? Perhaps a new type of a locking scheme ? New type bottom-halves? Debug a running kernel through an offloaded processor? Maybe assign a GPU to do other things than just graphics? Amdahl Law teaches us that linear speed-up is not very feasible, so why not spare a processor to do certain tasks better? Technologically speaking, I am referring to the Linux kernel ability to virtually hot unplug a (SMT) processor ; but instead of letting it wonder in endless 'halts', assign it a service. *** Boilerplate template follows: Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such the meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 Hope to see you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Sorry cannot parse this, its too long to be true :) -- Eric Dumazet on netdev mailing list ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: jffs2 q
Hi Erez, Erez D wrote: i am compiling a new jffs2 image for an embedded device, and i get an error saying my erase size is wrong. how do i determine what is my erase size ? (so i can compare to a jffs2 file that works) is there a utility that can give info on jffs2 images, like what is their erase size ? Not that I know of, but assuming you can boot that working jffs2 image you can ask the Linux kernel what is the erase block size. target$ cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0002 0001 bootloader mtd1: 0002 0001 params mtd2: 0040 0001 kernel mtd3: 00bc 0001 filesystem Note the erasesize column. Hope this helps, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Sorry cannot parse this, its too long to be true :) -- Eric Dumazet on netdev mailing list ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: jffs2 q
Ori Idan wrote: The exact size depends on the actual device being used. Look at the device data sheet to see what is it's block size. Of course, but assuming he has a target board that works with a specific JFFS2 image, he can find out the erase block size using the procedure I outlined *for that board*. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Sorry cannot parse this, its too long to be true :) -- Eric Dumazet on netdev mailing list ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cellular company as ISP
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:47:49PM +0300, Guy Corem wrote: Bottom line: if you're planning to consume a lot of bandwidth, use ADSL / cables. Likewise if you plan on using VoIP. BTW: VoIP is actually not a major bandwith consumer. It is merely a competition to the service they provide. Actually, the MoC gave them a slap on the wrist regarding VoIP so now they are forbidden from messing with it. I'm using VoIP from time to time (not a lot) over Cellcom ISP and it works and I've witnessed no capping as far as I can tell. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Virtualization recommendation
Hi, We developed and support for years now a software product for tech support centers that uses KVM as a hypervisor. One installation at Canon in Japan runs 35 concurrent Vista/win2k/xp and soon Win7 instances. Each session is about a minute long (it is used by tech support people to help them guide clients to solve problems over phone/email. Sessions are accessed by users via VNC in their browser. There are 2000 such sessions a day. The start time for a new session with Vista (the heaviest OS) and an application ona loaded is between 6 to 9 seconds (well, let's say we are also have some resposability to this specific ability as upstream KVM doesn't do that. The perfomance, stability and flexability are unparalleled. They enabled us to develop a unique enterprise ready virtualization platform in record time and a cost which is lower then the license fees of a big installation of propritery solution for a single year. Xen and VirtualBox are nice and have their uses, but KVM is amazing. Gilad On Sep 16, 2009 3:14 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/16 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com: Don't mean to dis Xen or anyone, but... You can drop the eventually. KVM rocks :-) Care to give more details? Especially compared to Xen? I googled for kvm vs. xen but all the links I found so far talk about KVM's potential (and are a bit outdated). A view by someone who actually got their hands on it would be valuable. We use CentOS almost exclusively, though being able to run the odd Windows Server 2003 instance might be interesting to support legacy parts of our system. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Virtualization recommendation
Kvm lite is not very interesting. As for VirtualBox - if you want to run one VM, especially if you are on win or mac, virtualbox is really cool. Whenthe amount of VMs is measured in tens, id use KVM. Gilad Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/9/16 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com sklia...@gmail.com: Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that RH 5.4 is out with KVM preview tech, I'm not an expert but got the impression that KVM might get things better than Xen eventually. Don't mean to dis Xen or anyone, but... You can drop the eventually. KVM rocks :-) Gilad ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] lecture today
Hi, To anyone who is wondering - yes, today lecture, The good, bad and ugly - of threads, processes and coprocesses by yours truely, will take place today at Herzelinux as scheduled. Details are on the web site. I haven't announced to the list because I am a lazy bastard^H^H^H been too busy. Hope to see some of you there. Gilad ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Virtualization recommendation
Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/9/16 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that RH 5.4 is out with KVM preview tech, I'm not an expert but got the impression that KVM might get things better than Xen eventually. Don't mean to dis Xen or anyone, but... You can drop the eventually. KVM rocks :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Skype: gilad_codefidence Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: an open phone from nokia ?
Shachar Shemesh wrote: I am much more worried about Android's lack of friendliness to third party applications (unless they come through the Market) than I am about the fact it is running a non-standard environment. What do you mean by Android's lack of friendliness to third party applications (unless they come through the Market)? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: an open phone from nokia ?
Hi, You have been severly misinformed. All you need to install using USB is the free as in speech Google SDK and USB cable that comes with the phone. Adb is running on all phones and you don't need to be root to install applications. More important, you can install application by simply downloading an .apk file with the built in browser, assuming you check one checkbox in the GUI settings for security purposes. And last, Google does not validate apps in the market and the developer fee is one time 25$. Not exactly a big barrierr. In other words: what you're talking about, Willis^H^HShahar? Gilad Shachar Shemesh wrote: I am much more worried about Android's lack of friendliness to third party applications (unless they come through the Market) than I am about the fact it is running a non-standard environment. What do you mean by Android's lack of friendliness to third party applications (unless they come through the Market)? I mean that anyone can develop for the android, but if you actually want to install something on the actual phone, you are up to the mercy of whoever sold it to you (unless you root it, of course, in which case even the iPhone is open). I am not sure what is required to be able to do adb install from a PC, but it certainly requires that adb be running, possibly also requires root. Without that, if it's not in the Market (approved by Google, pending a yearly fee), it doesn't exist. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: an open phone from nokia ?
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Adb is running on all phones and you don't need to be root to install applications. The Samsung Galaxy, at least as sold by Cellcom, does not run ADB by default. Even when I set USB debugging, I cannot see the phone when I do adb devices, and cannot connect to it (let alone install anything on it). Not sure, but I'm guessing it might be a problem with your setup, rather then a Smasung imposed limit. Are you sure you have set up the ADB udev rules correctly? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: an open phone from nokia ?
Shachar Shemesh wrote: The Samsung Galaxy, at least as sold by Cellcom, does not run ADB by default. Even when I set USB debugging, I cannot see the phone when I do adb devices, and cannot connect to it (let alone install anything on it). Not sure, but I'm guessing it might be a problem with your setup, rather then a Smasung imposed limit. Are you sure you have set up the ADB udev rules correctly? I'm connecting to other Android devices without a problem. That's because the USB vendor/product properties for the Samsung are different then your HTC made ones (different vendor), which means the udev rule needs to be different. You also need to patch the adb client soruces with the different vendor ID. RTFG, for example: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/msg/ae589dcd4ce8810d?pli=1 Gilad :-) -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?
Michael Tewner wrote: Until, of course, the invention of the flux capacitor... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine Oh, anything is possible if you travel through space-time in a DeLorean... In particular, when you travel close to the speed of light you emit mostly in the forward direction, not isotropically... ;-) when you travel close to the speed of light 88 Miles per hour? Despite popular belief, the speed of light is only fixed in vacuum and scientists long acknowledged the fact that light may travels in different and lesser speeds when going through different materials, such as air, or water. 88 miles per hour, it would seem, is the speed of light as it travels through Hollywood movies. I specifically state Hollywood here, because, recent evidence show that speed traveling via a French movie for example, will be closer to 25kph, whereas in Bollywood movie it would be infinitesimally close to 88 miles per day. Interesting enough, Light travels through Israeli movies in speed close to American ones (88 mph) but, complain much more then the American counterpart when it doing so. Strangely, a love affair between an homosexual Palestinian Sumu wrestler who is in fact a Mossad agent living in Lod is also involved. And don't even get me started on the speed of Lite. Gilad :-) -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Once you have satisfied yourself that N=3, you can derive R^-2 easily from flux considerations. Until, of course, the invention of the flux capacitor... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine Gilad :-) -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] Wireless in Linux By Rami Rosen
Hi all, After a short summer hiatus, Herzelinux club will meet again this Thursday to enjoy Rami Rosen lecture about the Linux wireless stack. The lecture will delve into the following topics: * Short history of Linux Wireless : fullmac and softmac. * Wireless Modes of operation: infrastructure mode, independent mode (IBSS), and more. * The Linux Wireless stack (mac80211). * MLME (the management layer). * MLME operations: scanning, association. * RFmon. (monitor mode) and sniffing. * A short survey of recent development in Linux Wireless (80211.n, mesh networking, and more). Slides available from: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux/herzelinux-lectures/linux-wireless/ The next lectures in our queue are: * Sep 17 2009, 18:30 - The good, the bad and the ugly: threads, processes and co-processes in multi-core environments, by Gilad Ben-Yossef Don't see your name here? you should! contact me to volunteer to give the next lecture. And here is a message from our sponsor, Hi Tech College - they have courses on some of the topics covered by the club lectures. Check them out at http://hi-tech.co.il/college. Thees guys are sponsoring the room, parking and coffee for free, so show them some love next time you're looking for training. Boilerplate template follows: Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such the meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Looking for Jerusalem DID
Hi, Geoff Shang wrote: Skype does not seem to provide Israeli numbers in it's Online Phone Number service. I've Googled for DID providers who will send calls to Skype, but all the ones I've found only seem to offer Tel Aviv DIDs. I don't mind if the DID provider only provides SIP or IAX, so long as there's some other way of getting it to Skype. Unfortunately, all the offerings I've looked at for doing so require you to run a copy of the Linux Skype client, something I'm a bit reluctant to look at (though I will if it's the only way to go). I did find one commercial service doing SIPSkype interconnects, but their rates started at 10 lines and I only need 1. I need to have this squared away in a couple of days. Any suggestions at all will be most greatfully received. Can't help you with the DID, but do note that Skype issued a beta of Skype Asterisk integration and it is free till the end of the month. I have no idea what the taarif would be after that. So, if you find you DID, and you run Asterisk, you can forward the SIP channel to a Skype name at your content. Of course, Skype is evil, standard disclaimer applies, batteries not included yada yada yada... Hope this helps, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Looking for Jerusalem DID
shimi wrote: It is. http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=804-00019 I am using it and it works. A little bit of warning though - It used to crash latest Asterisk 1.6 (due to a bug in Asterisk, not SFA), but it was resolved when I installed 1.6.1.3-rc1 (and of course trunk is ok too). It seems to be working stable enough with latest 1.4. Gilad -- Shimi -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [YBA] Freescale i.MX27 project
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Hi Shachar, Without knowing the details... You don't need any more details, you hit the nail on the head. The question is, who would take such a project? Actually, that's an easy one. Assuming the penalties are capped by the amount you are supposed to receive (i.e. - you do not end up owing them money), someone who wants to build up their resume and without a likely source of income for the coming five weeks can actually turn a profit on this job, whether he makes it on time or not. The profit is, of course, non-monetary. I'm sorry Shachar, you are not being devious enough: 1. Offer quote that say you'll do it for 100k$ if on time, 25k$ if delivered in 10 weeks, and 1k$ if failed to deliver after 10 weeks. Assuming they take it: 2. Wait 10 weeks 3. Profit! Gilad :-) -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Building 32 bit (Intel X86) kernel module on a 64 bit (Intel x86_64) machine
Dan Shimshoni wrote: For that I need to build a 32 bit gcc compiler on the x86_64 machine (cross compiler). There are various tools for buildings such a cross compiler. One is Dan Kegel tool: http://kegel.com/crosstool/ Another tool is Cross-Compiled Linux From Scratch: http://cross-lfs.org/view/1.1.0/x86_64/introduction/chapter.html I want to add that make ARCH=i686 (on the 64 bit machine) gave me errors (and also trying to passing various gcc 32 bit arch flags ). It seems to me that both these tools are more complicated then needed. That's because you don't appreciate the complexity of the task :-) But you are right, there is a better way to build cross compilers - crosstool-ng (http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/dokuwiki/projects/crosstool) Using it building a cross compiler is simple as: hg clone http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/hg/crosstool-ng ./configure make make install cd /your/development/directory ct-ng help ct-ng menuconfig ct-ng build Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SOLVED Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use
Lev Olshvang wrote: BTW, is there any way to track next line from /proc/devices 8 sd which modules actually made possible access to devices 8,0 ??? The information is available via sysfs some where ... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Job Offer] Senior Embedded Linux Software Engineer
Hi All, Codefidence, where I work, is trying to assist one of our clients to recruit a long term employee. The client is a startup company in the area of advanced networking and is located in Netanya. Again, this is a full time position in Netanta. No freelancers, part timers for this one please. Following is the work description: *Senior Middleware / Embedded LINUX Software Engineer**_ _*** *Job Description_ _* * This person will be involved in the distributed network infrastructure design and development. This includes definition, specification and implementation of SW infrastructure, HA, shelf management, installation, security, etc. * The position will require close interaction with other teams inside the company. *Preferred Skills_ _* * B.SC in Computer Science, SW Engineering or the equivalent. * At least *3-5* years development experience in Linux networking - */must/*. * In-depth knowledge of OS such as UNIX, Linux - */must/*. * S/he should have hands-on experience in embedded C, Scripts, well-known protocols, UNIX/Linux services, High-Availability solutions, Software packaging, etc. * Clusters and distributed system -- /advantage/. * Algorithm development -- /advantage/. * Embedded Linux experience -- /advantage/. * BSP experience -- /advantage/. * ATCA experience -- /advantage/. * HPI/IPMI experience -- /advantage/. Looking forward for your resumes. You are more welcome to forward this email to people you might think are interested, but please no mailing list, message boards etc. Thanks! Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use
Lev Olshvang wrote: Boker Everybody, I recently experienced a strange problem: The system is based on Ubuntu kernel 2.6.28 which I compiled and built initramfs for it provided with a driver for ide disk (pata_via.ko) grub should boot this system from the root=/dev/sda1 The boot process stops on a famous message waiting for a root file system. But then it enters the busybox prompt and I see that /dev/sda1 is indeed exist, I can mount it and access files. I do not understand this : root device is ready, but boot process is stuck ?? Simple: You either use an initramfs, and if so your initramfs should mount the real root file system itself using switch_root() or you don't use an initramfs and let the kernel mount it (but then you need the driver compiled into the kernel). Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: I do not understand this : root device is ready, but boot process is stuck ?? Simple: You either use an initramfs, and if so your initramfs should mount the real root file system itself using switch_root() or you don't use an initramfs and let the kernel mount it (but then you need the driver compiled into the kernel). Gilad As a nitpicking, if you are using initrd, there is a mode of operation where the initrd (linuxrc script) loads the kernel module, but the kernel does the actual mounting. I Yes, but initramfs does not support it AFAIK and I wouldn't recommend anyone to use initrd in favour of initramfs for any system with 2.6 kernel. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: August Penguin 2009 Keysigning party
Shay Ohayon wrote: Facebook Event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=126258460658 For any questions, suggestions or the like, please feel free to contact me directly. Was the classification of this event in Facebook Type field as: Party - Erotic Party intentional? :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
BIND_TO DEVICE and the loopback interface
Hello List, A friend presented me with a difficult problem which I don't have a solution for and I thought someone here on the list might have an idea. The problem is as follows: You have an application running on a machine that has two network interfaces. One for management and one for media. You have a network server application (it's a SIP UA but that doesn't matter much) that is bound to an IP on the media network interface. Because the media and management networks might be completely different, you use the BIND_TO_DEVICE socket option om the server sockets so that the kernel will only route traffic for that socket via that device. Normally, the clients that speak to the server are outside the machine and sit on the media network, and everything works. However, there is one exception - you have a single client which runs on the machine itself that needs to talk to the server. The client tries to connect to the server IP, but since all IP traffic inside the machine is automatically routed via the loopback network interface (lo), and since the server forces the kernel to only route traffic via the media interface, we have a routing failure and the client can't talk to the server. However, if you were to remove the server BIND_TO_DEVICE and everything works. Required: a solution, generic as possible, extra points for no need to change server and client apps :-) Already suggested and reject by my friend: OK, I found a solution. It does require some work but it'll do the job: You will need to hijack the socket, bind, connect (for TCP) and sendto, recvfrom (for UDP) C library calls. See http://tuxology.net/2008/05/15/forcing-connections-through-a-specific-interface/ for an example of how to hijack the library calls. Using these hijacked library calls, whenever the application opens a socket, you create another shadow socket which is not bound to the outside interface. Then for each bind/connect/sendto and recvfrom call, use the appropriate socket (bound to device or otherwise) according to the destination - external or internal. Since the hijacking is done by writing an external library and forcing the application to load it by setting an environment variable, no changes to the application is required. The reason for rejection is: There will be a clash if 2 instances of the application use the same port... The solver will win fame and my eternal gratitude. :-) Is there anyone up for the challenge? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Compiling glibc2.9 on ubuntu - stack-protector functions are undefined
Lev Olshvang wrote: Hi linuxers, I am trying to compile glibc2.9 on Ubuntu 7.10 and I am experiencing chicken and egg problem : Here the steps I do 1. ../glibc-2-.9/configure 2. make Result: dl-load.c:1796: more undefined references to `__stack_chk_fail_local' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Google search reveals that this function belong to stack-protector feature and advised to turn it off So I removed buid directory to start again 1 . export CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector export CXXFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector 2. ../glibc-2-.9/configure 3. make Result glibc-build/config.h:3:3: error: #error glibc cannot be compiled without optimization Can smb advise on this ? You overrode the default CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS with your own version - which does not include -O Add -O2 to your CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS. Possibly other flags are needs as well. See which flags are used by default. Gilad Thanks, Lev ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Service/port based routing
geoffrey mendelson wrote: I have two routers on my network. let's say 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2. One connects to Netvision the other to 012. Now host based routing is simple, e.g. I can say route all packets to host 1.2.3.4 via gateway 192.168.1.1 and using a default route, everything else via 192.168.1.2. What I want to do is become more granular. I want to be able to route all packets to/from a specific port via one router, and everything else to use the default route. These are all connections to/from this particular system, I don't need to do it for everything on my network, or I can do it indiviudally. Currently the systems are running Ubuntu 9.04 with the latest kernel, but if I need to I can change them. Either do it globally with packet marks and specific routing table as Shimi suggested, or, which may or may not be simpler in your case depending on the specifics, you ca force connection from a specific socket or application via a specific device - here's how: http://tuxology.net/2008/05/15/forcing-connections-through-a-specific-interface/ Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net Now the world has gone to bed Darkness won't engulf my head I can see by infra-red How I hate the night. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Job Offer] Linux C/C++ developer and Open Source software integrator temporary position
Hi all, Codefidence is looking for a C Linux programmer and Open Source software integrator for an upcoming project. This is a temporary project position, for a time frame of 2 - 3 months, with continued employment as a regular staff member possible but not guaranteed. Freelancers are welcome, as long as they can be dedicated to the project. Full time or almost full time only please. For details about Codefidence, take a look at our web site: http://codefidence.com, and our community sute http://tuxology.net Good knowledge of C, simple shell scripting and Linux (as a user and developer), as well as good inter personal skills, are required. Knowledge of Python, Perl, C++ and/or Ruby an advantage. Embedded systems background and/or kernel level development an advantage. Active participation in a Open Source software project as a coder - a big advantage. Work will be conducted in Codefidence offices in Rehovot/Ness Ziona science part (7 minutes walk from the train station). This is a entry to middle level position. Gaining loads of practical experience in a required technology field, working with the best, active tutoring, and a cheerful Open Source friendly and loving working environment are the highlight of this position, as well as all the Lavazza coffee and Soda you can drink. Any questions? want to apply? contact me (gi...@codefidence.com). Please refrain from forwarding this email to other forums with asking me first. Many thanks! Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone
Shay Ohayon wrote: There is also a talk given by Gilad Ben-Yoseff (anyone know if the slides of the presentation are available somewhere?) and the documentation for development is pretty good. Slides and video of the lecture (thanbks to Yael Vaya and Crictor) are here: http://tuxology.net/lectures/google-android-open-source-phone-stack/ Hebrew support is fine, you just install the fonts and its there (gilad also has a post about this) and someone wrote an application called hebkeys that i havent tested but gives you a virtual keyboard on screen for hebrew typing. The fonts are on my blog http://firstpost.org/. Hebkeys, by Hezi Cohen, is here: http://code.snippets.co.il/hebkey and the latest pre-release version also supports the hardware keyboard of the G1. This makes me look into direction of Android G1. It is too young to have elaborated applications support, but it already has Actually, the application support for Android is remarkably good for something which is only commercially available for 6 months. For example, I just spotted today a Home screen widget that displays Haaretz news headlines (in Hebrew) in the Android application market today... My bottom line would be: if X is openess of the phone stack and Y is it's quality, then Android based phones have the highest X*Y ratio I know... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux SBC recommendations
Guy Corem wrote: Hi list, I'm looking for a Linux capable SBC. Preferably x86, with good SDK, WiFi (n will be nice) and at least three hi-speed USB ports. My budget is up to 300$. Any recommendations? A. Get A Sheevaplug (99$) or a Beagle board (150$) and add a good hi speed USB hub and USB Wifi? http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/kirkwood/plugcomputer.jsp http://beagleboard.org/ Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux SBC recommendations
Guy Corem wrote: Gilad, My concerns with ARM based Linux: How will the 3g modems behave. Specifically the drivers. Do you have experience with it? Get a good USB connected 3g modem and test it on a PC running Linux first and I don't think you should have problems. Most 3G modems appear as a USB serial port anyway. It's not like you need special drivers for those. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux SBC recommendations
Guy Corem wrote: Gilad, My concerns with ARM based Linux: How will the 3g modems behave. Specifically the drivers. Do you have experience with it? Get a good 3g modem and test it on a PC running Linux first and I don't think you should have problems. Most 3G modems appear as a UART (aka serial port) anyway. It's not like you need special drivers for those. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: recommended remote backup service?
Dvir Volk wrote: Hi, I need to find a new, secure and very reliable remote backup service for my employer's office server. This will be used to backup mainly stuff like SVN dumps, TRAC database, etc. 10-20 gigs should be more than enough, and ssh/rsync/sftp etc. scriptable access is a must. any recommendations? We use duplicity to backup similar stuff to Amazon S3. Duplicity does all the heavy lifting of compression, delta, encryption with GPG. Amazon S3 just needs to be there for you to grab the file (even if someone grabs the files they are GPG encrypted). If you trust Amazon S3 to be there when you need the files, I highly recommend it. Gilad ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Haifux] YOM HA'SHOA ?? [HAIFUX Lecture] OpenCL Overview - Ofer Rosenberg
Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: c. Wish to come, and have a problem with the date because it is today and I need more advanced notice :) Hi Yossef, Shlomi (with regard to Herzelinux) and all, Please note that Haifux has an RSS feed, which is updated when a new lecture is announced (months in advance) as well as a google calendar, all available through http://haifux.org/future.html. Once upon a time Gabor and I tried to have all Israeli Linux club events exported in RSS, so that an upcoming events lists could be compiled Haifux and Telux still support this method. http://haifux.org/cal.html Actually, Herzelinux has that too, as well iCal. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 To kill a copyright lawyer, put it between two mirrors. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: what kind of trick is that?
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Anyone who've installed and used webmin, probably saw this part: you're missing a part (like SSL?) and webmin compiles it for you. What I would like to know is how they did the trick that the page is constantly updating while downloading/compiling/iinstalling, all the text appears as it's progress.. I want to write a simple shell script that uses lftp. lftp has this neat feature that while it downloads, it shows a nice progress bar, and I want to create a simple script that will show that progress bar with lftp - on a page without refreshing it. Your Google keyword of the day is Ajax. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: European VPS hosting
Yes, it was a typo. The name is rimu hosting. Gilad Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net wrote: I've had an superb experience with MiroHosting. Are you sure about the company name spelling? Can you send a direct link -- yuval -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity.___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: European VPS hosting
Geoff Shang wrote: Hi, Excuse if this is offtopic. Was wondering if anyone had any recommendations pro or con any European or UK based VPS hosters. I'm helping to start a project and am shopping around for somewhere to host it. I'm wanting a hoster who offers Debian and who can handle sales and support in English. Desirable is an SSH console rather than a web interface for controling the host in the event of trouble, and the ability to purchase extra capacity if required. I've had an superb experience with MiroHosting. We currently host a VPS at their London data center (they also cover Austrlia both coasts of the US) and the service is excellent. They support VPS console over SSH (but also have a web interface) and at least Ubuntu, but from what I know of their customer support they will support Debian even if it is not a standard option. To explain what kind of company I'm talking about I called them up to query about storage expansion costs and was promptly notified that since they updated their pricing list since I've signed up to lower price I will get the upgrade for free *and* pay 2$ less... (it did required migrating the VPS to a different data center). Highly recommended. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Is there a way to print from the cliboard?
Michael Shiloh wrote: I'm editing a file, or viewing a web page, or whatever. I'm interested in printing only a small portion of it. I'd like to be able to essentially print selection. Of course this would require that each program (gvim, firefox, thunderbird, terminal, whatever) provide such an option. Alternately, I can copy to my clipboard, and then through some clever utility (I assume there are clipboard utilities?) print from clipboard. This would work with any source, regardless of whether the program supports printing selection or not. But when I searched I could not find the answer. Anyone know? Does such a think exist? $ xclip -o | lpr but it works only with text... :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] Code control using ther GNU linker by Raviv Haim
Hi all, After all the soft stuff from last lectures we've got one for the hard core developers this week - this Thursday, March 19, at 18:30 in Hi Tech Collage - Maskit 27 Herzliya Pituach, Raviv Haim from Trego ltd. (http://trego.co.il) will talk about better control of the link process. Here is the abstract: Embedded systems often requires full control of how the program code and data resides in memory, this enables better control of your system performance and adjustment to memory constrains. The lecture covers: 1. GNU linker default link settings. 2. Linking the code without external start files. 3. Splitting code and data to different memory segments. 4. Packing the output in binary format. During the lecture I will tweak the GNU make environment and will demonstrate the outcome while browsing the map file. The next lectures in our queue are: - Thu April 12 18:30: Lissa Sterling about developing Cellular applications. - Thu April 23 18:30: Gilad Ben Yossef on Do Android Dream of Electronic Sheep, or Dude! there's a firewall on my cellphone... A big thank you to all our volunteer presenters without which Herzelinux would not have been possible. We're looking forward to add more lectures to the queue, so if you have an interesting topic to talk about we'd love to host you. And here is a message from our sponsor, Hi Tech College - they have courses on some of the topics covered by the club lectures. Check them out at http://hi-tech.co.il/college. Thees guys are sponsoring the room, parking and coffee for free, so show them some love next time you're looking for training. Boilerplate template follows: Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
Arie Skliarouk wrote: How do they solve the latency problems inherent to any internet connection? The round trip time to a well connected (read: 0% packet loss) server in Israel from an Israeli ISP, where Israel here is defined as connected to the IIX, is under 50ms. On a 150kbit upload ADSL upload of a 1500 bytes packet takes about 85ms. To send out the VoIP packet would take another 85ms (on condition that you have a really good QoS). This causes latency of 85-170ms with jitter 85ms. The VoIP speech (SIP protocol) has a lot of skips and is unacceptable. ahem... accept in real life VoIP packets are rarely larger then 250 bytes (most of the time then are not over 100 byes) and that the SIP protocol doesn't actually carry any media (read: voice) information - that is left for RTP. More to the point - VoIP , in general works great. In the (very distant) past been on the technical team of a VoIP start up and trust me - VoIP works great on ADSL lines. Theory aside, I would like to hear first-hand experiences of people with 018 before I commit for a year of phone service with them. That I agree completely - that fact that VoIP works doesn't means that 018 do... :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
e2xbegqsdyt21hfc wrote: I don't know the technical details or 018. I do know that 012 provides you with a sip adapter that is plugged between the bezeq/hot modem and your PC/ordinary phone. It could be that that adapter reserve some BW for the sip packets. SIP doesn't actually carry voice, only the control information. Voice is carried in RTP packets and they are normally around 100 bytes. In any case, my experience is that both 750K ADSl/cables is sufficient for a good quality phone service, with a lightly usage for internet and phone. The sip adapter I initially had was made in the US. I assume they use a US proven technology. My current sip adapter is made by AudioCodes. 012 claims that the sip adapter they provide should work with any ISP. I had two ISPs, and in my case their claim is justified. BTW, I have it from very good sources that there exists newer versions of the AudioCodes adapters that actually run on Linux and there is even an up market version that runs Asterisk... :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
Arie Skliarouk wrote: How do they solve the latency problems inherent to any internet connection? The round trip time to a well connected (read: 0% packet loss) server in Israel from an Israeli ISP, where Israel here is defined as connected to the IIX, is under 50ms. The jitter less then 1ms and as jitter buffer translate jitter to latency, you can just take it as 60ms delay with a huge margin. The latency at which most people start finding delay in telephone calls intolerable is around 500ms (depending on codec and other aspects of course), so there is really no problem. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily YES)
Erez D wrote: hi After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the world, (using linux of course) I was think of giving a presentation of sattelite TV and linux do you think people will be interested ? I'm interested! Pick any Thursday in the month of May and we'll be happy to host you in Herzlinux :-) Thanks, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] Thinking in Drupal by Lior Kesos, Linnovate
Hi all, Another rare treat this week at Herzelinux - Lior Kesos on Drupal, this Thursday, Feb 19 at 18:30 in Hi Tech Collage - Maskit 27 Herzliya Pituach, Israel (free entrance, free parking, free cookies coffee). If you ever build anything for the web you really should come hear this lecture on how web apps are built in the 21st century using the Open Source Drupal framework from the Israeli Drupal Guru himself. Abstract: Drupal (and cms's at large) present a new way of assembling web sites and applications. In the lecture we will try to introduce what it means to Think in Drupal, Changing the way you approach web based software development. This is done by using the award winning drupal development framework and it's widely used contributed modules (cck, view, nodequeue, flag, services, actions etc.. ) In addition to Lior lecture, we have the following line up of upcoming lectures: - Thu March 21 18:30: Code control using ther GNU linker by Raviv haim - Thu April 12 18:30: Lissa Sterling about developing Cellular applications. - Thu April 23 18:30: Do Android Dream of Electronic Sheep, or Dude! there's a firewall on my cellphone...by Gilad Ben-Yossef I would like to take this opportunity to thank our volunteer presenters without which Herzelinux would not have been possible and to invite people reading this consider joining their ranks - so drop me a note with your preferred Open Source or Linux topic today :-) Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How You Can Help the Tel Aviv Open Source Club
Shlomi, Shlomi Fish wrote: Yesterday we held a meeting where Zvi Devir gave his Windows Refund HOWTO, which was an interesting presentation about a widely-discussed topic, that received a lot of publicity. I publicised this meeting on several mailing lists, as well as on whatsup, linmagazine, and other forums. We also have some feeds, and a Google calendar for the events (also in iCal format) if people wish to subscribe to them exclusively. However, despite all that, only 5-6 people (including the presenter and me) came to hear the talk. The question is why? Please don't take it so hard. It's just normal artifact of a club meeting that requires no RSVP. In Herzelinux we've just had two very interesting lectures, one three weeks after the other: 6 people showed up to the first and over 25 to the second (we ran out of chairs in the room...). It just depends on a bazillion things going on in people's life. Maybe there was a good soccer match yesterday :-) I'd suggest adding an RSVP option to meetings and only doing the meeting if enough people RSVP but I sort of doubt that this will work... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux spam on wikipedia.
Ira, Ira Abramov wrote: FYI and FWIMC, I just removed two links from the Hebrew Wikipedia article Linux that pointed to a little consultancy firm called Jaya who seems to be all into SAP and hates RHAT for some odd reason. The website seems two weeks old, based on the Forum entries. I know Miki personally and he is not a bad person. A little misguided about marketing it seems, but I don't think he is a spammer. I forwarded your email to him and I do believe this is a mistake rather then a habit. Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/11 Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com: I've been using Asterisk for the last 4 years. Never had a reason to move to Freeswitch. Asterisk rarely crash, (we have more than 15M minutes) Asterisk runs Codefidence IPBX for more then 5 years. Never seen a crash. Asterisk runs the Tel Aviv branch of the Israeli Law bar Odphone system(Lishkat Orchey Ha Dim Mahuz TA) for more then an year now. The only two reported bugs were hardware (firmware update from Sangoma fixed that ) and our own software :-) I and others can go on. Asterisk works. I donno about the other stuff (FreePBX etc.) but Asterisk is prodction level system *If you know what you are doing*. Being that you are an experienced Linux user that has no issue editing rc files or RTFM I believe you've already got 95% of the reasons why Asterisk installation fail covered. :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/11 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com: I and others can go on. Asterisk works. I donno about the other stuff Thanks for the testimonial. (FreePBX etc.) but Asterisk is prodction level system *If you know what you FreePBX claims to be a nice web gui for Asterisk, that's why I asked about it. are doing*. Being that you are an experienced Linux user that has no issue editing rc files or RTFM I believe you've already got 95% of the reasons why Asterisk installation fail covered. :-) Thanks for the reassurance. I've just ordered a vpslink Xen guest but the ssh latency from my home is very slow (I'm actually connected through a pretty good ISP). I'll try it from work tomorrow. Is 200ms ping time too much for SIP, or is it irrelevant. Very relevant. Callers usually notice roundtrip voice delays of 250ms or more.The recommendation for VoIP is a one way delay of less then 150ms. Anything more will become very noticeable in conversation and in real life 150ms is too high as well since jitter before induce around 10ms addtional latency. In your case, 200ms round trip time, assuming a symmetric distribution, of delay (but mind you that the internet isn't really symmetrical...) is 100ms one way delay so this is not excellent but not really bad either. In theory, at least, you shouldn't be able to notice this delay in conversation. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Is 200ms ping time too much for SIP, or is it irrelevant. Very relevant. Callers usually notice roundtrip voice delays of 250ms or more.The recommendation for VoIP is a one way delay of less then 150ms. Anything more will become very noticeable in conversation and in real life 150ms is too high as well since jitter before induce around 10ms addtional latency. In your case, 200ms round trip time, assuming a symmetric distribution, of delay (but mind you that the internet isn't really symmetrical...) is 100ms one way delay so this is not excellent but not really bad either. In theory, at least, you shouldn't be able to notice this delay in conversation. Forgot to add - here is a great resournce for all things VoIP QoS: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-QoS Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: kgdb usage errors on strictly following kgdb authorss guide
Lev Olshvang wrote: Hello all, I am looking for explanation of the kgdb errors and usage advice. I am running Linux 2.6.15.5 system with a kgdb patches from the kgfb.linsyssoft.com. I built a kernel with ethernet driver included (not module) and KGDB remote debug enable over Ethernet. I am trying to strictly follow the guide I had downloaded from linsyssoft.com First I tried to run debug other ethernet using kgdboe parameter on boot I built a kernel with ethernet driver included (not module) and KGDB remote debug enable over Ethernet. And the gdb session was stuck because the target system did not answered to ARP requsests for 10.0.0.3 The corresponding section from gub.conf is title Linux-2.6.15.5-kgdb(eth) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15.5-kgdb ro root=/dev/hda1 kgdb...@10.0.0.6/,@10.0.0.3/ console=ttyS0,115200 So I suppose I should manually load network driver, but how can I do it from boot line and assign IP address to it ? The answers, as very often with such simple questions, are in the kernel documentation directory: Add ip=client-ip:server-ip:gw-ip:netmask:hostname:device:autoconf to the kernel command line. See http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.28.4/Documentation/filesystems/nfsroot.txt#L80 for the details --- The second attempt I took with a serial 8250 driver I had build new kernel with Serial driver configured for remote debugging and changed boot line to : kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.13-kgdb ro root=/dev/hda1 kgdbwait kgdb8250=1,115200 *Question1 : - docs says it must be kgdb8250=ttyS1,115200, * but when I tried this , the debug session even did not come to kgdb breakpoint. I'm guessing it needs to be ttyS0 and not 1. gdbmod-2.4 ./vmlinux itle Linux-2.6.15.5-kgdb(eth) GNU gdb 6.4 Copyright 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i686-pc-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) set remotebaud 115200 (gdb) target remote /dev/ttyS0 Remote debugging using /dev/ttyS0 breakpoint () at kernel/kgdb.c:1888 1888atomic_set(kgdb_setting_breakpoint, 0); (gdb) cont Continuing. [17179569.184000] Waiting for connection from remote gdb... [*17179569.184000] Invalid syntax for option kgdb8250=* [New thread 1737] Error while mapping shared library sections: ide_disk.ko: Success. Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. [New thread 1774] Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. [New thread 1747] Error while mapping shared library sections: generic.ko: Success. Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: generic.ko: No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: ide_disk.ko: No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: generic.ko: No such file or directory. [New thread 1757] Error while mapping shared library sections Question 3 : Are those Succeses and Errors normal No. I think you are missing the path to where the target kernel modules are. It should something like set solib-absolute-prefix /dev/null set solib-search-path /path/to/kernel/modules Question 4: How I can command to load my module from gdb line and set a breakpoint to the function I would like to debug ? Just load your modules on the target and then break in gdb and plant the break point. you can also plant a break point before loading the module (a defered break point) if you want to break in the module init function.\ Gilad Regards to the kenel gurus. Lev ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: USB gadget linux connection
Moshe Gorohovsky wrote: Hi all, How to detect USB gadget linux connection to another host? Are there /sys or /proc files that I can see from them, if the system is connected to another host, via a USB cable? - Moshe You get a hotplug event when a new USB host is connected. See: http://linux.die.net/man/8/hotplug Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [YBA] TCP connection rate
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Hi Marc,
The .NET client has a bug that prevents use of persistent MySQL
connections. The application is already cached up the wazoo.
Where would I look in the kernel to see if it is rejecting the
connections as opposed to MySQL? Or is this just unlikely given that
the hardware is fairly robust?
I don't know of a way to get the statistics from the kernel for that,
but maybe this will help:
The duration that affects the rate at which new connections are
accepted is the time spent on the queue of pending incoming connections.
This duration is equal to the round trip time for the SYN|ACK message
and its ACK response plus the time taken for the client to process the
SYN|ACK message plus the delay for the server to process the ACK and
call *accept()*.
The rate at which new connections can be accepted is equal to the number
of entries which can fit on the listen queue divided by the average
length of time each entry spends on the queue. Therefore, the larger the
queue, the greater the rate at which new connection requests can be
accepted.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/files/linuxjournal.com/linuxjournal/articles/023/2333/2333s2.html
Thanks,
- yba
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, m...@swiftouch.com wrote:
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:28:21 +0200 (IST)
From: m...@swiftouch.com
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com, ILUG
linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: [YBA] TCP connection rate
Hi all
Without delving into the stack behaviour, I would try the
(potentially) cheaper route - is there a possibility of amalgamating
queries to the database, thereby reducing the per second metric? Or -
perish the thought (caveat emptor, I am not acquainted with the app)
- caching replies at the client?
I am not sure the netstat trick can work in this case - both since
(as YBA noted) the connexions are brief and because netstat deals
with connections very late in their lifecycle. I am not sure how
connexions pending on the stack would show up.
M
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Marc. Volovic
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On Feb 2, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote:
Hi Gilad,
Thanks. The problem is that the connections are exceedingly
short-lived. By the time I type in netstat -na already 1000 of
them have come and gone.
- yba
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:29:23 +0200
From: Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: [YBA] TCP connection rate
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Dear list members,
What limits the rate that the Linux kernel TCP stack can accept
new connections? How is that rate related to the rate that the
application listening on a port can handle the connections? That
is, if I try to connect and get ECONNREFUSED is there a way for me
to know if I got it because the kernel could not handle the
connection rate or if I got it because I had more connection
attempts than the backlog parameter of my listen() call? In other
words, do I need to tune the kernel or the application (MySQL) for
the desired high connection rate and how would I know?
Just check what the value of the backlog parameter is and then use
netstat to watch the application connections when you get
ECONNREFUSED error. If the number of connections in netstat is
equal (or at least very close to) the backlog parameter then it's
the backlog parameter, otherwise it's something else.
Gilad
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Re: [YBA] TCP connection rate
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Dear list members, What limits the rate that the Linux kernel TCP stack can accept new connections? How is that rate related to the rate that the application listening on a port can handle the connections? That is, if I try to connect and get ECONNREFUSED is there a way for me to know if I got it because the kernel could not handle the connection rate or if I got it because I had more connection attempts than the backlog parameter of my listen() call? In other words, do I need to tune the kernel or the application (MySQL) for the desired high connection rate and how would I know? Just check what the value of the backlog parameter is and then use netstat to watch the application connections when you get ECONNREFUSED error. If the number of connections in netstat is equal (or at least very close to) the backlog parameter then it's the backlog parameter, otherwise it's something else. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Herzelinux] Smart house using Linux and FOSS by Jonathan Kopel
Hi all, We got a real treat this week :-) On Thursday, Thursday, Jan 29 2009 at 18:30, Herzlinux will host Jonathan Kopel lecture entitled: Smart house using Linux and FOSS . Topics 1. Smart home definition: Main stream program in smart home . 2. Hardware: Implementation problem (The right wife you can't do it without her support) What the solution that answer my needs ? price, hardware, power. 3. My solution: hardware - nslu2, plcbus, 1wire, usb relays software - misterhouse, xap , drivers, Linux, owsf. 4. summary In addition, we have the following line up of upcoming lectures: - Thu Feb 19 18:30: Drupal CMS byLior Kesos from Linnovate ltd. - Thu March 21 18:30: Code control using ther GNU linker by Raviv haim - Thu April 12 18:30: Lissa Sterling about developing Cellular applications. - Thu April 23 18:30: Gilad Ben-Yossef on the Google Android phone stack. I would like to take this opportunity to thank our volunteer presenters without which Herzelinux would not have been possible and to invite people reading this consider joini their ranks - so drop me a note with your preferred Open Source or Linux topic today :-) Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). Well, an interesting longer term solution will be to use the Android stack of course, but being that it's MV4 you're talking about this is not the fast path I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Cross compiling sucks and MV4 is using old versions of well... everything - but you really need to supply some more details on what you tried and what didn't work. Have somebody already tried to do that? Use a build envrionment like buildroot, Ptxdist or Scratchbox. Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. The Nokia 770 is an Arm based Linux device and as it is a web tablet it obviously has a browser. They use Scratchbox - so that's a good start. Good luck, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: lockfs functionality in Linux
Hi Michael Michael Sternberg wrote: Does Linux have something like lockfs(1M) functionality in Solaris ? I want to lock filesystem on some particular volume for writes and to flush all caches of that filesystem. After that I want to release the lock. I'm guessing what you want is the file system freeze and thaw feature - I think it's scheduled for 2.6.29 (next version) if I'm not mistaken: http://lwn.net/Articles/287242/ Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] Eitan Isaacson on Accerciser - 15 Minutes A Day For Better Accessibility
Hi all, This is a reminder that on Thursday, Thursday, Jan 8 2009 at 18:30, Herzlinux will host Eitan Isaacson lecture entitled: Accerciser - 15 Minutes A Day For Better Accessibility The lecture topics: - Introduction to accessibility - Basic testing - Introduction to GNOME's accessibility framework - Introduction to Accerciser - Simple debugging example - The last mile to the screen reader About the presenter: Eitan is employed by the Mozilla foundation to driver better accessibility in Open Source software. In addition, we have the following line up of upcoming lectures: - Thu Jan 29 18:30: Smart House using Linux by Jonathan Kopel. - Thu Feb 19 18:30: Drupal CMS byLior Kesos from Linnovate ltd. - Date yet undetermined: Lissa Sterling about developing Cellular applications. I would like to take this opportunity to thank our volunteer presenters without which Herzelinux would not have been possible and to invite people reading this consider joini their ranks - so drop me a note with your preferred Open Source or Linux topic today :-) Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech College - there's a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting via Google Calender: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-cal To get updates the club meetings via iCal feed: http://tinyurl.com/Herzelinux-ical For Facebook lovers - join our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] Hai Zaar on Initramfs - boot your Linux well
Hi all, This is a reminder that tomorrow, Thursday, 18 Dec 2008 at 18:30, Herzelinux will host Hai Zaar lecture entitled Initramfs - boot your Linux well. This is the lecture was originally scheduled to last week but was postponed. The lecture will cover: * What happens between grub and init? * pre-initrd era, initrd era, new, initramfs, era. * Booting from various disks * Finding your boot fs by UUID * Booting from LVM, software RAID, dmraid * Booting from CD - how do you do it? * Introduction to udev. Rules writing Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college - there's on a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Off topic] Urgent help of a sysadmin of a Data General Aviion Unix sought
Hi, Sorry for the off topic post, but I'm trying to help a college in distress and thought here might be a good place to look - If anyone has any experience (or know anyone else that has experience) with administrating a Data General Aviion Unix machine, kindly contact Mr. Mehchem Geva at 050-5344435 or g...@one1.co.il promptly and be blessed. Thanks! Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam
Omer Zak wrote: During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them permission to continue to E-mail me. If you ever went to one of those free people Computers events, such as Go Linux, you signed an agreement to receive their publication. So it might not be my cup of tea or yours, but neither it is SPAM as the law defines it. Just unsubscribe and AFAIK they'll stop. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] Gilad Ben-Yossef on How Time Flies: Jiffies, Hi-Res Timers and the Tickless Kernel
Hi all, This is a reminder that on Thursday, 27 Nov at 18:30, Herzelinux will host yours truly (Gilad Ben-Yossef) lecture lecture entitled: How Time Flies: Jiffies, Hi-Res Timers and the Tickless Kernel. The lecture will explain the time keeping mechanisms in the Linux kernel and the recent changes that add better support for Real Time, power consumption and virtualization. Many thanks for Orna of Haifux for the great lecture idea :-) Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college - there's on a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: looking for job
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Hi Gabor, Have you or someone you know actually gotten FOSS related work this way? Speaking an an employer, I routinely look for FOSS related work when considering hiring someone and my experience there is a VERY good relation between good work performance and Open Source participation. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: Links and some info about IPv6 in Linux lecture in Herzelinux yesterday (6.11.08)
Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday, 9 בNovember 2008, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Oron Peled wrote: 2. ... only to be redirected to a login screen. Should our community content be held hostage behind some company login requirements? I don't really see the real issue here As a smart guy I'm sure you do, but I'll spell it out nevertheless: Access to the slides is *restricted* (to scribd subscribers) I still don't agree but I think it's turning too off topic and anyway, I've already put direct links to the original slides on the lecture pages for all the last 4 lectures. Hence forth new material will include a direct download link and some when I'll find the time to add links for the older ones Peace, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: Links and some info about IPv6 in Linux lecture in Herzelinux yesterday (6.11.08)
Hi, Oron Peled wrote: Some rant + possible way out... On Friday, 7 בNovember 2008, Rami Rosen wrote: 2) Slides for today IPv6 lecture are available in tuxology web site are here: http://tuxology.net/lectures/ipv6-in-the-linux-kernel/ Thanks, but since tuxology choose to store the slides in scribd, i encountered some... hurdles: 1. All content handling is based on flash. Many of my hosts don't have flash installed. Even simple wget is banned that way. You're a big overreacting. Yes, there's a flash applet that shows the slides inline in the page, but underneath each such applet there's a link to download the content. 2. After searching the page, I found a direct link (albeit with a horribly encoded url), only to be redirected to a login screen. Should our community content be held hostage behind some company login requirements? 3. The last too items also mean we cannot practically link directly to these presentations. As a result their chance to be indexed and found by search engines are nil (yes, I know scribd front pages with the document titles are indexed -- so what? what about the full text?) This unnecessarily lowers the long term value of this content. I don't really see the real issue here but since you seem to be bothered by this I'm going to add a direct link to the original slides. This will take time tough... Can't we afford hosting our own community presentations? No, hosting space is not the issue. Making efficient use of my time is - Scribd is convenient being that it automatically creates a version in various formats (PDF/ODP/DOC etc.) and a nice preview image (although flash based). I was aiming to reach a larger audience then the usual suspects with the new site and club (and judging from the participants of the last meeting it is working) - one that wont have OO installed despite most slides being written with the tool. I didn't want to spend time converting to different formats so I choose Scribd. As I said I will add a direct link to original slides when I have time. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: Links and some info about IPv6 in Linux lecture in Herzelinux yesterday (6.11.08)
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: 1. All content handling is based on flash. Many of my hosts don't have flash installed. Even simple wget is banned that way. You're a big overreacting. Yes, there's a flash applet that shows the slides inline in the page, but underneath each such applet there's a link to download the content. Blah! s/big/bit/ Sorry about the typo... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Job Offer] Linux C/C++ programmer
Hi there, Codefidence is looking for a great C/C++ Linux programmer to join an existing customer team as Codefidence liaison and resident Linux guru. Excellent knowledge of C and/or C++, mastery of Linux and excellent social and communication skills are required. Kernel programming or embedded background are NOT required (but would be an advantage). In other words - this is NOT a job for someone right out of college or that has hard time expressing himself in person to other people but you don't need to be a assembly eating, python wielding, compiler grokking guru to apply. Work will mostly be on the customer site in Raanana with some trips to Codefidence office in Ness Ziona industrial park (but you can take a train to get here, if you prefer). Any questions? want to apply? contact me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'll try to answer anyone, but experience shows It usually takes me some time to get back to everyone after the flood that follows such email, so please excuse me in advance - it's nothing personal. Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: cellular modems
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: SSH works jut fine of course (and so openvpn). You tunnel openvpn over ssh? I'm not familiar with that method. No, I don't. I said that ssh works fine and so does openvpn, not related to each other Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] Rami Rosen on IPv6 in Linux
Hi all, This is a reminder that on Thursday, 6 Nov at 18:30 Herzelinux will host Rami Rosen lecture on IPv6 in the Linux kernel. This lecture will mostly deal with IPV6 implementation in the linux kernel. We will also discuss some IPV6 user space tools, and also draw a comparison between IPV6 and IPV4. Among the topics we will deal with are: * IPV6 * General background and history * ICMPV6 * Router Advertisements and Router Solicitations o Radvd daemon * Autoconfiguration o DHCPV6 o MLDv1 and MLDv2 o IPV6 header * SOKCET API Note: If time permits, we will also talk shortly about Network Namespaces and Bridging Subsystem. Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college - there's on a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: cellular modems
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Someone alluded to there being a problem with using a cellular modem for SIP. If anyone has experience with the following I would appreciate information. .. For either of them, can you use SIP? SKYPE? SSH? If so is there anything special that has to be done to use them? What speed can someone expect? Cellcom at least uses non symmetric NAT for the IP address they give you when you use their service, with the result being that not tunneled SIP will be impossible. Skype should work as well as IAX2, but I haven't tried either of them. SSH works jut fine of course (and so openvpn). And of course, which cellular modems are supported by Linux and at what speeds? I use the Sierra AirCard 850. It works beautifully with Linux. The speed is limited by Cellcom, not the modem. Gilad Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: ISPs
Hi, sara fink wrote: 3. How much is not cheap about Orange/Cellcom? Do they provide pre-paid data plans? So far I couldn't find such an offer through Orange's or Cellcom's web sites (at least they manage to display something on Debian/Firefox). Orange/cellcom is crap. You share the speed with others. Don't know about prices, you will have to call them. But I read a technical article about it ~1 month ago. I think it was in globes or the marker about the technology. Actually, I'm a very happy Cellcom users. Enough so that in the first time since the previous century I actually disconnected the Internet connection to my home, since the cellular one works so nicely and is cheap, in my eyes. And they don't really block VoIP -, it just that you can a none symmetric NAT address which makes it difficult to use most VoIP services. Maybe it's done for tech. reason or maybe for business reasons. I don't know. I don't know of a fixed cost deal, but the deal I'm on includes a lump sum payment for a big enough bandwidth quota that I don't go over. It's not my main Internet link (that would be the office), but for a secondary/mobile link it's great And no, I don't own any Cellcom stocks any more... :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] Shachar Sharon lecture the Strinx library.
Hi all, This is a reminder that on Thursday, 23 October, at 18:30 Hezelinux will host Shachar Sharon lecture on his FOSS project - the Strinx library. The Strinx library is a lightweight extension to the standard C++ template library. It provides a set of highly efficient containers and strings, with similar interface to the those of the standard STL containers, but with different underlying memory management model, which improves performance and reduces memory fragmentations. The Strinx library is an header-only library: all it source code is located in header files, ready for use out of the box. See: http://strinx.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college - there's on a map on the site), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux To get updates of club meeting by RSS: http://tinyurl.com/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
[Herzelinux] : Adjusting eclipse-CDT for your needs by Elazar Leibovich
Hi all, This is a reminder that tomorrow, Thursday, 25/8 at 18:30, Hezelinux will host Elazar Leibovich lecture entitled: Adjusting eclipse-CDT for your needs The lecture will discuss: * a very brief overview eclipse CDT main architecture features * und[erd]ocumented eclipse features - sharing configuration via CVS, using non-standard compilers, etc. * brief overview of eclipse scripting solutions * an example patch to CDT - folding of compound statements See: http://www.eclipse.org http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eclipse.orgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFqB87hXK7hVI00a-FXGICVblw-0A Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a new Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me!
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about Small victories, but more work to be done: Today I got a letter from YNET that they are moving their videos to Flash from WMV to support Firefox and Linux users. Hi, I'm a bit curious - why do you consider changing from WMV to Flash important for Linux or Firefox users? Last time I checked, most Linux distributions could play neither WMV nor Flash movies out of the box, but software to do both is available for free. Software to play WMV is even available as free software (e.g., mplayer)? Or am I missing something? True, but... 1. Adobe has released a full spec for their flash format allowing a complete Free implementation. They also released the scripting engine as open source. 2. Adobe provides a proprietary flash player for Linux. 3. WMV (really the associated codecs, but the affect is the same ) is covered by numerous patents which are activly protected in the most brutal way, whereas the FLV format, as so much that it is patented (I don't know it is but I assume it is) is not, at the moment. Not a case of black and white by a long shot, but I would say flash is brighter then WMV. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: Memory manipulator
Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, I have been using Cheat Engine (http://www.cheatengine.org/) to manipulate the memory of applications on Windows for quite some time - mainly useful for testing software for quirks and bugs. I was wondering whether someone knew of a equivalent program for Linux? I am mainly looking for memory value discovery and value changing abilities. At least in theory this should work. I say in theory, because I've been getting an error on my Ubuntu trying to open /proc/$PID/mem by YMMV: $ cat /proc/$PID/mem | hexdump -c before $ cat /proc/$PID/mem | hexdump -c after $ diff before after Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: Memory manipulator
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: At least in theory this should work. I say in theory, because I've been getting an error on my Ubuntu trying to open /proc/$PID/mem by YMMV: $ cat /proc/$PID/mem | hexdump -c before $ cat /proc/$PID/mem | hexdump -c after You can only use /proc/PID/mem if you are already attached to that process as a debugger. How interesting. Where is that documented? neither the proc man page or the relevant kernel documentation file does not mention this. I'm going to send a patch... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: [Hebrew] Re: הסרתך מרשימת תפ וצה
Einat Kolodni wrote: היי גלעד, בהמשך לשיחתנו בנושא זה ובהמשך לעובדה כי _*אתה הגבת בפורום ציבורי* בעניין זה והתייחסת לחברתינו *ואליי באופן איש*י _באומרך כי פנייה אליי לדעתך הינה בזבוז זמן כפי שניתן לראות להלן, להזכירך, הגבתי לפנייה של עומר שהתלונן ששלחתם לו מה שמכונה דואר זבל. עומר שאל מי מכיר את החברה ואני השבתי בשם של המנהלת שלה. כפי שאמרתי לך בטלפון אתמול, בהתיחסות לבזבוז זמנו התיחסתי לנסיון לפתור את בעיית דואר הזבל על ידי פניה אישית, בין השאר לאור ההיסטוריה של הפעילות של עומר בנושא. אני מבין שהתגובה שלי יכולה להתפס כהתייחסות אישית גורפת מעבר לנושא המדובר, וזאת לא היתה הכוונה. אני מתנצל עם פגעתי בך או בחברה. אני באמת חושב שמיצינו את הנושא הזה. שיהיה לך יום טוב. גלעד -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
[Job offer] MySQL instructor for Hi Tech College
Hi, Hi tech college are looking for an instructor for a MySQL course. If you know MySQL installation, administration and optimization inside out, have training experience and interested let me know. Thanks, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: Linux related spam?! [Fwd: ��� לינו קס]
Omer Zak wrote: Does anyone know anything about the following spammer? According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by: descr:yaron berenholtz adv descr:12 menahem begin st' descr:ramat gan descr:52521 descr:Israel phone:+972 3 6122111 fax-no: +972 3 6122119 e-mail: yaron.be AT gmail.com And the domain has been registered at 2008 Jan 15. Yes, sigh... It's a long and sad story. The company certainly have known better days with regards to netiquette, at least. AFAIK, Penguin IT is currently operated by Einat Koldoni. If you must I can send you her phone number in private, although I think you'll be wasting your time. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: Linux related spam?! [Fwd: בואו ל היות מומחי לינוקס]
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: Does anyone know anything about the following spammer? According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by: descr:yaron berenholtz adv descr:12 menahem begin st' descr:ramat gan descr:52521 descr:Israel phone:+972 3 6122111 fax-no: +972 3 6122119 e-mail: yaron.be AT gmail.com And the domain has been registered at 2008 Jan 15. --- Omer penguin-it used to be Doron Ofek's company. After a chain of events I have to admit I have not gotten to the bottom of, this seems to no longer be the case. I'm not Doron spokesperson (although his two brothers are married to two sisters of my wife's brother wife. No, I'm not making this up) but I can attest that Doron is no way affiliated with this company these days. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: [Hebrew] Re: הסרתך מרשימת תפ וצה
Omer Zak wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 16:23 +0300, pablo wrote: עומר שלום, בהמשך לתגובתו של גלעד בן יוסף בעניין זה,איני יכול אלא שלא לקבלה שכן מכללת היי טק מפיצה ספאם על בסיס יום יומי ומפרסמת קורסים שגלעד בעצמו מלמד ומרוויח מהם באופן אישי. Well, I'm not sure Omer did wisely when he published in a public mailing list this private response, but since it mentions me I'll respond as I did to Omar in private email previously: AFAIK Hi Tech policy is that they will only contact you if you ever contacted them, gave your email in an exhibition booth to receive details and such. I'll admit, I don't like it very much, but I can't argue that if someone was interested in a course in the past or taken one it makes sense to let him know about additional courses. I know of at least one instance when they screwed up, but I also know that it was just that - a screw up (a shabby outside contractor which they don't work with anymore). So I'll tell you what, if anyone here is getting emails from the college and he or she never contacted Hi tech before, just forward the emails to me and I'll go chew their heads. They will listen to me, I promise. Ah and Pablo, next time you have something to say to me, do it to my face, not my back, OK? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: [Herzelinux] Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem (Rami Rosen)
Shlomi Fish wrote: I see. However, I can't tell how to receive an RSS feed for the events. This feed - http://tuxology.net/feed/ - does not contain any announcements of events. And the Google Calendar does not seem to provide any RSS feeds. I have my own Calendar at home, so I don't need one at Google. Google calender provides an RSS feeds for all it's (public) calenders. The Herzelinux one URL is: http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/codefidence.com_k8unogvn1ojlgfneubbv1vmp00%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
[off topic] LUA expert
Hey, Anyone here knows a Lua expert that can do a training session about it? Thanks! Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
[Herzelinux] Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem (Rami Rosen)
Hi all, On Thursday, 7/8, Hezelinux will hold it's second meeting. Topic: Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem Lecturer: Rami Rosen Where: Hi Tech College, Maskit 27, Herzelia Pituch. Time: Thursday, 7/8, 18:30. Note: this is a re-run of the lecture of the same name that ran In Haifux. Herzel-what? Herzelinux is a new Linux Linux user group. It's aim is to try to bridge the gap between professional Linux programmers working for Hi tech companies and the Linux Open Source community and bring them into the fold. As such: - The meeting topics will tend towards the advance technical stuff which is of interest to professional programmers. - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Other then that it's just yet anther LUG, like Haifux and Telux, whose format we're basically mimicking (read: most sincere form of flattery and so on...) Needless to say, it's free, both in speech and in coffee (not very good coffee but it's provided for free by Hi tech College so we shouldn't complain) and you are all invited. In fact, I'd truly appreciate if you can spread the word and invite fellow programmers working on Linux which are not alpha Linux geeks. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 See you there, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Herzelinux] Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem (Rami Rosen)
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Thursday, 7/8, Hezelinux will hold it's second meeting. Topic: Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem Lecturer: Rami Rosen Where: Hi Tech College, Maskit 27, Herzelia Pituch. Time: Thursday, 7/8, 18:30. One should note that this meeting co-incides with the PHP-Israel meeting: http://xrl.us/omvcn I learned about both meetings today, and now I'm contemplating which meeting to go to. Can you please next time make sure these meeting don't fall on one another? Well, this is most unfortunate indeed, but I just learned of the PHP meeting myself. I usually check that there are no conflicts with Haifux and Telux. I'll now added the PHP club to the list. Any other clubs I should check? - The meeting takes place in Herzelia Pituch (Maskit 27, In hi-tech college), a short walking distance from most of Silicon Wadi companies, to the pleasure of the lazy Hi Tech bums :-) Well, the problem with that is that I still recall the trouble it took me to go to Herzelia Pitu'akh from my home in Ramat Aviv Gimel on a Thursday. Most buses and service cabs didn't stop at my station, there was a huge traffic jam, and the bus that I could finally ride was fully packed. Well, amazingly enough, the world does not revolve around you, Shlomi :-) I think I'll go to the PHP meeting tomorrow instead to save this inconvenience. Perhaps you'd like to choose a different day than Thursday, or relocate? No, I don't think I will. Next time, please give us some time to announce it. This is for tomorrow, so I don't have a lot of time to publicise it. This was just a reminder. The event was published over a week ago on the club site and facebook group. For more details: http://tuxology.net/herzelinux For facebook lovers - join our group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Herzliya-Israel/Herzelinux/10832254949 You can publish events using Facebook too. It was. Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
Re: [Herzelinux] Linux Kernel Networking - the Routing Subsystem (Rami Rosen)
Marc A. Volovic wrote: Shlomi, Hi... I read your email and was, willy-nilly, forced out of my hermitude :-). All hail the SCSI cable yielding Linux-il Official Flamer and Cabal Non Leader... it's good to have you back. We've missed you :-) [ If you don't understand this message, it's means you're not old enough, or at least not been registered to this mailing list for long enough ] Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
