Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-27 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Monday 27 October 2003 08:32, Tal, Shachar wrote: Thanks. Though, his particular implementation is patented, hence his reluctance to release it under the GPL. I'm sorry - but this is utter bullshit. First, a particular implementation cannot be patented. It might be considered practicing

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-27 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 26 October 2003 22:23, Eran Tromer wrote: I must insist, however, that the definition of derivative work, though indeed external to the GPL, is far from trivial in our case. Moreover, the GPL further muddies the water in its Section 2 paragraph 5 (not paragraph 4 as I said earlier;

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-27 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your client has a patent on something which the program implements he can release the source code under the GPL without a worry because a patent license is still required to practice the patent - run the program even without any consideration

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-27 Thread Omer Zak
def DISCLAIMER(): for i in range(0,100): IANAL DISCLAIMER() Software patents are against the ideology of FSF. FSF never intended the GPL to coexist with software patents. The client in question has two alternatives: 1. License the patent without fee to all distributors and users of GPLed

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-27 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Monday 27 October 2003 10:31, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your client has a patent on something which the program implements he can release the source code under the GPL without a worry because a patent license is still required to practice the

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Eran Tromer
Ahoy, On 2003/10/26 21:33, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 20:15, Eran Tromer wrote: The distiction is anything but simple. [snip] My answer was given in the form of two separate paragraphs and such a choice of lexical structure usually denotes two separate subjects are

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 23:38, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The GPL, by design, is not a contract. As such, you must bring yourself under its influence by wishing to distribute copyrighted work for which the GPL was declared as a license. I'm not

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:15:56PM +0200, Eran Tromer wrote: As for the distinction you propose: what's the essential difference between use via loadable libraries and and use via pipe commands? In one case, you're using the application as it was planned to be used by a user. In the other

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Eran Tromer wrote: Ahoy, On 2003/10/26 21:33, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 20:15, Eran Tromer wrote: The distiction is anything but simple. [snip] My answer was given in the form of two separate paragraphs and such a choice of lexical structure usually denotes two

GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Tal, Shachar
Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server, where the communication protocols between clients and servers are non-standard (i.e. not HTTP or likes of it). The customer wishes to include somewhat

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 26 October 2003 23:38, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The GPL, by design, is not a contract. As such, you must bring yourself under its influence by wishing to distribute copyrighted work for which the GPL was declared as a license. I'm not lawyer and I might be dead wrong here, but for

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Eran Tromer
On 2003/10/26 19:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: The distinction is very simple - whatever code that is a derived work from the GPLed parts (and assuming they are *GPLed* and not, LGPLed, for example) can only be distributed under the GPL license by him. In practice what this usually boils down to

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 26 October 2003 16:26, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server, where the communication protocols between clients and servers are non-standard (i.e. not HTTP

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 26 October 2003 22:23, Eran Tromer wrote: My first sentance (The distiction is anything but simple.) refers to your first paragraph. The rest of my reply refers to your second paragraph. Indeed, I neglected to employ appropriate lexical constructs and quoting conventions, leading to

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 26 October 2003 20:15, Eran Tromer wrote: On 2003/10/26 19:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: The distinction is very simple - whatever code that is a derived work from the GPLed parts (and assuming they are *GPLed* and not, LGPLed, for example) can only be distributed under the GPL

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server, where the communication protocols between clients and servers are non-standard (i.e. not HTTP or likes

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Diego Iastrubni
, 26 2003, 16:26,Tal, Shachar: not HTTP or likes of it). The customer wishes to include somewhat-modified GPLed software components in its client software (e.g. python, GTK or LAM/MPICH), while keeping his server implementation, protocol implementation gtk is LGPL you are safe. --

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server, where the communication protocols between clients and servers are non-standard (i.e. not HTTP or likes

Re: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 26 October 2003 19:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 16:26, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server, where the communication protocols

RE: GPL Licensing Question

2003-10-26 Thread Tal, Shachar
]' Subject: Re: GPL Licensing Question On Sunday 26 October 2003 19:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 16:26, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, I have a GPL licensing question that came from a customer of mine: That customer is currently developing a distributed client-server