Re: History of GNU uname's -o option, and GNU/Linux

2004-07-07 Thread Douglas Royds
Hear, hear. Thank you Carl. You can't fight the adoption of a name (dare I say brand) by the public at large. Once it's embedded in the collective conscious, it's there to stay. Witness Aspirin. Did you know that the name Alison was once a boy's name (son-of-Al)? To most of the world it's just

free, free, free, and FREE! (was Re: History of GNU uname's -o option, and GNU/Linux)

2004-07-07 Thread Carl Cerecke
Douglas Royds wrote: BTW, which 3rd meaning of free did you mean? Free to move? Free of rants? Uninhibited? Available for the next punter? It was an allusion to the Buy 1 and get another one FREE! type of statement. This meaning of free is not free-as-in-freedom, and not really free-as-in-cost

Re: CGI script

2004-07-07 Thread steve
C. Falconer wrote: I looked at the cgi script, and thought this is bollocks All that information is a quick command away, and you've probably got an xterm running on any important machine in the network anyway. Ah, but that's the difference. BB tells you something's gone wrong, not the other

Re: GNU-less linux distributions

2004-07-07 Thread Yuri de Groot
InfoHelp wrote: I read the thread - it proves my point. Unchanged uname means an fsck-lot more than your anti-RMS vendetta. Get a life. Please. Down boy! This isn't a vendetta. It's just a lot of folks weary of silliness. No-one starts out as being anti-RMS. The man brings it out in

Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Ian Laurenson
I have just set-up a computer running Mandrake10 Official and would like to be able to print to Novell print queues, but haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I have mounted volumes ok and can print using nprint -q but how do I set up cups (or alternative) to print to the Novell print

[OT] Pentium III seeking new owner

2004-07-07 Thread Ed
Hi, I am selling my Pentium III if anyone here is interested. Specs: Pentium III - 733MHz 128MB RAM 15GB HDD 52x CDROM Intel 82815 chipset graphics Intel i810 chipset sound Ethernet card USB 15 Monitor with keyboard and mouse I'm thinking around $320 for it but i can be flexible. If you're

Re: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 22:25, Ian Laurenson wrote: I have just set-up a computer running Mandrake10 Official and would like to be able to print to Novell print queues, but haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I have mounted volumes ok and can print using nprint -q but how do I set up

Re: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Ian Laurenson
On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 23:00, Nick Rout wrote: I suspect that you need a package called ncpfs and that the program therein called nprint is the key to this. As I do not have a novell print queue handy I cannot test. Thanks Nick - I have ncpfs installed and can run nprint to print a file. What

[OT] Radio NZ item on copyright, 10am today

2004-07-07 Thread Timothy Musson
Hi, On Radio NZ this morning (2004-07-08), just after 10 AM, there'll be a short item about the upcoming changes to copyright law in NZ. (It's somewhere around 101 on the FM tuner.) Tim -- Timothy Musson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~trmusson/

Re: [OT] Radio NZ item on copyright, 10am today

2004-07-07 Thread Carl Cerecke
Timothy Musson wrote: Hi, On Radio NZ this morning (2004-07-08), just after 10 AM, there'll be a short item about the upcoming changes to copyright law in NZ. Would somebody like to post a summary for those of us without radios? Thanks.

RE: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I think this could be what you need. http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~ppollet/netware/lin2nds/docs/trucsastuces.ssi Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Ian Laurenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 9:13 a.m. To: clug Subject:Re: Printing to

RE: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Ian Laurenson
I will try it when I get to Lincoln Uni later today. Thanks, Ian On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 09:37, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I think this could be what you need. http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~ppollet/netware/lin2nds/docs/trucsastuces.ssi Regards, Robert -Original Message-

Re: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
I don't think that Robert's suggestion should be necessary on mandrake. You will see that a netware cups backend is already in the mandrake 10 rpm. The file is /usr/lib/cups/backend/nprint. Its a bash script. It seems from my investigations that: (a) the netware backend is not part of the

Re: Documentation licenses Re: GNU-less linux distributions

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Cheetham
et [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas Royds wrote: Jim Cheetham wrote: I'm not especially happy about that, though, as I didn't to see an aggregate editing/blog style of wiki, but a

RE: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
(Pushing the SuSE barrow again) In SuSE YaST Printer simply select Print via IPX Network Server then enter the relevant details. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Ian Laurenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 10:09 a.m. To: clug Subject:

Re: [OT] Radio NZ item on copyright, 10am today

2004-07-07 Thread InfoHelp
Carl Cerecke wrote: Timothy Musson wrote: Hi, On Radio NZ this morning (2004-07-08), just after 10 AM, there'll be a short item about the upcoming changes to copyright law in NZ. Would somebody like to post a summary for those of us without radios? Thanks. Of late I have been tuning out the

Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
Posting this to the both lists in an effort to catch the right people. There are at least two registrations for Mac's at the installfest. This brings to mind two things: 1. Who has experience with installing on a mac? Your experience would be valued. 2. What distro? Yellowdog, Mandrake, Debian

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
2. What distro? Yellowdog, Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo are known to have ppc versions. It seems that YD is somewhat maintained, at least for embedded ppc systems (great for routers). De facto you might (will?) end up having to compile Debian yourself. Dunno about Mdk, SuSE has by the looks of

Re: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Juan Escanellas
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:25:57 +1200 Ian Laurenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just set-up a computer running Mandrake10 Official and would like to be able to print to Novell print queues, but haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I have mounted volumes ok and can print using

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Cheetham
Nick Rout wrote: 1. Who has experience with installing on a mac? Your experience would be valued. I've installed OSX multiple times onto a real Mac, and both Darwin and OSX into a pearpc emulator. But that's all ... 2. What distro? Yellowdog, Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo are known to have ppc

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: 2. What distro? Yellowdog, Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo are known to have ppc versions. It seems that YD is somewhat maintained, at least for embedded ppc systems (great for routers). De facto you might (will?) end up having to compile Debian

Re: [OT] Radio NZ item on copyright, 10am today

2004-07-07 Thread Timothy Musson
Carl Cerecke, 2004-07-08 09:25:27: Timothy Musson wrote: On Radio NZ this morning (2004-07-08), just after 10 AM, there'll be a short item about the upcoming changes to copyright law in NZ. Would somebody like to post a summary for those of us without radios? Linda Clark hosted a short

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Zane Gilmore
Nick Rout wrote: Posting this to the both lists in an effort to catch the right people. There are at least two registrations for Mac's at the installfest. This brings to mind two things: 1. Who has experience with installing on a mac? Your experience would be valued. I just spoken to one of the

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread G. M. Bodnar
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 01:32:22PM NZST, Jim Cheetham wrote: Well, I guess it depends on the hardware spec. I don't know how boot is managed on older Macs, and I really don't know why someone who has never installed OSX on a newer machine would want to put a Linux on - i.e. they should

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Zane Gilmore
Philip Charles wrote: I could get the first three Debian Testing (Sarge) CDs for you. How easy is the install for this? Also how long to install? -- Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept, University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Turner
G. M. Bodnar wrote: disclaimer: this information may be outdated. Older can be tricky. The 601 based PowerMac (6100, 7100, 8100 Series) aren't supported by the linuxppc distributions. Instead, you're stuck with MkLinux, which was the linux kernel run on top of the Mach microkernel. (It was, in

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
sorry both models so far seem reasonably up to date, i should hae said that.: one is running macos x 10.3 t'other is a 1.5GHz machine with 1G Ram On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:26:49 +1200 Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G. M. Bodnar wrote: disclaimer: this information may be outdated.

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread G. M. Bodnar
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 02:26:49PM NZST, Andrew Turner wrote: G. M. Bodnar wrote: disclaimer: this information may be outdated. Older can be tricky. The 601 based PowerMac (6100, 7100, 8100 Series) aren't supported by the linuxppc distributions. Instead, you're stuck with MkLinux, which

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Zane Gilmore wrote: Philip Charles wrote: I could get the first three Debian Testing (Sarge) CDs for you. How easy is the install for this? If it is like i386 it should be quite easy. Also how long to install? 1 -2 hours. Warning, I have no experience with powerpc.

RE: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread hillview
I don't know whether this is the best approach but I did get it to work thanks to Robert's URL. http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~ppollet/netware/lin2nds/docs/trucsastuces.ssi I found I had some other things wrong along the way like not having .nwclient with mod 0600 - it simply ignored the file.

RE: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Thanks for the feedback Ian. As printing is our business (Xerox) I was very interested in your question and wether my answer worked or not. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL

Re: Printing to Novell queues?

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
was there something wrong with the mandrake supplied script? if so i am sure mandrake would like to know. On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:00:55 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether this is the best approach but I did get it to work thanks to Robert's URL.

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
Could you please specifically ask him asap what the story is with non-destructive repartitioning. I suspect dual booting will be requested (well one has mentioned it specifically in fact) I have seen one comment that the mac os X cd will non destructively shift and shrink a partition. We need to

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Zane Gilmore
Nick Rout wrote: sorry both models so far seem reasonably up to date, i should hae said that.: one is running macos x 10.3 t'other is a 1.5GHz machine with 1G Ram I think we should probably speak to them before we start and ensure they know what they're getting themselves into. We need to find

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
yes i intend to do that, and will do that, i need to be able to speak to them about backing up and partitioning, hence my most recent post ;-) On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:06:24 +1200 Zane Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: sorry both models so far seem reasonably up to date, i

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Zane Gilmore
Just replying to myself :-/ because I have a reply back from the AppleMac guy. he said: Zane, No sure about the partitioning issue but I will look into it. I recommend Yellow dog linux as this distribution is officially endorsed by Apple. Terra Soft Solutions are the only company that Apple

[OT] Pentium I Laptop for sale

2004-07-07 Thread Ed
Hi, I have a Pentium laptop here that i am selling Specs: Pentium I 16MB ram around 750MB hdd 28.8k Modem CDROM External Floppy I haven't tested it with linux and it's currently running Win95 and has random software ie: IE5, ACDsee, and a bit of other stuff. I'm selling it for $200 ono. I have

Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc

2004-07-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:12, Nick Rout wrote: Posting this to the both lists in an effort to catch the right people. I have read / skimmed the whole thread. Sorry I have been out this afternoon. There are at least two registrations for Mac's at the installfest. One of them - the ibook - got