Owning to un-precedential problem, I must un-subscribe from this
newsgroup. See you guys later. I will read the general newsgroup from
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I recommend dismantling NASA until they can find a replacement for a guy
like Wayne Ratiff... Not me, of course... :)
Michael Scottaline wrote:
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Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:
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look at the faces of those scientists in NASA. That's what I called real
experts. they knew a problem that couldn't be fixed and they didn't lie
about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool...
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tell ya.. the shuttle was shot down by this thing:
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN914203
it's all in one episode of the anime. :P
dep wrote:
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| Sounds like typical government efficiency and coverups.
pretty much, yeah.
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I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these days are so
loosed (compared to the ones I used back 15 years ago)?
Is making a circle at the right diameter so difficult?? dam
The same problem can happen to 10BaseT if those plug manufacturers are
not careful about the product
yes, plastic is cheap to replace and easy to find and synthesis, but do
you want a US$0.01 plug to mis-informated your whole battlion when a
netowrk failure happens in the course of a fierce battle? silly
m.w.chang wrote:
I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these days are so
computer, both hardware and software, is a life-and-death business.
couldn't these guys in the world be a little bit serious?
m.w.chang wrote:
I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these days are so
loosed (compared to the ones I used back 15 years ago)?
Is making a circle
anyone ever saw a mysql client that works almost like dbase or foxpro?
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I came across a webpage that showed a message about that option. It just
flashed across my eyes. I lost the link now.. forget it then.
Jim Bonnet wrote:
m.w.chang wrote:
what does it do? remote admin or just for downloading?
Im running rpm 3.0.6 and I sure don't have rpm --port.. I do have
what does it do? remote admin or just for downloading?
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We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux.
how could you start building a system using instructions on
linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux distribution?
kind of like what Mr. Trovald got when he wrote linux-0.1. can one walk
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http://gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/status.html
The most recent version of this library that will build with GCC 2.95.2
is the ninth snapshot release, libstdc++-2.90.8.tar.gz.
ok, I am and was not familiar with gcc stuffs... sorry.
m.w.chang wrote:
seems
ok. gcc 3.2.1 built following gcc_notes.
proftpd-1.2.8cvs built ok (now using it).
now going back to htdig-3.1.6 (which complained loudly about ostream...)
m.w.chang wrote:
seems that libstdc++-2.92 was NOT meant for gcc-2.95.3.
even caldera used libstdc++-2.10 only. what should be the most
yes, WITH ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE. it's a typo.. I didn't double-check.
why were you installing Caldera WITHOUT ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE? Don't you
mean with absolute confidence? I'm not clear on your meaning of
I didn't need to backup my data partition to install COL 3.1
I have no courage to do that
no. it's just a P3 on a Abit TUSLC-2 and CUBX with 384M RAM.
I'm sorry to butt in, but I've never had a REDHAT installations
heave like your mentioning here. Sounds like your installing on
the latest and greatest Pentium 4, with the ia-32bit verision, or
the CDROM your using is a dud.
No. I
I don't know what redhat was doing at all, but compared my virgin
experienemnt with redhat ahd col, redhat is a mess. for any newbies,
backup is a must.
the distribution. I understand you're speaking of your confidence level,
not of the actual, realistic differences of the install process,
on the other hand, I am expecting a proven COL 3.1.1 workstaiton cdrom
from the mailbox.
I had one working copy, but its surface was scratched badly. All recent
attempts to pull the same disk image off ftp.iso.caldera.com failed to
produce a working cdrom.
Maybe you should try downloading the
I only heard that 32bit OS could not handles date arithematics after
2038... :)
And as I understand it, going from 32 bits to 64 bits
creates problems, and a OS developer has to start
from the ground all over again?
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still failed. I installed from tarball perl-5.8.0.
** the compile script ***
if [ $MODPERL -eq 1 ] ; then
cd /usr/src/mod_perl*
perl Makefile.PL \
EVERYTHING=1 \
APACHE_SRC=../apache_$APC/src \
USE_APACI=1 \
PREP_HTTPD=1 \
DO_HTTPD=1
make
checkinstall
fi
./configure \
sorry... sorry... the slash
make clean
make clean
retrying...
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still got the error. any help would be appreciated.
m.w.chang wrote:
sorry... sorry... the slash
make clean
make clean
retrying...
--with-perl=\usr\bin\perl
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I restart the whole procedure from scratch. now things worked.
there is no need to use the --with-perl option.
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why why?
why did she insist on using libstdc++???
[Mon Jan 27 17:26:34 2003] [notice] Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27
mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.7 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Mon Jan 27 17:26:34 2003] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem)
htsearch: error while
of course not.
Net Llama! wrote:
You verified the MD5SUM in windoze?
but... execuse me, did they generate the md5sum from
a. the authentic cdrom or
b. the file on the server (which may have been corrupted)
? :)
when did you guys download the iso? My first download (done months ago)
install the linux boot loader onto the MBR.
have it to boot linux and a Fat32 partition,
when it boots to the FAT32 partitionk it would fire the WinNT loader
there and from there you boot your Windows2000.
BASIC QUESTION:
Well, you get the idea. The basic question is what is the best way to
thank you. that's my point.
I would love someone to mail me his/her working cdrom via surface mail.
I could afford a few USD.
The point is that all of this discussion, other than helping Chang with
his actual problem belongs on the General list. The CD burning software
available on Windows
You Honour, could we go back to the original topic?
we were talking about the integrity on the COL 3.1.1. iso, not whether I
used a window$ or linux to burn the image.
ISO is the data format. you can question the compilance of Nero Burning
ROM to the linux cdr-record, but you shouldn't shift
anyway, the apache compile how-to is really a bit out of date, one can
introduce some improvememnts to it from the notes of linuxfromscratch,
notably:
--enable-modules=all \
--enable-shared=max \
--with-server-gid=httpd \
--with-server-uid=httpd
m.w.chang wrote:
still failed. I installed from
possible...but he didn't manage the ftp server. he merely gave the orders.
I had to re-iterate the fact that I had never failed to boot a linux
iso burnt under Window$, your majesty. I meant all, except this COL
3.1.1.
Its probably Ransom Love's fault..
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ok, I got no money or the right political environment to hire you.
anyway, this part of the thread was no longer related to my query on the
integrity of the iso.
Cut out this your honor BS. My full time job has nothing to do with
knowing how to burn a CD. I was hired because i knew Linux,
do yuo think stored procedures are actually a security hazard for
database servers?
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so how does that sql server worm spread itself it not using the stored
programs at the server?
do yuo think stored procedures are actually a security hazard for
database servers?
you got to be kidding. stored procedures are api methods that sit on
the database server. NOT a remote or local
write you back later tonight (HKT).
Kurt Wall wrote:
Feigning erudition, m.w.chang wrote:
% thank you. that's my point.
%
% I would love someone to mail me his/her working cdrom via surface mail.
% I could afford a few USD.
Send me an address in private email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll
not my first time to ask this question. accordign to the doc in
libstdc++, what I needed to do is:
cd /usr/src
tar xzvf /path/to/gcc-2.95.3.tar.gz
cd /usr/src/gcc-2.95.3
tar xzvf /path/to/libdstdc++-2.92.tar.gz
# take out the old ilbstdc++ that's bundled with gcc-2.95.3
mv libdstdc++ ..
# load
btw, does gcc-3.2.1 have latest libdstdc++ bndled? from time to time,
some packages (like htdig) insisted on usnig it.
m.w.chang wrote:
not my first time to ask this question. accordign to the doc in
libstdc++, what I needed to do is:
sr/lib.
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on closer look, I noticed this error:
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... (cached)
/usr/src/gccbuild/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/gccbuild/gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -E
updating cache ./config.cache
ltconfig: unrecognized option `--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu'
Try `ltconfig --help' for more
was it another DOS attack on the root dns server?
There is quite delay when accessing American web-sites from Hong kong.
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I am learning to re-compile apache, and for milk's sake,
why would the installation script touched the /usr/include/ctype.h?
As a result, after I used checkinstall to make install, a subsequent
and rpm -e apache would delete /usr/include/ctype.h.
it's lucky that I used checkinstall, otherwise,
I downloaded the ISO image again. this time, I ran md5sum on it.
same as the website. I copied it to Windows 2000 and burnt it with
cdrwin 5. No error in the burning prodcess but it still didn't installed
(saying that COL cannot be installed on the machien. consult the .. brah...)
My very
.
Net Llama! wrote:
On 01/26/03 19:01, m.w.chang wrote:
I downloaded the ISO image again. this time, I ran md5sum on it.
same as the website. I copied it to Windows 2000
That was your first mistake.
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Kurt Wall wrote:
Feigning erudition, m.w.chang wrote:
%
% I am learning to re-compile apache, and for milk's sake,
% why would the installation script touched the /usr/include/ctype.h?
% As a result, after I used checkinstall to make install, a subsequent
% and rpm -e apache would
for this, I had to disagree, your honour. It's freaking easy to burn a
cdr under Window$, esp if yuo used Nero Burning Rom. It occured to me
naturally.
Once I figured out the hardware issues on linux, I would say it might be
as easy to do it with command=line cdr burnign tools under linux. my
it's a P3. so it should be fine. I had no idea why the COL 3.1.1 refused
to boot up, except a suspicious bad cd image The COL 3.1 worked fine
(ok, that one costed me US$ 59.95)
Are you sure that you have a compatible CPU? The Caldera server
installations require a Pentium II or better
I restored the ctype.h from the rpm via cpio. make install and then a
rpm -e, .. boom... ctype.h was gone again. :)
I agree. You can always do make -n foo to see what the installation
will do without actually doing it. -n is a synonym for --dry-run.
Kurt
yes, after I figured out the ide-scsi things.. later. I didn't say it
was impossible.
could someone burn it for me and mail me (in Hongkong) the cdrom over
snail mail?? :)
As for burning .iso's under linux it's as easy as :
cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 somedumb.iso
No big deal... If you
I paid $59.95 for COL 3.1 because of my respect for the original Caldera.
I paid 0 for my OS, how did you pay?
but yuo work full-time in linux and unix, I was working full-time in
Foxpro and DOS. hwo could you apply your belief over me, your honour?
I received no official UNIX or Linux
the point is whether it's a standard iso file or a linux-specific iso file.
Why burn in wintendo? what the heck is wrong with:
cdrecord -eject -v -data speed=XX dev=0,0 isoname.iso
where XX= whatever the speed (writing) of your burner is. Its faster,
cleaner and bug free. Why would you
=== [include: Installing Apache C header files]
cp ./src/include/*.h /usr/include/
cp ./src/lib/expat-lite/*.h /usr/include/xml/
cp ./src/os/unix/os.h /usr/include/
cp ./src/os/unix/os-inline.c /usr/include/
chmod 644 /usr/include/*.h /usr/include/xml/*.h
here is the offending section.
I
that's really puzzling I pulled the image with wget. it pulled with
binary mode, right?
Bill Campbell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:44:55PM +0800, m.w.chang wrote:
the point is whether it's a standard iso file or a linux-specific iso file.
Nothing Linux specific about it. I burn most
sorry. I failed to run the make clean last time. (don't know..)
maybe a slip of fingers.
--includedir=/usr/include/httpd \ --- no use at all
--localstatedir=/var/run \
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was a good one.
Bill Campbell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 02:16:12PM +0800, m.w.chang wrote:
that's really puzzling I pulled the image with wget. it pulled with
binary mode, right?
Probably. Did you pull the file with md5sums and check the ISOs
against
thank you.. next puzzle is mod_perl.
after applying the mod_perl patch, compiling apache failed to buld the
libperl.a
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is it going to difficult?
was it popular?
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How long is a rope?
??? deadline? no deadline. just for fun. I always want to investigate
the posibliity of replacing clipper 5 with perl+mysql+curse.
Are you a competent perl programmer?
no. I knew xBase (notably Clipper and Foxpro) from the bottom up.
Have you ever done any curses
was the combination popular among the developers back then?
now, we are all talking about java and php. curse? console-mode?
everyone will be laughing at you. :)
Net Llama! wrote:
On 01/23/03 18:51, m.w.chang wrote:
is it going to difficult?
was it popular?
can you be more vague
i don't understand.
why didn't VMware emulate a NE2000 but an oddward AMD type of ethernet
card. (the virtual LAN card after you fire up vmware).
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may be bombing (real explosives) is a faster solution. :)
An American crew of a giant water bombing copter is on record as saying
, they had never seen
worse conditions and a bigger firestorm.
The forcast for tonight and tomorrow is worse than it was on Saturday, we
are all fingers crossed.
same thing could happen to those fire fighters when the arial command
center crashed... :)
Renmber the movie Blackhawk Down? wonder whether they can use
helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, wind and
smoke...
Yea, that's the movie where 2 copters crashed, and many
what regex could exactly specify these patterns?
030118203923p
030119172924p
1mbtest.ptf
1kbtest.ptf
here is my attempt (/etc/proftpd.conf)
# Reject all files with leading periods or dashes
PathDenyFilter (^|/)[-.] | \.ptf$
# to stop those numbered p directories
PathDenyFilter
I guess it's time to mobilize those C130 for fire-fighting.
The devastation we are seeing is the worst in living memory. I must admit that
I am very gald to be in Queensland, but with the way the drought has provided
fuel for fires we are not are not immune as 75% of the state is tinder dry.
and on the bright side, there will less fire for the next few years. :)
are the 200 victims all fire fighters?
Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200
serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed, as is
the emergency services. Similar
they might have beeen too fast, but ran in the wrong direction.
even trained professionals might make a bad decions when trapped in the
center of a hill/bush fire.
remenmber the movie Blackhawk Down? wonder whether they can use
helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, wind
what's the point with /etc/inet.d as well? :)
I think only caldera openlinux used them
Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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I mean really.. I have /etc/cron.daily, cron.weekly, cron.monthly, and
cron.hourly. so what's with cron.d?
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ok, you still need the ping from inetd (netkit-base)
On 01/14/03 18:54, m.w.chang wrote:
what's the point with /etc/inet.d as well? :)
I think only caldera openlinux used them
That's a joke, right
why would they open ports 137-139? puzzling...
I logged many connection attempts to these 3 ports (and the SQL Server
ports as well) with my iptables.
studies and prevention. The bottom line is; they had netbios going over the
firewall...
Anyways, if you have the interest and your usenet has
you need a passord to use the private key... hmm...I thought you guys
were talking about hacking the password out of the private key.
that's dictionary hack, I believe, which may be easier.
Net Llama! wrote:
THe key length is irrelevant if you're sending your private key over the
wire.
let me try to publish the public key instead.
I forgot whether puttygen.exe could produce the private key from the
public key. I need to use the private key to connect to my linux's
openssh.
I could buy a cheap 64M USB storage to keep my own key. but it would be
nice to put it inside my mobile
my flaw. no way to generate private key out of the public key.
yes, I indeed didn't quite comprehend the maths involved in RSA.
still looking for an easy and safe way to access the private key safely
from my linux remotely... which sounds like a chicken-and-egg problem
with security.
m.w.chang
what options should I use to make MC to be able to handle these weird
directory names?
I could delete them with F8, but I wanted to peek. :P
error from MC ---
Warning: Couldn't change to /usr/ftp/ .ÿ1ÿ / . ÿ 2 ÿ .
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I knew that trick, too. but I want to do it via mc.
bsides, what if the directory has multiple diectories like that?
* could not guarantee the right choice.
cd /usr/ftp/*1*/*2*
what options should I use to make MC to be able to handle these weird
error from MC ---
Warning: Couldn't
I downloaded the iso directly from ftp.iso.caldera.com (without
registration on the webpage).
It seems that the installation process willl always access the network
(after knowing that the cdrom has the files)and it would abort the
installatio process for an unknown reason.
must I register my
glancing the installation guide:
1. must the internet be accessible when installing gentoo?
2. what are Portage Tree and GRP?
3. where does the `emerge` command get her source files? the cdrom?
4. can I use my own kernel source (say a direct download from
kernel.org plus xfs patch for 2.4.20)
I had no problem with the COL 3.1 cd I bought.
For the same machine, the 3.1.1. image (burnt with Nero) aborted after
finding the installation source. It's an Asus TUSL2-C motherboard.
Strange...
I have to suspect that something else is wrong. I've installed
quite a few 3.1.1 WS systems
problem solved.
m.w.chang wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml
am I reading the wrong one?
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Code listing 9.2: Getting ready for GRP
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/GRP
# mount -o bind /mnt/cdrom/gentoo/packages /mnt/gentoo/GRP
hmm... maybe I need to read something on the anotomy of the gentoo
distribution. I possibly missed a few pages in the user guide.
I do not know what GRP is. In what
chatting only? can you actually place words into the command line of the
remtoe host from your machine? it's like an interactive linux session.
Net Llama! wrote:
[y]talk
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I couldn't reach that stage. it died right after detection of
installation source. I did it make it through on the old i440BX
motherboard. hmm.
Rick Sivernell wrote:
Well, I have never gotten a good clean install on eW or eS 3.1.1. with
kde there is a either a bad library r it is missing,
a replacement frontend for linux-sxs?
how about a bulletin board system?
Net Llama! wrote:
Can anyone recommend knowledge base software? I'm looking for something
web based that stores articles of commonly found problems in categories
that are all indexed so that you can easily search
I hope it's just a BIOS seting problem, not some tricks on the part of
SCO. hmm... the 3.1.1. installed on the i440BX baord, but not this newer
i815ep board. really puzzling...
I've loaded a bunch of 3.1.1 WS systems, both from bought CDs, and from
ones I've burned from ISO images (usually
I am hitting the atexit() problem reported by Tim Wunder months ago
finally. :) however, I haven't patched the makefiles according to the
glibc notes.
Net Llama! wrote:
glibc is documented on the SxS, and is quite simple to build.
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while sshd is active, can one rpm -e openssh and use checkinstall?
stayler wrote:
Done it a couple times. Just cron a restart of sshd for a few minutes
later then kill sshd after the make install, plus editing of
sshd_config of course...
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my telnet is set to work on LAN only (not over the internet). just in
case but if I cuold use openssh only, I would rpm -e the telnet daemon.
the only hussles is the key. I have to figure out a way to let me access
my private key anywhere in the internet when I need it.
Net Llama! wrote:
yes. `rpm -q --whatrequires openssl` said so.
stayler wrote:
mod_ssl will need to be redone if memory serves
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someone boasted how he used a nokia phoen to remote login a linux
server. how about using the mobile phone's voice reconigtion capability?
Joel Hammer wrote:
I would like to have a linux computer be able to respond to simple voice
commands. For example, to words like menu, action or cancel and
vnc or tight vnc need the xfree86 right?
is there a console mode tool?
Wil McGilvery wrote:
I use tight VNC and it will do what you want. Tight VNC has several good options for
use over slow connections.
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it's the 1.4 rc2 686 LiveCD
just downloaded the gentoo 1.4rc2 LiveCD.
the installation guide didn't mention how to create a xfs root
partition. what should I do to use xfs?
btw, the step of using dd to clean the first 1k of partition could be
dangerous, isn't it? a wrong output device will
thanks
is it possible to place a link for db.html (compiling berneley db-4.x)
in section database? that makes sense, I believe. :)
sure. I'll do that.
if the procedure is proven, it'll help those that want DIY.
I finally reached the point where compiling a new package will produce
Tim's
what's the command? the english user guide give examples for all fs
except xfs.
Create a linux partition, and format for xfs.
take a look at the user guide yourself. :)
the step after creating the 3 minimum partitions.
No more dangerous than any other command you run as root. Why would you
that means i have to recompile all programs that depends on openssl?
doh... maybe I should stay with the symlink solution for a while...
Building static binaries should be avoided unless you have a really good
reason. They're an order of magnitude larger, and less efficient. I
wouldn't
how would openpkg help resolve the version dependency problems?
Bill Campbell wrote:
I'm looking very seriously at moving all of our customization and local
additions to work under the openpkg package manager. This allows one to
work without changing the vendor's stuff at all, and is supported
just learnt that. a power failure yesterday night forced me to reboot
the linux server, and sshd refused to run. had to recompile it.
so far, I had recompiled: proftpd, fetchmail, openssh, bind.
I think sendmail would have been affected if I used ssl login.
let me check apache...
Net Llama!
is it possible to place a link for db.html (compiling berneley db-4.x)
in section database? that makes sense, I believe. :)
right now, it's listed only as a part of sendmail_antispam.
also, the gcc_notes was not listed under any section... if I didn't miss it.
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2 more: wget and lynx
m.w.chang wrote:
just learnt that. a power failure yesterday night forced me to reboot
the linux server, and sshd refused to run. had to recompile it.
so far, I had recompiled: proftpd, fetchmail, openssh, bind.
I think sendmail would have been affected if I used ssl
how could one upgrade openssh if openssh is the only remote shell
available on a linux server? I always fell back to telnet when I needed
to update openssh.
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after updating my openssl to 0.9.7, many packges that were compiled by
myself was broken.
dig: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.6: cannot
load share d object file: No such file or directory
It seems that I used the wrong method to compile them, which made them
to be
i upgraded my openssl to 0.9.7 and suddenly, many packages complained
about missing libcrypto.so.0.9.6.
hwo could I compile those packages such that they would not refer to the
version of the libcrypto to be used?
--with-ssl=/usr/ssl
--openssldir=/usr/ssl
are these options the source of
you meant when builing those packages (like bind in my example),
I needed to use the --option to force static library build?
can I make bind to refer to libcrypto.so rather than libcrypto.so.x.y.z
where x.y.z is the version?
in the meantime, I am using symbol link.
dig: error while loading
Saw this question in hkpucg.linux.
how could you create a console session such that both the remote and
local users can see the same screen and keyboard? kind of like the
whiteboard in netmeeting.
The guy said you could do that easily with SCO Unix.
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that should have been joyful rather than joyous.
Same to you. May the force and farce be with you. :P
Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year.
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are you sure about this? it's in the source codes? I suppose any normal
kernel would suggest scream for help and halted if not gracefully
shutting down the system. I suppose you were joking. :)
All recent 2.4.x kernels consume physical memory before going to swap.
That said, completely
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