Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-09 Thread Squabsy
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:16:59 -0500, Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you could beg / borrow / steal :-) another sound card just for temporary testing would be a logical next step. Finally gave up on Knoppix when the hard drive installed version wouldn't record at all ! (It didn't

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-06 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm still a bit puzzled as to why you're looking at KNOPPIX as a replacement for SuSE. To me, that's like replacing your tennis racket with your golf clubs. They are just meant to do entirely different jobs. A more likely replacement for SuSE would

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-06 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: My reason for considering an insall of Knoppix is that I am able to record wavs fine in it. Understand. But Knoppix has no corner on that market. Any distro should be able to handle the job - including SuSE. If switching is indeed the solution, I'd go for something more targeted

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter
and look for essomething... Then search through /etc/modules.conf for the current module SuSE uses. - Original Message - From: Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: recording wavs (or aiffs) On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:05:47

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-02 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: I have only been on SUSE a couple of months and have a fairly basic set of applications so sitching to Knoppix would not be too painful Or I could parallel run although I'm running out of disk space. I'm still a bit puzzled as to why you're looking at KNOPPIX as a replacement

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-01 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write. Excuse me denseness but I tried last night to do this using various parameters with the mount command but failed miserably.

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-01 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:34:08 +0100 Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write. Excuse me denseness but I tried last night to

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-01 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:34:08 +0100 Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write.

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write. Excuse me denseness but I tried last night to do this using various parameters with the mount command but failed

Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-01 Thread Squabsy
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:05:47 -0500, Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the cd version of KNOPPIX I use, I just right click on the pretty icon on the desk and tell it to remount as r/w. Yes that worked and I managed to record a 30 min plus wav file in Knoppix BRILLIANT ! It

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-30 Thread Squabsy
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:35:46 -0500, Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I propose yet another test. Use knoppix and try recording again. I am not ready to retire my col or SuSE systems but I kinda like the way knoppix works. Ha yes that's what I tried (it was also one of the reasons

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-30 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:35:46 -0500, Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I propose yet another test. Use knoppix and try recording again. I am not ready to retire my col or SuSE systems but I kinda like the way knoppix works. Ha yes that's what

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-29 Thread Squabsy
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:20:08 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK with ulimit -a I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited file size (blocks, -f) unlimited max locked memory (kbytes, -l)

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-29 Thread Tim Wunder
On Monday 29 September 2003 6:41 am, someone claiming to be Squabsy wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:20:08 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK with ulimit -a I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited file

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:20:08 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK with ulimit -a I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited file size (blocks, -f) unlimited

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: I still don't understand why any of the above limits would create a problem when I'm trying to record a wav file that would be 500k at most. I would propose a test: - Create or find a test file of about 1M bytes - Do this over and and over ... 'cat 1mfile bigfile.wav' and see

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-29 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:49:16 -0500 Squabsy wrote: I still don't understand why any of the above limits would create a problem when I'm trying to record a wav file that would be 500k at most. I would propose a test: - Create or find a test file of about 1M bytes - Do

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-26 Thread Squabsy
On 26 Sep 2003 07:14:54 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Doesn't SuSE have a ulimit command? It can be used to get and set file size limits. OK with ulimit -a I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-24 Thread Squabsy
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:48:42 -0500, Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Squabsy wrote: Yes I noticed that and was going to have a play with it myself. Can you set the bit rate and the hz from the command line ? Yes. It has several of the most common options. There is a companion 'play'

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-23 Thread Squabsy
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:53:08 -0500, Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Squabsy wrote: ... or is there a Linux program that writes straight to disk ? I've been working this afternoon with the 'sox' package from http://sox.sourceforge.net/. It comes with a utility called 'rec' that is

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: Yes I noticed that and was going to have a play with it myself. Can you set the bit rate and the hz from the command line ? Yes. It has several of the most common options. There is a companion 'play' command that takes the same options. The man page tells all. I recompiled 'sox'

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread Squabsy
On 18 Sep 2003 17:54:58 -0400, burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 16:44, Net Llama! wrote: yes, that's the load at the instant that you ran the command. were you attempting to encode a wav when you ran that? if so, then the load appears to be fine. you might want to

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread burns
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:33, Squabsy wrote: Having spent the weekend playing around with it and using TOP to see what's going on I have come to the conclusion that all the Linux softwares I have been trying are indeed storing the file up in RAM then in my swap partition then hanging when it

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread burns
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 06:00, Squabsy wrote: Yes indeed I'm in Sunny :-D Bournemouth on the south coast. For 36 years (I haven't roamed very far I'm afraid) I lived in Northwood, about 6 miles from Watford. The village is split. Half is in the Hillingdon borough of Greater London. The other half

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread Squabsy
be double your ram. I think the recordings I have made get more glichy once the ram run's out and the SWAP kicks in. By changing to 16bit I have managed about 7 mins recording so far before it goes du-du-du-du-du-du-du Recording wavs is really the only major problem I'm having with Linux so I

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread Collins Richey
made get more glichy once the ram run's out and the SWAP kicks in. By changing to 16bit I have managed about 7 mins recording so far before it goes du-du-du-du-du-du-du Recording wavs is really the only major problem I'm having with Linux so I don't want to spend too much. I suppose I could

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: Having spent the weekend playing around with it and using TOP to see what's going on I have come to the conclusion that all the Linux softwares I have been trying are indeed storing the file up in RAM then in my swap partition then hanging when it gets full. The Windows software I

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-22 Thread Michael Hipp
Squabsy wrote: ... or is there a Linux program that writes straight to disk ? I've been working this afternoon with the 'sox' package from http://sox.sourceforge.net/. It comes with a utility called 'rec' that is about the simplest recorder ever. It's a CLI tool, give it a command like ... $

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:11:01 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I've always been under the impression that there wasn't any real audible difference between 8-bit audio and 16-bit. Time for some experimentation... What is the bit rate on Super Audio CDs (SACD)? They are

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Squabsy
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:11:01 -0400, Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Really? I've always been under the impression that there wasn't any real audible difference between 8-bit audio and 16-bit. Time for some experimentation... Having read all the comments over the last few days I went in

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Having played with the above settings and tried saving to different drives I am still getting 1.39 minutes of recording then a lot of stutters as the program hangs. Every WAV file I create no matter which software I use is exactly the same file size 1.09gb

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Squabsy
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:25:58 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is the load on the box when this is happening? You really need to take a snapshot of the system behavior while this is happening. You could also consider using a different window manager. I wouldn't' be at

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 10:49 pm, someone claiming to be Matthew Carpenter wrote: 11 bit is used for a lot of voice. 16 bit is the accepted standard for music... some stereophiles love 24bit, and 32bit just seems a little like overkill. snip A little googling found this link:

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This explains the seeming lack of quality of my recent .WAV recordings. I chalked the problem up to old, deterioted vinyl. Count yourself lucky at least they are longer than 1.39 mins !!! :-) I was looking at some cd's at lunchtime and they were old

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Squabsy
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:25:58 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Having played with the above settings and tried saving to different drives I am still getting 1.39 minutes of recording then a lot of stutters as the program hangs. Every WAV

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:25:58 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Having played with the above settings and tried saving to different drives I am still getting 1.39 minutes of recording then a lot of

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-18 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 16:44, Net Llama! wrote: yes, that's the load at the instant that you ran the command. were you attempting to encode a wav when you ran that? if so, then the load appears to be fine. you might want to just run 'top' the entire time to see what is going on across the

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-17 Thread Squabsy
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:25:38 -0400, Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: FWIW, 20 minutes of 44.1KHz 8-bit stereo recorded from vinyl takes up about 200 MB of space on my ext3 filesystem. RHL 8.0 on an 1GHz Duron with 384MB RAM. And yes, that /windows/C drive looks mighty full. I don't

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-17 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:12:07 +0100 Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: I notice that you state 8 bit I may well have mine set at 16 or even 32bit (can't check till this evening) Is 8 bit adequate For voice quaility 8bit is just fine. For music, no way. 16bit, per channel at 44K/sec adds

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Carpenter
11 bit is used for a lot of voice. 16 bit is the accepted standard for music... some stereophiles love 24bit, and 32bit just seems a little like overkill. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:12:07 +0100 Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:25:38 -0400, Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-17 Thread Tim Wunder
Really? I've always been under the impression that there wasn't any real audible difference between 8-bit audio and 16-bit. Time for some experimentation... Tim On Wednesday 17 September 2003 10:49 pm, someone claiming to be Matthew Carpenter wrote: 11 bit is used for a lot of voice. 16 bit

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you running artsd? If so (Ctrl-Esc brings up Process Manager in KDE) try killing it before starting Audacity. I do not claim to be an expert on aRTs, but I believe it puts hooks into the ALSA system and isn't necessary... and has caused

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hardware problem? What are your hardware specs (CPU, RAM, HD) etc? What do you think would be a reasonable MINIMUM spec for recording a 30 min wav in linux ? My machine copes with it fine in Windows 98se -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A timer? gnome-sound-recorder has a recording timeout as a preference, could be what you're running into I don't seem to have a version of g-s-r with the edit command that is described in the manual I'll have to try and find a more up to date

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:22:20 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition space in any temporary storage location that Audacity (or gnome-sound-recorder, or gramophile) would be using. How would I check this please ? By entering df -h

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:28:32 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hardware problem? What are your hardware specs (CPU, RAM, HD) etc? What do you think would be a reasonable MINIMUM spec for recording a 30 min wav in linux ? My machine

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Tim Wunder
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 4:26 am, someone claiming to be Squabsy wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A timer? gnome-sound-recorder has a recording timeout as a preference, could be what you're running into I don't seem to have a version of g-s-r with the edit command

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition space in any temporary storage location that Audacity (or gnome-sound-recorder, or gramophile) would be using. How would I check this please ? df -h i'd also be really curious what the load is on

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Squabsy
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:57:35 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'd also be really curious what the load is on you box while its encoding (uptime output). OK Thank you all for all you tips help. I will have another play either tonight or tomorrow evening and let you know how I

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Matthew Carpenter
df - Original Message - From: Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:22 AM Subject: Re: recording wavs Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition space in any temporary storage location that Audacity (or gnome-sound-recorder

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Squabsy
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:57:35 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition space in any temporary storage location that Audacity (or gnome-sound-recorder, or gramophile) would be using. How

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:57:35 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition space in any temporary storage location that Audacity (or gnome-sound-recorder,

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-16 Thread Tim Wunder
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 6:41 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:57:35 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or partition

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Squabsy
Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Running out of disk space or memory perhaps? Do you end up with a file? I do end up with a file that is as long as however long I leave Audacity recording for but after 1.39 mins it just repeats the same millisecond of music over over. Gramofile

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Richard Evans
Quoting Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 14 September 2003 6:20 pm, someone claiming to be Squabsy wrote: I am he A timer? gnome-sound-recorder has a recording timeout as a preference, could be what you're running into I did try g-s-r once so maybe I invoked the timer I

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Carpenter
hangs both progs, look deeper, like sound card or irq settings, or hard drive space, etc Good luck! - Original Message - From: Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: recording wavs I'm trying to move from windows over

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Message - From: Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: recording wavs I'm trying to move from windows over to Linux I'm running suse 8.2 Most things I could do in Windows I am able to do in Linux however I am strugling with my

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/15/2003 12:58 PM, someone claiming to be Matthew Carpenter wrote: I am using SuSE 8.2 and the included Audacity, and have been recording, cutting, and burning audio CD's for quite some time now. I do at least one session per week, more like 2 or 3. I don't know what might be causing the

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-15 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 19:01, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Are you running artsd? If so (Ctrl-Esc brings up Process Manager in KDE) Hot damn! I need to learn these sequences! Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stockholm, Sweden http://www.surbrunn.net

recording wavs

2003-09-14 Thread Squabsy
I'm trying to move from windows over to Linux I'm running suse 8.2 Most things I could do in Windows I am able to do in Linux however I am strugling with my ongoing project to burn my old Vinyl collection to CD. In window I used CDwave to record and split the wavs In LInux I have so far tried to

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-14 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/14/03 15:20, Squabsy wrote: I'm trying to move from windows over to Linux I'm running suse 8.2 Most things I could do in Windows I am able to do in Linux however I am strugling with my ongoing project to burn my old Vinyl collection to CD. In window I used CDwave to record and split the

Re: recording wavs

2003-09-14 Thread Tim Wunder
On Sunday 14 September 2003 6:20 pm, someone claiming to be Squabsy wrote: I'm trying to move from windows over to Linux I'm running suse 8.2 Most things I could do in Windows I am able to do in Linux however I am strugling with my ongoing project to burn my old Vinyl collection to CD. In