Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
We need to find our own solution to the new TLD problem, and the cooperative maintenance of the Virtual Inclusive Root. Burying your head in the sand and wishing the problem away won't make it so. Ignore ICANN to your own detriment. Perhaps, but saying these ISO protocols suck and should

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
i don't think the routing registries have signed contracts with ICANN yet On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, at 17:58 [=GMT-0400], Richard J. Sexton wrote: We need to find our own solution to the new TLD problem, and the cooperative maintenance of the Virtual Inclusive Root. Burying your head in

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Is this true? yes it is true Does it not depend on _how_ you work inside ICANN? no it does not depend on how you work inside of icann since the private BWG mail list started in 1998 I have been an active participant in that group of people who have all tried to work within ICANN and

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Beautiful. But who gave you your IP number? dhcp.sorry -- The COOK Report on Internet, 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index to 9 years of the COOK Report at

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-09 Thread Gordon Cook
Which is why we need laws governing the DNS, not committees. -- ken P.S. Richard: Your address: (Richard J. Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED]) always bounces as undeliverable, if that info is helpful to you. you simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND ken... although I admitt I didn't fully

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-09 Thread Gordon Cook
don't be offended, but your method is doomed to failure.. you will NEVER EVER get enough people to understand and to care enough to make a dent in the monolith... what you can do is begin to grasp the end to end problems and see how trust fits and see that if end to end can be

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-09 Thread Gordon Cook
P.S. Stef: You keep presuming I'm advocating centralization. Please do not pidgeon-hole my ideas to fit your expectations. I'm advocating quite the opposite: Decentralized democracy, composed of individuals practicing reponsible self rule from a global sense of our deep interactivity, a

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-08 Thread Gordon Cook
governance mechanism are tiresome because they do not deflect ICANN one nano meter from the path it is on. here is an essay co authored by myself and dave hughes yesterday...send it where you wish The Real ICANN, by Gordon Cook and Dave Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Australian

[IFWP] Rhonda's ravings was On Vint Cerf's comments about Al Gore andthe Internet

2000-10-03 Thread Gordon Cook
I didn't see this message when it came by because I have been filtering rhonda hauben to my trash for the last two years. unfortunately I did see it when someone else naively asked it it were true. I was a participant and a critic in many of the events she ties to describe without a shred

[IFWP] Re: You be the Jury (Polling the Lessig- Sondow exchange)

2000-09-24 Thread Gordon Cook
And open sourced, auditable solution is much preferable over Joop's version of "democracy." -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I certainly like an open source auditable election. Anyone notice yet that with election.com running the ICANN at

would you ever again TRUST Esther Dyson? Re: [IFWP] Regulatorybody?

2000-08-23 Thread Gordon Cook
Well DAMN her to hell and gone! She insults us. how many time in past did she deny that ICANN was a regulatory body or governing body. Does she not remember her argument with Farber on his very point!? No one with a shred of any clue should ever trust this woman again. Let her go off

Re: [IFWP] Re: [icann-board] Re: You are Turning Away OutsideMembers WhoAttemptTo Register

2000-07-31 Thread Gordon Cook
Excellent suggestions eric but contarry to the entire pattern of behavior of these people who believe that they and only they have the god given right to run the internet. "the Internet is for everyone" just look at ICANN and savour the flavor of THAT assertion. "vinton g. cerf" wrote:

[IFWP] Re: Complaint to Dept of Commerce on abuse of users by ICANN

2000-07-31 Thread Gordon Cook
if ICANN gave a damn it would have tried MUCH harder. At 1:26 PM -0400 7/31/00, Richard J. Sexton wrote: It's also worth noting that virtually every other major Internet service has been swamped by unexpected load. Predicting load, and engineering for it without prior experience in that

[IFWP] Re: ICANN Concludes Board Meeting in Yokohama

2000-07-17 Thread Gordon Cook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Large Membership Elections The Board finalized the process for initial selection of five Directors by its At Large Membership. Those Directors should be seated in time for ICANN's annual meeting in Los Angeles on November 13-14, 2000. Following is the

Re: [IFWP] FWD: Extraterrestrials.com up for Auction

2000-06-26 Thread Gordon Cook
You just did esther. your first comment to this list in months.. I wish you many long happy hours in depositions and the court room Ken, as you know, I cannot commment. Esther At 11:15 PM 6/25/00 -0700, you wrote: The marketplace in action Any response? -- ken From:

Re: [IFWP] ICANN's Latest Outrage

2000-05-13 Thread Gordon Cook
Michael Sondow wrote: Diane Cabell wrote: I do not teach a seminar of any kind for the Association of Internet Professionals. Your statement is a total fabrication. A total fabrication? Then why does Bret Fausett's website (http://www.lextext.com/news/3-2.html) say ""Diane

[IFWP] Dave Farber ...Getting the congress involved will backfire. Cook: why?

2000-04-27 Thread Gordon Cook
Dave Farber writes to his IP list: "I am, on the average, very impressed with the staff at the FCC. As I have said before, they do what they believe is best for the country recognizing that they are dealing with powerful industrial players who often run to the Hill and the courts for

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] NSI/Roger Cochetti's registry concept paper

2000-04-18 Thread Gordon Cook
Roger Cochetti says: In other words, put into immediate effect a measure which is currently being hotly disputed and which runs directly counter to the interests of a large percentage of Internet users. In the spirit of gaining new experience and as a reflection of the rapid global growth

Re: [IFWP] A rant to far: from an ex-interniccer

2000-04-12 Thread Gordon Cook
It has always been surprising to me that General Atomics and ATT, who were part of the initial InterNIC, received no flack for notholding up their portion of the Cooperative Agreement. Maybe ATT did some work but their Annual Report of, I believe 1996 didn't even mention that role. Ellen

[IFWP] Question re DNS sec and NAT boxes (was BIND security)

2000-03-15 Thread Gordon Cook
Question for david conrad, DNSSEC is clearly a good thing. But my question is based on my recollection of the IETF list December 99 discussion of unencumbered host to host connectivity across the internet. IPSEC if I recall correctly can't get through a NAT box. Can DNSSEC successfully

[IFWP] Re: [aso-policy] RE: [aso-comment] IP address holders -are they represented?

2000-03-15 Thread Gordon Cook
Mike, david conrad is correct in what he says about routing registries and small isps, they complain vociferously but there are valid technical reasons for what has been done, and since the number of isps has grown from maybe 1000 five years ago to about 10,000 now . of course the non

[IFWP] On DNS as the single point of control for the internet and ICANNas overseer of the problems - part of essay by ed gerck

2000-03-05 Thread Gordon Cook
From the executive summary of the April 2000 COOK Report on Internet. for full summary see http://cookreport.com/09.01.shtml Essays, pp. 23- 27 Thinking We present roughly half of Ed Gerck's Thinking Essay in the belief that readers will begin to understand why we consider it the single

Re: [IFWP] Questions For Ms. Simons

2000-02-23 Thread Gordon Cook
Ms. Simons is very plainly muddle headed. Barbara Simons wrote: Dear Michael, I infer from your note that you approve of my article on government surveillance. I'm glad to hear that. You may also like the article I've included below, a version of which will be appearing in the next issue

Re: [IFWP] http://www.iciiu.org

2000-02-23 Thread Gordon Cook
Hey michael, go read the list archives and you can find out a lotstop whining. On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Richard J. Sexton wrote: Dear Friends, I've tried to find out how the ICIIU is funded but I can't find this piece of information on their web site. Come to think of it, I can't find

Re: [IFWP] http://www.iciiu.org

2000-02-23 Thread Gordon Cook
And I consider myself an ICIIU sympathizer as well Mr. Pawlo. Now may we ask you to disclose where your priorities are? At 12:29 AM 2/24/00 +0100, you wrote: Dear Friends, I've tried to find out how the ICIIU is funded but I can't find this piece of information on their web site. Come to

mistaken identity Re: [IFWP] http://www.iciiu.org

2000-02-23 Thread Gordon Cook
of this planet Gordon Cook wrote: Hey michael, go read the list archives and you can find out a lot. I don't know what you're talking about, and frankly I don't want to know. Go read them yourself. stop whining. You're the one who's been doing all the whining lately: "We all

Re: [IFWP] Re: Re: Update on ICANN Cairo Meetings

2000-02-08 Thread Gordon Cook
ayebrother sextonI believe you.but as someone else who has been alleged to be a paid NSI agent... I must assert that it is widely known that you are a dangerous man..and do you know the filthy rumor mongers come to me and they say that sexton must be a buddy of that other

[IFWP] any corporation who would give the lCANN money for its cairomeeting is advertising to the internet that it hasn't got a clue Fwd:Update on ICANN Cairo Meetings @ Call for Sponsors

2000-02-07 Thread Gordon Cook
these idiots do try don't they? From: "icann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Update on ICANN Cairo Meetings @ Call for Sponsors Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 09:41:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk UPDATE

[IFWP] NSI SEC filing *does* have indirect admission of the sharedregistry design problem

2000-01-24 Thread Gordon Cook
Sigh, I went to the full filling on edgar and looked again. there NSI informs us that " A failure in the operation of our registration system or other events could result in deletion of one or more domain names from the Internet for a period of time. " A failure in the operation or

[IFWP] Is Domain name system Vulnerable to slamming? Network world1/17/2000 page one

2000-01-19 Thread Gordon Cook
Congratulations to Network solutions for being ripped by carolyn duffy marsan in longish article on shared registry protocol imbrogliocomplete with good quotes from ed gerck and patrick falstrom. of course she does blow a lot of her accomplishment with a quote from the bogus jeff

[IFWP] missing URL Re: Is Domain name system Vulnerable to slamming?Network world 1/17/2000 page one

2000-01-19 Thread Gordon Cook
to those asking i have seen this in hadcopy only its probably on their web site but alas I have no url The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA

Re: [IFWP] Reasons we need ICANN

2000-01-05 Thread Gordon Cook
1) If we don't the ITU will take over. Still waiting for Dave Farber and Tamar Frankel for their promised explanations as to why this is true. 2) For the stability of the Interent. No, I havn't lost my miod, I'm just testing my new signature file. Nice sig richard. Uncle Dave the Fox is

[IFWP] here is a lovely example of the sleazy operation which NSI isnow engaged and which ICANN seems willing to allow them to perpetrateFwd: Re: Last Call: Registry Registrar Protocol (RRP) Version 1.1.0 to Informational

2000-01-04 Thread Gordon Cook
Lets see if I understand what Is now being debated on the IETF list. NSI makes shared data base and gets panel of outside experts to comment on the code and protocols designed to implement the data base. The experts tell NSI that what they have designed is a bunch of crap that will lead to

[IFWP] Photographic satire of ICANN available at

1999-12-31 Thread Gordon Cook
http://cookreport.com/neptibalb.shtml these are the costumed buddhist monks of he tengboche monastery near mt everest The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ

[IFWP] register.com sells aol.com to speculator

1999-12-22 Thread Gordon Cook
Here is the bogus stability that mike roberts and esther dyson, and ibm have brought to the internet. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-12/21/113l-122199-idx.html The COOK Report on InternetIndex to

[IFWP] January 2000 COOK Report part 2- IBM's ICANN pp. 19 - 40

1999-12-13 Thread Gordon Cook
In a very long article we summarize our knowledge of the ICANN debate. The article uncovers participants and some of the details of the secret meeting of July 30, 1999. This meeting sponsored and brokered by IBM shows that ICANN, far from being a consensus organization, is the creature of

Let's Name Names Re: Dyson's reply RE: [IFWP] Representations toWTO Conference

1999-11-30 Thread Gordon Cook
This is the unholy alliance that gave us the ICANN board. We still do not know who was part of that alliance, what criteria they used to select the candidates for the initial board, and what quid pro quos were made among those doing selecting. No but there is plenty of circumstantial

RE: [IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submissionfrom[ronda@panix.com]

1999-11-29 Thread Gordon Cook
e NTIA has now taken on these powers? There is no doubt a line connecting the two projects. Perhaps Gordon Cook can connect the dots. I remember at Geneva last year listening to the lawyer from Jones and Day saying that all power of ICANN, according to the bylaws, would

Re: Dyson's reply RE: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference

1999-11-24 Thread Gordon Cook
your reply is helpful. but as far as being scared by alternatives.(too). I don't think I follow you here.. i don't see any aternatives to be scared by...except the MORASS that lessig bemoans... the very morass that allows the icanntes to do what they are doing and get away

Re: [IFWP] Gimme shelter

1999-11-24 Thread Gordon Cook
At 10:55 AM 11/24/99 -0500, Tamar Frankel wrote: I do not think we disagree. I certainly agree with Larry Lessig, and I did read his book. We disagree on the timing. I am willing to be more patient, and hope that people like you will continue to demand more accountability. I did not conclude

Re: [IFWP] new ITU proceeding

1999-11-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Tony. I tried to get http://www.itu.int/itudoc/gs/council/c99/docs/docs1/051.html and was asked for a TIES user name and password. what am i doing wrong? The ITU General Secretariat has launched a proceeding on its role involving the Internet and DNS. This was contained in a 21

[IFWP] Clausing would seem to know what Farber doesn't

1999-11-07 Thread Gordon Cook
Dave Farber wrote: [Does Jerri know something I don't know about the state of the ICANN or is she just being sloppy calling ICANN "The Internet's governing board" djf] I reply: Dave: she knows full well what you seem unwilling to admit.. Of course it is the the governing board. i

[IFWP] Job One, Stiffle ICANN - thoughts Rick White and the history and the organization of the ICANN

1999-10-10 Thread Gordon Cook
As ICANN moves to break its by laws one more time by nominating and then placing ex congressman Rick White on its board lets look one more time at its origins. They begin with Larry Landweber's October 1, 1995 memo to the ISOC board detailing an ISOC master plan successfully carried out over

hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-01 Thread Gordon Cook
h for explaining their ominous but otherwise vague warnings. Gordon Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But now the other part of this picture also begins to come into focus. This is the curious insistence of folk like Vint Cerf, John Patick and Dave Farber to say that if ICANN does not succeed

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John PatricksHouse of Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-01 Thread Gordon Cook
Gordon Cook wrote: greg -- you may be right. Yet if you are right and with an ICANN failure all big business would have to do would be to go to Congress for a quick and easy fix, then I ask what are Cerf and Patrick afraid of? Personally, I think that Cerf and Patrick (and others

[IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks House of Cards - the ICANN NSICartel and DOC authority

1999-09-30 Thread Gordon Cook
After all of ICANN's saber rattling about how it would bing the NSI to heel and through measures ranging up to and includng rebid of the cooperative agreement by sept 30 next year in order to put NSI out of business, we have now a deal where, thanks to DoC and ICANN, NSI has managed to get

[IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks House of Cards - the ICANN NSICartel and DOC authority - part 2

1999-09-30 Thread Gordon Cook
Can DoC Empower ICANN? The answer is likely yes if no one questions highly suspect DOC authority in this area. The big prize seems to be the root zone files. If NTIA closes out is MOU by giving ICANN the root, it will be exercising authority which most observers that we have talked with

Re: [IFWP] from IP ICANN and IBM

1999-09-25 Thread Gordon Cook
Yet another propaganda piece artfully and deceptively designed to reassure those who haven't been paying close attention to facts of what this unsuable unaccountable clique is doing. The pattern of deception continues. ISOC, Vint cerf, Patrick himself, Roberts, Dyson continue to manuever

[IFWP] date of new york times quote on esthers inter est in doing realwork? and to hell with process??

1999-09-25 Thread Gordon Cook
Does anyone have the date and contest for this outstanding comment? In a recent New York Times article, Esther Dyson was quoted as saying "With all due respect, we are less interested in complaints about process" and more interested in "doing real work and moving forward."

[IFWP] ICANN to Move to implement congressional Fix? Fact or Fantasy. You decide.

1999-09-23 Thread Gordon Cook
I have just heard a very disturbing rumor from a very credible source. Former Washington state Congressman Rick White is believed to be running for a seat on the ICANN Board representing the Domain Name Supporting Organization. White, an attorney with Perkins Koie (Coie?) was elected to

[IFWP] A new secret candidate -- ICANN to Move to implementcongressional Fix? Fact or Fantasy. You decide.

1999-09-23 Thread Gordon Cook
idate is likely former Congressman Rick Waters, from the Pacific Northwest, who is apparently very well known and has worked in this area." End quotation from cohen - Gordon Cook speaking: White, an attorney with Perkins Koie (Coie?) was elected to Congress in 1994 as a foot soldier to New

RE: [IFWP] Jim Rutt Should Resign

1999-09-15 Thread Gordon Cook
is accountable to his shareholders, not to the Internet Community (not even to speak about the IFWP list). Regards Roberto -Original Message- From: Gordon Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 1999 9:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IFWP] Jim Rutt Should Resign

[IFWP] Jim Rutt Should Resign

1999-09-14 Thread Gordon Cook
Rutt in his Rutt report said he cared about the internet. That one of his highest priorities was to preserve the freedom and independence of the Internet. Today I heard from a source with primary knowledge that Pincus wasn't lying.that NSI rather than fight ICANN will enable it by

Re: [IFWP] As sent to my IP list Would the U.S. Governmentregulate the Internet? And how will this come about? by Richard J.Solomon

1999-09-14 Thread Gordon Cook
[Richard J. Solomon is the Chief Scientist of the UPenn Center for Communications Technology and Policy and the co-author with Lee McKnight and Russell Neuman of The Gordian Knot: Gridlock on the Information Highway (MIT Press, 1997) Would the U.S. Government regulate the Internet? And how

[IFWP] A useful tool in thinking about what ICANN is up too

1999-09-12 Thread Gordon Cook
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:40:38 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP: "The Regulatory Ratchet" and Interception Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[IFWP] Milton Meuller is the author of the paper on which I relied forthe Intro to Part 2 of the November COOK Report. Also Jim Rutt's Future?

1999-09-12 Thread Gordon Cook
I promised further word on the identity of the author of the paper on which I based the long introduction to my even longer report on ICANN. The author is Professor Milton Mueller of School of Information Studies of Syracuse University. Milton's paper analyzes ICANN as, at least in part, the

Re: [IFWP] PICS and domain names

1999-09-12 Thread Gordon Cook
let's hope she is telling the truth. I for one don't believe that she is. I found Esther's written critique of content "self-regulation," as distributed on Farber's list, to be wonderfully on target--and a great relief. Esther Dyson wrote: FWIW, the first thing I said when I stood up was

[IFWP] November 99 Cook Report -- Icann

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
ISOC'S ICANN COALITION WIDENS ITS CONTROL ATTEMPTS TO REGULATE DNS - INVITES TRADEMARK, IP, ITU, EC, E-COMMERCE INTERESTS TO EXPAND ICANN SCOPE ICANN ALLOWS PROPERTY RIGHTS TELCO REGULATORY INTERESTS TO STRUCTURE SOS TO ENSURE THEIR MAXIMUM ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE ICANN is moving forward

[IFWP] November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role inenabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Editor's Note: If one does not understand how ICANN came to be, one will not grasp the complex interaction of forces that are powering it. It will remain the mysterious black box that can be interpreted differently for different audiences. The tiny group directing it has found it desirable

[IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November CookReport - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enablingICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Dave this is a perfectly reasonable comment. There is only one point on which I STRONGLY disagree with it. you say: If ICANN fails it will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself and we will get "Adult" supervision which believe me we will not like. Vint, Esther, John and

where then are the scenarios? Re: [IFWP] please give us substanceand not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC'scritical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Dave Farber noted his agreement with Greg Skinner's assertion below. Many thanks, yes yes yes At 2:20 PM -0700 9/10/99, Greg Skinner wrote: It strikes me that Farber is not so much defending ICANN (as it currently exists) as he is defending *the process* by which there can be Internet

Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re:November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
This is my concern also. Or some remote NGO. Diane Cabell http://www.mama-tech.com Fausett, Gaeta Lund Boston Then give us substance Diane. Use you lawyerly skills to back up these vague assertions instead of always excusing ICANN's heavy handedness. Some remote NGO. Isn't that just

[IFWP] Looks to me like a likely scenario should icann succeed Re:[IFWP] PICS and domain names

1999-09-10 Thread Gordon Cook
Since Esther's at the global meeting for establishing mandatory net content ratings, and seems to be chafing a bit over it, I'd like to point something out: Domain names would probably have to be rated as well. Since Esther *is* at this conference, and is the de facto face of ICANN, shouldn't

Re: [IFWP] Outcome or details of today's ICANN BoD teleconference?

1999-09-09 Thread Gordon Cook
would be nice to know indeed i suspect that they will approve another extension of the testbed since nsi would sign their capitulation papers. more important is that i hope brock meeks is covering the confirmation hear ings for the new administrator of NTIA. lets hope he gets asked

Re: [IFWP] Outcome or details of today's ICANN BoD teleconference?

1999-09-09 Thread Gordon Cook
Gordon Cook wrote: more important is that i hope brock meeks is covering the confirmation hear ings for the new administrator of NTIA. Who is it? Michael Sondow I.C.I.I.U. http://www.iciiu.org Tel. (718)846

[IFWP] Pat Townson's note to fenello post in telecom digest vol. 19 #369

1999-09-03 Thread Gordon Cook
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And that comment about 'without any of the messy enforcement problems' got him in some hot water along with adding still more fuel to the fire in the ICANN controversy. ICANN has some very bizarre ways they want to deal with domain name disputes to say the least

[IFWP] a correction to Follow the Money Trail

1999-09-01 Thread Gordon Cook
The text of my essay last night contained an inadvertent error and an ambiguity. Here is the problematic text: While ICANN has been a closed door black box, the Europeans do have two members of a ten member board. Before they sit back with satisfaction that Christopher Wilkinson has their

[IFWP] Follow the Money: an Inside View of ICANN Fundraising

1999-08-31 Thread Gordon Cook
Follow the Money: an Inside View of ICANN Fundraising The COOK Report has received the full text of nine email messages detailing ICANN's efforts in June to stave off bankruptcy. It has obtained independent verification that they are messages that were given by ICANN to the House Commerce

[IFWP] esther's wpp reward

1999-08-29 Thread Gordon Cook
Although her ICANN role may have brought her some discomfort, she has picked up some nice rewards this year. The first was her very own television commercial on behalf of IBM's e-commerce campaign. The second came on June 8th when in London, the WPP Group PLC, one of the largest advertising

Re: [IFWP] Alumnum foil hat: official headgear of the POC.

1999-08-28 Thread Gordon Cook
gee...huge laughthanks At 10:36 PM 8/26/99 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote: Bah, what crapof course sondow is real. geez richard, secondary cookreport will you so I can be fantasized about by these idiots. Done. Anybody else need secondary service and want to be part of the conspiracy

Re: [IFWP] Conspiracy theories.

1999-08-26 Thread Gordon Cook
Bah, what crapof course sondow is real. geez richard, secondary cookreport will you so I can be fantasized about by these idiots. Craig maybe when you live another 25 or 30 years you will see enough examples of socialist and their caring ideology turning into tyranny to know better than

Re: [IFWP] GAC throws press, Nader rep out of meeting,nationalizes Internet identifiers

1999-08-25 Thread Gordon Cook
note that jerri Claussing refers to icann in the haedline as "internet's Governing Body" the lady has that right. wonder how that will go down the throats of the icann apologists? NYTimes http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/08/cyber/articles/25domain.html CNET

Re: [IFWP] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsind-iana-dns-00.txt

1999-08-25 Thread Gordon Cook
OKtony or someone else.what has to happen before this becomes effective as far as IETF is concerned? does bill manning whose salary is paid by ICANN, eastlake who works for one of the primary implementors of ICANN and the guy from nokia have the power to implement the gac's wishes?

[IFWP] Re: New Internet Draft Gives Authority to Governments

1999-08-25 Thread Gordon Cook
Look who wrote this: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (IBM) Eric Brunner (Nokia) Eric has been active in First Nation issues; maybe this is the first step towards genuinely independent domains for them. (And you thought 250 was a reasonable number off xxTLDs!) kerry sorry I don't understand what

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Can we really afford ICANN ?

1999-08-25 Thread Gordon Cook
oooh.wake up gordo.sorry I KNOW** now** what financials ellen was talking about.cancell that last send SIGH! ... This is NOT a criticism of Berkman. If Berkman had not risen to the task, we wouldn't even get to see the financials. Indeed. The Berkman folks have

Re: [IFWP] Government takeover of Internet (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Gordon Cook
basic netiquette jeff mason, if I send you a message to you alone it generally is because I don't want to take a disagreement into the public domain.to take the contents of a private message and make them public without the permission of the sender is just not done.defining private

Re: [IFWP] Government takeover of Internet (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Gordon Cook
to jeff mason plonk The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA http://cookreport.com (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) The only Good ICANN is a Dead

Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-Santiago Remote Participation

1999-08-23 Thread Gordon Cook
* Moderator's Choice. A Berkman staff person -- primarily Professor Zittrain, for those of you wondering! -- reviews all the messages received prior to the first time remote comments are recognized on a particular subject, and he reads the ones that he thinks are most significant.

Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Gordon Cook
my understanding is that estee has a friend at ogilvie who agreed to lend ogilvies services at a greatly reduced rateseems that ogilvie thought the prestiege of being the firm that sold the net down the river was too much for ogilvie to pass up. once again I ask for accounting

[IFWP] Re: Theories on media bias

1999-08-16 Thread Gordon Cook
Complexity, confusion, etc. can't possibly explain the media blackout on ICANN! Maybe not, but if I were an editor, simplistic political concepts, such as identifying concern for anything but neoliberal economics as Socialism, would rather put me off publishing your piece. Good judgement

[IFWP] Re: ICANN/NSI latest round

1999-08-14 Thread Gordon Cook
The two seats formerly held by NSI will now be represented by David R. Johnson and Phil L. Sbarbaro An NSI seat has been taken from NSI and given instead to its attorney? Is ICANN that dumb or is this a major con job? They certainly didnt improve their credibility by submitting

Re: [IFWP] catch 22?

1999-08-12 Thread Gordon Cook
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Gordon Cook wrote: if the internet is to be homogenized or globalized under uniform laws and controls, let it be done openly and honestly and NOT under the guise of setting up ICANN to bring competition into dns and protect us from evil NSI.. although I must say

Re: [IFWP] Is the gTLD Workgroup outcome already decided by theCORE faction? And a criticism of the media.

1999-08-12 Thread Gordon Cook
Please rest assured that this item below is not based on fact - "may" =/= "will" and CORE can anticipate what it wants without making it so. ICANN has made no decisions in this regardand cannot at this point, as most of you know. Esther, I am glad to see your denial, because when the CORE

Re: [IFWP] News

1999-08-11 Thread Gordon Cook
http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2311649,00.html randy barret. ignorant fool The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA

Re: [IFWP] News

1999-08-11 Thread Gordon Cook
legal authority. At 12:46 PM -0400 8/11/99, Nick Patience wrote: There is a comment option on the site, I'm surprised it's still empty :) http://www.zdnet.com/tlkbck/comment/321/0,7091,68185-new,00.html At 11:55 AM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote: At 11:27 AM 8/11/99 , Gordon Cook wrote: http

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Gordon Cook
yeah, I do remember when you called memust have been at least 2 years ago you sounded dreadfully reasonable It took other people at least 4 to 6 weeks to convince me that you were part crazy alternic/edns crowd and therefore not taken seriously This stuff is far to much off

Re: [IFWP] Internet stability

1999-08-04 Thread Gordon Cook
Ah yes, what bliss ignorance isthanks for reminding me why I filtered both these people. Hey Bob, what plans to You Ronda and Bill have for us ? At 10:38 PM 8/3/99 -0700, you wrote: At 08:13 AM 8/3/99 -0400, you wrote: Concerning the following stuff below, much of this discussion

Re: [IFWP] Internet stability

1999-08-03 Thread Gordon Cook
At 07:57 AM 8/3/99 -0400, Ronda Hauben wrote: And the Internet isn't "private computer networks". Prove it. don't look for ronda to respond in any reasonable fashion as far as i can tell she is simply not interested in taking her blinders off. This program posts news to thousands of

Re: [IFWP] Internet stability

1999-08-03 Thread Gordon Cook
Oh my god, so ronda as the denizen of usenet can't see the telecommunications world except through USEnet glasses too funny why can't you get it through you head ronda that Tony is talking international telecommunications *LAW* as defined by the ITU and by governments which are obliged

Re: [IFWP] Internet stability

1999-08-03 Thread Gordon Cook
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[IFWP] Re: Internet stability

1999-08-01 Thread Gordon Cook
Ms. Burr, That was hardly very helpful. When did you receive the proposal? Where is the text? Or does it have to be FOIAed? When will you complete your review and reach a decision? Why don't you answer Dan's question? Are we to infer that in your opinion these servers have no influence

[IFWP] incompetent and false dns reporting from network world

1999-07-29 Thread Gordon Cook
carolyn duffy marsan in a 3/4 page article writes "Indeed just the threat of competition has already brought some of these benefits to the market place. Internet name registration fees, for example have dropped from $100 for a two year registration to $70." the drop in price she cites is

[IFWP] Is every day that NET Sol refuses to Sue DoC (Pincus and Burr) abreach of its fiduciary duty to its stakeholders?

1999-07-28 Thread Gordon Cook
When NSI initiates legal action against the department of commerce, the house of cards built by the clinton gore administration on the commerce NTIA foundation will come crashing down. Pincus has been warned that his assertions will not withstand the scrutiny of the discovery process but he

Re: [IFWP] Analogical thought

1999-07-27 Thread Gordon Cook
Nice post Jim. I interviewed the CTO of Williams (Tulsa OK) today. He is selling OC48s as single lambdas using Sycamore transponders at 60% of the price of the sonet equivatent. provisioning time 6 days as opposed to 6 months for sonet. They have had the service commercially released for

Re: [IFWP] Re: Hilights from today's hearing

1999-07-24 Thread Gordon Cook
Diane and Karl, In the context of the Network Solutions Cooperative Agreement, the creation of the whois database did not create a US government asset nor was it intended to do so. It wasn't intended for the primary (let alone "exclusive") benefit of the government. Such benefit was merely

RE: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Re: [IFWP] What I would have said...

1999-07-24 Thread Gordon Cook
I filtered him about 2 weeks ago. quality of life is much enhanced since then We now have three clear ad hominem attacks by Dave Crocker. The question is, do we continue to tolerate them? The COOK Report on Internet

[IFWP] SAIC is now a minority share holder owner of Network solutions

1999-07-23 Thread Gordon Cook
COOK: I did not realize that SAIC was now a minority shareholder. Certainly still with enormous influence, but at least without outright control. From Edgar: Excerpts Form 10-Q for NETWORK SOLUTIONS INC /DE/ filed on May 17 1999 SECONDARY STOCK OFFERING On February 12, 1999, Network

[IFWP] incompetent and false reporting as usual from washington post

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/july99/internet22.htm The roots of the current conflict extend back to 1992, when the Internet was the territory of academics and computer enthusiasts. Needing an organization to manage

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
absolutely Jay. how do you think the slime from alex ogilvie earn their hoped for future fees from ICANN except by saying to esther appear to drop your fee and open a board meeting and you will get news stories where you look truly reformed because well will write release telling lazy

[IFWP] ICANN teams with DOJ against Commerce and NSI - Rutt Better formAlernative Root

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
Given today's events, Jim Rutt better announce the formation of a Global Open Registry Association and solicit the 224 country code TLDs to join the Registry Association before the GAC makes them obsolete. The Registry Association better also form its own independent Root and invite the 224

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