Re: [pfSense] [Filters engaged]

2013-10-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 06:20:56PM -0400, Joe Landman wrote: I just worked out setting up new filters for the recent S/N destroying, high tin-foil-hat content, on gmail. Since people pleading for this to go away hasn't worked, technological measures to restore S/N for my inbox on this list

Re: [pfSense] fail2ban

2013-10-10 Thread mayak
On 10/10/2013 09:01 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: We get a lot of attempts to guess weak ftp passwords on our servers. A tool which we've used before (and is really nice) is fail2ban. In response to a certain type or number of failed attempts, it can run a script (for example, to load a

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/10/2013 09:38, Thinker Rix wrote: On 2013-10-10 01:13, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:05:22 +0300 Thinker Rix thinke...@rocketmail.com wrote: Well, actually I started this thread with a pretty frank, straight-forward and very simple question. That's right and they

Re: [pfSense] [Filters engaged]

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 01:20, Joe Landman wrote: I just worked out setting up new filters for the recent S/N destroying, high tin-foil-hat content, on gmail. Since people pleading for this to go away hasn't worked, technological measures to restore S/N for my inbox on this list have been engaged.

Re: [pfSense] [Filters engaged]

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 01:27, Robison, Dave wrote: On 10/09/2013 15:20, Joe Landman wrote: I just worked out setting up new filters for the recent S/N destroying, high tin-foil-hat content, on gmail. Since people pleading for this to go away hasn't worked, technological measures to restore S/N for my

Re: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
*I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 10:20 AM EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong here and we would all like it to stop.* I guess it is wise to just speak for yourself, instead of using this cheap rhetorical trick to pretend being a

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
Hi Giles On 2013-10-10 12:39, Giles Coochey wrote: On 10/10/2013 09:38, Thinker Rix wrote: On 2013-10-10 01:13, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:05:22 +0300 Thinker Rix thinke...@rocketmail.com wrote: Well, actually I started this thread with a pretty frank,

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Rüdiger G . Biernat
This discussion about security/NSA/encryption IS important. Please go on. Von Samsung Mobile gesendet Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net Datum:10.10.2013 11:39 (GMT+01:00) An: list@lists.pfsense.org Betreff: Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense

[pfSense] Crypto/RNG Suggestions

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Pingle
I'm moving this to a fresh thread so that it will be unencumbered by the other discussion that has strayed a bit. Even if one were to ignore government agency interference, finding the best crypto choices is a good topic, but it can easily get lost in the other discussion when some people have

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 15:55, Ian Bowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis alexandre.para...@gmail.com mailto:alexandre.para...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being overlooked by NSA doesn't mean everybody don't care. On Thu, Oct

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/10/2013 13:55, Ian Bowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis alexandre.para...@gmail.com mailto:alexandre.para...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being overlooked by NSA doesn't mean everybody don't care. On Thu,

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 16:08, Giles Coochey wrote: On 10/10/2013 13:55, Ian Bowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis alexandre.para...@gmail.com mailto:alexandre.para...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being overlooked by NSA doesn't

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Ian Bowers
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Thinker Rix thinke...@rocketmail.comwrote: On 2013-10-10 15:55, Ian Bowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis alexandre.para...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being overlooked by NSA doesn't

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread ognen
I rarely participate in public political discussions but I have to say something: In the United States if the government sent someonean NSL - they would not be allowed to comment. You have been told that already and have been told that to the best knowledge of the people involved, no other

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Giles Coochey
Trying to get this back on-topic, I will change the subject however, to alleviate the issues the anti-tin-foil-hat-brigade have. (ps I am also top-posting on purpose as I believe the conversation below has near to no relevance to my questions, but simply is an argument as to whether these

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Paul Mather
On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 10/10/2013 13:55, Ian Bowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis alexandre.para...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being overlooked by NSA doesn't mean everybody

[pfSense] Now people are trying to remove my email from the list from IP 129.2.129.152 (... Fwd: confirm )

2013-10-10 Thread Giles Coochey
Dear Sir, Through participating on the pfsense support and discussion list, someone from an IP address under your control has attempted to unsubscribe me from this list. I see this as an abuse of the mailing list and hope that you take appropriate action. The IP that the request came from

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Bagnall
I've deliberately stayed out of the political discussion, but interested in this more technical discussion… On 10 Oct 2013, at 14:50, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: 2. Cipher Selection - we're not all cryptoanalysts, so statements like 'trust the math' don't always mean much to us,

Re: [pfSense] SIP problems.

2013-10-10 Thread Vick Khera
Can you configure your phones to use do a keepalive ping? It sounds like the states are timing out. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM, palesius . pales...@gmail.com wrote: To take a break from all the NSA talk... I'm having some trouble routing traffic over an openvpn tunnel between two

Re: [pfSense] fail2ban

2013-10-10 Thread Yehuda Katz
We use Fail2Ban with pfSense with a custom php script (on the firewall) that adds the appropriate firewall rules. We have fail2ban set up with multiple levels - so the action to ban in pfSense only happens after several attempts at other services on one machine. That way we can assume the ban

[pfSense] Syncing alias lists

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Bagnall
Greetings list, Does anyone know if it's possible to 'sync' alias lists across pfSense units? I could probably knock something together in $scripting_language_du_jour to backup each unit's config, update the alias list, then restore the new config back to the device, but a) that would involve

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 16:52, Paul Mather wrote: On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net mailto:gi...@coochey.net wrote: *BLINK!* Incredible the way I am seeing the reaction to the initial question, and trying to query very valid points are now leading me to seriously

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Ian Bowers
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: Trying to get this back on-topic, I will change the subject however, to alleviate the issues the anti-tin-foil-hat-brigade have. (ps I am also top-posting on purpose as I believe the conversation below has near to no

Re: [pfSense] Now people are trying to remove my email from the list from IP 129.2.129.152 (... Fwd: confirm )

2013-10-10 Thread Alexandre Paradis
same ip for me tried to remove me from the mailing list. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: Dear Sir, Through participating on the pfsense support and discussion list, someone from an IP address under your control has attempted to unsubscribe me from

Re: [pfSense] Syncing alias lists

2013-10-10 Thread Vick Khera
The HA facility of pfSense will sync various configs. Look at the checkboxes to determine what gets synced to see if that is suitable for your need. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.ccwrote: Greetings list, Does anyone know if it's possible to 'sync'

Re: [pfSense] Syncing alias lists

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 10 Oct 2013, at 15:25, Vick Khera vi...@khera.org wrote: The HA facility of pfSense will sync various configs. Look at the checkboxes to determine what gets synced to see if that is suitable for your need. Is that not designed for multiple units at one site? In this scenario, the client

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Yehuda Katz
Since we keep coming back to FreeBSD as it pertains to security: 3) FreeBSD is very mature, and very well reviewed. I've looked into FreeBSD to my personal satisfaction. OpenBSD may be abrasive as a community at times, but their work product is pretty impressive in terms of being clean and

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 02:50:41PM +0100, Giles Coochey wrote: 1. The random number generator - As pfSense uses FreeBSD this may well be a FreeBSD specific question, however, are there any ways within pfsense that we can improve the entropy pool that the random number gets its randomness

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
Hi Giles, On 2013-10-10 16:50, Giles Coochey wrote: Trying to get this back on-topic, I will change the subject however Giles, please note that Jim Pingle has already started a new thread for this purpose that he named [pfSense] Crypto/RNG Suggestions today. It seems to be beneficial to add

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Paul Mather
On Oct 10, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Thinker Rix thinke...@rocketmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-10 16:52, Paul Mather wrote: On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: *BLINK!* Incredible the way I am seeing the reaction to the initial question, and trying to query

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Pingle
On 10/10/2013 11:35 AM, Thinker Rix wrote: I want to upgrade from 2.0.1 to 2.1 and am wondering which FreeBSD-version 2.1 is based on, since I am using some packages from there. The table found here https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_and_FreeBSD_Versions has not been updated yet, it

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
Hi Warren, thank you for your quick reply! On 2013-10-10 18:39, Warren Baker wrote: On 10 Oct 2013 17:36, Thinker Rix thinke...@rocketmail.com mailto:thinke...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hi all! I want to upgrade from 2.0.1 to 2.1 and am wondering which FreeBSD-version 2.1 is based on, since

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 18:54, Jim Pingle wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:35 AM, Thinker Rix wrote: Is there someone who knows wich version of FreeBSD 2.1 is based on? 8.3-RELEASE-p11 It was going to be 8.3 the TBD part was for the patchlevel. It ended up being -p11 by the time 2.1 was released. Thank you

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
Hi Paul. On 2013-10-10 18:42, Paul Mather wrote: Thank you for the valuable information about how to use mailing lists. You are welcome! ;-) I first started using mailing lists back in the mid/late 1980s, on the JANET network (British academic network)---back when the Internet was made up

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Pingle
On 10/10/2013 11:57 AM, Thinker Rix wrote: Can you / someone please confirm that the following is the correct repository for me to use, when installing packages of FreeBSD on pfSense 2.1: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.3-RELEASE/packages/All/ You shouldn't need

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix
On 2013-10-10 19:25, Jim Pingle wrote: comprehensive explanation help Thank you very much, Jim! Best regards Thinker Rix ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Yehuda Katz yeh...@ymkatz.net wrote: Since we keep coming back to FreeBSD as it pertains to security: 3) FreeBSD is very mature, and very well reviewed. I've looked into FreeBSD to my personal satisfaction. OpenBSD may be abrasive as a community at times,

Re: [pfSense] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by big brother NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Paul Mather p...@gromit.dlib.vt.edu wrote: I first started using mailing lists back in the mid/late 1980s, You’re not the only one. :-) I too was entertained by the n00b trying to tell grandpa how to use email. Jim

Re: [pfSense] pfSense 2.1: which FreeBSD version?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Jim Pingle li...@pingle.org wrote: You shouldn't need the -archive bits since 8.3 is still a supported release. Until next April, anyway. ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org

Re: [pfSense] Can pfSense be considered trusted? What implementations of VPNs can now be trusted?

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 10/10/2013 15:04, Chris Bagnall wrote: What made you change from AES to Blowfish, and is there any evidence to suggest that Blowfish is more 'secure' than AES? My understanding is that AES was championed by an agency

Re: [pfSense] Need help with carp failover

2013-10-10 Thread Adrian Zaugg
Hi Dan What are your settings on the Firewall - Virtual IPs Menu for each interface and device, especially VHID and advertising frequency? Please also make sure not to tick Synchronize Virtual IPs on the HA Settings Page. Regards, Adrian. On 9/27/13 5:09 PM, Dan wrote: On 09/27/2013 10:43

Re: [pfSense] Syncing alias lists

2013-10-10 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.ccwrote: In this scenario, the client has units at different sites (not all in the same country, even). Oh, glossed over that part. :( Perhaps you could have a script that fetched the aliases configuration and pushed it

Re: [pfSense] fail2ban

2013-10-10 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jostein Elvaker Haande jehaa...@gmail.com wrote: I've talked to the development team about this in the past, and what I was told back then was this: with 1.3, you could achieve an API like behavior with using curl or similar tools, but this would be close to