Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
differing viewpoint.
Nice BLINK tags.
bss? Biological Sciences Staff? Hmmm.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer'
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming
with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters
but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone
wants to hav a look.
Dave...
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
see you all at the next meeting,
Greg
--
Greg McCarroll
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
OK.
From: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone read/heard about http://www.zebware.com/ ? I just read an article
on
them in Open (Jan 2001) issue.
I haven't tried this with Netscape but with IE every element on their
pages
is drag and drop-able in an impressive/disconcerting way. They
According to a mail I got on the SPUG mailimng list last night, TPJ #20 _has_ been
printed and is in the post now.
Which is good news.
Dave...
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:11:20AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
from this quarters BT bill I managed to accumulate 786 hours of internet
time .. anyone top that?
I dunno how much it cost per minute, but I averaged five hundred quid per
quarter on the ISDN bill - and I had some free time as
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming
with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters
but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone
wants to hav a look.
Yes please, I'm just starting a project whereby I have to
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Robin Houston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
(and all of it was also included in other distros).
That's true -- but how
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to be written by clueful
programmers.
And competent *ix
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:56:07AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
Robin Szemeti wrote:
as a matter of interest what is your fave Linux or *nix install then??
From what I've been reading on this list, Debian seems to be argued for
quite a lot, as is FreeBSD (? I think -- one of the BSDs,
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:40:56PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then
there's nothing they can do...
Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
differing viewpoint.
OK ... when I said "there's nothing they
Tony Bowden wrote:
The classic case is someone who retypes a phone book. You
can't reissue it in the same order (i.e. alphabetic by surname)
as the original, but you could quite happily order it numberic
by phone number and no-one could do anything...
They could in Germany :-).
There's been
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to be
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?
Dave...
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me.
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Why keep giving the money to the pimps^H^H^H^H^H agencies?
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of me being too damned lazy
to
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:22:45AM +, Robin Houston wrote:
MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET
but
MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRES.COPYCAT.WANNABE.SUBVERSIVES.NET
is quite a good explanation of what's happened :-)
Yeah, this was NTKed some time ago.
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
--
Duncan Bates
Developer
Proxicom UK
Tel: 020 7321 3812
Mobile: 07884 336 532
http://www.proxicom.com/
for people who are coming to the tech meeting tonight -- do you have any
whiteboard pens you could bring along?
to avoid unnecessary confusion, list traffic and whiteboard pens, if
whiteboard pen owners could mail me directly offering to bring some, I'll
reply to the first person saying "yes
David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable
powerbook..
Movie intermission anyone?
I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-)
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
TERRORISTS.NET.IS.SO.FUCKING.31338.NET
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
AMAZON.COM.SHOULD.SELL.SEXTOYSONLINE.COM
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
--
Duncan Bates
Developer
Proxicom UK
Tel: 020 7321 3812
Mobile: 07884 336 532
* John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hmmm, does sound good though.
it all depends what you mean, do you mean a proper consultancy or
a bunch of people getting together to share accounting/marketting?
if its a proper consultancy, you'd have to wear suits, be polite
and be in work for 9 in the
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:41:29AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable
powerbook..
Movie intermission anyone?
Cool, 20 minutes is plenty enough to watch all the good bits in The Matrix.
God bless chapter-seek.
--
Richard Clamp
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
jimphillips has one on Microsoft too.
MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UEBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
Hmmm
/Robert
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
ditto, except today is the first day of similar flu-like illness :(
sorry i wont be there to do the
"Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- Original Message -
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:25
Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson
As I've never met you all in person (hopefully to be rectified on February
1st, can't come tonight as we're boarding the loft..don't ask) I don't know
how big a party animal you all are, however some of you may be interested
that Linkdup/Uploaded are having a party on February 1st at the
Tony Bowden wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code to commercial app looks like?"
Under (U.S.)
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code
Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give
a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I could give a talk on either Flash stuff (again, although there's not
much else to say ATM that people don't already
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:05
I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-)
That all sounds a bit Spinal Tap.
"We hope you like our new direction" :)
Dave...
--
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one".
*That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:53:12PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
Is this relevant at all?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16147.html
"The injunction was granted thanks to new European database laws that
essentially assume data to be copyrightable"
Almost certainly. As I say, my legal
Netscape has;
NETSCAPE.COM.SHOULD-DUMP.AOL-AND-REHIRE.JWZ.BUT.CHECK-OUT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
mallum
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:12:19PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
jimphillips has one on Microsoft too.
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer. And the task.
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 13:46
Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the
day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to
talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I could give a talk on either Flash stuff
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that
if we were selling ourselves as top-notch Perl consultants (Dave H's
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer.
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:29:20PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that
if we
At 11:41 18/01/01, binkyuk wrote:
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Dave told us to:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by
stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about
Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business
with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want
to create a proper consulting business
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do people want to create a small
business with a few perl programmers
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Didn't they appear at the Albert Hall with a orchestra in 1970? Their
early exposure to classical music didn't impro^H^H^H^H^H change their
direction much.
They did it again last year and hauled the orchestra round Europe this
time.
BTW if anyone
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer. And
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:03:39 +, "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 18, 4:57am, Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by
stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about
Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I can talk all
People (no particular order):
==
= Pimp = = Accountant =
==
== =
= BOFH = = Security Guru =
==
[snip the first bit... all great]
Location
A big pub in central London.
Top floors: development
Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
Purleese wireless is the only way to go. :-)
Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
People (no particular order):
==
= Pimp = = Accountant =
==
== =
= BOFH =
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
equity surely? ;-)
Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;)
But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not you.
FWIW It's much easier to negotiate with
Leo Lapworth wrote:
Location
A big pub in central London.
Top floors: development
Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens etc..
What about a bed / kip room and of course a
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
equity surely? ;-)
Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;)
But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not
Neil So who's any good at business plans... (I have a book but)
I know a few things about setting up and running SMEs. Happy to sit down
for an hour or so one evening with someone if it would be of assistance.
Unfortunately, I'm far too tied up with current venture to get much more
Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Leo Lapworth wrote:
Location
A big pub in central London.
Top floors: development
Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
Basement: disco / conference
In a bad mailbox incident I lost a couple of mails from BOFH inclined
people. Would y'all mail me again please?
Ta,
Dave
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Apache, mod_perl,
From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More effective, yes, because none of the THC is lost to the atmosphere.
However, it takes an hour or so to notice the effects coming on and
when they do, there's no way to stop them. So you might end up ingesting
twice as much as
From: "Leo Lapworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a contact who says he can get hold of a million or
so VC if this was an actually business plan, but then you
have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
That's not VC then, that's a "loan". VC is where you heave up a huge chunk of
cash in
Welcome to London.pm ;-)
From: "Niklas Nordebo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, I have a problem I hoped someone might be able to help me with,
when trying to compile mod_perl statically into Apache on my Debian box I get
apt-get install libapache-mod-perl gets you the dynamic version -- is there a
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:28:13AM -0800, Paul Makepeace typed:
apt-get install libapache-mod-perl gets you the dynamic version -- is there a
particular advantage to having it statically built?
Want mod_perl and mod_ssl? Debian stable doesn't do this easily without
recompilation.
R
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
People (no particular order):
==
= Pimp = = Accountant =
==
== =
= BOFH = =
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at
success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those
started by MBAs or middle managers..
business sense !=
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is a million considered a lot in the UK still?
Not by people who can add up.
OK, same here then. Having said that, it's amazing how much people can
stretch a few $currency_unit if they *don't* have investment :-)
But then so's a 24hr stretch of
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables,
vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas
(San Antonio) not California though -- relatively
earthquake/tornado/storm/etc-free!
You're talking
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:11:23PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, it's always amazed me just how crap the north American power system
seems to be. Even in cities.
This is a different issue, http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/power.crisis/
I
Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters. You just don't write good
code at 2 in the morning, and end up spending just as much time untangling
it as you did
Thanks to all for visiting our humble factory. I hope you all enjoyed it
as much as I.
We have gained a set of whiteboard pens, and a pile of andy wardley's
notes. Any takers?
The slight downside was a brief invasion by a unshaven fellow clutching a
can of tennants extra. He asked if he
An entity claiming to be Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Mail me privately for a URL of a working thoth installation.
:
That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom.
Mark
--
Mark Rogaski | "What in the ding-dong-heckama-doodle
Mark Rogaski wrote:
An entity claiming to be Roger Burton West
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Mail me privately for a URL of a working thoth installation.
That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't
referring to Tom.
I think he doesn't use that appellation any more. BICBW.
Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in
the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing
So do people smoke the stuff (as opposed to consumption) for convenience
or maybe the familiarity of the ritual of smoking?
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