Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread AEF
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Which is the ISO standard (number 8601) for dates for a very good reason. Dave... [who actually prefers MMDD because it sorts numerically] ISO8601 allows MMDD too (IIRC). Tony

ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:43 20/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Which is the ISO standard (number 8601) for dates for a very good reason. I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy. I appreciate this is how they make money to fund the standards work but it seems a tad steep for the casual

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread AEF
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy. I appreciate this is how they make money to fund the standards work but it seems a tad steep for the casual viewer such as myself. Anyone know of a free online resource ? Useful

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:37:32 + (GMT), AEF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy. I appreciate this is how they make money to fund the standards work but it seems a tad steep for the

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 06:42 21/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:37:32 + (GMT), AEF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Useful Summary: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html Standard: ftp://ftp.qsl.net/pub/g1smd/8601v03.pdf This one seems to be a second edition although the

RE: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
This site seems to confirm it tho: http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm Hmmm, 11 reasons to use this format: 5 of these reasons are "Because it makes it easier for me to write software if you do" which don't carry much weight IMNSHO However, in the spirit of standardisation, I'd like

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Piers Cawley
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This site seems to confirm it tho: http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm Hmmm, 11 reasons to use this format: 5 of these reasons are "Because it makes it easier for me to write software if you do" which don't carry much weight

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 11:23:59AM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: At 11:43 20/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Which is the ISO standard (number 8601) for dates for a very good reason. I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy. I appreciate this is how they make

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote: Jonathan Peterson writes: Please use: ISO planet code, ISO country code, POSTCODE, Building Number[, apartment number][, business name] [snippage] Peterson, Jonathan Earth, UK, W1H 6LT, 40, Ideashub 2001-03-21 That works for the UK,

Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Marty Pauley
On Tue Mar 20 15:13:07 2001, David H. Adler wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:34:06PM +, David Cantrell wrote: You are Michael Schwern, and I claim your m4d h41rkut skillz. Oh, get real. Schwern has *no* relation to haircuts *at all*... - Forwarded message from Michael G

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Merijn Broeren
Quoting Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please use: ISO planet code, ISO country code, POSTCODE, Building Number[, apartment number][, business name] Please move to one of the former USSR countries, they write their addresses there like that.

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote: Human postmen can do amazing things, like deliver letters addresses to "John Smith, the house with the blue door, near the flower shop in the main street in Newtownards". blimey .. he really _IS_ a martian .. must be ... down here on Earth the postmen can't

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Redvers Davies
LASTNAME, [FIRSTNAME|FIRST INITIAL] and if you don't have a last name??? I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit cards have a "." as a surname because the bank computers couldn't handle a lack of surname.

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Mark Fowler
On 2001, Mar, 21, Wed Pauley, Marley wrote: That would work if 'significant' was well defined in relation to names, but it isn't. It works with dates because 'significant' has a well defined meaning in relation to numerical quantities. I wonder what Larry thinks about this. Later. Mark.

Falco!

2001-03-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Oopsy daisy $job--; #not my fault! If anyone wants to employ me please say so. Will wear suit for food. I do management strategy marchitecture stuff. Or Perl if necessary. Or Solaris sysadmin if desperate. Laters, Jon Jonathan PetersonIdeas Hub Ltd (t) +44 (0)20 7487

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:19:57 + (GMT), Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. To be honest, we have no idea what is good, what is bad, etc, and so I suggested asking you lot. We've been looking through a Learning Tree

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: On 2001, 21, Mar, Wed Stevens, Michael wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:19:57PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. Wasn't there some kerazy scheme to get london.pm doing courses? Sorry.

RE: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Andrew Bowman
[Continuing off-topic - not a surprise on London.pm, I'm sure (I thought Mr. Cantrell's [ot] the other day denoted 'on-topic' :--)] From: Marty Pauley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] In some countries the 'family name' is actually defined by your job, location, or other mutable property. It used to

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what I think they would need to learn: a) Get hit over the head a bit with my, local, strict, good programming practices. Maybe a quick refresher on how arrays, hashes and suchlike really work. (In terms of passing between

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On 21 Mar 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: d) Debugging Amen MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7956 613942 (Mobile) perl -e 'print reverse split//,"\n.rekcah lreP rehtona tsuJ"' perl

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread James Powell
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:31:06PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: What do you need? If you can get three or four people interested in doing the same course and can supply a suitable room, then Iterative would be only too happy to help you out. I'm interested if there are courses on offer.

RE: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Jones
I'm interested if there are courses on offer. There's only so much you can do with just yourself and a pile of O'Reilly books. I'd love to help, but we're not in a position to offer public courses yet - the cost of hiring rooms and PCs is too prohibitive. Who said anything about doing

RE: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread dcross - David Cross
On 2001, 21, Mar, Wed, Cross, Dave wrote: At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:19:57 + (GMT), Mark Fowler wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. As far as I can see, none of the scheduled courses in the UK are much cop. What do you need? If

RE: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Matthew Jones
I'm interested if there are courses on offer. There's only so much you can do with just yourself and a pile of O'Reilly books. The mind boggles ;) No, not the *mind*! ;) Oh, I forgot to mention the Prairie Squid (de-beaked, of course). -- matt "'scuse me trooper, will you be needing

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:19:57PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. To be honest, we have no idea what is good, what is bad, etc, and so I suggested asking you lot. NetThink will be running some courses soon. Don't want to

Re: Balding Badly-Coiffed Hackers (was Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.)

2001-03-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:49:17PM -, Jonathan Stowe wrote: What are we saying here, Michael Schwern is that Alien Drag Queen ? You know... that would explain a lot.. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ ... we didn't know what the hell we were

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread celia
I know you said this: Mark Fowler wrote: I'd like a course to make *sure* they do but courses aside, books are still good. In particular, the Andrew L Johnson book ("Elements of Programming with Perl", as rec'd by davorg) is really handy when it comes to being: a) [...] hit over the head a

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Nathan Torkington
Mark Fowler wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. To be honest, we have no idea what is good, what is bad, etc, and so I suggested asking you lot. The London Open Source Convention will have Perl tutorials. If only I could say precisely when it would

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread Simon Cozens
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:15:17AM -, Dean S Wilson wrote: Anyone submitting anything for this? http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2001/ Yup, I've been approached for some tutorials for that. -- It's a short step from using alt.binaries.warez.protocol-droids.c3p0 to Palpatine seeing a post

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 10:22:34PM +, celia wrote: / me delurks - don't worry, you won't see much of me round here :) But... why?? dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ philosophy department - you don't have to be to work here, but it helps

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread celia
David H. Adler wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 10:22:34PM +, celia wrote: / me delurks - don't worry, you won't see much of me round here :) But... why?? Why I delurked, or why you won't see much of me on this list? The answer to both is that I'll only post if I have something useful