On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 06:30:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
>Simon Wilcox wrote:
>> I avoided HTML::Embperl, HTML::Mason & Apache::ASP because they all
>> embed perl into the template which is a Bad Thing (tm).
>
>Why is that so evil?
>
>I'm willing to be enlightened here.
Separation of code a
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>First, are there any others that I should look at? Also I'd really like
>any objective input people have about templating with these modules. It
>is important to me to try and not just get the article done and dusted,
>but for once
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:41:57AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
>"Users will say: I don't have Flash and don't want to download it.
>Therefore, I should leave out the Flash bits of the site. Users will say: I
>read that JavaScript can expose security holes, so I'll turn it off.
>Therefore, I will
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:01:05AM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
>Mmmm, so if there are 3 water lilies with circular leaves, what is the
>largest they can grow on the surface of a sphere without overlap?
>On a circle it's easy to see it's just less than the radius of the
>circle. Not so easy with
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:52:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>Ok, now how can you distribute N points around the origin in _3_ dimensions,
>again all of them at the same distance from the origin? Obviously
>there will be an imaginary sphere again, but where do you put the points.
Best general
On or about Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:01:33AM +0100, Robert Thompson typed:
>CSV is an option - except that an awful lot of the data will need to be
>escaped out before it goes into the file, and I would rather only have to do
>when its rendered out to the browser.
DBD::CSV is your friend. Sits on
On or about Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:10:32AM +0100, Robin Szemeti typed:
>someone somewhere a few weeks ago posted something about an extra line
>you could put not dissimilar to 'Apparent-filename: something.xyz' .. its
>not so much a mime types thing but a browser thing ..
Content-Disposition.
On or about Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 11:40:20AM +0100, Robin Szemeti typed:
>I just dont get why they wont release specs .. surel;y the plan is to
>sell as many memory sticks as possible? ..or hav I missed someting?
Yup. The plan is (a) not to get kicked out of bed by MS and (b) not to
have cheap me
On or about Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 04:58:11PM -0700, Paul Makepeace typed:
>At the end of the day, the simple fact is that Windows 2000 crashes more
>frequently than *n[ui]x does -- this surely is unquestioned fact.
Bear in mind also this item from Monday's RISKS (21.44):
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 1
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 08:04:46PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
>is 15 quid a shot
>cheap [ ]
>normal [ ]
>expensive [ ]
>for lobbing a dat tape into a box and slinging in a new one?
It's not Telehouse prices, but it sounds expensive to me.
R
On or about Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:03PM +0100, David Cantrell typed:
>Pah!
>
>Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,
>Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.
>O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,
>To Communism's triumph lead us on!
Humbug!
The people's flag is black as night
>
On or about Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:27:44PM +0100, Paul Mison typed:
>(Isn't
>there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee shenanigans?)
http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/bankhol.htm
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:07:31PM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed:
>yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
>has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$
>ploy to control the standard install packages?
"I'll take option C for six mill
On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler typed:
>I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
>and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly
>switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
>installer
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:23:32PM +0100, Cross David - dcross typed:
>I've not actually seen the manifesto, but from what I'm told it really means
If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes to look, why the hell are
you posting about it? The actual text is:
"A future Conservative
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:02:33PM +0100, Simon Wistow typed:
>According to the Register ...
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html
>
>the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local
>Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning tha
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:48:17PM +0100, Robert Thompson typed:
>Open up the file, read in the first few bytes and grab the magic number.
>Most types of binary file have a marker of some kind to designate what they
>are. Any half decent book on graphics programming should be able to tel
On or about Mon, May 21, 2001 at 05:09:50PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed:
>Ah, an excellent typo consisting of one additional character, one omitted character,
>and a transposed pair. I shall put it in my collection. I should say by the look of
>it, this one was speed induced.
>
>Goes off to
On or about Fri, May 18, 2001 at 09:29:42AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>"As far as it being sensual, that is not a word you would attribute to
>country music."
They obviously haven't been listening to The Archers recently.
R
On or about Thu, May 17, 2001 at 05:25:52PM +0100, Simon Cozens typed:
>Or you could do it in two lines:
>
>my $i;
>my %rank = map { $_ => ++$i } sort {$scores{$a} <=> $scores{$b}} keys %scores;
But can you make it do:
1. 20
2. 17
2. 17
4. 15
etc.?
Roger
On or about Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:57:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed:
>
>Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components,
>i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+).
I've had success with DABS - just make sure the thing's in stock before
ordering.
Roger
On or about Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:26:07PM +0100, Robin Houston typed:
> One XP day passes fast, since you programmed all day long long
> exerted with your colleagues. That means it not that you look your
> partner with the work over the shoulder. In the opposite. To be in the
> pair to program
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:56PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
>And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that
>our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the
>whole point.
Oh, that's easy.
- Being employed is a good thing.
- People with degrees are m
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:54:26PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo typed:
>On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:50:53PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
>> It's crap, but... http://www.ecdl.com/
>Isn't that more of a Microsoft Driving License?
You expected something else from politicians (granted, not professiona
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:32PM +, Steve Mynott typed:
>Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> If you really work for ebookers.com, why are you sending from a hotmail
>> address? It doesn't lend credence to your request to have somebody else
>> unsubscribed from this list
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:29:41AM -0500, will typed:
>Has anyone seen some perl around here? I thought I saw some earlier but it
>sems to have gone now :-)
use Politics;
use Quantum::Superpositions;
(the rest I leave to your imagination)
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:37:23AM +0100, Cross David - dcross typed:
>Here's a pretty fundamental issue. Why do so many people seem to think that
>low taxes are good?
Because many people think that they are better judges of how their own
money should be spent than the government (of wh
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>> When have they ever been asked?
>During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I
>reckon) seen as the guardian of the public services, the party that is
>traditionally associated
In 1997 the UK
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:45:45AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>I genuinely believe that the
>public are sick of watching the NHS, education system etc wasting away on a
>starvation diet and would be willing to pay a bit of extra tax to make sure
>that their kids can get schooled and tha
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:32:33AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson typed:
>Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices.
>> They're not sufficiently reliable or intuitive. Bad marketing has
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Struan Donald typed:
>but then any reasonably flexible multi-purpose device is always going
>to have a hard time being a consumer device as by it's nature it's
>complex and trying to make complex things appear simple is very very
>hard.
Yes.
Th
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:48:41AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed:
>You know, from the outside, Unix looks so well designed and clean and modern...
>From the outside, Windows looks as if it works.
ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices.
They're not s
On or about Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald typed:
>kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into
>a file for, say, writing vi macros?
ctrl-x 0 d
but using it in a search/replace pattern is harder.
Roger
>On Wed, 09 May 2001, you wrote:
>I could get you one and deliver it to the
>Pederels Oak for probably a hundred quid including transport.
Hmm. You just want us to get thrown out even more vehemently than last
time, don't you?
Roger
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 08:49:56PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
>A cow-orker of mine had to be told that Spain was in Europe, not South
>America.
Cue story about Spanish woman being turned away from the "Hispanic"
channel at US Immigration.
Roger
On or about Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:29:10PM +0100, Martin Ling typed:
>And our masterful social engineering strategy for getting his address
>is...?
Tell him he's gay if he doesn't admit his address.
R
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:25:16PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
>Oh, and I'm feeling generous, so I'll buy a drink for the first person
>to place the quote in my .signature ;-)
Real Genius. Um, Mitch?
Roger
On or about Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:46:16AM -0700, Paul Makepeace typed:
>Does anyone have any Real World experience with the speed-up (even
>hand-wavy vague anecdotes) of using bind values v. reparsing the SQL
>each time (for databases that support this obviously). Postgres and
>Oracle I'm partic
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:33:36PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
>actually .. nutscrape under Linux annoys me when it insists on looking up
>a hostname no matter how hard you click on the stop button .. bad
>threading.
Excellent reason to use a proxy. Junkbuster's good...
Roger
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:34:02AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
>What I object to is
>paying twice, which is what would be happening if I paid a monthly
>subscription to see the digital BBC channels that nobody actually wants[1].
>[1]troll
Don't worry, I didn't get the job with them to work on th
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:11:47AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
>Warning - MSB used to have the reputation of being the biggest bunch of
>cowboys in the recruitment industry. I wouldn't normally pass this on
>but thought it might be of interest to some of the ex-Torrington people.
FYI this particula
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:13:37AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote:
>Thanks for the help guys...
>
>This looks even more wierd though
>Why is the same server apearing on several lines???
Definitely a routeing loop. Layman's version: cityreach.uk.psi.net's
network is fscked.
Roger
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:33:19AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can any one tell me what this traceroute actually means... it has me
>completely confused (not that difficult actually!!)
Yup. The machines on hops 11-24 aren't answering the traceroute
packets, but are passing them on. Possib
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:24:03PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
>Unfortunately, while the disclaimer came out fine, my mailer (MS Outlook)
>displayed the real "body" (with your message) as an attachment.
That would be because it was sent uuencoded. I'm sure there's a reason
for this, but I don't
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:44AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
>explosives
http://firedrake.org/roger/fireworks/
'nuff said.
R
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:05:22PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>Both do. The Anchor does better real ale :-)
Though both have been known to run out early in the evening and leave
nothing worth drinking except Guinness.
R
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:44:04AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
>4.46 Nick Cleaton
Ought to be on here, ask Gellyfish...
>4.46 Maurice Buxton
Coo, I'm on 4.46 as well.
Roger
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
>those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO's causing
now, and then think about competition for "good"
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
>Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.
Me too. Looking for senior developer/senior unix admin (ideally a blend
of the two), permanent, London, no Windows. CV on request.
Roger
On or about Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 02:48:48PM +, Marcel Grunauer typed:
>dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
Will truncate long package names.
Roger
On or about Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:43:28PM +, David Cantrell typed:
>is there an easy way of getting a list of all the packages which are
>currently installed? I dislike dselect intensely, and the docs for
>dpkg et al don't say anything useful.
To make a loca
On or about Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 12:24:38PM -0500, Chris Devers typed:
>Would a CPAN replacement have to be "drop-in"? I can see the argument behind making
>replacements for MSA code be functionally identical in most visible ways, but when
>you're dealing with CPAN code, presumably, you're deal
On or about Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Dave Cross typed:
>I really think I should drop the author a polite note offering him a
>patch or three.
s/entire_file/strftime/ ?
Roger
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 01:58:14AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
>the keyfile was an ascii armoured v6.5.8 keyfile, 1024 bit RSA that I
>got with pgp -kxa .. GPG said 'unrecognised key format' since one of the
>things I need is for users to be able to export their public keys from
>PGP then being
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 02:01:11PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
>I haven't considered the GPG option yet .. its going to be for a user
>thing .. and PGP is more common .. I am right in thinking that GPG and
>PGP are basically different and not interchangeable aren't I ?
No.
>Itried
>importing PG
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:45:34PM -, Jim Gillespie wrote:
>My main beef with CVS (and ClearCase) is that there doesn't seem to be any
>way to access the release string programatically - I can tag all my source
>as "FOO_R1-0" or whatever, but I can't tell from within the source that it
>has b
On or about Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:06:16PM +, Dominic Mitchell typed:
>On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:19:54PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
>> Content-type: matter-transport/beer-stream
>For the unenlightened, please consult the standards document:
>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:39:12PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:19:54PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
>> > Content-type: matter-transport/beer-stream
>> Isn't that what happens in the bogs of Penderels Oak?
>Is it just me w
On or about Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:00:22PM +, Greg McCarroll typed:
>* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> They won't if you stop running the ftp daemon on the server :)
>Rule one of security:
> Ensure availability for authorised users
Rule zero of security:
A system with n
On or about Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:34:32PM +, Jon Eyre typed:
>is there an idiot-proof graphical front-end for scp? windows
>clients?
PuTTY.
>my several users require them, or they'll just continue
>using ftp, because it's *easier*... People are lazy, and security
>measures which are a
On or about Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:34:03PM +0100, Philip Newton typed:
>Generally, @INC contains '.', so it should work (though remember that
>Net::SMTP has to go into ./Net/SMTP.pm and not ./SMTP.pm or ./Net::SMTP.pm).
>Otherwise, use lib '.' should be your friend.
I believe IIS does horribly
On or about Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:31:09AM +, Leon Brocard typed:
>Roger Burton West sent the following bits through the ether:
>> ]librsync (http://freshmeat.net/projects/librsync/)
>I was *sure* something like this was already on CPAN[1]. H. I still
>don't really
This strikes me as something that needs a perl module... anyone feeling
particularly bored and like playing with XS?
]librsync (http://freshmeat.net/projects/librsync/)
] by Martin Pool (http://freshmeat.net/users/bootswork/)
]
]librsync makes the network-delta functions of the popular rsync fil
On or about Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:44:31PM +, Greg McCarroll typed:
>someone simplified this to ...
>
> meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of
> the month
Guilty. What can I say, it was my first meeting.
Roger
On or about Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:16:17PM +, Struan Donald typed:
>to be more helpful see above[1].
>[1]: wondering how to make mutt do things in the right order when
>replying to multiple posts.
Tag the posts you want, then reverse the sort order (shift-o whatsit).
Roger
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed:
>Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over
>matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league .
>Does this appeal to anyone ? gambling is optional .
You mean... actual physical exertion?
H
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:46:18AM +, Simon Wistow typed:
>yet another t-shirt idea methinks
any(@londonpm)
R
...is it still happening? When? Where?
Roger
On or about Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 11:26:02AM -, dcross - David Cross typed:
>Nah. That's what it's said for the last two weeks. They haven't got round
>changing it to '24 hours' yet.
Mine's "1 on hand", but there are other things in that order.
R
On or about Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels typed:
>I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.
http://www.perlfaq.com/faqs/id/205
Roger
On or about Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:50:40PM +, Matthew Robinson typed:
>Here you go, directions to Torrington. The address is:
>
>Torrington Interactive
>2 Printing House Yard
>London
>E2 7PR
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533478&Y=182733&A=Y&Z=1
>Printing House Yard is on
On or about Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:04:10PM +, Neil Ford typed:
>I know a number of people on here have boxes at Mailbox, so I'd be
>interested to hear people's thoughts. On the list or by private email
>is fine.
Mostly no complaints, but they've had more than their share of
routeing probl
On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
>(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest
order.
Roger
On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:31:16AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:28:37AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
>> >I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
>> >Michael
>> we're all there fine
>> in actuall fact as I type this you've just appear
On or about Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 02:11:41PM +0100, Philip Newton typed:
>Granitecanyon? The boxes that are chronically down? Which resulted in me
>getting mail from the domain registry telling me to get a working nameserver
>up with thein week or they might yank the domain? Where noone seems to c
On or about Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:23:38AM +, Jonathan Stowe typed:
>Does anyone have any feelings to delegating the DNS to servers under our
>own control at some juncture ?
I'll be happy to provide secondary - box is in Mailbox's Fulham location.
See also soa.granitecanyon.com.
Roger
On or about Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:08:22PM -, Jonathan Peterson typed:
>> And then people wonder why I like open source...
>Even within OS software there's good support and bad support. There's plenty
>of OS software that _doesn't_ have helpful user groups, and has very poor
>documentation a
On or about Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:23:26AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:19:02AM +0000, Roger Burton West wrote:
>> Dell offer this on some of their servers. IMHO this is always a waste of
>> money - they don't provide anything that you cou
On or about Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:07:02AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>I imagine you could get a pc service contract on the same level as
>Sun do, but I have no experience in the area. Has anyone got any experience
>paying vast amounts of money for PC support? did you get much for your
>money
On or about Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:48:50PM +, Redvers Davies typed:
>If you run enlightment as a windowmanager you can use the URL
>epplet. You simply highlight the URL (or a lump of text which contains
>a URL) and click "www", "ftp" or "get". WWW opens up a web browser,
>ftp opens up an x
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson typed:
>We are assuming technical type book here then? I wonder if anyone has
>written a novel in Latex?
Closest I've seen is role-playing materials written in LyX - but
they're pretty technical in organisation.
Roger
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:15:34PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>What box I want depends on the local environment - windows boxes can
>be easier to run on windows networks, and linux boxes on more unixy or
>open networks.
I just find Windows too bloody frustrating whenever I want to do
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and
>IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't
>try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going
>"
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins
>you see outside offices.
D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text.
Anyone played much with PowerArchiver? Freeware WinZip clo
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
>Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot
>that some people use windows.
If only I could.
Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows...
R
On or about Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:19:04PM +, Robin Szemeti typed:
>After our meeting yesterday and some careful consideration by the
>management team it turns out you are just too damn dumb. We have worked
>with chewing gum brighter than you.
We regret to inform you that our shipments of
On or about Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:09:40PM +, Robin Houston typed:
>Did you mean
>http://www.webreview.com/archives/broken/2000/04_07_00.shtml
>?
Yes. Been a while since I looked at that one.
R
On or about Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:33:44PM +, Robin Szemeti typed:
>there
>is a whole class of clients so clueless (' I just want one of those
>dot-com things') that you probably need another level of handholding ...
>they discuss the artistic and 'feelgood' bits of the project in as
>preci
On or about Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:51:59PM -, Robert Shiels typed:
>Often, when I do something that I consider really easy and spend little
>effort on it, I get lots of really good feedback. Alternatively if I spend
>weeks on a trickey problem, no one says anything. This seems like a similar
On or about Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 10:44:11AM +, Neil Ford typed:
>That just has me conjering up images of turning up at a client site
>in a big black van (screeching tyres obligatory) and either leaping
>out laptops in hand or just unrollong some CAT5 and plugging into
>their network :-)
W
On or about Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 11:08:29PM +, Piers Cawley typed:
>And if the Big Cheese does hand down decisions that override the
>Minion then the contract between developer and client should stipulate
>that the client pays for the wasted time.
Contracts _should_ say that the client pays
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote:
>Yup. There isn't enough talent around, so people get promoted beyond
>their competence. If you train your people they'll only leave.
>
>The only way out of that cycle is to train in-house,
>and treat people so well that they stay.
Wh
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 10:28:13AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
>One customer. On site. Full time. Absolute honesty.
Nice idea if you have customers who can take the truth, and who know
when to shut up and let people get on with things. I'd like to see
it working, but I haven't yet.
R
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:12:25AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The customers _must_ be kept isolated from the developers.
>That's exactly wrong.
>And the XP book explains why far better than I ever could.
It may b
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:24:24AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
>The vision I have is of a team (or teams) working in *our* premises,
>with customers working with us.
(side-rant)
The customers _must_ be kept isolated from the developers. This is
the single most important thing the customer-interfa
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:58:41PM +, Richard Clamp typed:
>On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:44:42PM +0000, Roger Burton West wrote:
>> I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff
>> aren't usually available as packages.
>Untrue
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:39:47AM -0500, Dave Cross typed:
>It'll be purely for home use, so:
I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff
aren't usually available as packages. Upside: doesn't mess you about
the way the Windowsy distributions (RH, SuSE) do.
R
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:29:18AM -0500, Dave Cross typed:
>So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use.
What are you planning to do on the box?
Roger
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:35:32AM -0500, Mark Rogaski typed:
>That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom.
You weren't at the technical meeting last night, were you? This thoth
is a network monitoring system.
R
For the benefit of those who want to know more about thoth, the network
monitoring system I mentioned just now:
ftp://firedrake.org/thoth/
http://firedrake.org/thoth/
(there's even some documentation!)
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