RE: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Thomas Barrett

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
> > 
> > is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are 
> PC100 and not
> > PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able 
> to use the PC133s
> > so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order 
> to purchase
> > slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch 
> the order Alex?
> 
> umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even 
> though I only
> have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using 
> faster memory
> in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
> around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, 
> its usually
> faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

>From http://www.directron.com/faqmemory.html
2. Can I mix PC -100 and PC-133 memory in the same system
If the system supports 100MHz memory, you can normally use
133MHz memory in it as well, and can even mix the two. However,
there would be no advantage gained as the 133MHz memory will only
run at the bus speed of 100MHz. Using the 133MHz memory will not
make the system more stable if it is being Over-clocked. Some
systems, though, will balk at the incorrect speed being reported by
the Serial Presence Detect program. We suggest using only the
memory specified by the system manufacturer, and cannot guaranty
that memory which is different than the manufacturer specifies will
be 100% compatible

HTH

TCB



Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Jon Galliers

I have a spare pc100 DIMM, 128Mb, CAS2. Could you use this.




Thanks
Jon

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Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
> 
> is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not
> PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s
> so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase
> slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch the order Alex?

umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even though I only
have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using faster memory
in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, its usually
faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

My feeling was by buying PC133 RAM it was something that would come in
useful in the futrure, where as PC100 will probably not be much use if I
upgraded my mobo.

Of course having said that it guarantees that your server will not accept
the PC133, in which case I'm sure you'll have no end of happy volunteers
(myself included) offering to swap it for similar PC100 units, so I
wouldn;t worry about it too much.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Shiels

From: "Philip Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able
to
> use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?
>
> And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
> speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
> PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the
memory
> doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
> (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
> doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Well, that sounds encouraging. Lets stick with the current order then - I
didn't know you could mix-n-match the two types of RAM on the same board,
I'm still thrilled that with DIMMs you don't need to add them in matching
pairs :-)

Even if there is a problem, I'll volunteer to buy the PC133 chips for my
server at home.

/Robert




Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Dean

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:29:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
> speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
> PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
> doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
> (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
> doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

If you have a board capable of running at PC100 and you have a mix of 100
and 133 then it'll all run fine at 100.

If you have a board capable of running at PC133 and you have a mix of 100
and 133 it'll still run fine but only at 100. Lowest common as you'd
expect.

Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
   --- Anon



Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Philip Newton

Robert Shiels wrote:
> As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not PC133. I strongly expect
> the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s so either we
> need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase slower
> RAM.

Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able to
use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
(And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Cheers,
Philip
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Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Shiels

http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg

is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not
PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s
so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase
slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch the order Alex?

--
Robert