Re: [Lsr] WG AdoptionCall-draft-gong-lsr-ospf-unreachable-link(02/23/24 - 03/08/24)

2024-03-13 Thread tom petch
-D is published.. Changing it just introduces the scope for mistakes. Don't do it. Ever. Tom Petch p.s. I wonder if anyone has ever appealed to the IESG against a decision to change th name of an I-D:-) Thanks, Yingzhen On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 9:38 PM Christian Hopps mailto:cho

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-isis-sr-yang-19.txt

2024-01-18 Thread tom petch
ation with segment routing."; NEW "This augments ISIS protocol configuration with segment routing for the MPLS data plane."; Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 31 December 2023 06:30 To: i-d-annou

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (YANG Model for OSPFv3 Extended LSAs) to Proposed Standard

2024-01-16 Thread tom petch
or secondary sources, the secondary can only get it wrong; you always go back to the primary (unless or until the primary is replaced which is not the case for most of the definitions here). > On Jan 13, 2024, at 07:42, tom petch wrote: > > From: Lsr on behalf of The IESG > > Sent: 11

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-00.txt

2024-01-15 Thread tom petch
in line Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (YANG Model for OSPFv3 Extended LSAs) to Proposed Standard

2024-01-13 Thread tom petch
defeats me. It is present in a daigram, s.3.6, but with no explanation. Reading RFC5340 it could be A.4.3 but I am not sure Tom Petch Abstract This document defines a YANG data model augmenting the IETF OSPF YANG model to provide support for OSPFv3 Link State Advertisement (LSA

[Lsr] 8665 and 8666 in the datatracker

2024-01-10 Thread tom petch
that although by the time of publication, LSR as well underway, yet it remained an OSPF RFC. Other RFC with seemingly similar metadata did not join the RFC Editor Queue until after the LSR WG had come into being and so have been regarded as LSR RFC and listed as such in the datatracker. Tom Petch

Re: [Lsr] AF: RFC8666 updates RFC8665?

2024-01-02 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem Sent: 01 January 2024 13:14 > On Dec 30, 2023, at 06:56, tom petch wrote: > > Going through ospf-sr-yang-25 (and no, I do not want a new version for > Christmas!) it seems to me that RFC8666 updates, RFC8665 even if the metadata > does not mention it. &

[Lsr] SID et al. in Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-25.txt

2024-01-02 Thread tom petch
repetition Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 19 December 2023 21:41 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-25.txt Internet-Draft draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-25.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Link State

Re: [Lsr] AF: RFC8666 updates RFC8665?

2024-01-01 Thread tom petch
nd RFC8666 as Normative References and defines a leaf 'af' whose definition in RFC8666 contradicts that in RFC8665 unless and until RFC8666 is seen as updating RFC8665 and which could confuse those who comprehend the Normative References, IMHO., Tom Petch Thanks, Yingzhen On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 3

[Lsr] AF in Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-25.txt

2024-01-01 Thread tom petch
but is it your intention? Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 19 December 2023 21:41 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-25.txt Internet-Draft draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2024-01-01 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem Sent: 12 December 2023 22:25 Hi Tom, > On Dec 11, 2023, at 7:45 AM, tom petch wrote: Acee top posting since most of my comments are addressed in -25 (which I have reviewed) Renaming the YANG module is a pain but probably needs doing on the assumpt

[Lsr] AF: RFC8666 updates RFC8665?

2023-12-30 Thread tom petch
is which I will post separately. Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-18 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem Sent: 18 December 2023 13:14 To: tom petch Cc: julien.meu...@orange.com; Routing Directorate; draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang@ietf.org; Lsr Subject: Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang Tom, On Dec 18, 2023, at 07:47, tom petch wrote: I have yet to catch

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-18 Thread tom petch
- but the call never came. I think my comments are addressed in -21, when ospfv3 was added, but I will check again in -24 Tom Petch From: Acee Lindem Sent: 12 December 2023 22:25 To: tom petch Cc: julien.meu...@orange.com; Routing Directorate; draft

Re: [Lsr] RFC8665

2023-12-14 Thread tom petch
d on lsr, the former not. mm Tom Petch Les > -Original Message- > From: tom petch > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 9:34 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr-cha...@ietf.org > Cc: lsr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: RFC8665 > > From: Les Ginsber

Re: [Lsr] RFC8665

2023-12-13 Thread tom petch
pages which just consumes more of my time to find. I am thinking that the metadata may be wrong and there will be other problems but as yet have no evidence thereof. Tom Petch Les > -Original Message- > From: Lsr On Behalf Of tom petch > Sent: Monday, December 11, 202

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-11 Thread tom petch
"SRMS preference TLV, value from 0 to 255."; so what? what difference soes it make to be 0 or 255 or 42? Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 05 December 2023 08:15 Hi Acee, I've looked at the diff: the new version l

[Lsr] RFC8665

2023-12-11 Thread tom petch
I look in vain in the datatracker for RFC8665. Document search finds it, the data tracker does not list it. I realise that it is not a product of the lsr WG but then neither are RFC9129 or RFC8920 AFAICTand they are listed. Odd; well, irritating to be precise. Tom Petch

Re: [Lsr] [yang-doctors] draft-ietf-isis-sr-yang and draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-04 Thread tom petch
e list "IS-IS will not advertise nor receive any mapping server..." 'not receive' implies a filter for such traffic. Perhaps not act upon. /allows to advertise/advertises/ /allows to enable/controls/ " /* Notifications */ " probably redundant or else something missing On to OSPF (s

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-02 Thread tom petch
see other minor glitches which I hope to flag next week. Tom Petch From: julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 08:35 To: tom petch Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang Hi Tom, That looks to me like

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-01 Thread tom petch
opinion on the router-id type. type or value? I have annotated my copy of the I-D with the word 'Good' alongside the values of the router-type:-) Tom Petch Julien On 29/11/2023 17:33, tom petch wrote: > Why is this review on rt...@ietf.org and not on lsr@ietf.org? > >

Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-11-30 Thread tom petch
Why is this review on rt...@ietf.org and not on lsr@ietf.org? Tom Petch From: rtgwg on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 29 November 2023 16:03 To: rtg-...@ietf.org Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang@ietf.org; rt...@ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-20 Thread tom petch
to me. I will shut up now and let the process take its course. Tom Petch Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 tom petch 发送时间: 2023年9月15日 18:41 收件人: Aijun Wang ; John Scudder ; cho...@chopps.org 抄送: lsr ; draft-ppsenak

Re: [Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-15 Thread tom petch
then express in response to a consensus call. The facts may persuade some, they may not persuade others but it is the summation of views expressed on the list that determines the consensus, not facts. Tom Petch Hi, Chris: I have asked Acee the following questions (https://mailarchive.ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-14 Thread tom petch
to me to be next step. Tom Petch We request the WG document be based on the https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/, because it is the first document to initiate the use case, provide the explicit signaling mechanism, and cover more scenarios. It’s

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt

2023-09-13 Thread tom petch
to at a future date. Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 11 September 2023 12:25 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt Internet-Draft draft-ietf-lsr-igp

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2023-08-23 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem Sent: 21 August 2023 15:52 Hi Tom, Thanks for the review. > On Aug 21, 2023, at 06:57, tom petch wrote: > > From: Lsr on behalf of Christian Hopps > > Sent: 19 August 2023 01:26 > > This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Sep 1,

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2023-08-21 Thread tom petch
ection the data objects relate to reference "RFC 8362: OSPFv3 Link State Advertisement (LSA) Extensibility, Appendix B - AreaExtendedLSASupport"; (twice) Appendix B is Area Configuration Parameters Tom Petch Authors, Please indicate to the list, your k

Re: [Lsr] Extended LSA: was I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-admin-tags-08.txt

2023-06-12 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem Sent: 09 June 2023 16:05 Hi Tom, I believe Yingzhen and I have fixed all of these nits in the -14 version. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/ yes, looks good, Tom Petch > On Jun 1, 2023, at 6:16 AM, tom petch wrote: > > Ac

Re: [Lsr] Extended LSA: was I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-admin-tags-08.txt

2023-06-01 Thread tom petch
Acee My comments all relate to the 'latter I-D', that is to the extended LSAs YANG model, the one you really want to publish and not to the admin tags (which you will doubtless want to publish in due course). Tom Petch. _ From: Acee Lindem Sent: 31 May 2023

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-admin-tags-08.txt

2023-05-31 Thread tom petch
/opf:ospfv3/ospf:body: here and elsewhere, what is the final colon doing? contact URL is out of date references to OSPF YANG need updating to the RFC 'Figure .. ' now appears in four places, doubtless a 'good idea' from the tool makers. Like I say, not justifying a new I-D just yet IMHO. Tom

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-terminology-08: (with COMMENT)

2023-05-25 Thread tom petch
ocuments as well. I don’t know what the DOWNREF registry is. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ A registry of documents which have been approved by the IESG for use as DOWNREFs in the past and so do not need further approval or a mention in the Last Call notice Tom Petch > ## Nits &

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes) to Proposed Standard

2023-04-26 Thread tom petch
the IANA actions when they review it. Tom Petch > -Original Message- > From: tom petch > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 4:55 AM > > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Sent: 20 April 2023 17:21 > > Tom - > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/isis-tlv-codepoint

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes) to Proposed Standard

2023-04-21 Thread tom petch
ed 7.4 Likewise, the IANA page has bit 3 Flexible Algorithm RFC9350 which the I-D lacks 7.5 you got there before me but IANA starts the name with I S I S which as above I think significant in this context. Tom Petch Les > -Original Message- > From: tom petch > Sent:

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes) to Proposed Standard

2023-04-20 Thread tom petch
From: John Scudder Sent: 20 April 2023 13:45 To: tom petch Cc: cho...@chopps.org; draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919...@ietf.org; lsr-cha...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes) to Proposed Standard Hi Tom, Thanks for catching this, sorry I

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes) to Proposed Standard

2023-04-20 Thread tom petch
the "IS-IS TLV Codepoints" registry to control the assignment " When I go to the IANA website I see lots of I S - I S under which it might be but not that particular one. What is it by another name? Tom Petch Abstract Existing traffic-engineering-related link attribu

[Lsr] Identifying an instance

2022-12-12 Thread tom petch
number). Is this the recommended way of doing it? Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis-00

2022-12-12 Thread tom petch
involvement with the IETF that I get feedback some years down the line along the lines that my suggestions were better than they seemed at the time so I continue to make them (I also know that I could word them better at times). Whatever you come up is ok. Tom Petch More inline. Look for LES2

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis-00

2022-12-08 Thread tom petch
From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: 08 December 2022 15:38 Tom - > -Original Message- > From: tom petch > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 2:52 AM > > From: Lsr on behalf of Christian Hopps > > Sent: 07 December 2022 13:20 > This begins a 2 week WG Last C

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis-00

2022-12-08 Thread tom petch
registry has 28 references to RFC8920; should this be updated? Tom Petch Authors, Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of any IPR related to this work. Thanks, Chris. ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-ogondio-lsr-isis-topology-00.txt

2022-11-09 Thread tom petch
f the 'when' clauses is at odds with the description there of. I suspect that the when clauses are incorrect. Somewhat challenging:-( Tom Petch Best Regards, Oscar -Mensaje original- De: internet-dra...@ietf.org Enviado el: lunes, 24 de octubre de 2022 19:26 Para: Os

Re: [Lsr] ietf-o...@2019-10-17.yang: questions

2022-09-30 Thread tom petch
o late. The I-D, after 1129 days, has completed AUTH48 and its release as an RFC is imminent. Tom Petch 1. /ietf-routing:routing/control-plane-protocols/control-plane-protocol/ietf-ospf:ospf/areas/area/interfaces/interface/interface-id This leaf's type should be u32 and not u16. 2.

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (IS-IS Flood Reflection) to Experimental RFC

2022-09-28 Thread tom petch
reference in the Registration Procedures to common expert review guidance for the grouping since I do not know what is meant by a grouping. Tom Petch Abstract This document describes a backward-compatible, optional IS-IS extension that allows the creation of I

Re: [Lsr] Reorganizing OSPFv3 Extended-LSA Sub-TLVs registry [was: Re: AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-04]

2022-09-12 Thread tom petch
like a good plan, Tom Petch Thanks, —John > On Sep 12, 2022, at 5:33 AM, tom petch wrote: > > From: Lsr on behalf of John Scudder > > Sent: 06 September 2022 22:04 > >> On Sep 6, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: >> >> I guess if we do decide

Re: [Lsr] Reorganizing OSPFv3 Extended-LSA Sub-TLVs registry [was: Re: AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-04]

2022-09-12 Thread tom petch
well as OSPF). No need for ten columns, just a structured approach. It took a lot of detailed review to get it right - Loa knows that well - but I believe that the effort was worth it. Tom Petch —John ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr _

Re: [Lsr] Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs - draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding

2022-06-15 Thread tom petch
From: John Scudder Sent: 14 June 2022 21:49 Cc: John E Drake; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Tony Li; tom petch; Acee Lindem (acee); lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs - draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding I’ll point out that option 2 frees us from having to run an annual

Re: [Lsr] [rt5.ietf.org #7080] System ID in ISIS

2022-06-15 Thread tom petch
regex for system-id which if I reverse engineer it aright allows for all zero along with all [0-9a-fA-F] Tom Petch HTH Les From: Lsr On Behalf Of Jaideep Choudhary Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:00 AM To: Tony Li Cc: supp...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] [rt5.ietf.org #7080]

Re: [Lsr] Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs - draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding

2022-06-13 Thread tom petch
later be demonstrated. Tom Petch Thanks, Acee ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-15 Thread tom petch
is accomplished by assigning, within the node, a distinct "zone index" to each zone of the same scope to which that node is attached, and by allowing all internal uses of an address to be qualified by a zone index. ' All internal uses! that is what an implementer should

Re: [Lsr] IP address zones in YANG

2022-04-14 Thread tom petch
; I am wondering if it requires zones in the YANG. I was unaware of the existence of zones with IPv4 until I came across them in the YANG types but that is my ignorance - they were always there1! Tom Petch The current definition of ipv6-address type and the ip-address nodes in ietf-ip.yang

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-13 Thread tom petch
is a bad one. I would introduce types with zone - that is a no-brainer - but would deprecate the existing types. Tom Petch As mentioned previously, it is also worth comparing this to the OpenConfig YANG modules: They have redefined ip-address (and v4/v6 variants) to exclude zone information

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-11 Thread tom petch
That is the I-D that has just been approved by the IESG! I do wonder about BFD. Single hop IPv6 would seem to be a case for link local even if RFC5881 has a SHOULD NOT for using link local; and IPv6 link local is where the zone may be needed to identify the interface. RFC5881 does not mention

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-09 Thread tom petch
From: tom petch Sent: 08 April 2022 17:32 From: Lsr on behalf of Joel M. Halpern Sent: 07 April 2022 18:51 Given that you are asking for an incompatible change to an existing module, the shoe would seem to be on the other foot. If you could show it was necessary to make such an incompatible

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-08 Thread tom petch
and it may be a case where a zone is required. I would make sense for that protocol, as it would for other 'local' protocols, such as printing, problem determination and so on. Tom Petch Yours, Joel On 4/7/2022 1:22 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 4/7/22, 1:18 PM, "J

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-07 Thread tom petch
, the zone is silently discarded and the address is used without the zone. But, like the assertion that keeping the zone will cause who knows what damage, I have not done the research to substantiate that assumption. Tom Petch I appreciate that this is an NBC change, but I believe

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread tom petch
and I2NSF WG I-Ds, and there are others. Also, some authors want the zone information as part of their leaf. Tom Petch Thanks, Acee On 4/4/22, 7:11 AM, "Lsr on behalf of tom petch" wrote: I assume that this is a refresh while waiting for ospf.yang to wind its way through

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread tom petch
to 'Revised' Tom Petch From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 07 March 2022 03:14 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from

Re: [Lsr] Update to OSPF Terminology (draft-fox-lsr-ospf-terminology)

2022-02-24 Thread tom petch
lace with tabs, at least on every copy I have downloaded from the RFC Editor web site, and several years of trying have never yielded the magic formula as to what the tab settings should be for the document to print in a usable format. I would engage with a 2328bis Tom Petc

Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology in OSPF

2021-11-18 Thread tom petch
. There might have been some progress in the past year but I see no evidence thereof. Equally, my sense was that there was no consensus in support of taking draft-knodel as a way forward, political pressure perhaps, but not IETF consensus. Tom Petch Thank you, Mike

Re: [Lsr] how not to distribute an e-mail Re: "Prefix Unreachable Announcement"

2021-10-15 Thread tom petch
From: Lsr on behalf of tom petch Sent: 14 October 2021 16:42 From: Christian Hopps Sent: 14 October 2021 13:13 Does it junk the mail if the one true and proper form is used: "IS-IS" (i.e., with the hyphen)? :) Yes. That is what the thread about Prefix unreachable that Acee kick

Re: [Lsr] how not to distribute an e-mail Re: "Prefix Unreachable Announcement"

2021-10-14 Thread tom petch
as I have received your e-mail. It even junked an e-mail that I sent to another WG but I cannot see what it saw in that! Tom Petch Thanks, Chris. > On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:15 AM, tom petch wrote: > > Top posting for a different topic > > My ESP, one of the larger ones in the w

[Lsr] how not to distribute an e-mail Re: "Prefix Unreachable Announcement"

2021-10-14 Thread tom petch
nothirng Tom Petch ps perhaps this is the considered opinion of the ESP on the I-D:-) From: Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 12 October 2021 20:05 To: lsr@ietf.org Speaking as WG Chairs: The authors of “Prefix Unreachable Announcement” have

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-10 Thread tom petch
. that key names do not reveal sensitive information about the network. Tom Petch Thanks, Yaron On 8/10/21, 15:01, "Qin Wu" wrote: Yaron: Thank for clarification. I agree to keep the last sentence in the second paragraph of section 7 as is. But I prefer to add th

Re: [Lsr] Split was Re: Draft minutes for BFD @ IETF110

2021-07-27 Thread tom petch
was expecting an action by the AD to be required and have seen no sign thereof which may be relevant. Tom Petch Regards, Reshad. On 2021-03-22, 3:30 PM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Yingzhen Qu" wrote: Hi, I also support the split of ietf-bfd-mpls-te module from the base BFD

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-28 Thread tom petch
Review and deduce that that is how the assignment was made. And even if there is a more recent RFC to be pointed to, I think it clearer to spell out that Expert Review was how the value was assigned and so not to look for further documentation. Tom Petch. Les > -Original Mess

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-24 Thread tom petch
the world has been getting on quite happily without it for 13 years? Is there anything that now needs a value which previously did not? If so, that might be more suitable for an I-D. Tom Petch I thought it polite to mention this before you spend the time and effort to produce a new version

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-23 Thread tom petch
From: Joel M. Halpern Sent: 22 June 2021 09:57 Do Les' suggested edits address your concerns. We will apply yor changes to the IANA considerations section. I would go further than Les as I suggested on Tuesday. Perhaps it is time for a new version to comment on. Tom Petch Yours, Joel On 6

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-22 Thread tom petch
ts language should use RFC8174. With the revised IANA Considerations, there is no need for Security Considerations to make any mention of YANG. Tom Petch Les > -Original Message- > From: Joel Halpern Direct > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 8:47 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ;

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-22 Thread tom petch
Well, what does it do? Gives examples of its use? I see nothing more. Tom Petch We are explicit in this draft that one of the obvious uses for this ifType is to trigger 5309 behavior. Yours, Joel On 6/21/2021 4:41 AM, tom petch wrote: > From: Lsr on behalf of Harold Liu > >

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-21 Thread tom petch
as I said in a separate note is to ask IANA to update two references, nothing more. Tom Petch And I would like to share more background information for this internet draft: As Joel mentioned, we requested and received an IF Type assignment from IANA (with expert review) for point-to-

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-19 Thread tom petch
for interface type ap2pOverLan by Expert review which caused IANA to add the entries to the MIB module and the YANG module but IANA do not need to be told that - they did it! Tom Petch Yours, Joel On 6/18/2021 12:20 PM, tom petch wrote: > From: Joel M. Halpern > Sent: 18 June 2021 16

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-18 Thread tom petch
this I-D ... well I am not clear what it does except lay claim to things that others have already done with RFC5309 and expert review :-) I think too that camel case is problematic. SMI uses it, YANG does not but we are now likely stuck with identity p2pOverLan . Tom Petch Yours, Joel On

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

2021-06-18 Thread tom petch
would go for it. I think too that this I-D should reference and build on RFC5309. At present it looks like an Unused Ref. Tom Petch Thank you, Joel On 6/16/2021 4:41 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Joel, > > At first I wondered where this document should reside and then decided th

Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "Flexible Algorithms: Bandwidth, Delay, Metrics and Constraints" - draft-hegde-lsr-flex-algo-bw-con-02

2021-05-28 Thread tom petch
From: Lsr on behalf of gregory.mir...@ztetx.com Sent: 25 May 2021 22:02 Inline under Tom Petch Hi Tony, thank you for clarifying your view on this. Please find my notes in-line below under the GIM>> tag. Regards, Greg Mirsky Sr. Standardization Expert 预研标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部 St

[Lsr] opsawg-l3sm-l3nm

2021-05-18 Thread tom petch
different to that of ospf-yang with IPsec, key-chain and key-explicit. I would sum up the I-D as 'routing for everyone but different' and wonder what others might think. Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

[Lsr] Split was Re: Draft minutes for BFD @ IETF110

2021-03-22 Thread tom petch
Acee's suggestion that the TE part should be split from the BFD YANG draft so that the other three WG, who have been held up for years, can progress. Tom Petch Copying the LSR WG. Meeting recording is @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqfJJ3gOc0 Regards, Reshad

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-18 Thread tom petch
as it could be. What matters? TLV 144, so that comes first; to me, it is a no-brainer but clearly my brain is different. Tom Petch Tony ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-acee-lsr-isis-yang-augmentation-v1-03

2021-01-22 Thread tom petch
I gave as show-stoppers to adoption. The period for the adoption call has now expired so I was expecting a follow-up from the Chairs. I would leave further changes until the adoption is complete. Tom Petch Thanks, Yingzhen On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Yingzhen Qu mailto:yingzhen

Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-acee-lsr-isis-yang-augmentation-v1-03

2021-01-05 Thread tom petch
From: Christian Hopps Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 16:54 > On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:47 AM, tom petch wrote: > > From: Lsr on behalf of Christian Hopps > > Sent: 05 January 2021 09:19 > > This begins a 2 week WG adoption call for the following draft: > > https://dat

Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-acee-lsr-isis-yang-augmentation-v1-03

2021-01-05 Thread tom petch
, the references do not reflect RFC published last year, YANG import lack references, the key references are listed as Informative. And, contrary to the announcement, the intended status of the I-D is Informational. I am surprised that anyone should consider this to be in a state fit for adoption! Tom

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-02.txt

2021-01-04 Thread tom petch
From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 18 December 2020 18:43 I still have an issue with the prefix in -02 The examples use rm: which I find a bit short. The module should be the same but uses isis-rmetric: which I find a bit long. isis-rm: would suit me Tom Petch A New

Re: [Lsr] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-01

2020-12-10 Thread tom petch
The text in question is specified by YANG Guidelines RFC8407 and appears in (almost) all I-D with a YANG Module. The text is the consensus of the NETMOD WG. The Secure Transport layer is a defined part of the Netconf architecture and can be implemented by at least four p

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "YANG Module for IS-IS Reverse Metric" - draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-01

2020-12-10 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 10 December 2020 00:11 Speaking as WG member: Hi Chris, Tom, On 12/9/20, 6:03 AM, "Lsr on behalf of tom petch" wrote: From: Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 30 November 2020 18:14 Two thoughts isis-rmetric is

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "YANG Module for IS-IS Reverse Metric" - draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-01

2020-12-09 Thread tom petch
? Is there any way to tell if it is present or not? Tom Petch As stated as the IETF 109 LSR WG meeting, we feel the IS-IS reverse metric augmentation is ready for publication. This begins a two week last call for the subject draft. Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to 12:00 AM

[Lsr] IESG approves mpls-base-yang

2020-10-30 Thread tom petch
Who cares? Well it is a MISSREF for bfd-yang which is a MISSREF for ospf-yang inter alia so may be those dusty old I-D will come to life and see if they are still valid or not (some are not:-(. Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-dontula-lsr-yang-dynamic-flooding-03.txt

2020-10-13 Thread tom petch
there is one such for YANG terminology - I wonder if ospf-dynamic-flooding would be a better feature name given there are the two of them side-by-side Tom Petch Tony > On Sep 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > It looks like some unfortunate tab settings at least for th

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 29 September 2020 22:44 Hi Tom, We can add the references. See ACEE>. Yes please - it will make it easier for me to review On 8/13/20, 6:03 AM, "Lsr on behalf of tom petch" wrote: From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 1

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-dontula-lsr-yang-dynamic-flooding-03.txt

2020-09-15 Thread tom petch
The formatting of this I-D seems to have gone wrong making it hard to read and review. The indentation of successive lines of the YANG module is more than it usually is. This was a problem with -01 that was not present in -02 but has now returned in -03 Tom Petch From: I-D-Announce

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-04.txt

2020-08-13 Thread tom petch
point about link type is that you are augmenting ospf-yang which uses an enum so in places users will be required to use an enum and in others a uint8 which could be confusing Tom Petch A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-03.txt

2020-08-12 Thread tom petch
; I think you know this by now but this one would work but is not needed, simple equality test would do. when "derived-from-or-self(../../ospf:header/ospf:type, 'ospfv3-e-as-external-lsa')" again equality is all that seems to be needed when "derived-from-or-self(../../

Re: [Lsr] WGLC request for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2020-08-10 Thread tom petch
module but you include the boilerplate. Tree diagrams no reference means different I-D in different places import lack references security lacks TLS1.3 RFC8242 not in I-D References RFC8174 not in I-D References import OSPF must be Normative Tom Petch This model severs

[Lsr] draft-hopps-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-02

2019-11-23 Thread tom petch
efix "isis"; } lacks a reference clause IS-IS reverse metric functionality [RFC8500]. YANG module must be plain text and this looks like it is not. Tom Petch ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-dontula-lsr-yang-dynamic-flooding-00.txt

2019-09-11 Thread tom petch
Tony I suggest you have a read of RFC8407, not so much s.4, which is rather detailed, but the other sections. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: To: "tom petch" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 3:51 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your comments. We will ad

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dontula-lsr-yang-dynamic-flooding-00.txt

2019-09-06 Thread tom petch
which the I-D becomes; I see no reference to the name at the start of the I-D, namely YANG Data Model for Dynamic Flooding which must appear in the IANA Considerations, which it does not as they are absent. Also, many lines are too long for an RFC which makes the I-D (too) difficult to rea

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (YANG Data Model for OSPF Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2019-08-01 Thread tom petch
description "Opaque type and ID only apply to Opaque LSAs."; The must and the description match but why are they part of container header and not part of the leaves? Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "tom petch" Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 5:3

Re: [Lsr] Last Call: (YANG Data Model for OSPF Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2019-07-05 Thread tom petch
d? This I-D is big - 125pp - and I will not finish reviewing it by July 17th but expect to do so some time later in the month - I will post again when I have. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "The IESG" To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: ; "Stephane Litkowski" ; ; ; Sent

Re: [Lsr] [netmod] A question on the parameter overriding in draft-ietf-isis-yang-isis-cfg

2019-06-11 Thread tom petch
cated YANG to suppress the interface-global value when that at the interface-level is configured, but they don't, they rely on correct implementation! Also, this structure is not, IMHO, readily apparent in the tree diagram unless you know what to look for. Tom Petch - Original Message - Fro

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-isis-yang-isis-cfg-35.txt

2019-06-07 Thread tom petch
Original Message - From: Sent: Friday, June 07, 2019 9:03 AM Hi Tom, Thanks for your feedback. Pls find some comments inline Stephane -Original Message- From: tom petch [mailto:ie...@btconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 18:59 Stephane The YANG module has RFC5307

Re: [Lsr] When to augment LSR base YANG modules...

2019-04-02 Thread tom petch
ule names or module revision dates) floating around or do the tools hide such details and present a coherent picture to an operator? Likewise, does it matter how many features there are, with a Cartesian explosion leading to a five or six digit number of combination

Re: [Lsr] Shepherd review comments on draft-ietf-isis-yang-isis-cfg-29

2019-01-22 Thread tom petch
e XML/HTML anchors and not plain text. Time idnits learnt what a YANG module looks like! Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" To: "Yingzhen Qu" ; ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Lsr] Shepherd review comments on draft-iet

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