Vince Hoang wrote:
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 09:39:56AM -1000, Julian Yap wrote:
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 09:08 -1000, Matt Darnell wrote:
The ISOs for various releases have squeezed out most of
the updates, so Julian is correct, only updates for the
Debian and SuSE repositories are
Jim Thompson wrote:
LUAU is HOSEF. HOSEF is LUAU.
Who said so?
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http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
LUAU is HOSEF. HOSEF is LUAU.
Who said so?
___
Actually I don't have any interest nor the capacity to argue one way or
another. But I want to make it perfectly clear that I do
Jimen Ching wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Julian Yap wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 13:25 -1000, Jimen Ching wrote:
YOU don't NEED to care. A lot of people don't NEED to care. As
long as
there are people who do care and are willing to fight for those rights.
You'll continue to enjoy the
Jim Thompson wrote:
The term Open Source was a marketing campaign, promulgated by Eric
Raymond,
What's wrong with a marketing campaign? The more the merrier.
If I can live comfortably on donations, I wouldn't mind insisting that
every piece of software to free, whatever that means. Wayne
Stan Baptista wrote:
IMHO, more than a slim possiblity. F/OSS _itself_ is not particularly a
factor. Activity that may qualify under Act 221/215 certainly can include
F/OSS. The more important issue is whether the business utilizing these
technologies is considered a QHTB as defined by the
There used to be a Honolulu Jave Users Group but I haven't heard any
activity for a while. Anyone interested in reactivating it? Wayne
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-1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
There used to be a Honolulu Jave Users Group but I haven't heard any
activity for a while. Anyone interested in reactivating it? Wayne
I was talking about the Hawaii/Honolulu Java User Group:
https://hjug.dev.java.net
which is part
Julian Yap wrote:
Hi all,
A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
post my review.
Link:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook
Overall I am more that satisfied with Fedora Core 6 on my notebook.
Previously I ran and used (not
Ron Fox wrote:
I've only had one response to our Call for Panelists, namely from Wayne
(Linux Institute). If anyone else is interested in joining the panel,
please let me know today via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at
589-5172. If my voicemail answers, please leave a message.
Info
Ron Fox wrote:
Tuesday, October 17, 5:45pm - 7:30pm with Pizza and networking to follow.
UH Manoa Marine Science Building Auditorium, Rm 114.
I will try to make it, if I do, I will bring a Solaris 11 (beta)
laptop in case anyone may be interested in seeing how far along the
Solaris desktop
R. Scott Belford wrote:
In the interest in saving future weekends, please know that you can
come by McKinley any Saturday to see an Ubuntu installation.
Thanks, I didn't know that. Wayne
Since I started this thread, I don't want to leave an impression that I
endorse Ubuntu. Actually I don't. Windows killer it is not. Far from
it. For the things I am doing and planning to do, SuSE is still the
best (and the comparison pool includes Windows XP-Pro). As I mentioned
in a
I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and it was the nicest out-of-the-box
install experience I've ever had with Linux - real competition for the
folks at Apple. Thanks for the lovely piece of work! (Roller's date: Jun
02 2006, 04:36:43 PM PDT )
I didn't say that, James Gosling did. Of course no one
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 18:06 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
I've been running Ubuntu inside Parallels on my Intel-powered Mac
Mini for a while now. Seems to hang together nicely.
Ubuntu (or, better, kubuntu) seems like a far better choice for a
desktop than, say Linspire.
Thanks. What I
Ubuntu 6.06 is officially released today. (As I was told, it runs on
Niagara better than Solaris.) I tried its beta some time ago but must
admit that I was not impressed.
Is there anyone locally who has devoted some time in Ubuntu and is
willing to show me why you like it? Thanks a whole
Thanx. Please see my private mail. Wayne
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 12:58 -0700, Julian Yap wrote:
--- Hawaii Linux Institute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ubuntu 6.06 is officially released today. (As I was told, it
runs
Niagara better than Solaris.) I tried its beta some time ago
but must
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 12:58 -0700, Julian Yap wrote:
We are in the process of updating the Ubuntu mirror so check
here for a local mirror or download via BitTorrent:
http://mirrors.hosef.org/ubuntu-cd/releases/6.06/e
Looks like all the major isos are there (including AMD64). Will try to
give it
because I am
a member of the Docs group now. What Distro do you use if I may ask? I
love hearing of others experiences.
Mahalo,
Edward
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 08:15 -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
Edward Haddock wrote:
Aloha,
I was wondering why you are avoiding Fedora? Curiosity mostly
A friend of mine sent me a news clip which says that the Taiwan gov has
mandated a requirement that all government IT purchases now must be
certified for Windows/Linux dual boot. Currently Red Hat, Novell/SuSE,
and two local Linux companies have passed the certification:
Peter Besenbruch wrote:
I was checking the Debian repositories, and MythTV is available on the
Christian Marillat's external repository. You mentioned it was
complex? Here is what you get when you use apt to install it:
There are external YUM/apt/Yast repositories for installing MythTV in
Edward Haddock wrote:
Aloha,
I was wondering why you are avoiding Fedora? Curiosity mostly.
In the most recently issue of Linux Journal, Nicholas Petrely also
mentioned his displeasure with Fedora. My reason is totally different
from his. For me, the main issue is a lack of smooth
I decided to give KnoppMyth a spin last night. This is truly amazing,
the entire process, including registering with zap2it (to build MySQL
database) took less than two hours, and, w/o much effort, I have a TiVo
on steroid running. The only thing I needed to do, was to change
framebuffer
Wayne Maeda wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but what's the difference between KnoppMyth and
MythTV? What would be the reason to choose one over the other?
Thanks,
Wayne
___
KnoppMyth is a Knoppix distro optimized for MythTV. But it is not a
liveCD;
Wayne Maeda wrote:
Thanks, but what's the advantage of one over the other? Or are there any
major differences? Is one easier to install? I was thinking of getting
into MythTV after reading about the LUAU install fest a few months ago.
Wayne
The MythTV install fest organized by Matt was
Nakashima wrote:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/16/78380_HNibmodf2_1.html
Since the DOE relies heavily on Lotus Notes, this might be a very good
thing.
--Peter
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LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list
The librarian at Kaimuki library has gotten back to me indicating that
they will be interested in working with me to facilitate a Linux co-op
library. My proposal was to donate a small fund (around $1K), with the
focus initially on purchasing books and printing hard copy manuals
relating to
Just noticed that RedHat is going to buy JBoss for $420M (?) I am sure
Jimmy the god will be able to provide more info. Wayne
Jim Thompson wrote:
Dude... they're providing their own power.
That will make things even worse.
If you're going to go all MIPS/watt on us, I'm going to start
talking about reconfigurable
computing. ___
Will be more than happy to entertain your
Julian Yap wrote:
I usually get asked questions along the lines of 'What's the Open Source
alternative to WS FTP LE?' It pains me to see people using these kinds
of deprecated shareware products past the 30-day trial period... Like
WinZip.
So I started a page to list the FOSS alternatives to
Jim Thompson wrote:
If memory serves, I'd queried why you deemed it important that the
number of processes on a desktop OS be minimized.
At the outset, you want to minimize the number of processes running on a
desktop machine so it will boot faster. Beginning version 10.0, SuSE
uses parallel
Julian Yap wrote:
Wayne,
Swing by McKinley sometime on Saturday. We can have a chat/run
through of Samba.We can install it on a spare donated machine.
My wife is out of town that may give a window to do just that.
It's all pretty simple if you stick to the GUI utilities with
RedHat
Jim Thompson wrote:
There has been a lot of recent discussion about what to do with PII
machines. Lets build a cluster. (Where can we find the room/power/AC?)
You can do a rough and tumble calculation. To match a lowest-powered (
cheapest) Sempron you can find in the market, you will need
It seems that Sun is beginning a new round of layoffs. This has become
so common, no one cares to talk about it any more (unless someone you
know happens to be affected).
BTW, while Sun's Solaris developers do not seem to care about
user-friendliness, a couple of OpenSolaris LiveCDs have
Vince Hoang wrote:
You can try VMware Server. The product is on my own list of
things to try, so I cannot say for certain that it solve the
problem the way you want.
If the price is not outrageous, I am seriously thinking about putting
together a Pacifica system. Virtualization is moving to
Since someone mentioned VMWare, I was wondering whether anyone has any
info that might lead to a clue on answering the following two questions:
1. I am running WinXP-Pro on SuSE 10.0 with VMWare-Player. Everything
is great (!!!) except that every time I print something from Windows,
the
Julian Yap wrote:
Otherwise you're reliant on VMWare 'tools' and whatever services
they may or may not provide. In which case, check the VMWare
manuals.
- Julian
For desktops, for obvious reasons, you want as few processes as
possible. I was looking for a non-Samba option (see my first
This week's BusinessWeek has a top 20 ranking of the cash position (cash
as % of market cap) for the largest 500 companies in the US. Guess who
ranks No. 1?
NOV€LL
At 58% ($1.69B/$2.92B), Nov€ll's cash position is not only at the top
but is way above everyone else. Wayne
Just saw LNUX (VA Software) went up more than 10% this morning. Can't
imagine a company whose main business is to provide a platform for
developing FOSS software now has a market cap near $300M. Wayne
Jim Thompson wrote:
Since many here fun Fedora, I thought I'd point to this thread where
Eric Raymond (you know who he is) suggests that Fedora needs some help.
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/36702
Its an interesting read, if for no other reason than a community of
Saw a program last night which mentioned that the Chinese gov is
planning to spend $2B USD to develop a software park in Dalian.
Dalian has been known as the software outsourcing capital of China,
especially in providing software and IT services to Japanese companies.
Last year, its software
Jim Thompson wrote:
Interrupt routing isn't that difficult, until you have to deal with
all the legacy IRQ crap from the days of ISA/EISA buses.
then its insane.
So, PowerPC, MIPS, ARM, SPARC and x86 sans support for ISA are all
equivalent in terms of low-weirdness during install of a new
Jim Thompson wrote:
Mighty Blue got knocked down via their Consent Decree,
Consent Decree? What consent decree? (I think you have mixed up the
IBM case with ATT, Jim.) In the antitrust case against IBM, DOJ was
clobbered by David Boies, the lead attorney for IBM--the gov dropped the
case
Today's (03/20/06) Wall Street Journal has an article about preemptive
financing (i.e., investors will shower you with cash before you have a
presentable corporative structure even a workable product). The average
valuation that venture capital groups are willing to give to a
pre-startup has
Jim Thompson wrote:
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
Today's (03/20/06) Wall Street Journal has an article about
preemptive financing (i.e., investors will shower you with cash
before you have a presentable corporative structure or even a workable
product). The average valuation that venture
Jim Thompson wrote:
You know what they say about the after-effects of incorporating
(injesting) beans, Wayne.
The beans is indeed a great tool to do office automation with
OpenOffice.org. The more I look at it, the more I like it. Sooner or
later, the crossplatformed-beans-based OOo is going
Jon Reynolds wrote:
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
The output quality on the 350 is very good for SDTV, but beware: With
the 350 it will be difficult or impossible to get BIOS/bootup messages
and to play back any video not captured by the 350 (or in standard SD
MPEG-2).
This means no HD
Jon Reynolds wrote:
I hope the weather in Hawaii is treating you better than the weather
here in Alaska. :)
Jon
Now I remember who you are (plse excuse me for the age thing).
Regarding my comment:
We need to share our knowledge/experience. This is the only way we can
survive on the
It appears that there's a lot of interest in MythTV, which is spilling
over to Linux.
Does any one have any thoughts/comments re Hauppauge 250 vs 350?
Thanx. Wayne
Jon Reynolds wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
VIA has several processors, including the C3. The current max clock
speed is
Eric Hattemer wrote:
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
It appears that there's a lot of interest in MythTV, which is spilling
over to Linux.
Does any one have any thoughts/comments re Hauppauge 250 vs 350?
Thanx. Wayne
You'd do really well to ask the mythtv-users list from
http
Clifton Royston wrote:
I remember some people on this list were working on setting up some
FOSS demo projects with the Judiciary. This is IMHO even more
worthwhile, because it would be helping kids stay out of detention and
have a chance to get their lives back together.
Let's
My previous message was intended to be a private mail, but for some very
stupid reason, I profusely apologize, it was sent to the LUAU list.
The call for LUAU perusers and/or other volunteers to develop a web
system as part of ACLU's Juvenile Justice Project is a very worthy one.
Very
JFor those who may have an inclination to move to Vista, I strongly
suggest considering SuSE 10.x. I know, I know, this breaches one of the
most sacred Commandments in Linux (Thou Shalt not talk about distros,
in addition to Thou Shalt not talk about KDE/GNOME).
A few months ago, I had a
someone to
pick it up [for free].
The comments are more interesting (to me) then the offer. I'm
surprised they let those stand.
Michael
On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in
Japanese) and asked if anyone
Julian Yap wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 22:19 -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in
Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any experience:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja?entry
Kanotix should be Kanotic Linux.
A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in
Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any experience:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja?entry=free_server_v2_0_honest
Wayne
I can't remember many of the names, but during the early days of LUAU,
its membership comprised quite a few UNIX (Solaris) administrators
from our local military bases who didn't want to see their names
published (thus the name Linux/Unix Anonymous). In 1996, the activity
moved to MIC. At
I have noticed that Alexander Baldwin is betting very big on the
Honolulu-Shanghai trade opportunities in their next round of business
growth plan. Can't blame them, as China's foreign cash reserve is
expected to grow to $1 trillion by the end of this year.
A couple of weeks ago, one of
A few years ago, the ROK gov budgeted over $100M USD to try to boost
their entertainment industry. Now the Korean soup operas are so
proliferating ( so addictively popular) that the Taiwan government a
couple of months ago was considering banning Korean soup operas during
the prime time (and,
For some reason I am unable to receive LUAU mail, but I would suggest
going one step further by forming a local Linux/Unix co-op library. I
am also interested in finding enough people to share the costs of
printing out pdf pages of manuals. Wayne
In the next week or so, we will be installing a Novell SuSE (10.0)
desktop demo at the Hawaii State Bar Association (1132 Bishop, Suite
906). This system will include a slightly customized OpenOffice.org
2.0, and a VMWare player with a WinXP Pro image (along with WordPerfect
and Microsoft
Clifton Royston wrote:
I also hope you bring back John Terpstra's seminar next year, as I'm
still kicking myself for passing it up.
Just my $0.02c.
Am still kicking my own 8th for not attending it. Wayne
Jim Thompson wrote:
Redhat introduces its Desktop product in mid 2004.
http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/04/11/06/1831257.shtml?
tid=111tid=116
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5205117.html
https://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/compare/client/#tableD
Novel (SUSE) has one too.
I
*Ron Fox* rfox at hosef.org
mailto:hosef-managers%40lists.hosef.org?Subject=%5BHOSEF-managers%5D%20Moving%20from%20the%20HCC%20to%20Planet%20PTCIn-Reply-To=43C76AC9.6060200%40hosef.org/on
Thu Jan 12 23:31:56 HST 2006 wrote:
---
/Scott,
As one who attended the entire conference
Julian Yap wrote:
Wayne,
Teaching Python on the other hand gives you shell scripting
skills, web development skills, application development skills,
etc...
Sorry our posts must have crossed each other. Next to StarBasic, Python
is probably the most intuitive language and the easiest to
Tim Newsham wrote:
I always thought that python should be taught to young students
(elementary, high school, first year college or non-cs college
interested in programming). Its fairly clean and easy to learn and
use without having a deep understanding of programming. I showed my
wife, who
StarBasic
Just in case anyone is interested, you can download a copy of the user
manual (in pdf) below:
http://www.eiu.edu/~itshelp/software/staroffice8/StarOffice_Basic_Guide_en-US.PDF
Or if you prefer an on-line tutorial:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-0439
For more advanced
Jim Thompson wrote:
Just some ideas, a bit more bomb throwing @ 4am.
As someone who is looking at his career/life from a rearview mirror, I
probably should keep my mouth shut. But we used to represent an
out-of-state VC, and it was equally frustrating for us to try to find
good candidates
R. Scott Belford wrote:
Thanks for the info and resources, Wayne. This is helpful. I know that in my
Business Undergraduate, the process of building spreadsheets for decision
analysis was very akin to programming. This made quite an impression on me;
I'll work a bit harder to have our
Jim Thompson wrote:
yes, this kind of communication and cultural exchange is vital (and
from what I can tell after 16 months on island, mostly lacking.)
In the 70's, the best place to do technobusiness discussions is one of
the bars just outside of MIT, or one of MIT's libraries (unlike our
A few months ago I participated in a heated discussion about combining
the OpenSolaris kernel with the Debian distribution system (thus, the
name GNU/Solaris). The general understanding was (according to my own
interpretation anyway), this is a great idea and there should be no
compatibility
Matt Darnell wrote:
Aloha,
We have a box with over 500,000 files in a direcotry. If I try 'rm m*' I get
an error, something like 'too many arguments'
I think someone else in this situation had a method of switching to another
shell, bash is default.
All the files start with mgetty. I would
Jim Thompson wrote:
or cut down on the amount of globbing that the shell does in any one
pass.
If all the files end in a number, (and the numbers are well-distributed)
#!/bin/bash
i=0
while [ $i -le 9 ]
do
echo mgetty*$i | xargs rm -f
i=$[$i+1]
done
Didn't realize you already answered the
Jim Thompson wrote:
You're going to be hitting 'y' for a long time. Lets say you can get
10/second, thats 50,000 seconds, or the better part of 12 hours.
I will always use the rm command with ultimate care, especially when
removing a large number of files. Typically I use the mv command (to
Eric Hattemer wrote:
Ok, I wonder if I'm the only one who immediately read this as what I
thought it should have been, then didn't get the criticism. The typo
should have read
for i in m*; do rm $i; done;
-Eric Hattemer
You're exactly right. Wayne
Per Eric's comment, the correct command should be:
for i in m*; do mv $i ~/dump; done
Sorry for the inattention. Wayne
Yes! (IMNSHO)
On the surface, the Oct. 31 news out of Round Rock, Tex., is
bad . . . Look beyond the surface, and the long-term situation
at the world's largest PC maker may be even worse.
Angela Kahealani wrote:
I've used yup, yum and apt-get with Redhat / Fedora Core / Yellow Dog,
apt-get with Debian, and finally emerge with Gentoo...
they're all great tools... but they can only work as well as the
repositories they feed from, and the Fedora Core EXTRAS split into two
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Bully Soares wrote:
Jim,
Mahalo for the info.
I got in touch with Dave Muchow, (Pres/CEO) of SkyBuilt and although
they're not building for private homeowners or individuals (not yet
anyway)
He was very helpful with the info that he's given
Jim Thompson wrote:
snip
Looks like it is definitely going to be a very interesting talk. On the
oil issue, the biggest parameter is actually China. I read somewhere
that China's oil consumption, in both absolute terms (~ 6 million
barrels a day) and rate of increase (~ 10% per year), is
R. Scott Belford wrote:
I don't think that you are making sense. This is the title that Jim
has chosen for his presentation. Are you saying that this is *not*
his title, [let's not get too personal]?
--scott
I don't think Jim would mind a little tease. But thanks for your concern.
Jim's
Angela Kahealani wrote:
so, what's YOUR experience with OS?
Very negative (note the minus one ranking that I gave)--I will try
to discuss that in separate threads. That's why I am asking whether
anyone here has a different experience. I would very much like to hear it.
I compared
Angela Kahealani wrote:
snip
Jim ( I am sure yourself too) has a wide spectrum of knowledge. Any
discussion here can be a potential subject of his not-yet-titled Pizza talk.
As I mentioned, I had very high expectations for Sun and
Solaris_10/OpenSolaris. But after a while Sun really
IMHO, only morons or government agencies will buy new SPARCs.
I was referring to systems with less than 16-node.
R. Scott Belford wrote:
From the original posting in this thread, the title can be found:
Peak Oil, FOSS, Hawaii You
That's exactly what I meant, not-yet-titled. BTW 16-node should be
16-way. Oops.
This is for Jim-
As I posted here a couple of months or so ago, I was soliciting
volunteering comrades to explore Sun's OpenSolaris. I have found out
that, not only here, but everywhere else I asked, no one was
interested. I remember you did predict this outcome. But me stubborn.
So far,
At the beginning of this year (2005), Novell's market penetration in
China was essentially zero. Now it is the No. 1 Linux provider there.
China has a handful of Linux-based companies, such as Turbo Linux, Red
Flag, Asiaux, etc. All of them are very small (less than 200
employees). Most of
Mid of the night and finally got a chance to browse the web. Suddenly,
a news alert: Red Hat shares up 25% (thus pushing its market cap to
~$3.5B, I believe).
I am sure everyone remembers this: Not too long ago, Red Hat was facing
the reality of the Internet/Linux bubble and decided to
Saw this today (sorry in Chinese):
http://taiwan.cnet.com/computer/mobile/reviews/0,268543,20101615,00.htm
Looks, feels, and plays awfully nice. Will try to get one when I get
back (due to warranty concerns). Wonder whether I can use it as a
FreeNX client (via a USB-ethernet bridge)?
Jim Thompson wrote:
C) Build a MythTV box. Record what you want, when you want, compress
at will.
Actually MythTV may be the best option, all things considered. (When
are you going to give your MTV demo?) Wayne
Tim Newsham wrote:
Interesting product. Unfortunately my wee little uplink from verizon
just wouldn't cut it.
This is something I am very much interested in finding out. 768kbs may
not be as bad as we think (depends on the compression I suppose). There
is another option called ORB, which
Jim Thompson wrote:
DTV (like HDTV without the H) has to be supported by any new TeeVee
13 and all other receivers (such as VCRs, DV
Ds, etc.) by 2007.
HDTV (by which I mean at least 720p) is a different animal, of
course. The first two solutions below will decode 480p, but
getting a
This past weekend I spent some time playing with VMWare 5 (an evaluation
copy) on FC4. Everything (AFAIK) worked out of the box-except bridged
networking. But it didn't take long the get this nuisance fixed. On a
plain vanilla machine (Athlon64 2800+ w/ 1GB DDR), I really couldn't
notice
Brian Chee wrote:
The PODS project . . . now going to a Mini-ITX motherboard to create embedded
systems with no moving parts.
Interesting info. The mini-itx always fascinates me.
Recently, VIA has begun selling its C7- and C7-M series CPUs, each of which
comprises an x86 processor and an
Korea Post to Adopt Linux
Korea Post, Korea's postal service agency, Wednesday announced it will
begin adopting the free, open-source operating system known as Linux to
its desktop computers nationwide on Thursday, replacing the Windows
operating system produced by U.S. software giant
Oops, I inadvertently hit the submit key before I finished typing. It
appears that the Korea Postal Service Agency will be using the so-called
Buyeo Linux developed by KIPA (Korea IT Industry Promotion Agency). I
probably posted this before. Last year, KIPA announced that it has
budgeted
R. Scott Belford wrote:
I am uploading photos from Linuxworld to the HOSEF site. Highlights
include photos of various Chinese Linux Desktops as well as pictures
of the esteemed Warren Togami doing a presentation at the Red Hat booth.
Enjoy
http://www.hosef.org/gallery/lwsf05
--scott
Jim Thompson wrote:
Don't know Japanese? McKinley has an English-centric Japanese language
program. After 30 dollars and 30 hours, you may become itchy to try to
sell Fedora machines in Japan.)
This sounds cool. Where do I find out more?
jim
Oops, I was hoping no one would notice this
There is an even more ambitious project which just saw its curtain
lifted today:
http://opendesktop.org.tw/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3 (in
traditional Chinese)
This project is being co-led by Mr. Firefly who single-handedly
created the more than one hundred thousand or so of the glyphs of
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