Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxPanel's Menu conflics with keyboard shortcuts....

2012-01-17 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 17.01.2012 13:08, schrieb Axel FILMORE:
 Hi there,
 
 I've found something weird with LxPanel's Main Menu.
 
 When the menu is added to the panel, hitting the super key just shows
 the main menu, but other Super key shortcuts doesn't work.
 
 When the menu is not added to the panel, Super+D minimises or maximises
 windows, Super+E runs PCManFm, which is very handy for people comming
 from other OS's if you see what I mean. :-D
 
 I don't know really how the Super key is handled in the Main Menu, if
 it's hard coded or not, but that's an issue IMHO.
 
 Regards. :)
 

There is CTRL+ALT+D to start the filemanager and CTRL+ALT+T to start a
terminal.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas

2011-12-24 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 24.12.2011 10:34, schrieb Stephen Smally:
 Merry Christmas Everyone! thanks for your awesome work!

Merry Christmas also from me to everyone ;)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 28.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Chris:
 Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform?

Thats exactly what it does


 2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com
 
 I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
 I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:

 keybind key=XF86PowerOff
 action name=Execute
 commandlubuntu-logout/command
 /action
 /keybind


 Gabriel Salles



 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 Some  users requested here:

 http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/

 the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
 removed? Does it have heavy dependencies?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Killing glade and gconf -- are there general guidelines or a blueprint?

2011-11-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 26.11.2011 11:18, schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 Le 11/26/2011 10:36 AM, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
 On 11/26/2011 01:07 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:

 No, the priority is the glade migration because only Lubuntu specific
 packages are involved.

 OK, that helps.  Is there documentation out there somewhere about what
 to replace glade with?  Examples, tutorials, whatever?  Is using glade
 3.10.x (and so GTK3) sufficient?  Or are we really killing glade?
 No, just using GtkBuilder instead of glade should be fine :
 http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/gtk-migrating-GtkBuilder.html
 
To bring some clearness in here. Glade as the tool to build UIs from
version 2.0 has the capability to use gtkbuilder to build its ui forms.
Also the ubuntu programming infrastructure quickly uses glade (again the
tool)  with its default gtkbuilder capabilities.
So as far as I see it we don't have any big problem or are they UIs that
use the glade library instead the gtkbuilder library in Lubuntu ? (Again
glade library does not mean that they were created with glade)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] web mockup #1

2011-11-25 Thread Leszek Lesner
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
 Here it os, the first mockup, using the Ubuntu drupal theme, but blue
 tuned. Of course, texts, images and links are fake. Just for imagining
 how it would look. I'll make another one without any Canonical influence,
 some kind KDE did, and more user friendly, direct to people, and less
 serious.
 
 http://i.imgur.com/6mfma.png
 
 But the goals of these webs (now mockups) will be:
 
       - very visible download button
       - easy navigation menu
       - front exposure of the product (a PC with Lubuntu installed and
 working)     - a few sub-articles (in this case product features)
       - the #2 article should be the last blog post
       - the #3 article should be the last forum post (and no more than 3)
       What do you think? ...working on the #2!

Very nice mockup. You are the best :)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] What happened to Lubuntu Control Center??

2011-11-24 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 24.11.2011 17:04, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
 Hi everybody

 I just tryed to install the Lubuntu Control Center and I realized that it
 is not at the 11.10 repositories... Is this project dead or what?
The project is not dead. But as it was decided not to include it with
Lubuntu, as pcmanfm has a settings menu which can show all settings I
guess it is no longer maintained (I think Julien was the maintainer for
it).
The development is stalled right now as I have a lot of other things to
do right now (until the end of winter).
Planned is a configuration file in which you can set icons and execute
commandlines. But all in all the application is more or less feature
complete. If you have any interesting idea on what to improve please
notice there is still the development page
https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-control-center where you add feature
requests.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 09.11.2011 10:55, schrieb Chris:
 Bonjour Jean-Pierre,

 I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the
 machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3  4 and 256
 to 512 ram.
 It's like Ali said, it's just a script which does some automated actions,
 like see what the CPU usage and MEM consumption. The idea for now is just
 shutting down all current processes of chromium-browser/firefox (or just
 checking if it's already running or completely shutting down) and starting
 a default set of tabs. That way the results should be comparable and
 doable for every machine.

 With metta, Chris


Its somehow funny to see everyone trying to look into the memory
consumption of firefox vs. chromium. But I just want keep in mind that
those aren't the only criteria for firefox vs. chromium.
Don't forget to compare them feature wise.
In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just look
at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)
or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a different
process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
other tabs. Also the startup time of chromium is still far better than
the one of firefox. Chromium also offers some little nice features like
a incognito mode that can be used alongside with the normal browsing
mode (which firefox does not have, as it closes the 'normal' browser and
opens with a incognito profile)
The memory consumption is nearly the same. Chromium seems to have a
lower memory consumption when it comes to a few open tabs. If you have
more than 5 tabs open firefox might be lower on memory consumption but
this is only my impression so far(I did not do any tests on it). If you
want to dig deep into the materia I guess reading out /proc processes is
the right way to go, or you could use the kde systemmonitor (sysguard)
which offers the most accurate memory consumption details of all the
systemmonitors so far (even giving you a list of /proc processes it
analyzed) 

All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers the
better features.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
 Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather This
 is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.
Isn't that the same ?
I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
I guess that is a low machine.
If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep such
 personal opinions out of this discussion.

If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
arguments.
And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.


 Google is dropping H264 support:
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

Google Chrome != Chromium

 Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
 sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
 available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
 it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
tab cannot crash the whole browser.

 While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
 web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
 than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
 source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
 nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
 continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
 different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
 the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
 supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
 maintain Chromium).

I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
existens.
And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
software products.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support

2011-11-05 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 05.11.2011 14:02, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
 I just saw the forum and I believe that there should be an option to change
 the global keymap... Or at least the login manager keymap
Yeah I guess you are right.
But notice that this requires root rights.
Also if someone knows how to change the keymap for tty and Xorg (I guess
the keymap is set in /etc/default/keyboard) directly without
reconfiguring console-setup then please mail me.


 Att,

 Gabriel Salles


 2011/11/5 Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com

 Hello Leszek,

 Kindly have a look at this:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874069

 Thanks!

 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Hi,

 as I got a lot of requests to implement an autostart feature for
 lxkeymap I did it.
 LXKeymap 0.5 is now capable to store its keymap configuration into a
 file that it reads out during autostart.
 Therefore I wrote a little *.desktop file that I put in the global
 /etc/xdg/autostart which contains the new command lxkeymap -a to
 trigger the autostart function of lxkeymap. The Keymap configuration
 will be stored locally in your home directory ( ~/.config/lxkeymap.cfg)
 and is easily editable either by using lxkeymap and set a new keymap or
 by editing it by hand.
 You can get this version from here:

 http://content.wuala.com/contents/leszek/Dokumente/Share/lxkeymap_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb?dl=1

 If you notice any bugs then report them here:
 http://launchpad.net/lxkeymap

 Also I guess there is a bug in lxdm, because changing the keyboard
 layout in the session and logging out to lxdm does not restore the
 global keymap but uses the one choosen in the session.
 This could be also fixed by simply calling lxkeymap -a from within
 lxdm but as lxkeymap uses only a local configuration it would then
 create and use the root accounts .config/lxkeymap.cfg file. So you need
 to create this first by executing lxkeymap as root if you want to have a
 different keymap globally+lxdm and your user accounts.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support

2011-11-05 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 05.11.2011 17:40, schrieb Todd Schulman:
 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 Am 05.11.2011 14:02, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
 I just saw the forum and I believe that there should be an option to
 change
 the global keymap... Or at least the login manager keymap
 Yeah I guess you are right.
 But notice that this requires root rights.
 Also if someone knows how to change the keymap for tty and Xorg (I guess
 the keymap is set in /etc/default/keyboard) directly without
 reconfiguring console-setup then please mail me.

 Won't setxkbmap do it?
Setxkbmap would only change the Xorg keymap in a local session. So not
globally. And it needs a Xserver running

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[Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support

2011-11-02 Thread Leszek Lesner
Hi,

as I got a lot of requests to implement an autostart feature for
lxkeymap I did it.
LXKeymap 0.5 is now capable to store its keymap configuration into a
file that it reads out during autostart.
Therefore I wrote a little *.desktop file that I put in the global
/etc/xdg/autostart which contains the new command lxkeymap -a to
trigger the autostart function of lxkeymap. The Keymap configuration
will be stored locally in your home directory ( ~/.config/lxkeymap.cfg)
and is easily editable either by using lxkeymap and set a new keymap or
by editing it by hand.
You can get this version from here:
http://content.wuala.com/contents/leszek/Dokumente/Share/lxkeymap_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb?dl=1

If you notice any bugs then report them here: http://launchpad.net/lxkeymap

Also I guess there is a bug in lxdm, because changing the keyboard
layout in the session and logging out to lxdm does not restore the
global keymap but uses the one choosen in the session.
This could be also fixed by simply calling lxkeymap -a from within
lxdm but as lxkeymap uses only a local configuration it would then
create and use the root accounts .config/lxkeymap.cfg file. So you need
to create this first by executing lxkeymap as root if you want to have a
different keymap globally+lxdm and your user accounts.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 21.10.2011 11:38, schrieb Ali Linx:
 If you are talking about the Wiki Pages, I don't mind to update that myself
 if you are busy.
Yes I am only talking about the screencast. I am not responsible for the
website ;)

 If you are talking about the website (lubuntu.net), then any idea when that
 will be? just an approximate date will be great.

 Thank you so much!

 P.S.
 Lubuntu Screencasts on my signature now (Ubuntu Forum).
 http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:07 PM, leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 Patients. I am working on it.
 I am pretty occupied by other stuff right now.



 -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer

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 Am 21.10.2011 09:06 schrieb Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts
 *This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use
 one of the page templates.*

 This is what I get when I try to open any Screencast from the above link.

 Where are ALL the old Screencasts now? users are asking about that all the
 time.

 Also, what happened to the website? when exactly it will be up and running?


 Thank you!



 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.comwrote:

 Hi Leszek,

 would you be so kind as to update
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts

 Thanks,

 Phill.


 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Am 17.10.2011 23:37, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
 There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..

 Gabriel Salles


 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
 There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
 to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
 place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
 links or whatever)?

 Thank you!
 Best regs,
 Ivan aka vanyok
 For the Screencasts note that they are still available. See :
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11356081postcount=5


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 17.10.2011 23:37, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
 There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..
 
 Gabriel Salles
 
 
 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com
 
 Hello everybody,

 Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
 There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
 to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
 place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
 links or whatever)?

 Thank you!
 Best regs,
 Ivan aka vanyok

For the Screencasts note that they are still available. See :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11356081postcount=5


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 17.10.2011 18:52, schrieb Glenn de Groot:
 Hello everyone,
 today I came up with something.I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software 
 Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and 
 developers will join.Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something 
 Lubuntu branded, which is a shame.We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox 
 joining if we come up with a catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser 
 for a reason, I guess. :P
 Thoughts? :P
 -Glenn de Groot   
This would assume that LSC would run on other LXDE Distributions aswell,
which it does not. (especially those who don't use debian packagemanagement)
I have nothing against making LSC 'portable' by using packagekit instead
of aptdaemon (or what it uses now). But this is a long work in progress.
And for this, we should at first ask the other LXDE Distros if they want
to work on it and actually use it when its ready. (It does not make
sense to do this step if no one is interested in it)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 17.10.2011 19:55, schrieb Ali Linx:
 IMHO, what could be much better is having our own applications. I mean, LXDE
 Applications. Instead of using GNOME or XFCE Power Management, we develop
 our own application. Instead of using GNOME-Player, we create our own, etc.

I think this is stupid to develop a new app only because the app
contains the name gnome. If the app works as expected why developing a
replacment ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10

2011-10-15 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 15.10.2011 12:40, schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 Le 10/14/2011 08:00 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :
 Sorry, sudo start lxdm says lxdm/running, process 3228
 Here's a brief of what startx sends:
 (EE) failed to load module fglrx (module does not exist, 0)
 (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported
 (EE) Radeon(0): Chipset: SUMO (ChipID=0x9641) requires KMS
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 Fatal server error: no screens found. 
 Could you try to boot again the Live-CD, press F6 on the splash screen,
 check nomodeset, and boot ?

Isn't it strange that it is trying to load the proprietary fglrx driver
from LiveCD ?
Or is it a installed system and a fucked up driver installation ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Leszek Lesner
lt;ohiom...@gmail.comgt;


I agree.nbsp; A link to sound preferences makes sense.nbsp; 
The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps 
users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :)



Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in particular 
this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of making it more 
friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus :)

And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best candidate 
(as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound applet could be 
connected to it somehow... but that's another story.


--jpxsat

I think an easy shell script writing the don't show menubar in the config for 
executing alsamixer should do the trick. Another way would be executing 
alsamixer in xterm instead of lxterminal

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10

2011-08-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
 2011/8/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com:
  Hi people.
  Has any one tried an old ubuntu lately? lets say for example 8.10? Its
  damn fast!
 
  I'm just saying: this old OS works very fast, and I really don't know
  why... but maybe the Lubuntu devs could have an explanation for it and
  maybe improve Lubuntu this way.
  
 
 Agree, bloatkernel, bloatdrivers, bloatwares... this is what is
 supposed to make linux more 'user-friendly', although being OS user I
 don't find it quite friendly. On the other hand 8.10 won't fire up on
 my laptop because of missing support for switchable graphics %)
 Just thinking aloud - would it be wise to create an override apt
 profile for lubuntu which will suppress all the 'recommended' and
 'suggested' dependencies by default? After restricting
 /gnome|kde|qt[2-4]/ in apt it is annoying to retype each time
 '--no-install-recommends' after install aborts bcz of missing
 dependencies.
 

RTFM.  There is an apt/preferences flag for that. 
Also this whole conversation is non sense. If you test out ubuntu 5.04 or even 
Debian 2.0 it would be lightning fast even with KDE. 
But remember back then linux supported lesser hardware and was not intended to 
run on hardware that we normally have today (Dual/Quad-Cores). Also remember 
old Operating Systems might run fast but don't support modern technologies or 
hardware. Try to stick an USB Thumbdrive in a DOS machine.
Lubuntu takes a very far approach in supporting good old hardware which is 
about 15 years old whithout loosing modern technologies (3G, Wifi, Bluetooth, 
Powermanagement)
The the ones speaking of 
bloatkernel, bloatdrivers
Have you ever looked at the Kernelcode or done tests on the Kernel ?
Lets take for example audio latency. For years you had to patch the kernel for 
realtime audio with jack and ardour.
Nowadays it isn't necessary for the amateur audio editor as the kernel even 
without the realtime patches is nearly as fast as with them.

The Kernel has become bigger but performance wise it is nearly as fast as it 
was before if not even a little faster.
All in all stop those non sense posting comparing an ancient Linux Distribution 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Mouse and Keyboard control problem

2011-07-19 Thread Leszek Lesner
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 Hi,
 
 Using Lubuntu 11.04 the scrolling when using my Synaptics keypad scroll
 area on my laptop is too fast and jerky. I went into preferences 
 keyboard and mouse. 
 
 I can not modify acceleration nor sensitivity. I move the slider and
 when I go to click OK the window closes by itself suddenly before I can
 hit OK, and any changes do not stick. I don't know if this is a bug or a
 peculiarity with my laptop. In any event I'm sure there's a config file
 somewhere where I can manually make these changes. Where would such a
 file be located? Also is there a way I could activate changes without
 having to reboot?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs

2011-06-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
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 2011/6/18 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de
 
  Am 18.06.2011 11:16, schrieb Filip Dominec:
   Hi, I am missing several important programs for user settings (e. g.
   keyboard shortcuts, startup applications, keyboard layouts switching
   or sound channels volumes). In the ideal case these programs could be
   similar to that in Gnome 2, maybe we could just copy some. Is there
   any work in progress on this?
   Filip Dominec
   
   
  For keyboard shortcuts I normally edit the openbox configuration file,
  but you are right a graphical tool would be helpful here.
  For startup applications you can go to the menu - preferences -
  desktop session settings.
  Keyboard layout switching can be done with lxkeymap.
  Sound volume can be changed with the tray icon in the panel.
  Those applications are already included.
  
  A soundmixer gui like alsamixergui or a gnome-alsamixer would be nice
  to integrate. (despite the name gnome-alsamixer has not lot of
  dependencies)
 
 
 When could something be done about multimedia keys??
 
 
 -- 
 jpxsat

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch 08 Juni 2011, 15:23:56 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna):
 It's slow for me too. Even in Gnome, when using two or three plugins
 it's annoying. Another option could be Scribes. It's a bit strange, but
 it has syntax highlighting and doesn't have too much dependencies. But I
 don't know if its development status.


I have good experience with geany. Its has good syntax hightlighting and many 
options more, like integrated terminal support and showing functions, 
procedures and classes in a source tree.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-06 Thread Leszek Lesner
 Le Sunday 05 June 2011 à 13:14 -0700, Lance a écrit :
  Regarding the lacking restart or shutdown buttons I posted a
  screenshot here:
  
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 
 
 I think it's because you use startx. LXDM do some black magic to enable
 features that startx probably doesn't (consolkit here). I suspect it's
 because you don't have some commands.

Thats right without a login manager running shutdown won't work the usual way. 
I think the bug report should concentrate why it did boot only in a tty and not 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UDS sessions for Lubuntu (today !)

2011-05-10 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Dienstag 10 Mai 2011, um 10:27:03 schrieb Yorvyk:
 On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:32:08 +0200
 
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:59:01 +0200
  
  Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   I already submitted 2 sessions :
   
   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-integrate-ubuntu-
   ecosystem The goal is to finish the Lubuntu integration in Ubuntu
   ecosystem by using all tools available, such as the build image system
   :)
   
   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-clean-lubuntu
   Discuss all the possibilities to optimize / speed up Lubuntu.
   
   Be sure to subscribe the blueprints if you want to be informed about
   the progress of them.
  
  Just a reminder, the 2 sessions will be today on 15:00 and 17:00 Budapest
  Time : http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/ You can find details
  about remote participation on http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
  Details about the sessions are on the 2 blueprints (see above), and the
  2 linked specifications.
 
 Sadly I'll be busy this afternoon so can't join in :/

me too xD
And especially the optimize / speed up Lubuntu part is interesting to me. 
Hmm... perhaps I will join from within the lecture in my university if it's 
boring ;)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements question, 5.4 gb of free space needed?

2011-05-01 Thread Leszek Lesner
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 This is my first time installing LUbuntu 11.04 and I am trying it on
 an eeePC with a 4 gb SSD.   The installer says I need 5.4 gb free space
 to install.
 
 I thought LUbuntu was light weight, so I'm curious if that system
 requirement is correct or not.
 
This seems to be a bug (or mistake) as even technically you can not compress 
5.4 GB under 700 MB (for the ISO). 
My Installation eats up about 1.6 GB. So 2.2 GB should be the minimum 
requirement in my opinion 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 released

2011-04-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Donnerstag 28 April 2011, um 23:23:47 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna):
 Fully agree, Yorvik. It's a pleasure working with you all and having
 this result: a great world wide known distro.
 
 Looking forward to 11.10!

Congrats on the release :)
The best Lubuntu version ever.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

2011-04-20 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch 20 April 2011, um 13:33:06 schrieb Chris Druif:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I know it's too late for new features for natty, so my request is for
 oneiric. Currently the Quick search feature is disabled by default
 with a fresh install, however to make it functional only one of it's
 recommended packages needs to be installed as well. This package is
 apt-xapian-index (technical information below) which in my opinion is
 a small package to add a greatly appreciative feature of synaptic.
 
 Additional information about it can be found with apt-cache show apt-
 xapian-index in terminal. Only the python-xapian dependency wasn't
 installed, who's information I'll also send with this mail.
 
 So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
 for considering it.
 
 With metta,
 
 Chris Druif
 Technical information:
 ...

I think it does also need to run to create the index before you can use it. I 
don't if its done only by installing the missing package.  I know in KDE world 
muon packagemanager does update the xapian index when installing (in the 
postinst script). Synaptic does not do this so it needs to be run manually 
which might be a little bit complicated when using an automatic build 
procedure.

But in general +1 for this.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?

2011-03-30 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch 30 März 2011, um 14:23:52 schrieb PCMan:
 Text based installer + 1.
 The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can
 have l10n user interface.
 Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's
 still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should
 we insist that there should be a graphical one?
 Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS,
 you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available
 after the basic system is set up.
 
 Actually, we can do the same.
 The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core
 components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super
 user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and
 continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier.
 
 The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good
 GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode,
 too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite
 simple.
 
 Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that
 will almost always choose automatic partitioning. Others who like to
 use customized and manual partitioning are definitely advanced
 power users who don't need a GUI installer.
 So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need.
 
 Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian
 installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the
 text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer
 after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does.
 
 Comments?

It needs to be a base system + X11 Otherwise it won't work. 
The other problem is the enormous effort and work we need to put in such a 
project. (e.g. I can promise you lots and lots of bugs, and yes I created an 
installer for ZevenOS-Neptune on my own, so I have a little experience in 
this) 

My suggestions just promote the alternate install cd for everyone who can't 
use the graphical (live) installer. Maybe we can one day also use the debian-
live-installer (which is basically the textinstaller from debian but able to 
run and install from a live system) as an alternative to ubiquity. 
The problem I see from switching from ubiquity to X would be that lubuntu will 
never become an official flavor of ubuntu. (even kubuntu uses ubiquity under 
the 
hood and only created a kde'ish interface for it)

 
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
 
 jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
   Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory
   footprint of the installer for 11.04.
  
  The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a
  graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu?
  
  Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list What do you
  expect from Lubuntu and i think that a very important point is it will
  go where Ubuntu can't or something like that.
  A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory)
  so if it's a little ugly (text) IMHO i don't see the problem.
  --
  jpxsat
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] disk space need

2011-03-13 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 13 März 2011, um 14:44:45 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna):
 As said on the blog:
 
 
 I can't upgrade my netbook Positivo MOBO (hard drive 2gb only)
 with lubuntu 10.04 because new versions need more a lot of space
 (1,5gb  3,2gb). Why?
 
 
 Does Natty need more space than Maverick?

Newer versions tend to have more features which will cost a little bit more 
harddrive space. A upgrade from an already running machine should be possibile 
if you update only the installed components and not metapackages like lubuntu-
desktop for example (which will pull all its depencies) 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC

2011-03-12 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Samstag 12 März 2011, um 18:31:14 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna):
 And no, you're right, this is NOT a democracy. I mean, the audio player
 has its own discussion (where everybody in this list voted their
 suggestion). But there's one thing we cannot forget, the technical
 details about RAM consumption, the space needed in the ISO, the license
 of the included product in a third party release, the update schedule
 and availability of packages, etc.
 
 Believe when I tell that the coordinator of this project, Julien, is
 doing the best for keeping Lubuntu as efficient and attractive as
 possible. And I think we could demonstrate some empathy and trust for
 him.
Not only for him, but also respect the decision already done by the community 
(the audio player was voted if I am not wrong)  

Also bear in mind, changing the audio player or default applications is 
nothing that should change every release. Especially as upgrades from older 
releases tend to keep their versions of audio player. 
AudioPlayers and Webbrowsers are the two most discussed topics here in the 
mailinglist when it comes to default applications, but that is normal for a 
distribution that young. The most important is that those discussions don't 
interfere the development of the overall distribution and that is something 
Julien just like we all here in the community have to look at and should take 
responsibility for. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap

2011-02-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk:
 Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon
 on there, where something more important should be.

Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. ( 
/usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png ) 
I think Julien you missed it from the deb package. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap

2011-02-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 15:56:37 schrieb Leszek Lesner:
 Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk:
  Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic
  icon on there, where something more important should be.
 
 Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. (
 /usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png )
 I think Julien you missed it from the deb package.
 
I meant LXKeymap Banner of course ;) 
Btw. I used the old banner background from 10.10. (the same background thats 
used in the logout logo). 
We should change that to the new theme if the theme final

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap

2011-02-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 16:01:13 schrieb Leszek Lesner:
 Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 15:56:37 schrieb Leszek Lesner:
  Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 13:27:20 schrieb Yorvyk:
   Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic
   icon on there, where something more important should be.
  
  Yes the LXDE Banner seems to be missing here. (
  /usr/share/lxkeymap/media/banner.png )
  I think Julien you missed it from the deb package.

Sorry again. I doublechecked launchpad and bazaar. It seems I missed to commit 
the banner.png  banner.xcf source file. I uploaded them a few seconds ago. 
So basically my mistake :P

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )

2011-02-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 28 Februar 2011, um 21:34:16 schrieb Jonathan Marsden:
 ...
 
 I take it the maximum ISO image size we are aiming for is 700MB, i.e.
 700 * 1024 * 1024 = 734003200 bytes?
 
 If so, then the current Lubuntu default package set for Natty is a LOT
 oversize (132.2MBytes oversize!), if we use all the GNOME language
 packs.  Does this mean Lubuntu needs to go on a crash diet and lose a
 bunch of packages??


Hmm... Lubuntu Natty will use 2.6.38 as kernel I think. This kernel introduces 
support for xz compressed (based upon lzma algorithm) squashfs images. So if 
we will use this compression for creating the filesystem.squashfs we could fit 
and even get way under the 700 MB barrier.  


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Disk utility (palimpsest) bug

2011-02-17 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Donnerstag 17 Februar 2011, um 09:46:41 schrieb Naveen Agrawal:
 Loong Jin
 
 Please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/palimpsest.
 
 
 The link provided  by you is incorrect. Please check it.
 
 Regards
 Naveen

I think this should be the correct link: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/

Or simply search on bugs.launchpad.net 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from Preferences to System Tools

2011-02-07 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 07 Februar 2011, um 04:51:19 schrieb Jonathan Marsden:
 On 02/06/2011 06:29 PM, Kristian wrote:
  Just put Lubuntu on a few machines. I can't see why the following
  apps get listed as under Preferences in the menu - I think they
  are definately System Tools and should be grouped as such. ...
 
 I agree.  Since these packages are not (as far as I know)
 Lubuntu-specific, I think we need to find out why the Lubuntu/LXDE menu
 system is placing them in Preferences when the GNOME menus put them
 under System -- for the exact same .desktop files.
 
 Does anyone know, or have a pointer to roughly where in the LXDE sources
 this decision (which menu to put apps into) is being done?  That would
 save me/us from wading through the code to try and find it.
 
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I think you are wong. If you take a look at the *.desktop file from synaptic 
you will notice that in the categories line there is more than one category 
given. If you compare TaskManager which can be found under the system menu and 
synaptic you will see that they bove are in the system category but that 
synaptic is also in the settings category. I think that the settings category 
has a higher priority and thats the case why synaptic is put in the 
preferences menu. And btw. its the same in ubuntu. (GNOME)
So I don't think we can fix that here. Maybe we could propose a lxde patched 
*.desktop file (just like the synaptic-kde.desktop file) but that wouldn't be a 
elegant solution. Everything else (i.e. messing with the menu generation code) 
might brake the freedesktop.org compatibility. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising

2011-01-19 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch 19 Januar 2011, um 00:10:20 schrieb Jared Norris:
 Good morning all,
 
 I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm
 looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos
 together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be
 good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen
 casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if
 I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising
 material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this
 Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jared Norris
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
 
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I can create a short demo video I guess. 
Ideas would be appreciated. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] screenshooter

2011-01-04 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Dienstag 04 Januar 2011, um 18:33:22 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani:
 Well... There's Shutter http://shutter-project.org (formerly GScrot) but
 I think its way to heavy...
 
 This is a really advanced tool.
 Yaron Shahrabani
 
 Hebrew translator
 
 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Duy Hung Tran 
nguyentieu...@gmail.comwrote:
  On 01/04/2011 11:11 PM, Marcelo Zacarias da Silva wrote:
  Hello all
  
  Any recomendation for a simple program to take screenshots to
  use with Lubuntu? Would be possible to launch it with the PrtScrn key?
  
  Thanx
  
  Hi,
  
  You can use PrtSc key to take screenshots, after pressing PrtSc key, you
  will see your screenshots in your home directory, their names look like
  2011-01-01-205055_1360x768_scrot.png.
  
  You can also use mtpaint: Layers menu - New layer - choose Grab
  Screenshot - click Create button.
  
  I hope these informations could help you.
  
  Regards,
  

scrot is already installed and creates screenshots when pressing the printscrn 
key. If it isn't you can start it from the terminal by entering scrot. 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A replacement

2011-01-03 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 03 Januar 2011, um 22:59:30 schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 Hi Phill,
 
 Le lundi 03 janvier 2011 à 05:53 +, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
  I have a potential padawan to replace the one that vanished who would
  like to learn about iso building / backporting etc. In return he will
  assist the lubuntu team, it is still early days but he is favourable
  towards lubuntu as his posting at
  http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/lubuntu-1004-distro-review.html
  shows. Whilst he is after his own flavour of ubuntu I think he would
  worth while taking on. I'd like to permanently kidnap him, but he really
  wants to learn about making a distro and has done a decent job of the
  one he has. The reason he contacted me was for for how to do a minimal
  install iso, I then proceeded to kidnap him well you need some one
  else who can take some of the work load off of you. He has assured me
  that he will not desert Lubuntu, in fact, I think it may be possible to
  convince him to drop his project and become fully committed to lubuntu.
 
 Well, I don't have really the time to teach people on how to build iso.
 I think also that people that will learn this knowledge will want to
 create their own distro, sooner or later. You probably noticed than we
 run out of devs recently on LXDE side, so devs time is precious :) I
 would like to teach backporting, which could be useful for everyone. But
 I still can't find the time to organise it, so iso bulding is currently
 out of the scope.

And of course there are lots of tutorials which show you how to build a live 
cd iso or even a minimal install cd. 
Backporting is another thing. This needs basically packaging skills first, and 
again there are lots of tutorials out there. 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunu Screencasts

2011-01-02 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 02 Januar 2011, um 00:41:22 schrieb Yorvyk:
 Interesting idea raised by now3d in IRC
 
 Hi there.  Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash
 videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use video tag? I looked at
 http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on
 Ubuntu.
 
 Not sure how much work this would entail.
 Unfortunately my line kept dropping and I didn't get to talk about them not
 playing in FF.

The newer ones should run fine in Chromium with chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra 
installed. The older ones are unfortunately only avaiable as flv files. 
The new videos from 2011 will be encoded in webm (which should be playable in 
every browser [FF 4.0 is needed]) + h264 (m4v as blip.tv now converts 
automatically to it). As for the video tag. As far as I know chromium is 
loading and caching those videos when you add them with the video tag. That 
would produce high traffic on the server. (blip.tv in that case) So a link to 
the file would be better I think. Clicking the link should then open up the 
video in the internal browser video player.  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] proxy setup?

2010-12-13 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, um 11:53:25 schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 Installed Rabbit4.8 (a simple java proxy, which is really easy to use
 by the way), and got it up and running in no time. Probably squid is
 also easy to set up, I just did not have the time to try it. LXProxy
 is not acceptable for me, since logging out and back again is not
 something I would do for a proxy setting change.
There is simply no other way around for setting a global proxy(someone correct 
me if I am wrong). LXDE simply must reread the ~/.profile file for the proxy 
settings to globally apply. 
One alternative for you might be that you can start a terminal and execute 
source ~/.profile right after a proxy change in lxproxy, which will then load 
the proxy changes you made for this terminal window. So running chromium or 
another app will use then the shortly changed proxy settings. 


 
 Unfortunatelly in Chromium 8.0.552.215 (67652) Ubuntu 10.10, I can not
 add proxy configuration to my browser. When I click on Change proxy
 settings, I'm getting:
 
 When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the
 system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not
 supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.
 
 But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man
 chromium-browser for more information on flags and environment
 variables.
 
 
 This is too bad.
Chromium just uses the system proxy settings and doesn't have its own proxy 
manager. 

 
 Is this also related to the fact that LXDE is a simple window
 manager ? (bug related to the issue that Chromium can not determine
 if it's default browser or not):
 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=53066
I think chromium simply looks for the gnome gconf entries and not the 
freedesktop specification in xdg

 
 Installed Midori and FF, both could be configured to use the above
 mentioned proxy (in general, proxies could be added to these
 browsers).
Yes those browsers have their own proxy managers on board. But you cannot set 
a global proxy for every app with them. 

 
 thanks
 Zoltan
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] proxy setup?

2010-12-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Donnerstag 09 Dezember 2010, um 13:04:46 schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 Hi,
 
 I started using (at least tried) Lubuntu 10.10 at my workplace (enterprise
 environment), and need to setup a proxy.
 Is it possible to setup a system/global proxy in lubuntu? Tried Lxproxy,
 but did not work. Also couldn't find any info regarding this.
 
 Can you please point me in the right direction (wiki, forum, etc..
 anything).
 
 Thanks
 Zoltan

LXProxy needs a relogon to activate proxy settings as its writing them to your 
~/.profile file. Some apps also their own proxy configuration settings. 
And please write also a bug report ( http://launchpad.net/lxproxy ) with a 
little more details so that I can take a look at it and fix a problem that 
might occured. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1 Aministrative password wrong

2010-12-06 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 05 Dezember 2010, um 23:41:38 schrieb Steve:
 On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:08:48 -, Andrew Woodhead
 
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  
  wrote:
  Just got Natty Alpha 1 installed and when I try to start any program
  that requires my password the response is 'Incorrect password... try
  again.'
  
   Clearly the password is correct as I wouldn’t be able to log in and it
  
  works in a terminal.
  
  Try running:
  
  passwd
  
  and set it to something new to test
 
 No change I’m afraid.
 Users and Groups, along with Disk Utility accept the password but,
 Synaptic and Update manager don’t.  So my original message about 'any
 program' was wrong.

Is your user in the group wheel and is wheel activated to use sudo (see 
/etc/sudoers with roots right) ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] trash can question

2010-12-04 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Samstag 04 Dezember 2010, um 08:16:55 schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 Hi,
 
 Is it possible to add trash can to desktop or to task bar? Or the only way
 to access it is from the file manager?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 Zoltan

Just create a new txt file called trash.desktop in the Desktop folder and paste 
in the following:

Type=Application
Icon=emptytrash
Name=Trash
Name[de]=Persönliches Verzeichnis
Categories=FileManager;Utility;Core;GTK;
Exec=pcmanfm trash:///
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false

This will give you a trash icon on the desktop. But unfortunately the icon is 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hotot

2010-11-27 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Samstag 27 November 2010, um 14:39:12 schrieb kosaidpo:
 hello guys
 lately for some unkonwn reason i  cant open Url in hotot any idea why
 o how to fix this ??
 
 
 regards

Try opening it under a terminal and see what happens when you click an url

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : control-center

2010-11-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 21 November 2010, 11:45:34 schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 Hi,
 
 A control-center is an usual requested feature for Lubuntu. I think it
 would be a good addition. For now, we have 2 choices :
 - lubuntu-control-center, which is simple but a bit limited
+1 for the lubuntu-control-center (and thats not only  because I wrote it)
The tuquido control center seems to fancy for me. It reminds me of the Windows 
XP/Vista Control center with all its category hell. Where you don't find 
anything so easily. It also requires Webkit as a dependency. 

 - the tuquido control-center [1], quite complete with a nice look.
 
 I don't know other control-center which could fit in Lubuntu.
 
 For people which want to use a control-center, what features do you
 expect ?
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 
 [1] :
 http://blog.mariocolque.com.ar/2010/11/19/nuevo-centro-de-control-mas-intui
 tivo-y-personalizable/
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : remove Cheese

2010-11-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 21 November 2010, 12:30:23 schrieb Yorvyk:
 On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:37:02 +0100
 
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I would like to remove cheese from the installation by default. There is
  2 main reasons :
  - It's not strictly necessary, except for testing the webcam and taking
  photos. We don't need the fancy effects by default.
  - It will require Clutter in the next version, which is something that
  should not be included in Lubuntu (like Compiz and Pulseaudio ...).
 
 Not really used it myself but if it is going to require Clutter then it may
 as well go now.

Also if someone wants to use his webcam he will use it 99% for webchatting 
which is possibile with piding. So I think its good to remove it

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : remove Cheese

2010-11-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag 21 November 2010, 18:46:39 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna):
 I really prefer the Lubuntu CC for next release. But I ask (in my
 ignorance), can it accept more options via modules or something like
 that?

It is written as an pygtk app and uses glade. So its only a matter of putting 
in a new icon via glade (the gui to edit *.ui files) and the right command in 
the lubuntu-control-center.py 
So no it does not have an module or addon methode but adding a new entry is 
not very hard

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] dropbox and pcmanfm

2010-11-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Dienstag 09 November 2010, 22:34:18 schrieb kosaidpo:
 hello guys
 i've installed dropbox but when i clik right and choose open the
 folder it gets opened with chromuim
 so guys any tip how to open it with pcmanfm ??
 
 thanks

I think dropbox uses hardcoded nautilus as its only file browser. If it isn't 
installed it will fallback to the default browser. So in your case chromium. 
Fill in a bug report on the dropbox bug tracker (if there exists one). It 
should simply use xdg-open and  then the users of wouldn't have such problems.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 10.10 RMX

2010-11-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Dienstag 09 November 2010, 18:47:12 schrieb T.Beemster:
 On 11/09/2010 06:40 PM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote:
  Ok, it seems that your goal is a Lubuntu Remix. Nice job and nice
  customization. But I have to disappoint you. The Lubuntu artwork is
  not intended or designed to be cool, just practical and simple, as
  possible. Despite my words, I'm not offended, but there's a difference
  between using OUR artwork and using the Orta GTK and many other
  elements, that you must consider on mentioning GPL (or whatever)
  licenses.
  
  Anyway, you can always vote on the next artwork poll...
 
 I disagree on you there. His goal was to make a working lubuntu system
 for his laptop, and it worked out well for him, so he was kind enough to
 share it with the mailing list. (That's my opinion on it).
 And I don't see why the artwork should be simple/basic. I mean some
 simple things will improve the appearance of lubuntu hugely, in my opinion.
 I might be wrong about this, but I think whether you have a bad computer
 or a really good one, (almost) everyone likes eyecandy. But again, this
 is just my humble opinion and based on no research whatsoever.

The Artwork needs to be strict and clear and give the user the impression of a 
corporate identity. So that even without seeing the Lubuntu logo you will 
guess from the colors used and how they are mixed up together: Oh that must 
be lubuntu. 
The strict direction or dogma Lubuntu follows here is Be simple (don't know 
if its only inoffical or somewhere offically written down) . That is good and 
should not be changed drastically. (Changing a brand or corporate identiy to 
drastically does not work, some folks here in germany [perhaps also in europe] 
might know the disaster with Raider becoming Twix in the 90s) 
There are some good websites like box-look.org and gnome-look.org aswell as 
kde-look.org to get good wallpaper, icon sets and even openbox themes. 
One interesting idea I had was perhaps creating a special lubuntu-themes-extra 
package which could contain some community created themes. This package may 
then be make public on the lubunt ppa and later perhaps also become a part of 
the official ubuntu repository. If there is enough space on the disk we could 
also ship it default installed. 
But don't get me wrong on this. The basic theme we ship now is good enough. We 
should focus more on polishing the desktop experience for the user. 
Fixing bugs and perhaps adding some interesting features. 
Experimenting with Remixes can be a help to improve your/our own knowledge and 
can give as some hind on how to improve some things. But with that said, I 
don't think everyone now should start its own remix :P 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE + OOo Impress + Ubuntu / Lubuntu-- squeezed subscripts

2010-10-24 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 24.10.2010 13:43, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 Yes, it works and it's a good idea. But it's still a problem when the
 document is opened on another computer, like my Gnome-Ubuntu machine.
 Then it will most likely look expanded. My live Lubuntu session just
 crashed before I had saved the file to an external drive. So I give up
 producing any hard evidence for today. Have to go to work now.

 I think it is definitely something buggy in the border regions between
 OOo, LXDE and Ubuntu/ Debian. I just don't know who is interested in the
 problem. Should I turn to OpenOffice.org?
   
Yes it won't be wrong to ask the OpenOffice guys.
 lör 2010-10-23 klockan 12:21 +0200 skrev Leszek Lesner:
   
 Am 23.10.2010 11:42, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 
 Thanks for the reply. I will send a file when I get home. I'm convinced the 
 same .odp file will look OK in Fedora LXDE Respin, but I will try. By the 
 way, I checked running Linux Mint LXDE in live mode which reproduced the 
 problem. 

 Anyway, what I do is I just open a new blank presentation file, choose a 
 bullet list layout, or anything else, and start typing. Highlight 
 particle, go to Format - Character - Position tab, choosing subscript, 
 and OK. Pressing F5 gets me into presentation mode.
   
   
 Ok I figured it out I guess. In the Character - Position Tab make sure
 to set the spacing to expanded for example by 1.0 or 2.0 pt. This will
 correct the error for me at least. But I had to click on the slide to
 unmark the textbox that usally draws arround the bulletpoint list to
 have an effect in the fullscreen mode. Please try this and see if it
 fixes this also for you.
 
 23 okt 2010 kl. 10.39 skrev Leszek Lesner:

   
   
 Am 23.10.2010 08:17, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 
 
 Here are two screenshots - one in presentation mode and the other in
 normal edit mode.

   
   
 This might be a bug in OpenOffice but I am not quite sure if how you
 created this document. Did you draw a textbox for the crunched text ? Or
 how did you do it ?
 (Maybe the best would be also uploading this example test file aswell)
 
 
 fre 2010-10-22 klockan 21:53 +0200 skrev Leszek Lesner:

   
   
 Am 22.10.2010 21:49, schrieb Mårten Behm:

 
 
 Just joined Lubuntu on Launchpad in my search for a forum for this
 problem. I was recommended to try this at the lxde forum.

 I have been using Eeebuntu 3.0 LXDE beta on my EeePC 900. It's been
 working great, except for this one thing. I use it at work for
 presentations with OOo Impress, but in slide show mode subscript letters
 get squeezed together and look terrible. This makes it quite useless
 with science-related stuff.


   
   
 I think a screenshot would be quite interesting to get to understand
 your problem better.

 
 
 So I changed to Lubuntu 10.04, but the problem remained. The issue
 doesn't seem hardware specific as it was reproduced on an old Dell
 Optiplex GX60. I should also say that OOo Writer works OK in this
 respect.

 I decided that the problem might be Ubuntu or Debian specific so I
 installed the Fedora 13 LXDE respin. And the problem is gone! 

 Today I thought I might try Lubuntu 10.10. Same problem!

 So I suppose I can use Fedora, and that's it. However, I would like to
 stay with Ubuntu because I use it on my other computers and would like
 to avoid having to learn another distribution from scratch.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE + OOo Impress + Ubuntu / Lubuntu-- squeezed subscripts

2010-10-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.10.2010 08:17, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 Here are two screenshots - one in presentation mode and the other in
 normal edit mode.
   
This might be a bug in OpenOffice but I am not quite sure if how you
created this document. Did you draw a textbox for the crunched text ? Or
how did you do it ?
(Maybe the best would be also uploading this example test file aswell)
 fre 2010-10-22 klockan 21:53 +0200 skrev Leszek Lesner:
   
 Am 22.10.2010 21:49, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 
 Just joined Lubuntu on Launchpad in my search for a forum for this
 problem. I was recommended to try this at the lxde forum.

 I have been using Eeebuntu 3.0 LXDE beta on my EeePC 900. It's been
 working great, except for this one thing. I use it at work for
 presentations with OOo Impress, but in slide show mode subscript letters
 get squeezed together and look terrible. This makes it quite useless
 with science-related stuff.
   
   
 I think a screenshot would be quite interesting to get to understand
 your problem better.
 
 So I changed to Lubuntu 10.04, but the problem remained. The issue
 doesn't seem hardware specific as it was reproduced on an old Dell
 Optiplex GX60. I should also say that OOo Writer works OK in this
 respect.

 I decided that the problem might be Ubuntu or Debian specific so I
 installed the Fedora 13 LXDE respin. And the problem is gone! 

 Today I thought I might try Lubuntu 10.10. Same problem!

 So I suppose I can use Fedora, and that's it. However, I would like to
 stay with Ubuntu because I use it on my other computers and would like
 to avoid having to learn another distribution from scratch.

 Any ideas? Thanks. /Mårten


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE + OOo Impress + Ubuntu / Lubuntu-- squeezed subscripts

2010-10-22 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 22.10.2010 21:49, schrieb Mårten Behm:
 Just joined Lubuntu on Launchpad in my search for a forum for this
 problem. I was recommended to try this at the lxde forum.

 I have been using Eeebuntu 3.0 LXDE beta on my EeePC 900. It's been
 working great, except for this one thing. I use it at work for
 presentations with OOo Impress, but in slide show mode subscript letters
 get squeezed together and look terrible. This makes it quite useless
 with science-related stuff.
   
I think a screenshot would be quite interesting to get to understand
your problem better.
 So I changed to Lubuntu 10.04, but the problem remained. The issue
 doesn't seem hardware specific as it was reproduced on an old Dell
 Optiplex GX60. I should also say that OOo Writer works OK in this
 respect.

 I decided that the problem might be Ubuntu or Debian specific so I
 installed the Fedora 13 LXDE respin. And the problem is gone! 

 Today I thought I might try Lubuntu 10.10. Same problem!

 So I suppose I can use Fedora, and that's it. However, I would like to
 stay with Ubuntu because I use it on my other computers and would like
 to avoid having to learn another distribution from scratch.

 Any ideas? Thanks. /Mårten


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 21.10.2010 12:38, schrieb PCMan:
 Is there any chance that we keep supporting these old machines?
 I don't see any reason to force the use of i686.
 Only the compiler flags need to be changed.
 All programs should be able to be compiled with i586.
 If supporting i586 is not allowed by Canonical, then I personally
 think we need a fork.
   
Thats somehow insane. The community isn't big enough to host a fork.
A fork would mean copy the whole ubuntu repo and recompile everything
for i586.
(Forking/)Taking  the kernel package and add support for i586 and put
it in the ppa would be much more appropiate.
Or perhaps Canonical agrees to build special i586 enabled kernels that
lubuntu can use.
 A distro aimed to provide best desktop experience for old and limited
 machines doesn't run on old machines at all. This is really ironic,
 isn't it?
   
Yes that is kind of strange ;)
 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
   
 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:10:45 +0100
 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:

 
 Julien,

  as we are the last post of support for older computers, to  with
 Canonical and them dropping the support from the kernel for i586 and below
 that I thought that was the 'raison d'etre' for Lubuntu. We cannot turn our
 backs on these people.  Just my 2 cents worth.

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On 21 October 2010 00:02, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

   
 On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:07:04 -
 Christian Stöveken launchpad@excogitation.de wrote:

 
 Hey,

 I just tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 on a K6 450 notebook and ran into
 the cmov missing problem.
 Since this distribution is designed to run on low end machines cmov
 support should be compiled into the kernel
 (imho).

 I just wanted to check if you're already aware of the missing cmov
 support in recent kernels.

   
 Sadly, yes.  See  this thread
 https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02587.html

 
   
 We’ll probably have to support 10.04 for a bit longer for these machines.

 --
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.

2010-10-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 18.10.2010 15:25, schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:59:06 +0200
 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

   
 I created a Install CD by simply creating a minimal install CD plus a repo. 
 Unfortunetly the Installation fails after installing the base system, 
 because it tries to install a package called lubuntu-desktop^ in the tasksel 
 process which it cant find. I tried this with the modified tasksel version 
 of yours. I even checked the modification you made but cant find the error. 
 
 I'm not sure I made the correct fix for tasksel, it probably needs another 
 fix somewhere. But I interesting to know how you made the initial CD, because 
 I only find how doing an iso with squash filesystem, but not with .deb 
 packages.
   
Ok I see it wasn't quite the right fixes you made as the last line in
lubuntu-desktop from the ubuntu-tasks folder contains
 Packages: task-fields
This would as far as I understand connect to the ubuntu server and
search for a corresponding task. But there isn't one.
 Packages: list
   lubuntu-desktop
works much better and fixes the error I got before.

To create the CD I basically took the xubuntu alternate cd. Then I
copied over the whole ISO and put it into one directory(lets call it
cd-img). Replaced the isolinux folder with the fancy isolinux folder
from the livecd with the cool looking logo png and where you can set
language with F2 and with F3 the keymap and so on.
The first thing that I did afterwards was taking the xubuntu.preseed
file that ships with the xubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso and changing
it basically from xubuntu-desktop to lubuntu-desktop(I know there is a
lubuntu.seed file on the live cd but I took the one from the other
alternate cds as they were more entries and I didn't want to mess ups
things). Then I put this preseed file back to my copy of the minimal
install cd(so the cd-img folder) into the preseed folder.
I did change the txt.cfg file in isolinux so that the default option
would boot with the preseed file option of the lubuntu.seed .
Then the little bit more tricky part create a repository. For creating
this repository I know that I need every package that needs to be
installed when installing lubuntu-desktop. Every means every , so also
xorg and those other stuffs. As I had a Minimal Install ISO aswell I
simply created a minimal installed cli only system in virtualbox and
apt-get install(ed) lubuntu-desktop. All the required deb files are
stored in /var/cache/apt/. The only thing to do now is getting those deb
files outside the virtual machine. Then there is a cool package called
apt-move which is pretty handy as it can automatically copy or move
those deb files in a repository like hierarchical folder view. So it
will create automatically the structure of a repository that you need,
by putting in lubuntu-desktop for example  in a
pool/l/lubuntu-meta/lubuntu-desktop_xXX-i386.deb file/folder structure.
By default this repository structure will be put into /mirrors/debian so
you need root right to run apt-move. But I guess the default folder is
changeable I just was to lazy to read the manpage ;)
Then we copy over the pool directory to the cd-img folder. Again me as
being lazy I didn't overwrite all the packages that where already in the
xubuntu pool directory (they can be deleted later I guess or you can
delete the whole pool directory with the exception of the udeb files. So
'find . -name *.udeb' and copy over all udeb files as they are
necessary for the installer). Then we have the pool directory almost
ready. I had to repackage the ubuntu-keyring package as I don't have the
private key to sign the cd and the new repository with official ubuntu
keyring. So I downloaded the keyring and added my own private key to it.
This step is really important because otherwise the installer won't
install if the repo isn't signed. So I repackaged this package and put
it into the pool structure unter u/ubuntu-keyring I think it was.
That should be all for the pool directory. Basically we need the Release
and Packages.gz file for the repository now and sign it.
So I created a release.conf file ( storing the basic info like distro
name , codename and main + universe repos) and a config file you can see
here to get an Idea how it works:
http://pastebin.ca/1965874
This is basically the file that will scan the pool files and create the
Packages.gz for each repo (means main and universe).
As you can see here you need also some override files that you can get
from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices
As the above config file will only create a package listing for debs I
created also a config which scans all the udebs.
Here is the config: http://pastebin.ca/1965876
As you can see I basically only replaced the deb with udeb :)
Now we have all the config files lets build the packages and release
files with:
 apt-ftparchive -c /path/to/release.conf generate 
 ../apt-ftparchive/apt-ftparchive-deb.conf
 apt-ftparchive -c /path

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586

2010-10-15 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman:
 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote:
  But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu.
  Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass
  ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;)

 Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800
 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so
 Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu
 CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a
 bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot
 from USB Flash).
There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick.
Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu.
Stick in the USB Live Stick.
Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message
Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it
will then boot from usb key.
It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586

2010-10-15 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 15.10.2010 19:40, schrieb Yorvyk:
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:51:42 +0200
 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

   
 Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman:
 
 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote:
   
 But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu.
 Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass
 ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;)
 
 Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800
 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so
 Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu
 CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a
 bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot
 from USB Flash).
   
 There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick.
 Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu.
 Stick in the USB Live Stick.
 Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message
 Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it
 will then boot from usb key.
 It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb.

 
 Try as I might I cannot get that to work
   
Doesn't it detect the usb stick or does it fail even to go into init ?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] marketing

2010-10-07 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 07.10.2010 11:37, schrieb Rafael Laguna:
 Marketing updated. Any suggestion?
   
The 10.04 CD Wallet Images look way cooler and prettier than the 10.10s.
Maybe you can add a shiny glossy effect to them also.
Everything else seems to be fine. I like the bigger Web buttons :)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing






   


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] marketing

2010-10-07 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 07.10.2010 14:35, schrieb Rafael Laguna:
 Due to popular demand (3 mails :D) I've replaced the cd wallet mockups
 by another ones that match better the desktop schemes. Have a look:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing

   
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-03 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 03.10.2010 01:08, schrieb Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset:
 First: Isn't there a way to get a text based splashcreen without plymouth??
   
You need something similiar as plymouth. And as I sad plymouth already
has a text plugin which is doing exact the same which you want to have.
 it would result a faster boot! (and less complicated?)
   
I doubt that it will be a lot faster. Plymouth isn't in any way
complicated.
There is just a plymouth Daemon started at the preinit stage and this
one blocks the normal text output on TTy1 and blends in a splash (no
matter which plugin you use, if text or real graphics or even simple movie)
 
 Second: a text based installer seems to me an excellent idea to make the
 installation fast, since many of us and the rest of the possible users of
 lubuntu would possibly use it to revamp an old machine!!
 Third: the text based installer should be by default and exist no other.
 Doing this, then we will not be dependent of some things that goes nuts, or
 another ones that are consuming much ram AND the install would be FAST.

 It's just my humble opinion :)

 --
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 Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04)
 Linux user #522.597

   


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 02.10.2010 03:33, schrieb Bob Trevithick:
 I really hope that it can be removed from the system, or it can be turned 
 off in a sane way.
 BTW, in the past usplash always work on my box, but plymouth is really 
 problematic.
 
 I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is
 like a cancer that has metathesized throughout the entire system.
 That the dependencies make it almost impossible to remove.
   
Thats not true. I debugged the plymouth package in Debian for my latest
release of ZevenOS-Neptune and I can say, it works very fine with free
software drivers. With proprietary Softwaredrivers you need to attact
vga=792 or another high resolution highcolor mode for it to work.
Crashes of plymouth should not affect booting.
Deleting it is no problem.
 I sincerely hope this isn't true.

 I booted some system the other day, I forget what it was, and it just
 printed the text Booting, please wait..

 What a joy that was.  It looked so professional compared to the mess
 we've been seeing for so long now.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Bug: Missing some driver files for Broadcom wireless 4321

2010-09-29 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 29.09.2010 19:33, schrieb Pierre Yahoo:
 Hi,

 I cannot get any wireless networks.  I tried to install the drivers
 for it through PreferencesHardware Drivers but the process stalls
 because some files/dependencies are missing:

 W: Échec de la récupération de
 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.4/gcc-4.4_4.4.4-14ubuntu4_i386.deb

   404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.88.40 80]


 W: Échec de la récupération de
 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.4/libstdc++6-4.4-dev_4.4.4-14ubuntu4_i386.deb

   404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.88.40 80]


 W: Échec de la récupération de
 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.4/g++-4.4_4.4.4-14ubuntu4_i386.deb

   404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.88.40 80]

 The files are associated with Synaptic's:
 broadcom-sta-source

 It cannot be installed properly.  A lot of people will not get
 wireless unless this is fixed.  Is there a way around?


 Thanks.
You need a internet connection and an up to date repository listing.
(With LAN connection do a apt-get update and rerun hardwar drivers manager)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 22.09.2010 23:34, schrieb Gilles:
 At 23:21 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:
 Here are commands summed up.

 1. DD (2GB Persistency Image):
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw bs=1024
 count=2000
 2. Format the persistent image
  mkfs.ext2 /media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw
 3. Add persistent to your bootoptions
 4. Reboot

 Thanks again. I'll try that tomorrow morning and report back.

 Out of curiosity, what does Linux save in this second partition, used
 for persistence between reboots? Is it just a symlink to /etc?
 I currently use a 1GB stick, so I was thinking of booting Linux from
 the hard-disk/CD, shrink the current Linux on the USB stick to make
 room for the persistent partition, and create/format a 200MB ext2
 partition for persistent data.
Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing
with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with
apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Gparted to running USB key?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.09.2010 14:03, schrieb Gilles:
 Hello

 I need to resize an NTFS partition that contains XPSP3. Since I have a
 working Lubuntu live USB key, I was wondering if I could just run
 apt-get to install Gparted and its dependencies, instead of burning
 the Gparted live ISO?

 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
You can just install gparted on your lubuntu live usb stick.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.09.2010 15:23, schrieb Goh Lip:
 On Thursday 23,September,2010 08:55 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
 Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing
 with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with
 apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder.

 How about kernel upgrades (as in 2.6.35-22-generic from
 2.6.35-21-generic), does that keep that too? If not, how to endure it
 does or at least how to make sure the new kernel boots up the next time?

Kernel changes will be also changed but only in the persistency file.
As the bootloader normaly searches for a vmlinuz and initrd on the fat32
portion of a usb stick, you need to replace the old vmlinuz and initrd
files on your usb sticks casper directory.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.09.2010 16:44, schrieb Gilles:
 At 16:30 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
 But just to add or elaborate, what I did was to install Lubuntu like
 to a hard disk but it is to a usb stick instead. That's the whole
 explanation. The advantages are that, of course, there is no need for
 persistent or casper-rw, and things should process faster. There
 might be some things to watch out for, like setting grub to hard disk
 instead of to the usb stick, as some have found out.

 Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the
 current Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the
 Menu, add a couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I
 need, and I should look at remastering the ISO from the customized,
 running USB key.

 Normally, at every kernel change, the system will, besides updating
 the grub menu or grub.cfg, it will create both the  initrd and
 syslink and /vmlinuz and syslink to /root. However, until recently, I
 noticed Lubuntu was not doing this, as compared to ubuntu and
 kubuntu. Also even if it does this now, we had to take care that it
 is done to the casper directory instead and named properly, as Leszek
 has just pointed out to me just now.

 BTW, does someone know exactly how initrd.(gz|lz) is built? Am I
 correct in thinking it's just grabbing everything in /lib/modules/ and
 compressing them in a single file?
Its grabbing the modules it needs plus the init script
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/) and for livecds also the casper scripts.
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts  /usr/share/capser)  


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.09.2010 16:49, schrieb Bob Trevithick:
 Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the current
 Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the Menu, add a
 couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need, and I should
 look at remastering the ISO from the customized, running USB key.
 
 I'm quite a bit over my head here, compared to the others, but if
 you're running on a read/write USB device, why can't you add and
 remove packages like you normally would on any other disk?   Just a
 thought. :)
   
A live usb stick runs from a highly compressed read only image
(filesystem.squashfs) stored on a rewritable fat partition.
So you can write changes to the fat portion of the usb stick but not to
the highly compressed image.
 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 22.09.2010 22:11, schrieb Gilles:
 At 21:10 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:
 Try adding console-setup/layoutcode=fr aswell to the boot options

 Thanks a lot, it worked :-)

 To sum up, here's what I appended to \\USB\syslinux\text.cfg:

 locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr console-setup/layoutcode=fr

 One more question related to the UI: Since I still don't know how to
 make this USB key persistent, I also need to configure the boot
 options so that X starts in 1024x...@75hz, ie. the equivalent of
 running this once X is up and running:

 xrandr -s 1024x768 -r 75
As Xorg uses autodetection I think it isn't possible without an
persistent usb stick.
For enabling persitency with a file on a fat32 formatted stick you need
to create a file with dd with you preffered persistent file size and
then simply format this with ext2/3 or 4 or whatever filesystem you
like. Rename the file to casper-rw and add persistence to your boot
options.
Alternatively you can resize the fat32 portion of your filesystem on
your stick and add a ext2/3 or 4 formatted filesystem to it with the
label casper-rw to enable full persistency. For only activate
persistency for your home directory (this wouldn't solve your xorg
resolution problem though) replace casper-rw with home-rw.

Here are commands summed up.

1. DD (2GB Persistency Image):
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw bs=1024
count=2000
2. Format the persistent image
 mkfs.ext2 /media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw
3. Add persistent to your bootoptions
4. Reboot

Hope this helps you :)


 Does someone know how to do this?

 Thank you.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxkeymap, an app to switch keyboard layout easily

2010-09-15 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 14.09.2010 21:30, schrieb Leszek Lesner:
 Am 14.09.2010 18:24, schrieb PCMan:
   
 Looks interesting.
 Do you have any online repository for your source code?
   
 
 Not yet, I think I will upload the code to launchpad.
 Its written in python so basically the sourcecode is included :)
   

You can find lxkeymap now on : https://launchpad.net/lxkeymap
   
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
   
 
 Hi,

 here is the newest version of LXKeymap 0.2 .
 It comes with an expert mode allowing for setting very much every keymap
 and variant known to the system.
 I also updated some common keymaps and variants.
 Here some screenshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344591/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344603/

 and the deb:

 http://zevenos.com/files/lxkeymap_0.2_all.deb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxkeymap, an app to switch keyboard layout easily

2010-09-14 Thread Leszek Lesner
Hi,

here is the newest version of LXKeymap 0.2 .
It comes with an expert mode allowing for setting very much every keymap
and variant known to the system.
I also updated some common keymaps and variants.
Here some screenshots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344591/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344603/

and the deb:

http://zevenos.com/files/lxkeymap_0.2_all.deb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxkeymap, an app to switch keyboard layout easily

2010-09-14 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 14.09.2010 18:24, schrieb PCMan:
 Looks interesting.
 Do you have any online repository for your source code?
   
Not yet, I think I will upload the code to launchpad.
Its written in python so basically the sourcecode is included :)

 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
   
 Hi,

 here is the newest version of LXKeymap 0.2 .
 It comes with an expert mode allowing for setting very much every keymap
 and variant known to the system.
 I also updated some common keymaps and variants.
 Here some screenshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344591/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4986344603/

 and the deb:

 http://zevenos.com/files/lxkeymap_0.2_all.deb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 10.10 Beta1 2 Bugs: Remasterys Network Manager

2010-09-08 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 08.09.2010 16:02, schrieb Pierre Yahoo:
 Julien  Others,

 I was very impressed with Lubuntu Lucid... very stable  opened
 everything I threw at it.

 10.10 Beta1:
 Installing Remastersys failed (latest sourceforge version
 2.0.17-1.deb).  GDebi error: ... did not recognize flags.
See the GDebi Thread. Its a known bug in GDebi use sudo dpkg -i
/path/to/package.deb to install it.

 Lucid  Maverick Network Manager
 Network Manager (perhaps Applet in LXPanel)
 The only instability issue I had in Lucid (will probably be the same
 in Maverick) is the Network Manager.  It failed to connect to the
 Internet (wired) on a number of occasions.
If network-manager seems to fail you can always try to ditch it and
manually configure network. 

 Tried to reinstall and various other things without success.  Now, I
 have no access to Edit and VPN Connection windows (clicking on the
 options does not open the window)... i.e. cannot change anything or
 redo the connection if it fails.

 It is a MAJOR PROBLEM as a computer without network access is useless.

 Was not able to reinstall... not sure what to reinstall exactly... or
 got message that program was being used.  It is probably a simple fix
 but if you do not know it, you have to reinstall everything.

 What and how do I reinstall it exactly (including how and which
 'program in used' to terminate) to fix this problem?
 Could not seem to find the correct answer in forums.
network-manager-gnome is the package that needs to be reinstalled. If it
isn't working try searching the Ubuntu Bug Tracker for the error that
matches your experience. If you don't find any please report it as a new
bug.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Control Center

2010-09-06 Thread Leszek Lesner

New Version is out (0.2):

* fixed dependencies
* added german language
* added tooltips
* cut strings that are to long (useful for translation)

Version 0.2 (deb) can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3kyy21ubztiki0c

Sources + the pot file for translating can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0vnu65kbvi55iu1

I will create a launchpad entry if there is any interest in continuing
this app ;)



Am 06.09.2010 07:03, schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 I got this:

 z...@zoli-laptop:~$ lubuntu-control-center
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/lubuntu-control-center, line 43, in module
 from lubuntu_control_center import (
   File 
 /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lubuntu_control_center/PreferencesLubuntuControlCenterDialog.py,
 line 17, in module
 from desktopcouch.records.server import CouchDatabase
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/__init__.py,
 line 20, in module
 from desktopcouch.start_local_couchdb import process_is_couchdb,
 read_pidfile
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/start_local_couchdb.py,
 line 38, in module
 from desktopcouch import local_files
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py,
 line 34, in module
 import gnomekeyring
 ImportError: No module named gnomekeyring
 z...@zoli-laptop:~$


 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Duy Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 I got this error when installing:

 sudo dpkg -i lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package lubuntu-control-center.
 (Reading database ... 99322 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking lubuntu-control-center (from lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb)
 ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of lubuntu-control-center:
  lubuntu-control-center depends on desktopcouch; however:
   Package desktopcouch is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing lubuntu-control-center (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  lubuntu-control-center

 So I tried to install desktoptouch and got this:

 sudo apt-get install desktopcouch
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  desktopcouch : Depends: couchdb-bin (= 0.10.0-0ubuntu3) but it is not
 going to be installed
 Depends: python-couchdb (= 0.6) but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: python-twisted-core but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: python-avahi but it is not going to be installed
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify
 a solution).


 On 5 September 2010 23:10, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 
 I know there was something in the work but here is now my version of a
 Lubuntu Control Center for Lubuntu 10.10 and Lubuntu 10.04 (it should work
 fine there too).
 It is a simple GUI starting the configuration tools that already ship with
 Lubuntu (except for LXProxy, which needs to be downloaded seperately).

 Here a small screenshot:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4960072883/

 Download (deb) : http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnt9iebg8tgpgb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Control Center

2010-09-06 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 06.09.2010 11:51, schrieb Yaron Shahrabani:
 And now you got yourself a Hebrew translation already :)
 Yaron Shahrabani

 Hebrew translator
   
Perfect ;)




 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

   
 New Version is out (0.2):

 * fixed dependencies
 * added german language
 * added tooltips
 * cut strings that are to long (useful for translation)

 Version 0.2 (deb) can be found here:
 http://www.mediafire.com/?3kyy21ubztiki0c

 Sources + the pot file for translating can be found here:
 http://www.mediafire.com/?0vnu65kbvi55iu1

 I will create a launchpad entry if there is any interest in continuing
 this app ;)



 Am 06.09.2010 07:03, schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 
 I got this:

 z...@zoli-laptop:~$ lubuntu-control-center
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/lubuntu-control-center, line 43, in module
 from lubuntu_control_center import (
   File
   
 /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lubuntu_control_center/PreferencesLubuntuControlCenterDialog.py,
 
 line 17, in module
 from desktopcouch.records.server import CouchDatabase
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/__init__.py,
 line 20, in module
 from desktopcouch.start_local_couchdb import process_is_couchdb,
 read_pidfile
   File
   
 /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/start_local_couchdb.py,
 
 line 38, in module
 from desktopcouch import local_files
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py,
 line 34, in module
 import gnomekeyring
 ImportError: No module named gnomekeyring
 z...@zoli-laptop:~$


 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Duy Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com
   
 wrote:
 
   
 I got this error when installing:

 sudo dpkg -i lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package lubuntu-control-center.
 (Reading database ... 99322 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking lubuntu-control-center (from
 
 lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb)
 
 ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
 
 lubuntu-control-center:
 
  lubuntu-control-center depends on desktopcouch; however:
   Package desktopcouch is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing lubuntu-control-center (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  lubuntu-control-center

 So I tried to install desktoptouch and got this:

 sudo apt-get install desktopcouch
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  desktopcouch : Depends: couchdb-bin (= 0.10.0-0ubuntu3) but it is not
 going to be installed
 Depends: python-couchdb (= 0.6) but it is not going to
 
 be
 
 installed
 Depends: python-twisted-core but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: python-avahi but it is not going to be
 
 installed
 
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
 
 specify
 
 a solution).


 On 5 September 2010 23:10, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 
 I know there was something in the work but here is now my version of a
 Lubuntu Control Center for Lubuntu 10.10 and Lubuntu 10.04 (it should
   
 work
 
 fine there too).
 It is a simple GUI starting the configuration tools that already ship
   
 with
 
 Lubuntu (except for LXProxy, which needs to be downloaded seperately).

 Here a small screenshot:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4960072883/

 Download (deb) : http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnt9iebg8tgpgb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Control Center

2010-09-06 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 06.09.2010 12:17, schrieb Duy Hùng Trần:
 Thank you Leszek, it works well for me now, except Proxy part, I click it
 but nothing happens then.
 And this is Vietnamese translation.
   

The Proxy part needs LXProxy which is an seperate application I wrote 6
months ago. You can find it here:
http://zevenos.com/files/lxproxy_0.1ubuntu3_all.deb

Thx for the translation ;)

 Regards,
 Duy Hung

 On 6 September 2010 16:43, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

   
 New Version is out (0.2):

 * fixed dependencies
 * added german language
 * added tooltips
 * cut strings that are to long (useful for translation)

 Version 0.2 (deb) can be found here:
 http://www.mediafire.com/?3kyy21ubztiki0c

 Sources + the pot file for translating can be found here:
 http://www.mediafire.com/?0vnu65kbvi55iu1

 I will create a launchpad entry if there is any interest in continuing
 this app ;)



 Am 06.09.2010 07:03, schrieb Zoltan Matlak:
 
 I got this:

 z...@zoli-laptop:~$ lubuntu-control-center
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/lubuntu-control-center, line 43, in module
 from lubuntu_control_center import (
   File
   
 /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lubuntu_control_center/PreferencesLubuntuControlCenterDialog.py,
 
 line 17, in module
 from desktopcouch.records.server import CouchDatabase
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/__init__.py,
 line 20, in module
 from desktopcouch.start_local_couchdb import process_is_couchdb,
 read_pidfile
   File
   
 /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/start_local_couchdb.py,
 
 line 38, in module
 from desktopcouch import local_files
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py,
 line 34, in module
 import gnomekeyring
 ImportError: No module named gnomekeyring
 z...@zoli-laptop:~$


 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Duy Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com
   
 wrote:
 
   
 I got this error when installing:

 sudo dpkg -i lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package lubuntu-control-center.
 (Reading database ... 99322 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking lubuntu-control-center (from
 
 lubuntu-control-center_0.1_all.deb)
 
 ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
 
 lubuntu-control-center:
 
  lubuntu-control-center depends on desktopcouch; however:
   Package desktopcouch is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing lubuntu-control-center (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  lubuntu-control-center

 So I tried to install desktoptouch and got this:

 sudo apt-get install desktopcouch
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  desktopcouch : Depends: couchdb-bin (= 0.10.0-0ubuntu3) but it is not
 going to be installed
 Depends: python-couchdb (= 0.6) but it is not going to
 
 be
 
 installed
 Depends: python-twisted-core but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: python-avahi but it is not going to be
 
 installed
 
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
 
 specify
 
 a solution).


 On 5 September 2010 23:10, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 
 I know there was something in the work but here is now my version of a
 Lubuntu Control Center for Lubuntu 10.10 and Lubuntu 10.04 (it should
   
 work
 
 fine there too).
 It is a simple GUI starting the configuration tools that already ship
   
 with
 
 Lubuntu (except for LXProxy, which needs to be downloaded seperately).

 Here a small screenshot:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4960072883/

 Download (deb) : http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnt9iebg8tgpgb

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2010-09-05 Thread Leszek Lesner
I know there was something in the work but here is now my version of a
Lubuntu Control Center for Lubuntu 10.10 and Lubuntu 10.04 (it should
work fine there too).
It is a simple GUI starting the configuration tools that already ship
with Lubuntu (except for LXProxy, which needs to be downloaded seperately).

Here a small screenshot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4960072883/

Download (deb) : http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnt9iebg8tgpgb

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to know applications are lightweight or not?

2010-08-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 21.08.2010 02:09, schrieb Phillip Whiteside:
 To have a application considered for inclusion it must be stable, use no
 disk space to install and use no RAM or CPU time when running. If it meets
 all those of those, AND is in the official Ubuntu Repositories there will be
 a vote held. (yes, it really does seem like that when proposing a new
 included application).

 If you find a candidate that you feel meets most of the above, please do put
 it forward. Even if it does not get included on the release it would be
 possible to give it a mention in the same way that Deadbeef is as lean,
 mean and keen music player, liked by many but not in the official repos.

 I'm sure this is documented somewhere, but reboot your system up, let it
 settle  and issue *free* and *top* in the terminal window
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LXTerminal
 Make a note of of memory
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:   15345161072532 *461984*  0 113556 457816

 Free memory is in *bold*
   
Sry but measuring free memory is nonsense. Unused memory is wasted
memory. Its by far more important how much memory a single application
uses (without the libraries it needs) to check its efficency. If the
library isn't included by default in lubuntu you need to add this
library memory usage also (because it can't be shared between
applications, when only one app uses it).
The best way to check if an application is suitable is to grep an older
pc and test it there.
Speed + Stability are the far most important points that matter. But it
may be good to test also starting different applications in parallel to
watch if this slows down the application dramatically or not.
 And CPU usage

 Tasks: 134 total,   1 running, 133 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  *1.3%us,*

 Take a note of where the memory and CPU usage is (*bold*), then go to
 install the programme.
 If at this point it wants to bring in a lot additional parts, it is unlikely
 to pass the requirements.

 If it passes that step, then you can, if you wish install it [1]
 and reboot. then issue the *free* and *top* command again to ensure the new
 program is not 'eating up memory' or CPU usage
   
Again CPU usage is important here. Memory usage might be also very high
depending on which application you use (QT and KDE applications share
there memory and reserve mostly more memory then they actually use)
 Start using the application for a little while then issue the commands again
 and you can see what it is using, both in memory and CPU time.
   
Issuing those commands and looking at there output gives only a vague
orientation on how this app might behave. This is definitely not an
objective way to found out how an app behaves on low memory.

 Regards,
 Phill.
 [1] when installing use apt-get, or a ppa in order to remove a package from
 your system if you wish it gone.

 P.S. I've seen many discussions on this, if lubuntu could get a standard way
 of testing of an application I think it is worth us having a 'bench-mark'.
   
There are too many applications and too many different libraries doing
to much different stuff. I don't think we can do a automated
benchmark. Every app must be real time tested. (if they don't fall of
already before testing i.e. thinking of JAVA apps which bring big
dependencies and benefical only for one app)

Regards,
Leszek


 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

   
 Le vendredi 20 août 2010 à 12:53 +0700, Duy Hùng Trần a écrit :
 
 When I introduce Lubuntu to people in my country, I'm sure the most
 asked questions are: How to ... in Lubuntu?, What software to ...
 in Lubuntu?. Most people in Vietnam still use Microsoft Windows, they
 don't know about Linux, about Ubuntu or Lubuntu, but they are ready to
 try something new, to try Linux and the most important thing they want
 to know is their jobs in Windows would be able to be done in
 Lubuntu/Linux or not.
 There are many applications in Ubuntu repository that I could suggest
 them to people but I really don't how to recognize those applications
 are lightweight and suitable for Lubuntu, for their computers or not.
 Do we have any tip to choose the right applications for Lubuntu?
   
 It's difficult to say before testing them :)

 In Lubuntu, we have some criteria for applications we want to include :
 - Low memory usage
 - Low system usage (CPU, hard-disk i/o ...)
 - Low dependencies
 - Still fast :)

 As you see, you can't define them, without testing the application :)

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to know applications are lightweight or not?

2010-08-20 Thread Leszek Lesner
This is an interesting topic. I really don't know how to recognize them
before testing them. But looking to other so called lightweight
distributions and there default applications would be one way to do
this. Another one would be looking at the homepages of the different
applications and trying to find the system requirements for this app.
Lastly but not least Blogs like ubuntu geek have some app tips and also
write about lightweight applications.

Hope this helps ;)

Am 20.08.2010 07:53, schrieb Duy Hùng Tra^`n:
 Hi all!
 When I introduce Lubuntu to people in my country, I'm sure the most asked
 questions are: How to ... in Lubuntu?, What software to ... in Lubuntu?.
 Most people in Vietnam still use Microsoft Windows, they don't know about
 Linux, about Ubuntu or Lubuntu, but they are ready to try something new, to
 try Linux and the most important thing they want to know is their jobs in
 Windows would be able to be done in Lubuntu/Linux or not.
 There are many applications in Ubuntu repository that I could suggest them
 to people but I really don't how to recognize those applications are
 lightweight and suitable for Lubuntu, for their computers or not.
 Do we have any tip to choose the right applications for Lubuntu?

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Custom Launcher.

2010-08-10 Thread Leszek Lesner
Isn't there an lxde-shortcut creator or something. I remember seeing it
somewhere.
It creates .desktop files very easily with a GUI.

Am 09.08.2010 22:05, schrieb Phillip Whiteside:
 Thanks Steve,

 I had a feeling that would be way to do it (see, I do learn :p )

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

   
 On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:15:11 +0100
 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:

 
 Hi, a request from the forum area.

 Phil, is there any easy way to create a custom launcher either on the
   
 panel
 
 of the desktop? I'm wanting to make a launcher for rtorrent. This is
 
 one of
 
 the only things I miss about Gnome(well that, and minimizing to tray
 
 doesn't
 
 really work with a lot of apps). I just have to adjust to LXDE since I
 
 am so
 
 used to Gnome. But all I used to have to do is right-click a panel, his
 create launcher, the put rtorrent in for the command and the name, and
 
 that
 
 was it.
 

 I think they're referring to something like what I was given for the
   
 Trash
 
 Can, but not sure if there is something in 10.10 a3 for doing this.

 [Desktop Entry]

 Type=Application

 Version=1.0

 Name=Trash

 Name[de]=Mülleimer

 Exec=pcmanfm trash:///

 Icon=emptytrash

 Terminal=false

 OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;


 Save it as trash.desktop on the Desktop. The Desktop should then show a
 Trash icon.

 Right clicking and emptying trash does not work though.


   
 Same method I’m afraid, creating a .desktop file.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Update problem in 10.10 alpha 2

2010-07-30 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 30.07.2010 09:10, schrieb Duy Hùng Tra^`n:
 Hello everybody!

 I'm testing Lubuntu 10.10 alpha 2. When I log in, I get a message:

 *Update information*

 *Authentication issue*

 *Problem during package list update. The package list update failed with a
 authentication failure. This usually happens behind a network proxy server.
 Please try to click on the Run this action now button to correct the
 problem or update the list manually by running Update Manager and clicking
 on Check.*

 Then I click Run this action now and get this error:

 *Could not download all repository indexes

 The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because
 of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will
 be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network
 connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.

 Failed to fetch
 http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz404
 Not Found
 Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
 used instead*

 So I can't update in alpha 2. Is it a bug or temporary error?
   

Temporary as we trying to reach the ubuntu default repo and maverick
final won't need a Lubuntu PPA then.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How do I make a launcher?

2010-07-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 28.07.2010 11:11, schrieb Lee Gold:
 Hi,

 User question,

 Are there clear easy to follow instructions on how to make desktop launchers 
 in lubuntu? It should be easy but I could not do it even after Googling it. 
 Yes I can right click an existing app in the menu. But let's say I upgrade to 
 a new version before the repository has it  and manually install it. Then 
 how do I make a launcher? Right now I just start things from the terminal but 
 would prefer a clickable icon. How do I make a launcher?

 Thanks

   
You can find most launchers in /usr/share/applications. If you open up
one of those with a simple texteditor you will see the structure of an
*.desktop file. I think its easy to understand and to reproduce.
There is also an app avaiable called lxshortcut that allows you to
easily create such a desktop file.
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXShortCut
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] usb sound

2010-06-30 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 30.06.2010 06:17, schrieb Phillip Whiteside:
 Hi,
 
 has any one got either a set of usb speakers or usb head phones ?
 
 an OP on IRC could not get theirs to work, and not having a set I couldn't
 help. It will, no doubt, be some silly setting :-)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Phill.
 
 
 

I have a usb headset that I use to create my screencast. There is no
problem with this. The only thing I have to do to record properly is to
volume up  the recording volume in alsamixer - record.
The best is to check if volume is turned on not muted in alsamixer.


 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player

2010-06-23 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 23.06.2010 15:25, schrieb Glenn de Groot:
 
 Hello,
 found another interesting music player called Xnoise.It uses 4.5 mb of ram on 
 start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing 
 an mp3 (interesting decrease) and xnoise uses 5.7.
 It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays video´s 
 but it is aimed as a music player.
 website:
 http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/

Gstreamer is the problem here. A very big dependency. I am also against
mixing mplayer (+w32codec pack) for video with gstreamer apps for audio

 
 Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Changing PDF viewer by default

2010-06-20 Thread Leszek Lesner

Isn't Chromium getting native PDF support ?
Maybe we simply need to wait ;)


Am 20.06.2010 um 22:38 schrieb Yorvyk:


On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:05:14 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:


Hi,

Maybe you already noticed it, but epdfviewer (the default pdf viewer)
have a huge memory leak. See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epdfview/+bug/570410

It makes it quite unusable, and I don't know if it will be fixed in  
the

futur.

I propose to change it. I don't know many alternatives, except evince
and xpdf. Evince use a bit more memory, but xpdf don't have a good  
UI,

and use a lot of CPU on my testing system. So, for now I'll prefer to
use evince.

Any other ideas, and any feedbacks/comments are welcome :) It's  
open to

discussion.

Forgot about that.  Evince is far a far better option.  I’ve been  
using it on my 128KiB machine and as long as the PDF isn’t huge it  
is quite OK



--
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Changes planned for the seed

2010-06-17 Thread Leszek Lesner
There is a new XFCE4-Taskmanager version with much improvements.
As far as I know the lxtaskmanager is still based on the older version.

http://mmassonnet.blogspot.com/2010/06/major-changes-in-xfce-task-manager.html

Another topic (sry Julien did not send to the mailinglist just to you) :

What about the proxy GUI ?
As we don't have one right now(10.04), we should push that so that it
can get into the ubuntu repos for 10.10:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351433/lxproxy_0.1ubuntu3_all.deb

Its still an early version but seems to work quite good.


Am 17.06.2010 00:10, schrieb Julien Lavergne:
 Hi,
 
 I'll do some changes to the seed shortly :
 
 - Add a lubuntu-core package, which only install a minimum Lubuntu
 system.
 - Add update-notifier and update-manager, until we have a better
 solution.
 - Add xpad, a note program
 - Remove parcelite, pcmanfm now have a good support for copy/paste.
 - Remove pyneighborhood, pcmanfm has now gvfs support which should
 provide most features provided by pyneighborhood.
 - Replace xfce4-taskmanager by lxtask. It's more natural to have the
 LXDE one since it's available.
 
 Also, just a reminder : proposal for change in main applications need to
 be posted before 24 June. See the Roadmap [1].
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 
 [1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#Schedule
 
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 'Ask me' option in power management preferences doesn't not open the logout dialog

2010-05-27 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 26.05.2010 20:08, schrieb Zeraxeal:
 The thing is, power button (and suspend button for that matter) works as it
 should when the option is set to hibernate, shutdown or suspend. This
 problem only occurs when the option is set to 'Ask me'.
 
 Although editing openbox config file will definitely solve this problem,
 shouldn't we be able to have that option configurable in the power manager
 in the first place? Especially when all of the other options work as
 intended.

I think it needs a patch then for the power manager to detect lxde and
then choose the right dialog to show, when the power button is pressed.
It would be better to have an lxde specialized power manager.

 
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 
 Am 26.05.2010 17:08, schrieb Zeraxeal:
 Although the problem seems to be tied with gnome-power-manager, I'll post
 here since it is used as the default power manager.

 The default option for 'Action when power button is pressed' is 'Ask me',
 which usually brings out the logout dialog of GNOME desktop.
 However, this option does not do anything in Lubuntu - the LXDE logout
 dialog does not appear.

 The other options, such as hibernate, suspend and shutdown, work as they
 should, so I don't think the problem lies with the kernel or the power
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 For the powerbutton to do anything, capture the keycode with xev (run it
 in terminal and press the button, it will give you a keycode).
 With the keycode you can then link the appropiate key to the lxde-logout
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 'Ask me' option in power management preferences doesn't not open the logout dialog

2010-05-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 26.05.2010 17:08, schrieb Zeraxeal:
 Although the problem seems to be tied with gnome-power-manager, I'll post
 here since it is used as the default power manager.
 
 The default option for 'Action when power button is pressed' is 'Ask me',
 which usually brings out the logout dialog of GNOME desktop.
 However, this option does not do anything in Lubuntu - the LXDE logout
 dialog does not appear.
 
 The other options, such as hibernate, suspend and shutdown, work as they
 should, so I don't think the problem lies with the kernel or the power
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For the powerbutton to do anything, capture the keycode with xev (run it
in terminal and press the button, it will give you a keycode).
With the keycode you can then link the appropiate key to the lxde-logout
executable from within openbox configuration file.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] questions about lubuntu-10.04.iso

2010-05-24 Thread Leszek Lesner

Am 24.05.2010 07:06, schrieb rya...@mail.com:
How much GB of disk space(including swap) does a full install of 
lubuntu-10.04 use if installing from the lubuntu-10.04.iso CD? 2GB? 3GB?


Does lubuntu-10.04 include the HPLIP driver for HP printers? If so, 
what version of HPLIP is it? HPLIP 3.10.5?


Thanks


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If you have more then 1 GB RAM you don't neccessarly need a SWAP partition.
If you don't consider double the RAM size to use for SWAP.

Lubuntu uses about 1.5 GB of space right after installation. So the 
minimum space you need is 2 GB I would say.
I recommened 4 to 5 GB to have it running good and be able to install 
additional software + personal data.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxterminal

2010-05-24 Thread Leszek Lesner




Am 24.05.2010 13:09, schrieb 神癒礁湖  · Rafael Laguna:

  
  
Just a stupid question... why LXTerminal does not support drag and drop
from PCMan? (I mean files, f. ex.).
  

  




  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  




  

  
  

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Because it isn't implemented (for a while now) :P 
I noticed also drag and drop a file from desktop to firefox for example
does not work (tested some webm videos locally) 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 522031] Re: installer crashed lubuntu

2010-05-21 Thread Leszek Lesner

Am 21.05.2010 20:02, schrieb cxp:

Hello, I just heard about Lubunto. I've been using Xubunto at my Laptop Asus 
K50I [CPU Pent. T4400, HDD 320 GB, Ram 4GB, Nvidia GeForce GT 320 M].
I've downloaded Lubunto. Burned the image on a CD. Changed the Bios Config so 
it would boot from the CD. Then when it stars and say to Install Lubunto, it 
goes on, but stays for a long time on the screen with just the logo - lubunto 
and four/five dots of loading it...for ages...and there isn't almost any CD 
activity.
So I can't install it!?

   
Try to boot with fail safe mode. If it doesn't work try to boot without 
the splash option (hit F6 and delete the word splash). You should notice 
an error if something goes wrong.

And double check if the iso md5 sum is correct.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install

2010-05-12 Thread Leszek Lesner

Hi Phill,

if you in a desperate need of a minimal install cd I can build one. But 
how should it look like ? A ubuntu minimal CD with all the deb packages 
using debian installer ? Or a minimal LiveCD with only lxde as a desktop 
that allows you to install the system with a cli installer ?
The first one is a little pain of work. The second one not so much, as I 
already have a cli installer written for zevenos-neptune (debian based) 
that will also work flawessly on lubuntu if the dialog package is 
installed. And btw. I have build my own remastersys kind of tool 
called remaster-kit that also works flawlessly (yes I had bad 
experiences with remastersys)  with lubuntu (as long as you know 
something about cli and chroot usage). As it is a kind of dry topic. I 
made a small video showing both tools.
Here is the link: http://blip.tv/file/3612824 (Including a link for the 
source and deb)
All in all I would think making a 'real' minimal InstallCD might be a 
better solution as it supports more installation methods and special 
configurations for LVM and encryption.


Have fun ;)

Am 11.05.2010 23:03, schrieb Phillip Whiteside:

Hi Julien,

I know that you do not have time to make a minimal iso, however having 
chatted to some 'nice people' it appears that I (or anyone) should 
actually be able to do it. It's called remastersys and how it works is 
at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys I've no need to bore you 
with how it works, simply put - It takes your installed system and 
creates an iso with an md5 checksum.


Once you have (all) stopped laughing, according to the wiki entry 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys  You can make it CLI 
install. So, I'd follow the minimal install instructions onto a 
partition  then make the iso (in theory). Well, I'm willing to give 
it a try if you think it may be of help.


On a slightly different note, but to save me posting another email to 
you. I was asking ibuclaw about why the cd would fail self test, yet 
pass the other md5checksum test. Ibuclaw asked when you would be 
about, he was running through some stuff with me but it was way over 
my technical knowledge. He said that he could have a chat with you. As 
you know, Iain has already provided one patch to lubuntu (pcmanfm) and 
I count him as one of the 'nice people' I chat to on the 'official' 
ubuntu area.


If you keep an eye on ##ufbt you will be able to see if he is logged 
on (yes, I have been given permission for you to stalk him on there).


Regards,

Phill.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Congratulations

2010-05-03 Thread Leszek Lesner

Congrats.
Very nice and pretty release. I'm proud being a part of it ;)



Josef schrieb:
Yes to everybody and you.. Congratulations for getting the Lubuntu to 
the Final.
thanks for making Ubuntu with a LXDE flavor. And I am looking forward 
to next release.


On 5/3/2010 3:38 PM, Steve wrote:

Congratulations to everybody involved in getting Lubuntu to a 'Final'
release.  Plenty of people downloading via torrent. Lets hope it
attracts a few more helpers.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Quicktime not working

2010-04-25 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Sonntag, 25. April 2010 22:19:46 schrieb Steve:
 Hosoka and myself have been trying to get Quicktime to work with no
 success.  It works on Chromium with Ubuntu but not on Lubuntu.  We have
 w32codecs installed along with restricted extras and the Chromium extra
 package. Anybody any ideas?

Apple has changed the Quicktime sites (especially the trailers) to only accept 
clients which are sending the right quicktime id (version string). I wrote a 
little shell script to fix the quicktime support for zevenos a few weeks ago. 
Its simply a call for mplayer + the right version string. So if you want to 
play a quicktime trailer go to the trailers site, copy the link to the mov or 
mp4 file, open up a terminal type in sh /path/to/script/quicktime and paste in 
the url (sometimes you need to shorten out the width and heigths added after 
the mov video url) . It works very well, also with the quicktime keynote 
streams. (udp over http is enabled for them to work) 
Ubuntu uses gstreamer and the totem plugin to make it work. Obviously they 
included a patch for this. The mplayerplugin needs to be patched to make it 
work again inside the browser. So not really a fix for now, just a work 
around. 


quicktime
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Leszek Lesner

PCMan schrieb:

This makes sense.
Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule.
Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry.
Another benefit for the delay I found:
After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is
predictable.
So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make
a more stable release, isn't it?.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerbjo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  wrote:
   

i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCManpcman...@gmail.com
 

Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
git since there are some important fixes.
It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
things are going to be improved.
In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
to support them and provide better user experience.

In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
to test new features.
Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
environment.
So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
release a buggy one.
Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

Cheers!

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Agreed. My experience especially with ZevenOS releases shows me that 
aprox. 1 month after Ubuntu release is a good time to release a ubuntu 
based distro as almost every critical bug has been fixed till then.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Screencasts

2010-03-30 Thread Leszek Lesner
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:08:23 +0100
Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 here are 3 little test videos:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAS1kJ2adiU   
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5zlhq8-l4
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNckuRGu8yY
 
 Have fun ;)
 
 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:34:09 +0100
 Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  
  Am 01.03.2010 um 18:42 schrieb Sylkis syl...@gmail.com:
  
   maybe a promt that automatically launches after loading live session,
   saying that this is a live session :), what are the consequences of
   that (efficiency worse than on regular install, loss of settings each
   boot, etc - but being able to look around the system without any
   changes on computer) and that the tutorial and installation process
   may be launched by clicking the specific icon placed on desktop?
  
  
  
  That would Be okay and useful. We should add that.
   2010/3/1 Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
   On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:44:15 -, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de 
   
   wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   what about small short screen-cast tutorials about lubuntu ?
   e.g.
  -Showing the installation process
  -Basic Desktop
  -Basic File management
  -...
  
   What do you think about this idea ? Maybe (if we have enough space  
   left)
   we can also pack some of this videos directly onto the livecd ?
  
   I think that might not be a bad idea, as long as they are kept
   short-and-sweet.
   An icon on the desktop 'About Lubuntu' or something?
  
aren't there some tutorials on the ubuntu livecd? I never watched  
  them. And I think many people also don't watch them cause they first  
  want to try if they find everything without help. 10 mb more to  
  download makes a really long time with a slow Internet connection.
  But anyway, we should make these tutorials: if the others vote for  
  including them, we should include them - but I could also imagine a  
  special startpage for chromium that has a big button new to lubuntu?  
  and links to these tutorials, some wikis and so on. Like that,  
  everyone could decide whether to use the help. Best regards, Jo.
  
  
  

Here a few new screencasts of Lubuntu showing some of the default apps in 
Lubuntu. 
I intended to keep this screencasts short for the sake of beginners and 
switchers.
All the screencasts were created with free software and edited with OpenShot 
video editor. 

http://blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/206798 (RSS Feed, needs a feedreader)
The Videos in the RSS Feed should also be downloadable with Aqualung. But it 
will download all of them :) 


Have fun ;)

Leszek


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new menu item in lubuntu

2010-03-24 Thread Leszek Lesner
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:54:52 +0100
Zoltan Matlak matlakz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it is an LXDE related question, but did not know where to post
 it. I installed mc, then I would like to create a menu item in the
 Main Menu, to launch mc in a terminal windw, without going to
 lxterminal and type mc. Unfortunately could not make it work. Got
 stuck. Does anybody have an idea how to do it (if it can be done)?
 
 I created a new file, called mc.desktop under /usr/share/applications,
 whick looks like:
 
 [Desktop Entry]
 Name=Midnight Commander filemanager
 GenericName=mc filemanager
 _X-GNOME-FullName=MidnightCommander
 Comment=blabla
 Exec=lxterminal mc
 Icon=mc
 Terminal=true
 Type=Application
 Categories=Development;
 StartupNotify=false
 X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=mc
 
 Tried different variation for Exec, just to put mc, or lxterminal
 mc, also Terminal true/false, but all variations I could think of
 failed..
 
 Thanks
 Zoltan
 
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Hi,

if xterm is installed xterm -e mc should work as command. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Other things to do with a Lubuntu installation

2010-03-22 Thread Leszek Lesner
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:10:43 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le dimanche 21 mars 2010 à 21:56 +, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
  I know that lubuntu's primary target group is low-spec computers, but
  it is such a lovely low resource hungry distro, I suggest that we also
  include a little 'something' to
  let people know that it is a 'full' distro.
 I prefer to focus on the main goal of Lubuntu for now, we don't have a
 big team, and the goal of Lubuntu is clearly not to be used for all the
 uses cases covered by Ubuntu. We don't have enough people to do this.
 
 
  An example is mine, and a couple of others, using it as a great GUI
  for a server (We're running LAMP).
  
  
  As to some of the other things it can do, and do well, earlier we had
  a new lubuntu'eer on #lubuntu asking about configuring up a dual
  monitor system off their laptop.
  It was painless, once I found a nice easy
  'How-To' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849197
  
  
  Most laptops have an external monitor plug on them, and a lot of them
  can stretch to dual display.
  
  
  It took all of about 5 minutes, the result looks pretty good
  -- http://i44.tinypic.com/2u8uikz.png
  
  
  crazysoldier has said it is quite okay to use the screen-shot to show
  just how good  easy Lubuntu is.
 Managing dual screen is a pain, because it depends on the drivers you
 use. If you use a driver which use randr, a tool like the one in Ubuntu
 should work. But for nvidia or ati users using the binary blob, it will
 not work. There is no universal solution, even for Ubuntu.
Knoppix (based on LXDE) has a modified Xrandr with 3 easy buttons to either 
choose to have both screens cloningmode on, screen 0 on only or screen 1 on 
only. The advanced Tab looks like the one we ship now. 
From the usability point of view this would be a better solution as we ship 
now. 
From the technical point of view: This will work out of the box with , intel, 
ati  nvidia cards (all using the opensource drivers , nvidia the new nouveau 
one). 
We should ship this one, if we find the source. I cannot find it on the knoppix 
repo. I guess it might be even a official lxrandr patch. 

 
  Another lubunteer, cousteau, has a patch for laptops so you can use
  the Fn key for the numeric keyboard that lives amongst the 789uiojklm
  keys without doing Fn-NumLock, it's a real small script that runs on
  startup if installed.
 If it's working, it's not something that should be Lubuntu specific. And
 it should be something in the configuration tool, not running by some
 script at startup.
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 
 
Multimediakeys should be supported. This are 3 lines of code in .Xmodmap in 
/etc/skel. This is really no pain in the ass. 
 
 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback Lubuntu Lucid Beta 1 Logo

2010-03-19 Thread Leszek Lesner
Hi, 

I tested the first beta and I am pretty impressed. I tested it on real hardware 
booting from liveusb stick. It was amazingly fast. Only a few seconds to boot. 
This is really a record for linux systems. 
PCManFM2 seems to work fine. I only encounterd some minor bugs. 

1. No default Terminal emulator is set in PCManFM2. We should set this to 
lxterminal
2. Ejecting USB Sticks from within PCManFM2 does not seem to work. (Tested with 
3 SanDisk U3 Sticks, they have 2 partitions 1 FAT32 Data, and a virtual CD-ROM 
drive partition. I only mounted the FAT32 Data partition, though pcmanfm2 asked 
me to mount both.)
3. The dialog to open a newly inserted media shows up on the virtual desktop 
where there is a opened filemanager. Trying to switch to desktop inserting usb 
stick results that it automatically switches to desktop 1 and shows the media 
dialog there. (I think its a bug, cause its annoying and killing my workflow, 
as if you choose to open up the newly insert media it won't show up in the 
opened filemanager window, but opens up a second window. So it absolutely does 
not make sense to switch the desktop to show the dialog.) 
4. Copying Linked folders(symlink to folder, that contains files) in pcmanfm2 
should copy them as symlinks and not as files I think. 

This are the first test results so far. 
All in all a very nice improvement. And btw. very nice work on the artwork to 
fit the ubuntu new brand ;) 

Greetings
Leszek


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] restricted-extras

2010-03-15 Thread Leszek Lesner


M. Daub schrieb:

Hello *,

for the other ubuntu's there are restricted-extras-packages.
Which is most suitable for lubuntu or will be there also a lubuntu-restricted-
extras-package in the future?

Kind regards
Marcus

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There is currently no restriction package. You need to install 
w32codecs(medibuntu) and libxine1-all-plugins manually for codec support.

Flashplayer should be in flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugin-installer.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] restricted-extras

2010-03-15 Thread Leszek Lesner

Andrew Woodhead schrieb:
As Lubuntu uses gstreamer like Ubuntu just use 
ubuntu-resricted-extras. kde uses something different so has its own 
thing, i believe xubuntu-restricted extras is the same as 
ubuntu-restricted-extras. Just need to copy the package and rename t 
on the repo afaics ;)


Just my 2p worth
-Andy

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de 
mailto:leszek.les...@web.de wrote:



M. Daub schrieb:

Hello *,

for the other ubuntu's there are restricted-extras-packages.
Which is most suitable for lubuntu or will be there also a
lubuntu-restricted-
extras-package in the future?

Kind regards
Marcus

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There is currently no restriction package. You need to install
w32codecs(medibuntu) and libxine1-all-plugins manually for codec
support.
Flashplayer should be in flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugin-installer.

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Lubuntu uses Gstreamer ?? Thats new to me. Gnome-Mplayer is using mplayer !

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Location of Window control buttons

2010-03-13 Thread Leszek Lesner
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:10:58 +0800
PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 My personal opinion: No, and never!
 This is the worst move of ubuntu.
 Having ok/cancel buttons in opposite direction is bad enough already.
 For whatever reason, deliberately being different from 95% of
 worldwide computer users is quite unwise.
It wouldn't be so bad if they sticked to one standard.(Close|Minmize|Maximize) 
But instead they are doing it completely different. That close button left of 
all the other buttons with a left button layout xD. 
What weed did they smoke ?


 
 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.com 
 wrote:
  For whatever reason, Ubuntu has moved the control buttons from the right
  hand side, to the left hand side.
  This has not pleased everyone
  -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422422
  Is Lubuntu going to follow the new methodology ?
  Regards,
  Phill.
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