[BAROQUE-LUTE] Dubut sarabande and double

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Looking through a newly released baroque lute MS [1]http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB78A3 I found a really charming sarabande and double by Dubut: [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwSgtAX-g2M Danny -- References 1.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Who wrote the ms. D-Bsa4060? And when?

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Roman, the 1945 history is now somehow cleared, and also Wikipedia tells much of the Singakademie. But who copied - penned - the ms. D-Bsa4060? The style of writing the tabulature and also the line of the pen is something that I have not found in the genuine 17th century mss. As I

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-29 Thread David Tayler
The planting is an interesting topic which one could discuss from many angles, however, the essence here is that if youplant the finger, you stop it from vibrating. So for legato playing, one must drive through or use a combination of set and drive through. There are times when some

[LUTE] Lute crossover - Luthomania

2012-04-29 Thread Bernd Haegemann
with the Belgian lute master Philippe Malfeyt on theorbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKhH5LGcza4feature=fvwrel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lundberg's contribution to lutemaking in the age of Galileo

2012-04-29 Thread David van Ooijen
All, Franz already made a version available (Danke Franz, and I really enjoyed our chat, it gave me so much food for thought), but maybe not quite mailable. I made a 2.5Mb scan, available to those who want to see what's waiting for them after their planned trek to the library or bookshop. Mail

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes

2012-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
We posted this yesterday but something was amiss with the transmission. __ From: praelu...@hotmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Saturday morning quotes Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:02:25 + We

[LUTE] Ballard Vallet

2012-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
Mignarda Editions is pleased to announce availability of Angelique: Selected Lute Solos by Robert Ballard Nicolas Vallet, a new performing edition of selected lute solos by Robert Ballard and Nicolas Vallet. The entirely new collection consists of some of the best music by both

[LUTE] Agenda 2nd try

2012-04-29 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Agenda Belgium Datum: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:00:16 +0200 Von: Bernd Haegemann [1]b...@symbol4.de Kopie (CC): [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu I have added 9 items to our agenda for may:

[LUTE] Re: Lundberg's contribution to lutemaking in the age of Galileo

2012-04-29 Thread Franz Mechsner
Hi All, Many apologies - I tried in vein to send the Lundberg file to those interested, but it did not work. I intended to have another try, but thanks David for your offer. I'll send you the list of people who asked me for the file. Best Franz

[LUTE] Re: Lundberg's contribution to lutemaking in the age of Galileo

2012-04-29 Thread Eugene Kurenko
Many thanks to Franz and David. I'm in waiting list. Eugene 2012/4/29 Franz Mechsner [1]franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk Hi All, Many apologies - I tried in vein to send the Lundberg file to those interested, but it did not work. I intended to have another try,

[LUTE] Zamboni re-tubed...

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, just in case our List will come alive again: I re-recorded some Zamboni when warming up my 10-course Vieil Accord playing - a tiny gig is coming. My tube explanation of the Preludio, Sarabanda Largo and Gavotta Allegro is: These pieces of the Sonata 9 by Giovanni Zamboni

[LUTE] Saturday morning quotes

2012-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this week from Count Bardi. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-nF Ron Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-nF To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Saturday morning quotes

2012-04-29 Thread Ron Andrico
We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this week from Count Bardi. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-nF Ron Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-nF To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Found a unique sarabande and double by Dubut that was so charming, I just had to record it: http://youtu.be/rwSgtAX-g2M Danny On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, I have no idea if this is new: MS 4060 (750 pages) is on-line. See

[LUTE] Autumn Waltz (Howard Skempton 1976)

2012-04-29 Thread Stuart Walsh
This is a tiny piece, about one minute, originally for two baritone horns (whatever they are). It's just simple two-part music and it fits on a lute very well. Howard Skempton is usually classified as an 'experimental' composer but this little piece just uses simple musical phrases and no

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-29 Thread Edward Mast
Thank you, David, for your detailed suggestions regarding string spacing, and also for your very fine HD video of the Milan piece. As you say, ten minutes with a good teacher could resolve many technique issues for many of us. But for various reasons, many of us don't have ready access to a

[LUTE] Re: Bach¹s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Braig, Eugene
..And I have nothing more to add other than I also agree with all you've said, Joseph. Pluckers are good folk. Cheers! Eugene -Original Message- From: Mayes, Joseph [mailto:ma...@rowan.edu] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:09 AM To: Braig, Eugene; lute Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Bach¹s

[LUTE] Re: Bach¹s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Mayes, Joseph
Greetings Eugene I agree with about all you've said - I would add some what I think are cogent factoids: Take the fifth 'cello suite. The music requires a scordatura, it has not survived in Bach's hand, and it was lost for hundreds of years. People have no trouble calling it a 'cello suite.

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread wikla
New try. I sent this already yesterday, but it has not appeared. Sorry if this becomes a double: - Very interesting and huge ms.! Thanks all involved! Eagerly waiting also the intro by

[LUTE] Re: Lundberg's contribution to lutemaking in the age of Galileo

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Lots of great options for sharing files now: 1) Join lutegroup.ning.com and upload in the tablature forum 2) Join Dropbox and put the file in your public folder: http://db.tt/idH3MHl (use this link and get an extra 0.5 GB storage) 3) Join Google Drive (just unveiled this week so no guarantee on

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread Jarosław Lipski
It was a reply to David's post (below). Notice that he mentions sharing costs which is definately reasonable. Photocopying is a work which has to be paid, however I have a feeling that sooner or later probably most of interesting manuscripts will be digitalised. We only discuss how it could be

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Exactly. BTW, a recent (2009) must-read on the topic is David Ledbetters Unaccompanied Bach (Yale University Press), which includes studies on the violin, cello and lute/Lautenwerk works. Regards Stephan Am 26.04.2012, 21:06 Uhr, schrieb Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl:

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Very interesting and huge ms.! Thanks all involved! Eagerly waiting also the intro by François-Pierre Goy in the Tree edition to come. Before that proper analysis, it would be very interesting to hear at least something of the history of that ms. -- the 17th century history and also the

[LUTE] RE: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Braig, Eugene
I wholeheartedly agree, jl. Fortunately, I don't believe the little article discussed here did make any such definitive statements. I think it did a fair job of presenting evidence with relative objectivity. Eugene From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
Arto, Singacademie was in Berlin, and it was instrumental in preservation of JSB's works and reputation, when it was led by C.F.Zelter and Mendelssohn. Its archive was taken to Kiev as war booty, and stored at the conservatory. The archive survived intact, unlike the collection of Lubeck

[LUTE] Re: Lute crossover - Luthomania

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Bernd Haegemann wrote: with the Belgian lute master Philippe Malfeyt on theorbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKhH5LGcza4feature=fvwrel This one is interesting too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvUfeature=related -- To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Robert Ballard, 2nd book - CNRS edition

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear List, first of all I'd like to thank you all members who got back to me about Robert Lundberg contribution: not only they have been very kind, but confirmed the fact that this list is an invaluable resource for every lutenist and/or lute maniac. For this reason, I hope

[LUTE] Re: Autumn Waltz (Howard Skempton 1976)

2012-04-29 Thread Guy Smith
Short for baritone saxhorn (not saxophone, which is a reed instrument), one of the many brass instruments invented by Adolph Sax. It's similar to a euphonium (the bore is a little different) and has the same range as a Bb trombone. In the US (at least), they are used almost exclusively in marching

[LUTE] Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Eugene, Well, saying that the evidence would be that Bach did not write any music specifically intended for solo lute sounds to me (do correct me if I'm wrong) a little bit like a definite statement or a final argument, doesn't it? There is nothing wrong in having doubts and expressing them

[LUTE] Selling a guitar

2012-04-29 Thread Stewart McCoy
A friend of mine is trying to sell a 4-course renaissance guitar. I suggested he try Wayne's site at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html . Are there any other websites - lute, guitar, ukulele - where instruments can be advertised for sale? Any help much

[LUTE] Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
Yes, but - sometimes we have to give up the musicological mumbo-jumbo, and just call a spade a spade. RT - Original Message - From: Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth

[LUTE] Re: Selling a guitar

2012-04-29 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Am 29.04.2012 22:27, schrieb Stewart McCoy: A friend of mine is trying to sell a 4-course renaissance guitar. I suggested he try Wayne's site at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html . Are there any other websites - lute, guitar, ukulele - where instruments can be

[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Jarosław Lipski
but in this case a spade is not a spade :) JL Wiadomość napisana przez Roman Turovsky w dniu 29 kwi 2012, o godz. 22:32: Yes, but - sometimes we have to give up the musicological mumbo-jumbo, and just call a spade a spade. RT - Original Message - From: Jarosław Lipski

[LUTE] Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
a geetar then. Phrases like there is some likelihood that item X might very well could have been item Y may work in some musicological situations, but not in the case of our Lute Suites. RT - Original Message - From: Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Roman, I do not share your dislike for musicology. It pays really big service to all of us I suppose. It has its rules and trespassing them creates the effect you are talking about. I am just saying that the available evidence on so called Lute Suites does not entitle us to make very definite

[LUTE] Emperor Rudolf II

2012-04-29 Thread theoj89294
Holy Roman Emperor Rudolf II from Bohemia (ca late 1500s -1612?), was such a patron of the arts and sciences, did he sponsor any significant lutenist/composers? Are there collections (Mss, books) from this era during his reign? It seems like Bohemia, esp Prague, under Rudolf II was a very

[LUTE] Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
Jarek, I thinks the available evidence pretty much points where Clive thinks it does, and I am inclined to agree with him, notwithstanding Vasily Antipov, an excellent Russian player who actually can perform Lute Suites as written (he knows no technical difficulties). The Lute Suites are simply