My suspicion would be that the nails Sor heard were just not prepared well.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Classical Guitarist/Lutenist
> On May 8, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Antonio Corona wrote:
>
> Sor's words:
> Never in my life have I heard a guitarist whose playing was
> supportable, if he
Sor's words:
Never in my life have I heard a guitarist whose playing was
supportable, if he played with the nails. The nails can produce but
very few gradations in the quality of the sound: the piano passages can
never be singing, nor the fortes sufficiently full. Their performance
Thanks Roland! I wasn't trying to be contrarian when I recorded the
album. I had a lot of classical guitar gigs at the time, so I just kept
the nails for the recording session. I knew of historical sources that
mention playing with nails, so figured "I'm allowed to do this,
right?".
Now that's what i'm talking about! Great sounding nails. How
politically incorrect these days!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:59:35 PM
To: Christopher Wilke
You haven't read the whole passage.
> On 08 May 2019 at 20:13 Ralf Mattes wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 08. Mai 2019 20:00 CEST, Monica Hall
> schrieb:
>
> >The relevant passage reads as follows. Feel free to correct the
> >translation.
> >
> >Recently the world-famous
Am Mittwoch, 08. Mai 2019 20:00 CEST, Monica Hall
schrieb:
>The relevant passage reads as follows. Feel free to correct the
>translation.
>
>Recently the world-famous guitarist, Corbetta, who taught all the
>Potentates of Europe, came here [to Turin] from England. But
The relevant passage reads as follows. Feel free to correct the
translation.
Recently the world-famous guitarist, Corbetta, who taught all the
Potentates of Europe, came here [to Turin] from England. But because
he had the misfortune to break a fingernail (and with old folk
Sor reportedly used a nail on his thumb, for special effect, after meeting
Aguado, who did play with nails.
> On May 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
> Fernando Sor.
> RT
>
>
> On 5/8/2019 9:35 AM, magnus andersson wrote:
>>Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or
Peripherally related, and speaking of Burwell and nails…
..the Burwell informant tells us that during the spectacle of performance
attention is drawn to the hands, which should be kept clean, with the nails
free of any “black velvet.” Of course this is a reference to left-hand nails,
with
Piccinini and Mary Burwell's teacher are quite clear about this !
Best,
Jean-Marie
Le 08/05/2019 à 15:35, magnus andersson a écrit :
Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo player who
explicitly played without fingernails?
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Well, that's not the point I was making. Which is that, even if some
theorbo players employed nails (or didn't), we cannot draw the
unequivocal conclusion that the period guitar was therefore also played
with nails. And, in particular, that this was the practice that De
Visee
It sounds sumpin' like this:
[1]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2a8IQiXH0=OLAK5uy_k-OxLE7w5P5Fx
bDhFpl82dnQRVDnvHVFo=24
The entire album was recorded with nails, in the naivite of my youth
before I realized that HIP means "What's Allowable Now."
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Fernando Sor.
RT
On 5/8/2019 9:35 AM, magnus andersson wrote:
Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo player who
explicitly played without fingernails?
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Den onsdag, maj 8, 2019, 3:20 em, skrev Martyn Hodgson
:
Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo player who
explicitly played without fingernails?
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Den onsdag, maj 8, 2019, 3:20 em, skrev Martyn Hodgson
:
Hear! hear!.
And just because some theorbo players used
Hear! hear!.
And just because some theorbo players used nails by no means that De
Visee did. This is, of course, how modern myths start
Martyn
On Wednesday, 8 May 2019, 11:09:58 BST, Monica Hall
wrote:
Corbetta didn't have to pay his musicians out of his own
Am Mittwoch, 08. Mai 2019 10:04 CEST, magnus andersson
schrieb:
>Dear Monica, you ´re right-
>Francesco seems to have been the scheduled star musician of the
>evening. At
>the banquet, an ensemble consisting of lutes, theorboes, angeliques and
>guitars was
>heard,
Am Mittwoch, 08. Mai 2019 09:40 CEST, Monica Hall
schrieb:
> Corbetta didn't have to pay his musicians out of his own pocket - that's just
> another myth.
Sorry, but that's nit what Ebert is writing. To qoute:
"... und dieselbe nachmals aus seinem Beutel auszahlen müssen."
"Dieselbe"
Should be 1724...
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Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: De Visee
The 'myth' is probably based on Ebert's Vermehrte Reise Beschreibung
That sounds very exciting.
How is it that we seldom experience such delight on an album?
I frequently encounter descriptions of music that is never recreated in
the same way.
I remember a CD with lute orchestra from BIS records, and Rolf Lislevand
has done some stuff that goes into the
The 'myth' is probably based on Ebert's Vermehrte Reise Beschreibung (1674):
https://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/id/PPN518447235?tify={%22pages%22:[311],%22view%22:%22info%22}
Lex
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I was always wondering where this story comes from - thank you Magnus!
By the way, you can buy the book here:
https://www.zvab.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=19245595719=hl%3Don%26tn%3Dauli%2Bapronii%2Bvermehrte%2Breise%26sortby%3D20%26an%3Debert
..and if that's to expensive, you can download it
Just another idea about the nail issue: wouldn't it be possible for them
instead of polishing to apply something on their nails to make them smooth,
like fat, glue (animal glue gets quite hard when its dry) or something else?
There are also some modern lute and guitar players who put a bit of
Dear Monica, you ´re right-
Francesco seems to have been the scheduled star musician of the
evening. At
the banquet, an ensemble consisting of lutes, theorboes, angeliques and
guitars was
heard, and Francesco was probably thought of as the icing on the
cake...
Here is the
Corbetta didn't have to pay his musicians out of his own pocket - that's just
another myth. The relevant source states that
Every foreign musician who performed at court in Turin was given 500 Thlr. and
Madame Royale wished to show her generosity by not withholding anything [from
Signor
I play with with nails, and a video of me playing can be found at the
link below, with more to follow on YouTube soon. I hope this goes some
way to satisfying your curiosity, and criticism (preferably
constructive!) is welcome.
[1]https://youtu.be/msh4dbjLl0k
Toby
On Wed, 8
Very similar to what Segovia used, and certainly about the best there
was mid-20th century, but no comparison to 1500 grit 3M silicon carbide
papers.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
On May 7, 2019, at 2:57 PM, M Del <[1]terli...@aol.com> wrote:
My first guitar teacher Rolando
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