Hi Ned,
here my daily letter, probably the last. I once had similar questions
and no one to discuss or ask, so perhaps I've written too much. Take it
for good will.
You wrote :
But I still wonder if, using thumb out, there isn't more of a
temptation to do this; namely, play
See Nigel North.
I've never seen any modern player do real thumb-out technique.
Most people, even the big guys, do as Jan does in the video: a sort
of half thumb that is neither in or out, but is more closely
related to thumb-under in terms of technique and tone.
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To get on or off
I will send this again, with better links
Dear Ed and Chris
I have recently been trying to use the position suggested by
Mace (little finger behind the bridge, see note 2 below) with the
hope of improving my finger technique, similar to this:
http://tinyurl.com/log972
as also shown
/09, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com wrote:
From: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jan Gruter's technique
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, nedma...@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:32 AM
Hello, Chris!
This is an interesting thread. There actually
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Daniel Winheld
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:29 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jan Gruter's technique
See Nigel North.
I've never seen any modern player do real thumb-out technique.
Most people, even the big guys, do as Jan does
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Behalf Of chriswi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:38 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; nedma...@aol.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jan Gruter's technique
Ned,
I've never seen
: Edward Martin
e...@gamutstrings.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jan Gruter's technique
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, nedma...@aol.com Date: Wednesday,
September 16, 2009, 12:32 AM Hello, Chris! This is an
interesting thread. There actually are a few modern players who
use the true thumb out technique
On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:22 AM, [1]nedma...@aol.com wrote:
I rather wonder if the
difficulties imposed by thumb under technique in dealing with
trebles
and basses together isn't actually an advantage in leading the
player
to finding the true character of
What difficulty? (Ed asks about my reference to thumb-under
technique). Perhaps my understanding of this technique is incorrect.
But, I think of it as implying the use of p-i for running lines
whenever possible.
I think of thumb-over as allowing use of m-i whenever desired. So, I
On Sep 15, 2009, at 7:43 AM, nedma...@aol.com wrote:
I think of thumb-over as allowing use of m-i whenever desired.
So, I
think of the person useing thumb over technique as using m-i
more than
the person using thumb under - at least whenever bass notes are
present
along with
Thanks for your reply, Howard. I obviously need to look into the
differences between these two right hand positions more (though, as
someone pointed out, there are really more positions than just these
two). But, I am making a basic assumption (based upon a limited amount
of
On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:43 AM, nedma...@aol.com wrote:
But, I am making a basic assumption (based upon a limited amount of
reading) that a style of thumb-under technique was in general use
before a style of thumb-over technique evolved and became also
generally used. Also, that this later
Thanks again, Howard. Actually knowing history is obviously more
useful than making assumptions about it! I appreciate your making me
aware of the Spanish connection and migration. That a certain style of
playing is more comfortable than another seems to me sufficient reason
to
acknowledged. Iconographic
sources tell the same story: both techniques coexisted.
Best wishes,
Antonio
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From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
To: Lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, 15 September, 2009 15:15:44
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jan Gruter's
On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Antonio Corona wrote:
Dear Howard,
What is the source for the theory that in Spain and its areas of
influence thumb-out was the norm?
I suppose, since I already wrote
I've long since forgotten the evidence for the
south-to-north migration theory, BTW.
Ned,
I've never seen any modern player do real thumb-out technique. Most
people, even the big guys, do as Jan does in the video: a sort of half thumb
that is neither in or out, but is more closely related to thumb-under in terms
of technique and tone. This, in spite of the fact that
Hello, Chris!
This is an interesting thread. There actually are a few modern
players who use the true thumb out technique, as you describe. One
that immediately comes to mind is Toyohiko Satoh. Toyohiko
demonstrated this at the LSA seminar in Cleveland in 2006. He also
has 2 recordings
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