[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-07-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:50 PM 6/28/2008, LGS-Europe wrote: I'm just an occasional dabbler in plectrum technique and I'm getting really confused! Two related things are bothering me - which end of the damned feather to use, and (difficult to phrase this one), wobbly or stiff? A guitar string (or presumably a

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-07-01 Thread LGS-Europe
I found these pictures and text explaining how to split a feather and make one of the resulting halves of the tip (the bit stuck into the bird) into a plectrum, much like a pen, very instructive:

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-07-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Not at all, David. I shouldn't be given any credit for work Alex has done. Carry on and enjoy. I do have Alex's little book. It's very useful for those of us with an interest in baroque-era mandolins. I think you may be able to order it directly from him:

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 8, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Ed Durbrow wrote: Crawford Young uses a guitar string as a plectrum. Any more details on this? Stuart Not too much to add. You just take the feathers off of the part on the end that hits the strings. He leaves a little bit of feather on

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread bill kilpatrick
Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? To: Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED], LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 28 June, 2008, 8:59 AM On Jun 8, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Ed Durbrow wrote: Crawford Young uses a guitar string

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2008-06-28 Thread bill kilpatrick
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[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread Peedu Timo
one about 20 years ago and I still have some feathers to go. Happy picking, Timo Lähettäjä: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lähetetty: la 28.6.2008 9:59 Vastaanottaja: Stuart Walsh; LuteNet list Aihe: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? On Jun 8

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread Stuart Walsh
be wholly different. Stuart Lähettäjä: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lähetetty: la 28.6.2008 9:59 Vastaanottaja: Stuart Walsh; LuteNet list Aihe: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? On Jun 8, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Ed Durbrow wrote

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread LGS-Europe
I'm just an occasional dabbler in plectrum technique and I'm getting really confused! Two related things are bothering me - which end of the damned feather to use, and (difficult to phrase this one), wobbly or stiff? A guitar string (or presumably a lute string) or the thin end of a feather

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread Gernot Hilger
On 28.06.2008, at 23:50, LGS-Europe wrote: Cow's horn is also on my list, but I cannot think of a dish yet. That one is easy. Just keep the horns for plectra and eat the rest of the cow. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: which end of the damned feather to use, and (difficult to phrase this one), wobbly or stiff? Crawford uses the thin end of a strong feather. Peedu explained the details very well I thought. I have only tried this with feathers I've found

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-08 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008 8:39 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: My

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Ed Durbrow
Crawford Young uses a guitar string as a plectrum. He tells how to use an eagle feather by stripping off the feather part. That is, using the thinner end of the feather (sic). That part being round and has the advantage of being flexible in any direction. On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:57 AM,

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread LGS-Europe
David T. wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. First iron, or first split the feather? Feather of what bird? Do you use the tip or the end of the feather? Quill sounds like tip to me. There are a number of other materials you can use, including thin strips of

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread David Tayler
If you smell burning feathers, it is too hot. (Sounds like a Breugel painting) You can put a little hot glue inside as well to make kind of a turkey melt. Since there are so many harpsichords in the house, I avail myself of the different materials from time to time. The Delrin and Celcon come

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:45 AM 6/6/2008, David Tayler wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. I prefer a slightly rounded tip. It's the only thing I iron, really. My experiences with ironing goose quill, at least a split quill, have not been good. Perhaps other bird quills are

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Guy Smith
that they could just give you. Guy -Original Message- From: LGS-Europe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:04 PM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? David T. wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. First

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread demery
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008, Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can find Delrin at most plastics supply companies. I used to use it occasionally to machine parts for lab apparatus. It's one of the easiest plastics to work with, except for gluing (it's a close relative of Teflon, but a lot harder).

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Stuart Walsh
Ed Durbrow wrote: Crawford Young uses a guitar string as a plectrum. Any more details on this? Stuart He tells how to use an eagle feather by stripping off the feather part. That is, using the thinner end of the feather (sic). That part being round and has the advantage of being

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Guy Smith
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:49 PM To: 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu' Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? On Sat, Jun 7, 2008, Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can find Delrin at most plastics supply companies. I used to use

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread R. Mattes
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:01:10 +0100, Stuart Walsh wrote Ed Durbrow wrote: Crawford Young uses a guitar string as a plectrum. Any more details on this? Back in the 80/90s he used to play with an ostrich feather. Getting those not dyed, flexible and without any nodules is kind of hard, so

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread howard posner
On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: My experiences with ironing goose quill, at least a split quill, have not been good. Maybe you should try removing it from the goose first. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread Doc Rossi
-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make? David T. wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. First iron, or first split the feather? Feather of what bird? Do you use the tip or the end of the feather? Quill sounds like tip to me

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-06 Thread Doc Rossi
Do you put anything between the quill and the iron? What temperature do you use On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:45 AM, David Tayler wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. I prefer a slightly rounded tip. It's the only thing I iron, really. You can also cut a piece of

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-06 Thread Doc Rossi
From the Wikipedia article on Delrin: Delrin has also recently found use in the manufacturing of Irish flutes (traditionally made of wood), tin whistles (traditionally made of metal), and bagpipes (traditionally made of wood). Delrin flutes sound similar or identical to wooden flutes, but

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:57 PM 6/5/2008, LGS-Europe wrote: How do people make their (medieval) plectra? I have chopped up and sanded down some turkey feathers, different techniques, different thickness/stiffnes, but I'm only half convinced of the sound. Advice much appreciated. David - To be honest, I still like

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread LGS-Europe
Eugène wrote: I have used goose quill prepared following this procedure: http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=263874652887a855b1a3a0ff8f6a6f14;act=ST;f=6;t=15088 .. etc. I have found excellent and consistent results using a particular model of Bic pen:

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread David Tayler
I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. I prefer a slightly rounded tip. It's the only thing I iron, really. You can also cut a piece of delrin and glue it to the feather, in that case, you need not iron it. It is sort of permanent press. There are a number of other