[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread David Tayler
Re Rooley/Unrooley When I first starting recording in the 70s, there was a realism movement (Direct Metal Mastering, and so on--yikes) People wanted the real sound. Now, no one wants the real sound. All recordings are processed by limiters, spectral enhancers, convolvers, acoustic modeling,

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Chris Bolton
In this current discussion, you (Bruno) were the only one to have been at the concert so you have every right to your perceptions. Your perception of the experience is yours and yours alone. Right or Wrong. Tuning your ears to a lute recital is something that gets better with experience. I think

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear David I have problems with analyses that take apart the playing of a person on one occasion. Especially, in the case of a lutist who began playing in a completely different context from ours, I prefer to try to see how his technique may show the way playing has tended to

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Even recordings that are unprocessed are processed (unbeknownst by the original engineer) by goofballs at the pressing plant who don't know how the machines work. This is the big problem... people are used to listen to edited recording and are not aware of this. So when they attend a concert

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Anthony Hind
David Could I also add that I began playing the lute in the mid 70s. At the same time I began reading all the discussions in the Early music magazine, at a moment when basically two groups of lutists could be found discussing their opposing views. The first were in favour of

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, Just a few comments: Anthony Rooley was a great inspiration to me when I went to one of his lecture-recitals in 1973. His enthusiasm was infectious and he was friendly and encouraging. I have seen him only occasionally since, but have always had the same impression. At the Lute

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Andrew Gibbs
I agree - quietness should be thought of as one of the lute's key qualities - not an issue to be overcome - as with another famously quiet instrument, the clavichord... Andrew On 25 Sep 2007, at 10:11, Francesco Tribioli wrote: Even recordings that are unprocessed are processed

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Eric Crouch
My wife and I heard Anthony Rooley give a recital entitled 'Orpheus Stories' at Waterperry House in Oxfordshire, UK on a gloomy wet afternoon in July (so wet, in fact, the organisers provided us with overshoes to wear into the ballroom where the event was taking place). He alternated

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear All, Just a few comments: I think it is probably wrong to assume that Julian Bream or Wanda Landowska were louder than their modern counterparts - in fact it seems to me that with both lutes and harpsichords, as modern makers have got closer to historical models and methods (and

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread gary digman
I agree - quietness should be thought of as one of the lute's key qualities - not an issue to be overcome - as with another famously quiet instrument, the clavichord... Andrew I seem to remember Willy Apel once commenting on hearing a clavichord in concert that at first he could not

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread gary digman
- Original Message - From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:03 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute concert Martin I had never actually heard either Bream or Landowska in concert, but loudness, particularly in the case of

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Edward Martin
Was it Stan Beutens who recorded that piece of PDQ Bach? ed At 03:18 AM 9/25/2007 -0700, gary digman wrote: This discussion also reminds me of Peter Schickele's (sic) performance notes to his Duet for Bagpipe and Lute: When the bagpipe plays, you will not be able to hear the lute, but the lute

[LUTE] Re: [OT] More on PDF's

2007-09-25 Thread Fossum, Arthur
You can use built in features in Acrobat to shrink all the images, I have gotten some good results. I think it is done through save as (don't have it installed on this computer... check the help)=20 -Arthur=20 -Original Message- From: G. Crona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Fletcher
Hi friends, I was fortunate to hear Emma Kirkby and Anthony Rooley at a recital here in Loughborough. (The centre of the universe ;)-. I name Emma first because I suspect that most of the audience had gone to hear her singing. Anthony's lute was there to provide accompaniment to her singing.

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread David Rastall
Dear Anthony, Please don't be put off by my remarks. They're harmless, believe me. Behind the flippant tone really was a serious question and your replies, and those of the others who have commented on the current state of lute playing, have been very enlightening. I came to the lute in

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Daniel Shoskes
When the bagpipe plays, you will not be able to hear the lute, but the lute is pleasant to look at. So, when the bagpipe plays, enjoy the lute. Gary For a lute that is pretty to look at but drowned out, see http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQywhloSBlE To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Stephen Arndt
Daniel, Look at it this way: I didn't hear the lutenist make a single mistake. Stephen - Original Message - From: Daniel Shoskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear David Perhaps, your experience shows that my view has been too strongly coloured by the lutists who have most effected my sensitivity to the lute at key moments. Julian Bream (who first interested me in the lute), then my teacher and Hoppy, who I saw and heard a number of

[LUTE] Re: More microphones

2007-09-25 Thread Tony Chalkley
Dear Craig, If you've looked at/listened to David van Ooijen's exhaustive experiments, I think it comes down to recording the noise in the room - in other words, it's more to do with the end result on the recorder than with the origin of the sound. For live performance, an SM57 will perform

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
Daniel Shoskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: When the bagpipe plays, you will not be able to hear the lute, but the lute is pleasant to look at. So, when the bagpipe plays, enjoy the lute. Gary For a lute that is pretty to look at but drowned out, see

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread LGS-Europe
For a lute that is pretty to look at but drowned out, see http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQywhloSBlE Nice playing. A cembalo player once taught me that a lute helps to make the cembalo sound milder. That's a good way of thinking of the combination. Don't try to be louder by playing sharper, but

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Martin
For more on lutes and bagpipes, see Samuel Pepys' diary for 28 July 1666. But strange to hear my Lord Lauderdale say himself that he had rather hear a cat mew, than the best musique in the world; and the better the musique, the more sicke it makes him; and that of all instruments, he hates the

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread daniel shoskes
I agree, but my new arclute is still sitting in the builder's studio with = a Kingham case on the way. On Tuesday, September 25, 2007, at 04:48PM, Mathias R=F6sel Mathias.Roes= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Shoskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: =20 When the bagpipe plays, you will not be able

[LUTE] Re: More microphones

2007-09-25 Thread Tony Chalkley
Dear David, His precise word was passion - which I took to mean the pains you took and are probably still taking to explore the possibilities available to you. I think he was impressed by the fact that your tipof the iceberg probably goes far beyond what he as a professional does himself

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2007-09-25 Thread Edward Martin
Nigel North recorded a few of the theorbo pieces of John Wilson on his CD, The Rags of Time, with vocalist, Paul Hillier. Harmonia Mundi, HMU 907257. Among those solos are Prelude in a minor, F, and Bb. ed At 05:20 PM 9/25/2007 -0700, Nancy Carlin wrote: I don't think all of those pieces