[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, and will definitely use them on from 6th to 13th courses. Congratulations on creating a very good string. Rob > On 9 Jan 2017, at 07:24, Mimmo Peruffo wrote: > > Well, a sustain of

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Well, a sustain of 20 seconds or so on is very impossible even with modern wound strings, whose density is 5 times plain gut: i remember that the modern wound strings has the best gain over all the bass strings types. Mersenne wrote that he is mentioning the last bass string; i.e. the ticker.

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am > certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next > note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of music. But generally speaking, even if we halve Mersenne's twenty seconds,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > So what are we to make of this? The movement in the last decade has been to > minimise the sustain as long as possible. I'm completely on board with this. > But if we are to take Mersenne at face value, we have

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:29, howard posner wrote: On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop [1] wrote: Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Tor eille durant la sixiesme

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:46, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
So what are we to make of this? The movement in the last decade has been to minimise the sustain as long as possible. I'm completely on board with this. But if we are to take Mersenne at face value, we have been moving in the wrong direction - we should be at least doubling the sustain time.

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 20:58, Christopher Wilke wrote: Thanks! [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 2:33 PM, David Morales [1] wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou vingt fois..." which can be roughly translated by :

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Thanks! [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 2:33 PM, David Morales wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded strings.

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Toreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'vne minutec'est à

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Rob On 8 Jan 2017, at 19:33, David Morales <[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com> wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded strings. Check it out here: [1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/new-loaded-synthetic-bass-strings-by- aquila-corde/ Copied here: -- Let's take a

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
I was being lazy. He doesn't mention seconds, rather heart beats, if I remember correctly. Hopefully someone can supply the original. Rob On 8 Jan 2017, at 18:54, Christopher Wilke <[1]chriswi...@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Rob, What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hi Rob, What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20 second sustain? Although my French is very poor, I've attempted to find it to no avail. Chris [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:

[LUTE] Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Oups, sorry Rob for sending to wrong list AH Very relevant comparison Rob, and I also notice that on my 11C lute, the sustain of the new Aquila basses is almost identical to that of my Venice octaves (which presumably would not be the case with the Savarez. I imagine they

[LUTE] Re: Music and War

2017-01-08 Thread John Mardinly
You might also want to stock up on canned food, strings. water purification equipment and iodine pills to deal with the fallout…. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not

[LUTE] Re: Music and War

2017-01-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
let me put it this way - a lute a day keeps TrumPutin away. Especially if it has a Ukrainian flavor. RT On 1/8/2017 12:52 PM, John Mardinly wrote: Sad, but there is worse. The destruction of the United States by a lunatic will begin on January 20th.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Very relevant comparison Rob, and I also notice that on my 11C lute, the sustain of the new Aquila basses is almost identical to that of my Venice octaves (which presumably would not be the case with the Savarez. I imagine they would drone on longer if not stopped); but again if I

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
The complete opposite for me, John :-) At least we have a choice now. I don't want to spend half my time stopping every bass note from ringing on too long. Rob [1]www.robmackillop.net On 8 Jan 2017, at 17:59, John Mardinly <[2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: No contest-I

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread John Mardinly
No contest-I use and love the Savarez (on my 8-course) not just because of the sustain, but they pick up the vibrations from the treble strings and give an ethereal sound to the instrument. It's like having your own cathedral at home without the expense. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D.,

[LUTE] Re: Music and War

2017-01-08 Thread John Mardinly
Sad, but there is worse. The destruction of the United States by a lunatic will begin on January 20th. [1]http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-editorial-trump-is -a-dangerous-president-a-1120925.html A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
Thanks for sharing Rob, this is really helpful. I have also uploaded a short video yesterday, trying out these new synthetic loaded bass strings on a vihuela. [1]https://youtu.be/g1g7sZiknws By the way, let me share with you that these days we are offering a 20% discount on all

[LUTE] Music and War

2017-01-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
an experiment with cognitive dissonance inherent in our angst-ridden times - [1]https://youtu.be/Bz2IbHPk7ok Cinematography by [2]Володимир Харченко, performed by [3]Stuart Walsh on an original 19th century 7string guitar, music by yours truly, originally for

[LUTE] Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila string is 4 seconds,