[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-10 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
ah! right thanks Jan. see you at Paris in April? Takin beer togheter Mimmo From: [1]jmpoirier2 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:31 AM To: [2]Mimmo Peruffo ; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE : [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Dear Mimmo, No problem at all

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-10 Thread jmpoirier2
: Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> Date : 09/01/2017 6:33 PM (GMT+01:00) À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain maybe it is better to give you guys a few more informations: yes, I am out of stock due to some problems: the fir

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread John Mardinly
From: Matthew Daillie Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrume

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Dan Winheld
"...and my guess is that these strings may last forever.." While no doubt true, and good thing as well, ALL unfingered lute bass strings last virtually forever! My Baroque lute student has had the original (and unspeakably vile) metal overspun strings on his otherwise very fine 13

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
nthony Hind ; [4]Matthew Daillie ; [5]Mimmo Peruffo ; [6]Rob MacKillop ; [7]Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[8][2]dwinh..

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
; [6]Rob MacKillop ; [7]Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[8]dwinh...@lmi.net>: Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread David Morales
Dear all, We have some gauges still on stock, but they are running fast. You can also find everything on our store with 20% discount, so it's really a nice chance to try them. This is the website: [1]www.cuerdaspulsadas.com Mimmo is already part of the lute history, I dont have

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
David Morales' cuerdas Pulsadas in Spain, has them, David Morales who is on this lute list should be able to help you out. Mimmo is out of stock already. Bruno 2017-01-09 12:02 GMT-05:00 Bruno Cognyl-Fournier <[1]fournier...@gmail.com>: and my guess is that these strings

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
and my guess is that these strings may last forever.. Bruno 2017-01-09 11:56 GMT-05:00 Dan Winheld <[1]dwinh...@lmi.net>: Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40 years in the lute "business" (even mostly amateur) that good bass strings may be emerging as an

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Dan Winheld
Fascinating thread! I am delighted that after over 40 years in the lute "business" (even mostly amateur) that good bass strings may be emerging as an obtainable, affordable, predictable, and PRACTICAL reality. Mimmo Peruffo is to be congratulated for all his work over all these years. Now,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Jakob Lindberg's remarks about the wonderful sustain of his old Rauwolf seems to confirm what you say (sustain, complexity and clarity, together according to JL). Mersenne would certainly have heard marvellous old Bologna lutes sought out by French luthenists, no doubt exactly

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
: Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Not sure about that Mimmo... Mersenne is a scientist, therefore a precise observer and his observations are worth considering seriously. When he describes the duration of the sound of the bass stings of a lute, he

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ibration, not the sound. >Mimmo > >-Messaggio originale- >From: Matthew Daillie >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM >To: Mimmo Peruffo >Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List >Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain > >One thing nobody seems to hav

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrument to another. Maybe Mersenne's comments go to show just how good some

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Matthew Daillie
Differences in string length can obviously also account for considerable variations in sustain. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Matthew Daillie
One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrument to another. Maybe Mersenne's comments go to show just how good some lutes were at the time. If one was to rest a lute on the edge of a wooden table as they were wont to do at the time, then maybe

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Sorry to the list it was a private message to Rop, I sent it also to the list for mistake Mimmo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-09 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
-Messaggio originale- From: Rob MacKillop Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:49 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, and will definitely use them on from 6th

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
; behaviour. > Mimmo > > > -Messaggio originale- From: Jean-Marie Poirier > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:46 PM > To: Christopher Wilke ; Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain > > The exact quotation from Mersenne is

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Poirier Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:46 PM To: Christopher Wilke ; Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am > certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next > note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good point, Howard. But still, twenty seconds is a long time. I am certainly only interested in the time before clashing with the next note or notes takes place, and that of course depends on the passage of music. But generally speaking, even if we halve Mersenne's twenty seconds,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > So what are we to make of this? The movement in the last decade has been to > minimise the sustain as long as possible. I'm completely on board with this. > But if we are to take Mersenne at face value, we have

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:29, howard posner wrote: On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop [1] wrote: Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Tor eille durant la sixiesme

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 21:46, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
So what are we to make of this? The movement in the last decade has been to minimise the sustain as long as possible. I'm completely on board with this. But if we are to take Mersenne at face value, we have been moving in the wrong direction - we should be at least doubling the sustain time.

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 08/01/2017 20:58, Christopher Wilke wrote: Thanks! [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 2:33 PM, David Morales [1] wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
The exact quotation from Mersenne is : "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou vingt fois..." which can be roughly translated by :

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Thanks! [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 2:33 PM, David Morales wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded strings.

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Google Translate renders "le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de Toreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'vne minutec'est à

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Excellent. I'd appreciate a good translation of the French... Rob On 8 Jan 2017, at 19:33, David Morales <[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com> wrote: Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
Yes, we have some quotes and images on our blog related to that topic in the interview with M. Peruffo regarding these loaded strings. Check it out here: [1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/new-loaded-synthetic-bass-strings-by- aquila-corde/ Copied here: -- Let's take a

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
I was being lazy. He doesn't mention seconds, rather heart beats, if I remember correctly. Hopefully someone can supply the original. Rob On 8 Jan 2017, at 18:54, Christopher Wilke <[1]chriswi...@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Rob, What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hi Rob, What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20 second sustain? Although my French is very poor, I've attempted to find it to no avail. Chris [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Very relevant comparison Rob, and I also notice that on my 11C lute, the sustain of the new Aquila basses is almost identical to that of my Venice octaves (which presumably would not be the case with the Savarez. I imagine they would drone on longer if not stopped); but again if I

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
The complete opposite for me, John :-) At least we have a choice now. I don't want to spend half my time stopping every bass note from ringing on too long. Rob [1]www.robmackillop.net On 8 Jan 2017, at 17:59, John Mardinly <[2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: No contest-I

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread John Mardinly
No contest-I use and love the Savarez (on my 8-course) not just because of the sustain, but they pick up the vibrations from the treble strings and give an ethereal sound to the instrument. It's like having your own cathedral at home without the expense. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D.,

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain

2017-01-08 Thread David Morales
Thanks for sharing Rob, this is really helpful. I have also uploaded a short video yesterday, trying out these new synthetic loaded bass strings on a vihuela. [1]https://youtu.be/g1g7sZiknws By the way, let me share with you that these days we are offering a 20% discount on all