[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2014-05-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear David, You are probably right - forget the papal rose line. Though perhaps the rose reference is some personal link known to those around G at the time. But perhaps a gilded rose is likely - I'm just cautious about proceeding from speculation to certainty It does

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2014-05-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
:27 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Dear David, You are probably right - forget the papal rose line. Though perhaps the rose reference is some personal link known to those around G at the time. But perhaps a gilded rose is likely - I'm just cautious about proceeding

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2014-05-04 Thread wayne cripps
I got my copy of this message June 22, 2013! Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Date: May 4, 2014 at 8:35:52 AM EDT To: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de, Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Reply

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2014-05-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of wayne cripps Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 5:37 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose I got my copy of this message June 22, 2013! Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Martyn

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-11-01 Thread James Jackson
I know this one is a few months old - but personally I love gold gilded roses. I plan have a gold gilded rose on my current build. I have seen a painting containing a lute with a gold gilded somewhere, I just can't remember where or when. I have also seen a modern maker do it once

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-11-01 Thread William Samson
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[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-23 Thread Anthony Hind
__ From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013, 16:37 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose - Forwarded Message - From: Martyn

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2013-06-23 Thread Bernd Haegemann
__ From: David Van Edwardsda...@vanedwards.co.uk To: Martyn Hodgsonhodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 10:30 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Dear Martyn, Thank you very much for the reference, it would have taken me ages to find starting from

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-23 Thread R. Mattes
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:17:31 +0200, Anthony Hind wrote I suppose, Leonard, if any effect, it would be more like loading, so possibly more damping than brightening. Although, it would probably be too thin to make an audible difference. Just my intuition. Regards Anthony While the mass of the

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2013-06-23 Thread Christopher Wilke
__ From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de To: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com; Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 4:52 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-23 Thread William Samson
r...@mh-freiburg.de; Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com; Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 13:57 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Golden rose is likely a simple metaphor meaning, the lute with the perfect

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2013-06-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose - Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: David Van Edwards [2]da...@vanedwards.co.uk Cc: 'LuteNet list' [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013, 8:16 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
. regards Martyn __ From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013, 16:37 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-22 Thread Dan Winheld
. (Meanwhile, I'll keep an eye out for that lute.) Dan From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 10:30 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Dear Martyn, Thank you very much for the reference, it would have taken me ages

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2013-06-22 Thread Leonard Williams
', as if the thing had been nicked! regards Martyn __ From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 10:30 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose

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2013-06-21 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear David and Martin, thank you! Apparently there's a lot to think about... Two months ago in Venice I had the chance to meet an indorador (gilder) who still works using traditional Venitian techniques: his (small and beautiful) shop belongs to his family since at least three

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk Cc: 'LuteNet list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013, 8:16 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: The golden rose Dear David, I was under the, perhaps

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2013-06-21 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
I guess kitsch was invented earlier than generally thought RT On 6/21/2013 4:02 AM, Luca Manassero wrote: Dear David and Martin, thank you! Apparently there's a lot to think about... Two months ago in Venice I had the chance to meet an indorador (gilder) who still works

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-20 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Luca, Yes there are 8 surviving lutes that I know of with gilded roses. 1. The 16th century lute by Wolfgang Wolf currently in Füssen Museum has a gilded rose. Impossible to say if it is original as it has certainly been roughly gilded since then. 2.Lute by Jakob Langenwalder [Füssen

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Hurttig
Dear Luca and David, I have this tow to add: -Burgholtzer/Erdlinger in KHM Wien -Hans Frei 1597 in Bologna greetings martin Am 20.06.2013 21:13, schrieb David Van Edwards: Dear Luca, Yes there are 8 surviving lutes that I know of with gilded roses. 1. The 16th century lute by Wolfgang