[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Edward C. Yong
Neumann > To: lutelist Net > Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018, 9:08 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: > Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod > Why are the only people discussing do not use any real arguments, > instead those from t

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Antonio Corona
ter in your forthcoming paper. >Martyn Hodgson > ______ > >From: Ido Shdaimah <[1]ishdai...@gmail.com> >To: lutelist Net <[2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018,

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Harmonium lends itself to Ukrainian music amazingly well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtpFZ4LuN4 RT On 8/10/2018 7:41 AM, Ido Shdaimah wrote: Dear Tristan, The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music: In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are set

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
I don't about others, but it seems an awfully vegetarian curry to me. RT On 8/10/2018 10:02 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: So, officially I ask the list: Does anyone of you support anything I say? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ent: Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:46     Subject: [LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re:     Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod   Dear Tristan,   The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music:   In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are se

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Dan Winheld
this particularly relevant matter in your forthcoming paper.     Martyn Hodgson __     From: Ido Shdaimah     To: lutelist Net     Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:46     Subject: [LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re:     Franc

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ah To: lutelist Net Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:46 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod Dear Tristan, The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music: In Indian music, onl

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Hodgson __ From: Ido Shdaimah To: lutelist Net Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:46 Subject: [LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod De

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Ido, I am well aware that the Harmonium is not an Indian instrument. Also You are telling me what I told everyone on the list a while ago. If you criticize my mashups you should at least read what I have written before on that topic. BTW it is not even true that the harmonium is

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Ido Shdaimah
Dear Tristan, The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music: In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are set on exact points. The other Sawaras vary within ranges called Swarakshetras. The maximal and minimal points are called Shrutis, and there are 22 of

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Or this? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/bertali-sonata-in-g-a-8-nicolai-sonata-in-c-a-2-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik Am 10.08.2018 um 04:39 schrieb Tristan von Neumann: Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too?

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-nos-59-63-62-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik How do you explain this? Listen to the *tonal* percussion and where the lute goes into cadence. How do you explain that the harmonium

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jurgen, I am afraid you are ill advised in regards to the history of the discovery and exploration of the Indian subcontinent. Already with the first voyage of Vasco to India, Indians have been brought to Europe to have a look at the Portuguese trading goods, to return to India later and

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Dear Tristan, in all respect I strongly believe you're a victim of the described illusory truth effect. History tells us that the first Europeans to be in direct contact with the Indian subcontinent were the Portuguese starting a trading post in Calcutta in 1505 for spices (clove to start

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jürgen, posting an article about the Illusory Truth Effect does not in anyway touch my findings, as the mere existence of such effect does enable you to apply it to everything you disagree with. If you disagree, you are welcome to discuss the claims on the subject itself, otherwise it is