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z maybe? In my experience that usually does what it sounds to me as
though you want. I don't know about "all contexts", but it works in
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There is some chance you'll see something else. But I am moderately
confident "Athelon" is a typo for "Athlon", indicating x86
architecture, rather than a name for an ARM variant or some such.
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it does should be configurable at least a build time, preferably at
startup time.
> Perhaps everybody else uses rsyslog these days.
Certainly not _quite_ everybody; I, for example, don't, for multiple
reasons not really relevant here.
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Hmm, maybe captive-account uses of lynx should use syslog? Arguably
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You, of course, are welcome to choose otherwise. For your use cases
for the Web, HTTPS may indeed be essential. I'm just pointing out that
it definitely is not so for everyone.
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Thank you. Would that all web admins were that sane.
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duty to be as accessible to everyone as possible.
Perhaps what you outline is most of it, and the others are just
bandwagon-jumpers, or some such.
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That's all very well, and I'm glad it's available. My beef is with
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hat, but
> they *require* it to be used now.
So, TLS 1.3 is not usable for securing anything except the Web? (That
is, if you aren't "visit"ing a "vhost"?)
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tions they might have, but I suspect there is no _technical_
reason you couldn't run a forwarder there on some high port that
forwards on to dreamhost port 22.
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where all the configuration there is is on the command line.
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mentation they are, for various values of $FOO.) I've even run
into one relatively popular program (well, suite of programs) which has
such assumptions (about ssh) wired into string constants in its source
code.
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hat a character
cell doesn't need to be updated because it has a space in it and the
new character is a space, without noticing that they have visibly
different attributes. Unfortunately, if this is what's going on, the
relevant code is probably not in lynx, instead being in the underlyin
alking about on the same Windows machine that has Defender installed?
Then there are _lots_ of other ways it could be recognizing lynx as
lynx. (Even if not, there are probably plenty of various possible
fingerprints, though I'm not competent to do more than speculate on
them.) Not that I th
you have another computer you can ssh
in from or some such.)
Basically, at this point we're still in the information-collection
phase, trying to probe the envelope of the problem to see if we can get
any hints as to where it might be.
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hether it's available anywhere these
days; I can make what I have available if it would help); it includes a
PDF-to-text converter which works well enough to be useful in some
cases for me. There may well be something better knocking around by
now; this is just the one I happen
mpress to be of use, but even if it is, you would
at a minimum have to pick apart the PDF structure enough to extract the
compressed portion. And, of course, FlateDecode is not the only
compression algorithm PDFs can use.
For full details, of course, read the PDF spec.
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to host our
domain's email (not much, but some).
I keep pushing them to switch away from Google, but so far they are
seeing only the immediate monetary costs, which are indeed lower than
those for most alternatives.
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statistically more likely to be malware than a real user. :-(
Obviously, the fix is to get more people using lynx! :-)
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also be at fault - does anyone have any pointers to the RFC(s) I've
missed?
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is supposed to be doing this, but I
> believe it's meant to be understood as 'whenever manipulating URIs'.
Whenever manipulating URIs *within a context that allows relative
references*. That does not apply to the server as far as I can tell.
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elatively recently switched from 32 to
64 bits for time_t and tv_sec on my own systems, and it was, shall we
say, an interesting experience.)
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7;s got its own problems.
But I don't think it's all that reasonable to blithely assume the
replacement you propose "should ... be optimisable", though I do
suspect it is unlikely to be slower than the original on machines where
each produces the right result.
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;t FORTRAN; there is significantly less
room than one might wish for compilers to optimize in C. I'd actually
be surprised, though only a little, to find a C compiler that would
optimize those two assignment statements into a single 16-bit store
even on a big-endian alignment-doesn&#
so that means little.
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If one of them works, great, but don't be too surprised if gmail isn't
interested in talking to clients that old. (If it does work, please
mention it here; I'd like to try again if it appears they've relaxed
the stringency of their stance.)
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something user-specific going on or
Google is lying. (Gee, _there's_ a shocker of an idea.)
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the other is the page after that, the one I do enter the password into.
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that even in that case your having managed to get through to a real
person makes you a net money loser to them.
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HTML5 and the like; I want my agent to do what I want it to, not what
some webpage designer wants it to.
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by changing the user-agent setting, and why/how? I had a quick look at
the overall copyright notices, and found nothing obviously relevant; of
course, I haven't looked at each file's copyright license individually.
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and issues that message upon setting the user-agent to a string that's
not zero-length and contains neither "Lynx" nor "lynx".
> None. That message, if it even exists, is wrong.
If it even exists?
Goodbye.
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> I note that you used `xclip -i` and not `xclip -i -selection clipboard`. By $
It's not restricted to Linux (GNU or not) and BSD; that's true of X in
general. See the ICCCM - PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD are entirely distinct
selections.
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es not even mean it's compatible with other Microsoft
software, and certainly does not mean it's correct.
For example, I've seen mail generated by Microsoft tools with
codepoints in the 128-159 range, obviously intended to be printable
characters, but labeled as being 8859-1.
/~
to be "Unicode codepoint 151" even if the charset=
specifies something very non-Unicode like 8859-14 or KOI-8. If nothing
else, it makes it completely impossible to represent non-single-octet
codepoints when using a character set that is not a subset of Unicode.
But what I believe doesn&#x
fined for something, how much sense does it make to call it an error?
And, of course, it's completely impossible for every browser to produce
the same output, unless "the same" is taken in a ludicrously relaxed
sense.
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quot; case I mentioned above, in which case the
conversion is required to yield a nil pointer (C99 calls this a null
pointer; I don't like that name because of the confusion surrounding
NULL - see http://ftp.rodents-montreal.org/mouse/blah/2009-10-09-1.html
for my thoughts on that). ([#1], [#2],
, I'll be disappointed in them, but that's about where it'll end. If
I get bitten by a resulting portability lose, I'll deal with that when
it happens, like any other portability lose.
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> You know -- i for one do not care about the issue,
Ah. Then, goodbye. If you don't even care about portability issues in
lynx, there I have nothing more of value to contribute to this thread.
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That's a feature, not a bug.
Rant ON.
./configure is a broken paradigm and tests that depend on implicit
function declarations, except to test for implicit function
declarations (and why would anyone do that??), are even more broken.
(And, sudo?? Don't even get me
it can be told to
change its User-Agent string. And, somehow, that aren't capable of
just saving the page source from something like Firefox or Chromium.
Bizarre. I do not understand what passes for thinking behind "most web
sites".
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could be me. Certainly the X I know doesn't keep anything in ~/.cache,
so either this isn't X or it's doing client-side rendering or some such
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t epileptic (well, not
as far as I know, at least). Might you be willing to explain?
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is the scripting. [...]
Ah, so it's not actually JavaScript per se, it's really the
bells-whistles-and-gongs kind of user interface that JavaScript tends
to go along with? That makes a lot more sense to me. Thank you!
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in a website when it fails for lack of JavaScript without any actual
need to. See my blah post of 2009-Nov-28
(http://ftp.rodents-montreal.org/mouse/blah/2009-11-28-1.html) for an
example in a different domain (wanting cookies enab
ou might
want to train yourself to type more, because systems with more but no
less probably outnumber systems with less but no more, or less, because
it does provide significant additional functionality where they differ.
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ther than a fix, but could you maybe create a
script that runs tmux with those arguments (ncluding the
colon-containing one), then have it run that script?
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2021-08-12 13:29:01.54: [RCTkjr.Sghk.Mgl] ident lookup aborted by client input
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;s a personal idiosyncracy. Since
it's not my list, that's not my decision; our listowner can file a
ticket (by whatever means), fix the software, ignore the issue and let
list mail start bouncing, whatever.
Naturally, I'd prefer it get fixed, because I think the world is better
with fewer b
st Know that
they think they've rewritten the standard.
Standards don't work that way.
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whatever you want...as long as owner-$LIST still works.
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Author: Mouse
Date: Tue Mar 20 09:37:26 2018 -0400
Boost redirection count limit to 25.
diff --git a/LYMessages_en.h b/LYMessages_en.h
index b0c7c44..85b490e 100644
--- a/LYMessages_en.h
+++ b/LYMessages_en.h
@@ -631,7 +631,7 @@
#define ERROR_UNCOMPRESSING_TEMP gettext("Er
r may not be in a position to use
your own lynx.cfg.
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unt limit applies even when user interaction
interrupts the flow of redirections; I count only 10 redirections
across the whole session.
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make - and without, of course, any indication what
they consider secure enough, what hoops they would want my client to
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can't see why HTMLGen.c would - I have
trouble calling that anything but a bug in the compiler. (Of course,
lynx may want to try to work around the bug; that's a separate
question.)
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n't give me any address I can send mail to about
any of this, but that's been true for as long as I can recall.
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e that actually concatenates,
preserving the presumably-intended semantics?
Maybe something like (completely untested)
for (i=0,j=strlen(linedata);(linedata[j]=p[i]);i++,j++) ;
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d out, we are not in a
position to do much more than that - but, maybe try stripping off the
file://localhost part?
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n. I had a look at the
settings, but was unable to find a setting to fix it.
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that's actually what's behind it, but it seems
likely to me.
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repo to be authoritative for lynx in any
case; I no longer recall why I used it then.
For the moment, I've just fetched the .tar.bz2. But, my question: does
lynx have any publicly accessible SCM repo?
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d work.)
But lynx is so sane in so many other respects this quite stands out,
leading me to ask what's behind it and why the complaint doesn't
explain either why it's a bad idea to want to specify options on all cc
runs or what the correct way to do so is.
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27;s work atop yours.
I can work with that, now that I know what's what.
Thank you very much - for explaining and, even more, for taking on the
relatively thankless task of maintaining lynx in the first place!
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lynx isn't special in that regard.
Then I guess I just haven't had occasion to build much else you
maintain. :-)
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> Well as a positive feather for Luke's efforts with this [...]
I've been exchanging a few messages offlist with Luke and I too am
quite definitely positively impressed. Luke strikes me as what
provider support should be but far too seldom is.
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>> It would be nice to have a config option to specify mouse left click behavi$
> Single click link following has been the standard for graphical
> browsers since the beginning and was inherited from earlier hypertext
> formats, like PDF.
(a) so here's an opportunity for ly
uitable for my purposes, but I figured I should at least look into
it.)
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idea of an issue. (But I do expect that the
two will line up better in lynx's case.)
The effort involved in a leap forward is rather high, though. I don't
know how soon I'll find the round tuits for it.
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r as
"configure". I quite dislike the ./configure paradigm; my thoughts on
the matter are in my blah post of 2009-11-20, available at
http://ftp.rodents-montreal.org/mouse/blah/2009-11-20-1.html, in case
you're interested in elaboration. (Its use of ./configure is one of
the few thi
e in that regard).
Quoting it with ' ' avoids this.
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an what would more properly be phrased "HTTP or HTTPS", and,
without the cooperation of at least one endpoint, wireshark and its ilk
can't tell you much about HTTPS beyond the sheer volume of data
sent/received.
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, when I hit enter on this link, I get a badly formed address
> error...which I admit is new.
It's been a while, but I do have a fuzzy memory that, years ago, I
found lynx erroring on links that "worked fine everywhere else" but
were not actually well-formed according to the spe
ing is accurate).
As for why someone would want that, well, I can guess, but it would be
nothing but guesses.
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27;s less likely to be a problem in practice, but
there are other cases where it's a bigger issue; for example,
ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-14 are very different.
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enlarge them
significantly. There is also some overhead, delimiting the parts and
declaring their types and encodings and such, but that is small enough
that, unless you have a lot of tiny attachments or the like, you can
usually ignore it.
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ut doesn't.
I'm not sure how I feel about things like, say, "Enable JavaScript to
see comments on this post" when it could be done but, in the opinion of
the page's provider/author, just isn't worth the resource investment.
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I know it.)
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> I stumbled over the above, [...]
IMO this is correct. I would say there could be a place for a flag
that overrides the document's declared charset, but I don't think
"assume" would be a good verb to use. -override-charset maybe?
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