Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 17.11.2015 um 09:27 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Done now. I also added the toggles to Edit>Table. many thanks. regards Uwe

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 17/11/2015 01:21, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 13.11.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Like the patch below? Yes, exactly, thanks. Please put this in. (and also the update of LFUNs.lyx in our doc folder.) Done now. I also added the toggles to Edit>Table. JMarc

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 13.11.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Like the patch below? Yes, exactly, thanks. Please put this in. (and also the update of LFUNs.lyx in our doc folder.) Note that I renamed Dialog Settings to Settings... like everywhere else. OK. > And what should be done with the Edi

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-16 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 um 14:30:05, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller > Am Sonntag 15 November 2015, 14:10:07 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 um 13:36:50, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller > > > > > Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 13:15:05 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > > > What about m

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-15 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag 15 November 2015, 14:10:07 schrieb Kornel Benko: > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 um 13:36:50, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller > > > Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 13:15:05 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > > What about multipage table? > > > > Yes, why not. > > There are 5 strings which would need n

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-15 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 um 13:36:50, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller > Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 13:15:05 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > What about multipage table? > > Yes, why not. There are 5 strings which would need new wordings: 1 "&Use long table" 2 "Horizontal alignment of

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-15 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 13:15:05 schrieb Kornel Benko: > What about multipage table? Yes, why not. Jürgen

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 13/11/2015 14:15, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 13/11/2015 00:36, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : I noticed that we don't have an LFUN to toggle the longtable and the booktabs. I therefore added now 2 entries to return to the default settings, despite I would like to have only 2 entries that toggle t

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 13/11/2015 00:36, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : I noticed that we don't have an LFUN to toggle the longtable and the booktabs. I therefore added now 2 entries to return to the default settings, despite I would like to have only 2 entries that toggle the feature. Like the patch below? Note that I renam

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/11/2015 21:13, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : I think it is a mistake. I do not see why we should use this unenglish term. (I guess that "unenglish" is itself unenglish :) But "un-English" is in the New Oxford Dictionary of English. So that unenglish is un-Oxford. Thanks, I learn a little b

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-13 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag, 13. November 2015 um 09:25:17, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller > Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 00:32:58 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > > I changes it now as suggested by Jürgen and named it breakable table. > > As said, feel free to change this to a better name. > > "Breakable table" sounds odd. >

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag 13 November 2015, 00:32:58 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > I changes it now as suggested by Jürgen and named it breakable table. > As said, feel free to change this to a better name. "Breakable table" sounds odd. I opt for "Allow page breaks" or "Allow page breaks in table" if you need to have t

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 12.11.2015 um 17:14 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Yes, allow page breaks looks nice. But of course this means that our dialog shall be reworked. Do we want to do that for 2.2, or wait until 2.3? I vote for now. It is just a changed string and the translators did not yet start their work.

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 12.11.2015 um 17:12 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Personally, I would prefer something more transparent, such as "Allow page breaks". Nobody without knowledge of the longtable package knows what a "long table" is supposed to be. Good idea! Until we don't have a toggle entry, I named it "break

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 12.11.2015 um 16:14 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: OTOH, now that I actually tried the menu, I would say that it is not clear to know where table stuff starts. Having "Formal Table" would help. Is it better now? I noticed that we don't have an LFUN to toggle the longtable and the booktabs.

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 12.11.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: "Longtable" is used all over theplace in the docs as its own term I would therefore keep it. I think it is a mistake. I do not see why we should use this unenglish term. (I guess that "unenglish" is itself unenglish :) Because non-booktabs

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Richard Heck wrote: > On 11/12/2015 11:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > 2015-11-12 16:14 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > Likewise, > > "Longtable" feels like a German word : > > > I think > it is rather a LaTeXism. It is called "longtable" (not

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 13/11/2015 3:23 a.m., Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 12/11/2015 01:30, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : +Menu "context-tabular" +Item "Formal style|F" "inset-modify tabular set-booktabs" +Item "Longtable|o" "inset-modify tabular set-longtabular" What about "Formal Table" and "Long T

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Richard Heck
On 11/12/2015 11:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > 2015-11-12 16:14 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > Likewise, > "Longtable" feels like a German word : > > > I think it is rather a LaTeXism. It is called "longtable" (not "long table") since package, command and environment names cannot hav

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/11/2015 17:12, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : 2015-11-12 16:14 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Likewise, "Longtable" feels like a German word : I think it is rather a LaTeXism. It is called "longtable" (not "long table") since package, command and environment names cannot have spaces.

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-11-12 16:14 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Likewise, "Longtable" feels like a German word : I think it is rather a LaTeXism. It is called "longtable" (not "long table") since package, command and environment names cannot have spaces. Personally, I would prefer something more transparent

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/11/2015 12:16, Guillaume Munch a écrit : +Menu "context-tabular" +Item "Formal style|F" "inset-modify tabular set-booktabs" +Item "Longtable|o" "inset-modify tabular set-longtabular" What about "Formal Table" and "Long Table"? "Longtable" is used all over theplace in

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/11/2015 01:30, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : +Menu "context-tabular" +Item "Formal style|F" "inset-modify tabular set-booktabs" +Item "Longtable|o" "inset-modify tabular set-longtabular" What about "Formal Table" and "Long Table"? "Longtable" is used all over theplace in the do

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 12/11/2015 00:39, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 11.11.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Guillaume Munch: Yes, I committed now a version which includes your and also JMarc's changes. Thanks again P.S.: it might be good to disable "inset-modify tabular multi(column|row)" when a single cell is selected and

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 12/11/2015 00:34, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 11.11.2015 um 13:57 schrieb Guillaume Munch: Well multirow and multicolumn is about cells, so I moved it with cells. multirow can be for several cells but also for complete rows. Therefore I don't think it is sensible to have a special cell group.

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-12 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 12/11/2015 00:30, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 11.11.2015 um 13:13 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Many Thanks for reviewing. Since the menu name is about lines, should we just have entry Top/Bottom... Done. What about putting multirow with rows and multicolumns with columns? That#s a matter

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.11.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Guillaume Munch: I tried your patch, but it does not apply with "git apply". Did you use "git diff" to produce the diff? Yes, I did use unified diff. git apply works fine here. Then I applied it by hand. I like it but here are some minor comments: * I would or

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.11.2015 um 13:57 schrieb Guillaume Munch: Many thanks for your review. I think that "Border" is clearer than "Line", and ok for just having Top/bottom... Done. Well multirow and multicolumn is about cells, so I moved it with cells. multirow can be for several cells but also for comp

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.11.2015 um 13:13 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Many Thanks for reviewing. Since the menu name is about lines, should we just have entry Top/Bottom... Done. What about putting multirow with rows and multicolumns with columns? That#s a matter of taste. For multirow/column one needs t

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 11/11/2015 12:57, Guillaume Munch a écrit : Le 11/11/2015 12:13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 11/11/2015 01:53, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : I agree that submenus are better than to remove things. Attached is a patch. OK to go in? Thanks, we need something like that. A few comments (...) H

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 11/11/2015 12:13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 11/11/2015 01:53, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : I agree that submenus are better than to remove things. Attached is a patch. OK to go in? Thanks, we need something like that. A few comments: Sorry, our messages crossed each-other. I could not con

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 11/11/2015 00:53, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 04.11.2015 um 10:42 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: This is not how contextual menus are supposed to work IMO. I would propose instead to use submenus and to micmick what libreoffice (for ex.) does. I agree that submenus are better than to remove thin

Re: [patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/11/2015 01:53, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : I agree that submenus are better than to remove things. Attached is a patch. OK to go in? Thanks, we need something like that. A few comments: - Menu "context-tabular" - Item "Multicolumn|u" "inset-modify tabular multicolumn" -

[patch] RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.11.2015 um 10:42 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: This is not how contextual menus are supposed to work IMO. I would propose instead to use submenus and to micmick what libreoffice (for ex.) does. I agree that submenus are better than to remove things. Attached is a patch. OK to go in? ---

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 04/11/2015 17:19, Richard Heck a écrit : - everything is removed for which we also have toolbar button. (If users disabled the automatic show of the table toolbar they apparently don't use tables that much and the table settings dialog is sufficient) This is not how contextual menus are supp

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread Georg Baum
Richard Heck wrote: > On 11/04/2015 04:42 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Le 03/11/2015 01:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : >>> If you open the submenu of tables you see many entries. In my opinion >>> too many, at least too many for laptops with small screens. >>> >>> In general I think it should be le

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2015-11-04, Kornel Benko wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --] > Am Mittwoch, 4. November 2015 um 11:19:21, schrieb Richard Heck > >> On 11/04/2015 04:42 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> > Le 03/11/2015 01:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : >> >> If you open the submenu of tab

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread PhilipPirrip
I agree with you, Uve. I'd rather see a few submenus for setting tables, than this 'More...' that we have now. What do you mean "more" when nothing about setting the table was offered in the first contextual menu. This 'More..." should rather be "Table...". I'd group things that are now in the

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 4. November 2015 um 11:19:21, schrieb Richard Heck > On 11/04/2015 04:42 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Le 03/11/2015 01:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : > >> If you open the submenu of tables you see many entries. In my opinion > >> too many, at least too many for laptops with small scre

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread Richard Heck
On 11/04/2015 04:42 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 03/11/2015 01:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : If you open the submenu of tables you see many entries. In my opinion too many, at least too many for laptops with small screens. In general I think it should be less crowded. Thus a proposal: - everyt

Re: RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/11/2015 01:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : If you open the submenu of tables you see many entries. In my opinion too many, at least too many for laptops with small screens. In general I think it should be less crowded. Thus a proposal: - everything is removed for which we also have toolbar button

RFC: better submenu for tables

2015-11-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
If you open the submenu of tables you see many entries. In my opinion too many, at least too many for laptops with small screens. In general I think it should be less crowded. Thus a proposal: - everything is removed for which we also have toolbar button. (If users disabled the automatic show